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Should man rule over women for women’s own good?

 
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YES... I mean look how women vote.
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In my country women vote for candidates who promise liberal sexual ethic, gay rights, soft criminal politics, more immigration etc.

Men vote for conservative candidates, anti-immigration, tougher punishments, rational public economics spending
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Re: Should man rule over women for women’s own good?
Look where we are. How's the rule of men working so far?
 Quoting: Soup Du Jour 15489286


In my country men rule but those men serve their women voters and not keep men agenda or dare to talk about problems of feminism, even their biological gender is man
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11/23/2012 10:29 AM
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Re: Should man rule over women for women’s own good?
The OP conveniently leaves out the Bible texts which put the previous one in their proper perspective.

The man is not to 'control' his wife for the man and wife are 'one flesh'. He is to be the head of the household, much like the chairman of a board of directors. The chairman does not dictate what the board does and decides, but rather acts as a type of overseer to ensure that the company runs well.
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11/23/2012 10:31 AM
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Re: Should man rule over women for women’s own good?
Check out the men ruling over women in Saudi Arabia. How much good has it done for women?
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Not running around like whores like in the US...step in the right direction?
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this idea is soooo stone age
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11/23/2012 10:32 AM
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why is this even pinned?
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Re: Should man rule over women for women’s own good?
Are you implying that women are too stupid to live on their own? That they need our rule over them?

Within my lifetime, I would like to see a max exodus of the Christians who follow this same line of thought as you and other like believers back to their promised land. You seek to turn America into Iran or Israel.
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Re: Should man rule over women for women’s own good?
Genesis 3:16
Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.

Ephesians 5:22
Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.
23 For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.
24 Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.

Colossians 3:18
Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as it is fit in the Lord.

Corinthians 7:3
Let the husband render unto the wife due benevolence: and likewise also the wife unto the husband. 4 The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power of his own body, but the wife. 5 Defraud ye not one the other,

Corinthians 11:3
But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.

Corinthians 11:9
Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man.

Corinthians 14:35
And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.

Timothy 2:11
Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.
12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve.
14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.
15 Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing,

Peter 3:1
Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands; that, if any obey not the word, they also may without the word be won by the conversation of the wives;
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28321030


Answer: "No". Are you kidding? Men have uncontrollable hormonal urges that cause them to kill, maim, steal, cheat, spread venereal diseases, and generally f up society. It's women who hold the family and society together.
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11/23/2012 10:35 AM
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Women have uncontrollable hormonal urges that cause them to whore around, gossip, steal, cheat, spread venereal diseases, and generally f up society. It's men who hold the family and society together.
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11/23/2012 10:36 AM

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Should smart people rule over stupid people for their own good?

Oh wait...
We were meant to live for so much more, have we lost ourselves?
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11/23/2012 10:40 AM
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Yes, if the husbands are conservative Christ followers, otherwise it's irrelevant because the rest are headed for HELL!!
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Really.....We shall see. lol
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11/23/2012 10:42 AM
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Re: Should man rule over women for women’s own good?
Lmao, quoting the "bible". Cmon OP, wake the fuck up
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11/23/2012 10:48 AM
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Women have uncontrollable hormonal urges that cause them to whore around, gossip, steal, cheat, spread venereal diseases, and generally f up society. It's men who hold the family and society together.
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Sounds like more than one bitter pill has been swallowed here.
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11/23/2012 10:49 AM
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book called "Sex and Culture" by J. D. Unwin analyzes 80 primitive cultures (anthropology) and a number of past empires (history) and finds that, without exception, the level of advancement or decline of all cultures is directly tied to the level of regulation of female sexuality. His historical examples include the Sumerians, Babylonians, Athenians, Romans, Teutons, and Anglo-Saxons (600s - 900s), and English (1500s - 1900s). In every example, these cultures began to rise when women were required to be virgins at marriage and to be monogamous for life. All of these cultures began to decline when women were given rights, were not required to be virgins at marriage, when divorce was common, and marriage was in decline.

... For example, in late Babylonia, they had alimony, child support, no-fault divorce, marital rape laws, and economic equal rights for women. Soon after, this empire, that had lasted hundreds of years, collapsed. All of these successful cultures had begun at the opposite extreme, almost beyond modern imagination, with no rights for women. For example, the punishment for adultery among the early Anglo-Saxons was that adulterous wife was killed and the guilty man had to buy a new wife for the harmed husband. The European middle ages were a result of sexual decadence and the gradual rise of Europe starting in the 1600s was the result of gradually increasing regulation of women, largely caused by Christianity.
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Re: Should man rule over women for women’s own good?
We guys are really too stupid to rule ourselves. We have huge ego issues that lead us into wars, we have too much testosterone which leads us into wars and sexual affairs, our mentality is too much like wolves where we run in limited packs with a common agenda against the other packs which leads to too many wars and we have too many secret agendas to increase our wealth continuously to unlimited levels at the exclusion of all others, causing too many wars. Women are like my mom - fair on all levels.
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I seldom revisit, or double comment on a post, however I am wondering if you perhaps are not fem yourself.

We guys are too stupid? = You are stupid.
huge ego wars = apathy.
testosterone wars promiscuity= apathy, no empathy, no remorse.
run in packs = cowardice.
common agenda = easily controlled.
wealth = easily deceived.
causing wars = capitalism.

women like mom? My mom had none of the above qualities such as empathy, remorse, foresight, or fairness, she like most women are/was easily deceived by a corrupt belief system. I doubt that I have met a "fair" woman in my long life.

As you go about brandishing your book of genocides, remember if you will it was eve who wooed-man from the garden and continues to do so this day, all things are done for the woo-man.

This the males folly, the one thing eve should be given is love. This thing wont be found in some hunk of metal in the driveway, some overpriced abode, some trip to some land of suckers throwing their labor (dollars) down the drain.

No first this fem must find this man to be subservient to, even as she seeks unsure of her own desires, she finds him not, for he cowers, he controls, he manipulates, he bargains his life away, he is no man, he can not love nor even control himself. She is then left with the most obvious resemblance of a man, but more closely resembling a pimp.
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11/23/2012 10:51 AM
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I have one thing to say:

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11/23/2012 10:54 AM
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Re: Should man rule over women for women’s own good?
NO, for the soul has NO SEX and all on earth who have not yet learned it, woman must come to be respected as equals completely. There will be peace/balance on earth until they are. Earth is out of balance, and a major reason is men.
 Quoting: God Loves ALL


And I guess that you western women destroying HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS of men's lives through divorce has nothing to do with why the earth is so unbalanced?

God, you western women are such irresponsible, immature little children. You can NEVER accept responsibility for your own HORRIBLE behavior, and THIS is why you MUST be ruled over and NEVER GIVEN FREEDOM.
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Re: Should man rule over women for women’s own good?
Look where we are. How's the rule of men working so far?
 Quoting: Soup Du Jour 15489286


In my country men rule but those men serve their women voters and not keep men agenda or dare to talk about problems of feminism, even their biological gender is man
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21862376


Look---- Personally,I believe that women can be a lot meaner then men. But there's a lot of dirt bags out there, sporting ties and fancy suits, running things. Things are way out of balance. I just don't think a bunch of out-dated bible verses are the cure.
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Prescription for disaster as most men don't have as much self-control as women.
 Quoting: Bluebird



Corinthians 7:3
Let the husband render unto the wife due benevolence: and likewise also the wife unto the husband. 4 The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power of his own body, but the wife. 5 Defraud ye not one the other,


It says the husband hath not the power of his own body, but the wife. Means the husband cannot resist the wife, and the wife cannot resist the husband, so don 't defraud eachother. I guess seducing your wife or husband into too much sex is fraud.
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Re: Should man rule over women for women’s own good?
Genesis 3:16
Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.

Ephesians 5:22
Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.
23 For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.
24 Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.

Colossians 3:18
Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as it is fit in the Lord.

Corinthians 7:3
Let the husband render unto the wife due benevolence: and likewise also the wife unto the husband. 4 The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power of his own body, but the wife. 5 Defraud ye not one the other,

Corinthians 11:3
But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.

Corinthians 11:9
Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man.

Corinthians 14:35
And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.

Timothy 2:11
Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.
12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve.
14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.
15 Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing,

Peter 3:1
Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands; that, if any obey not the word, they also may without the word be won by the conversation of the wives;
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28321030


Ye should think more intelligently for ye self lest ye want to be without a good wife the rest of thyne life.
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Re: Should man rule over women for women’s own good?
NO, for the soul has NO SEX and all on earth who have not yet learned it, woman must come to be respected as equals completely. There will be peace/balance on earth until they are. Earth is out of balance, and a major reason is men.
 Quoting: God Loves ALL


And I guess that you western women destroying HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS of men's lives through divorce has nothing to do with why the earth is so unbalanced?

God, you western women are such irresponsible, immature little children. You can NEVER accept responsibility for your own HORRIBLE behavior, and THIS is why you MUST be ruled over and NEVER GIVEN FREEDOM.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28337568


LOL yeah I miss it in the old days when a man could just fuck a wench, and impregnate his mistress, then come back home to his wife and punch her in the mouth when she backtalked.

Then later that day we'd go off to war and rape the village women before we killed them and burned their homes, after slaying their men and razing their fields.

JK, suck my dick. I hope you remain a lonely virgin forever.
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if I had four wives I would make them wear matching trash bags and swin caps and goggles
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LOL, pics or it won't happen!
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NO, for the soul has NO SEX and all on earth who have not yet learned it, woman must come to be respected as equals completely. There will be peace/balance on earth until they are. Earth is out of balance, and a major reason is men.
 Quoting: God Loves ALL


And I guess that you western women destroying HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS of men's lives through divorce has nothing to do with why the earth is so unbalanced?

God, you western women are such irresponsible, immature little children. You can NEVER accept responsibility for your own HORRIBLE behavior, and THIS is why you MUST be ruled over and NEVER GIVEN FREEDOM.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28337568


of course, men are perfect and never deserve divorce

fuck me there are some utter scumbag bitter little knuckle draggers in this place


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for the good of all!
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Re: Should man rule over women for women’s own good?
Absolutely! Women are easily persuaded and led by emotions. Unfortunately, too many men have become feminized and act the same too.
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for the good those of us with inferior genetics, with a face that looks like murder, who can't get laid without having the complete control of all women
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Fixed.
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Re: Should man rule over women for women’s own good?
It's not a matter of ruling over women. Men and women were created to be different because God intended them to do different things. Woman was intended to help man. Man was given the leadership role so they would work together instead of against each other.
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Genesis 3:16
Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.

Ephesians 5:22
Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.
23 For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.
24 Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.

Colossians 3:18
Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as it is fit in the Lord.

Corinthians 7:3
Let the husband render unto the wife due benevolence: and likewise also the wife unto the husband. 4 The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power of his own body, but the wife. 5 Defraud ye not one the other,

Corinthians 11:3
But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.

Corinthians 11:9
Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man.

Corinthians 14:35
And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.

Timothy 2:11
Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.
12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve.
14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.
15 Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing,

Peter 3:1
Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands; that, if any obey not the word, they also may without the word be won by the conversation of the wives;
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28321030


hmm.. I would say no.
Don´t get me wrong I do think that there need to be some changes but lording over women isn't one of them. For as long as humans has existed men have been the architects of civilization. We were the ones who died when we hunted, died when being forced into wars, died in coalmines and other horrible places of drudgery. Now thanks to the feminist revolution women see them self ready to shoulder the same burden. I think this is a good thing so the other part om mankind can see what a soul destroying experience these things are. Only with man and women united can we change this world for the better.
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Re: Should man rule over women for women’s own good?
Absolutely! Women are easily persuaded and led by emotions. Unfortunately, too many men have become feminized and act the same too.
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Awake women are no longer easily led by fallen man, and see where their error was made in the first place.
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Re: Should man rule over women for women’s own good?
No. We see what "control" has done in our own governments, and in other governments. We see how slavish devotion to religions is destroying countries. Why does anyone want to follow in the footsteps of tyranny? We have laws now about collecting rainwater, govt wants to confiscate our land and our retirement incomes. And now you want to follow in their footsteps and exert control over half the species. Think about that.

I mean, do you want this written into law? Have a little law book everyone can refer to about what is or is not allowed, set up a special little police force to deal with infractions, new jails for housing of independent thinking women? Cut off their hands or heads if they offend your “honor”?

I see posts here about how women need to be controlled, but I don't see real examples of how the way women act is any better or worse than how men act. How do you really know how most women voted? How do you really know how most men voted? And why on earth are you lumping all women together as if they are robots that all think and act the same? It would appear some men gravitate to only one type of woman, and that is all they know. They assume all women must be like that. I say, look at yourself first, if this is the case. Why are you only able to find women who dissatisfy you?

Are men not just as responsible for restraining themselves before marriage, as women? Why do so many men push and deceive young girls for sex before marriage, saying, if you loved me, you would do this for me?

Many men would feel since they had "society sanctioned" control over women, that would mean they could use the women in any way they wanted, whenever, they wanted. Would that be any better? I don’t think that is what your bible quotes meant.

I am seeing an increased number of men posting misogynistic viewpoints lately, and it seems to be either because some are threatened by women and want to feel in control, some just aren't being satisfied sexually and believe “control” would solve that, and some are really just wanting to spread hate and discontent. This inciting hate, discontent, and inequality is no different from the increased racists posts, the libtard/reptard political bashes, the religious tirades---these posts only serve to divide and separate us. They are more about whining “I want everyone to be like me, to do what I say, because I’m not happy and I want more control!!” than they are about improving anything in our society. Do we not already have enough strife in our society? Why are some trying to incite yet another topic of difference to rile emotions?

And as another poster said, who would be the man? Would a 13-year-old boy have the same "control" as a mature, reasonable, adult male? And who is that mature, reasonable, adult male? And what do you mean by control? Deciding what time they should go to bed, when they should eat, when they can leave the house, who their friends are, when you want sex, what? Does it include physical punishments like in Saudi? Where does it end? Start with women, go on to races, then political parties and mentally ill, I mean why do you think you have the right?

The very word "control" is ominous. It implies one must have power and the other must be powerless.

There is something very wrong with this thinking.

We were put on earth to learn about good and bad, and to find BALANCE. That means accepting differences, and learning to deal with them in positive ways. We each have a feminine and a masculine side. To deny the beauty and freedom of expression of either of them is harming you.

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