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Most who think they believe in jesus do not.

 
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1 Corinthians 15:2 - By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. Otherwise, you have believed in vain.


2 Corinthians 6:1 - As God’s co-workers we urge you not to receive God’s grace in vain.
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when you sit quietly with most christians ,,about 90% actually dont realy believe in chritianity ,they say things like my family do so ,,i do to but only because its a family thing or thats how i was educated,,or i enjoy the christian community.the other 10% are insane
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But you can never go wrong with 1611 KJV, the living, breathing, word of God.
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If jesus is the way, the truth, and the life and you do not believe in the way, the truth, and the life; Do you believe in jesus or a false christ?


How many are lost and do not know the way or think they do and are wrong?


How many do not know the truth but believe in a lie?



How many are not living the life example jesus provided? We are a people, a kingdom. Those in the family are those who are holy or those who make others holy. ALL SINNERS ARE THE CHILDREN OF THE DEVIL FOR HE IS THEIR FATHER. If you do not believe me look it up. Without holiness no will shall see the lord. You must walk in the light as he is in the light. May the lord of the heavens, earth, and sea open your eyes so that they may see and your eyes so that they may hear. Your heart so that it may feel. May thre lord watch over you. God Bless.
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when you sit quietly with most christians ,,about 90% actually dont realy believe in chritianity ,they say things like my family do so ,,i do to but only because its a family thing or thats how i was educated,,or i enjoy the christian community.the other 10% are insane
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Yah most 'christians' are family worshippers, which is both a form of self worship and sex worship. One of the most pernicious heresies is this family worship BS.
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And if go by the scriptures, and Jesus is the word made flesh, and the word is god, then wouldn't that make Jesus God in the flesh?
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Jesus is god but not god. Its like a spirit possessing a lesser form. Jesus died. God is immortal. You can see jesus. God is invisible right? You can see one face but not the other. One is called the son of god. Which cries out abba father. Yet they are one and the same. God is good. Jesus is not. There is no darkness in god yet jesus will return with a legion.
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You can make a case that Jesus was an avatar, a vehicle for God, at the times he said he was God, he likely was, at the times he doubted, he likely was the avatar, the human.
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Been to that website in the past. It is filled with darkness. The type that is among the church pretending to be a part of the church yet they do not believe in the way, the truth, and the life.

" Who, being in very nature [a] God,

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did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage; rather, he made himself nothing

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by taking the very nature of a servant, being made in human likeness."
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Okay well that may or may not be the case.. in either case, comparing the different translations, including the one you just posted, paint quite a different picture than the KJV. The moral of the story, is i wouldn't recommend any translation other than the 1611 KJV, but follow the holy spirit not the word of man. God Bless.
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I bought this 2 weeks ago, very glad I did
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The wrath remains on those who break the new covenant. They are like the man of sin, lawless.
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The man of sin is JESUS!Reread it.Read it in Greek.Stop listening to fools.The Bible is clear.Jesus became SIN!
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The wrath remains on those who break the new covenant. They are like the man of sin, lawless.
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The man of sin is JESUS!Reread it.Read it in Greek.Stop listening to fools.The Bible is clear.Jesus became SIN!
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The sheep listen to the voice of their shepherd. Why should we listen to a spirit that calls others a fool?
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Been to that website in the past. It is filled with darkness. The type that is among the church pretending to be a part of the church yet they do not believe in the way, the truth, and the life.

" Who, being in very nature [a] God,

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did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage; rather, he made himself nothing

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by taking the very nature of a servant, being made in human likeness."
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Okay well that may or may not be the case.. in either case, comparing the different translations, including the one you just posted, paint quite a different picture than the KJV. The moral of the story, is i wouldn't recommend any translation other than the 1611 KJV, but follow the holy spirit not the word of man. God Bless.
 Quoting: DesignLov3


I bought this 2 weeks ago, very glad I did
[link to www.amazon.com]
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Do not worship a bible. I suggest that you compare translations.
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Been to that website in the past. It is filled with darkness. The type that is among the church pretending to be a part of the church yet they do not believe in the way, the truth, and the life.

" Who, being in very nature [a] God,

6

did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage; rather, he made himself nothing

7

by taking the very nature of a servant, being made in human likeness."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26244997


Okay well that may or may not be the case.. in either case, comparing the different translations, including the one you just posted, paint quite a different picture than the KJV. The moral of the story, is i wouldn't recommend any translation other than the 1611 KJV, but follow the holy spirit not the word of man. God Bless.
 Quoting: DesignLov3


I bought this 2 weeks ago, very glad I did
[link to www.amazon.com]
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Do not worship a bible. I suggest that you compare translations.
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I think I'll go with what God has put on my heart over the last few years as apposed to a random internet poster with an unknown agenda
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Okay well that may or may not be the case.. in either case, comparing the different translations, including the one you just posted, paint quite a different picture than the KJV. The moral of the story, is i wouldn't recommend any translation other than the 1611 KJV, but follow the holy spirit not the word of man. God Bless.
 Quoting: DesignLov3


I bought this 2 weeks ago, very glad I did
[link to www.amazon.com]
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Do not worship a bible. I suggest that you compare translations.
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I think I'll go with what God has put on my heart over the last few years as apposed to a random internet poster with an unknown agenda
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It would be wise to seek the full truth. Do not trust your heart for the heart is very wicked. Satan himself can enter your heart. I am not random. Nor is my agenda unknown. Visit the website and you shall know more about me.
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You can't trust your own mind either, trust no-one but God.
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You can't trust your own mind either, trust no-one but God.
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Indeed.
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But you can never go wrong with 1611 KJV, the living, breathing, word of God.
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yikes

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You can never go wrong? Jesus is a rock of offense. A stumbling stone. Many cannot understand the bible due to a cold heart. The tongueof king james will make it difficult for many. Look around you, most who call upon jesus are sons of satan. How many of you have seen jesus? Do you know god? Do not lie.
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2 Corinthians 4:3 - And even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing.

Do you know him? Are you saved? Born again? A child of god? Have you even begun the race?

1 John 4:20 - Whoever claims to love God yet hates a brother or sister is a liar. For whoever does not love their brother and sister, whom they have seen, cannot love God, whom they have not seen.

I always wondered how paul knew that he finished the race. How do you know when god has adopted you? How do you know when you are a son of god sealed with a promise of eternal life? How do you know when you are going to heaven? Many seem to be able to see the starting line. Some get past the path, rock, and thorns. How do you know when you are in good soil?

1 Corinthians 8:3 - But whoever loves God is known by God.

I have seen sons of satan who absolutely believe they are headed for heaven even if they were to die in sin not to sin. Yet the word denies this. They think they are saved, born again, or a child of god. They think they love god. Well this is far from the truth. A sinner is the enemy of god. If you sin against god do you love him?

2 Thessalonians 1:8 - He will punish those who do not know God and do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus.

God told us not to love the world. Well, many christians have a heart of stone which have turned the promises of god into a bribe. They love the creation more than the creator. They seek riches, a kingdom, throne, and other worldly things in heaven. Not knowing that they have caught the bait from the greatest fisher of all who can see their true intentions. The other rewards are cool and everything but there is one promise I am looking forward to see. A promise you don’t really hear about. Where is the finish line?

1 John 4:7-8 - Dear friends, let us love one another, for love comes from God. Everyone who loves has been born of God and knows God. Whoever does not love does not know God, because God is love.

How do I know when I love god? How else would you know god unless you met him? Many claim to know god and they do not. So, how will you know when you know god?

John 14:21-24 - Whoever has my commands and keeps them is the one who loves me. The one who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I too will love them and show myself to them.” Then Judas (not Judas Iscariot) said, “But, Lord, why do you intend to show yourself to us and not to the world?” Jesus replied, “Anyone who loves me will obey my teaching. My Father will love them, and we will come to them and make our home with them. Anyone who does not love me will not obey my teaching. These words you hear are not my own; they belong to the Father who sent me.

Do they teach you this in church? Hopefully now I have given you a goal that you can see instead of running around lost. Shall we begin the race? I am starting to feel a sense of peace. I can finally see the finish line. This is a new truth coming out of my storeroom. Sorry, I am really anxious now. Sometimes new things come out instead of old. I wish I knew god now!

Matthew 5:8 - Blessed are the pure in heart, for they will see God.

So test the spirits. How many of you have seen jesus? How many of you are a wicked false prophet, teacher, brother, or sister? How many of you are a child of wrath? You do know sinners are children of the devil? How many of you are blind?

1 John 3:6-7 - Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him. Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.

Have hope! I know you can do this! I will try to help you more once I believe I am ready. That is, if god permits. I am not really teaching yet. Just here and there I guess. I am unfit to teach you right now. Being called is one thing. Being ignorant is another.

2 Corinthians 10:3-6 - For though we live in the world, we do not wage war as the world does. The weapons we fight with are not the weapons of the world. On the contrary, they have divine power to demolish strongholds. We demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself up against the knowledge of God, and we take captive every thought to make it obedient to Christ. And we will be ready to punish every act of disobedience, once your obedience is complete.

I could be wrong but I believe once you obey the royal laws, you shall see god. For you will be in jesus if you love him. Just remember that a lot of jews in the bible were already obedient. See: 1 Corinthians 15:3-8; Philippians 3:4-9; John 6:46, 14:7-9, 20:29; Acts 10:40-41; 1 corinthians 9:1; 1 john 1:2-3, 3:6.

1 Peter 1:8-9 Though you have not seen him, you love him; and even though you do not see him now, you believe in him and are filled with an inexpressible and glorious joy, for you are receiving the end result of your faith, the salvation of your souls.
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You bring up interesting points. Both are right and both are wrong. Christ was all over the Old Testament, he cared the word of God. God said he would send his son and named all the things people would call him and what would happen to him. It pleased God to do this. One of the thing God said, was that People would call him God on earth.

I find that he could have the word and be the word as what he was, every word was Gods word, Jesus made the word flesh to men. Why would Jesus not have the mind of God? They talked all the time and he did say why call me good only the Father in Heaven is good. He was flesh, he got a new body that doesn't decay. The rest isn't that important, except you have to believe he sent his son into this world to save the world, if you believe you won't be condemned.

There were many time he talked about his Father, he prayed to his Father, so he was both God and man at the same time he was the Christ that was the word, his power was from God.
It left him on the cross so that the word could be fulfilled.
The spot list lamb lead to the slanderer, and innocent man, who died so our sins could be forgiven. There is no greater love than to lay down your life for your fellow man.

The one that Jesus was given, all that believe in him were given back to the Father, We are all brothers and sisters in Christ. God is our Father, we are his children through Jesus Christ our lord and Savior.
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You bring up interesting points. Both are right and both are wrong.
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It makea things easier to prove what you say but I think I may agree. Some things within scripture needs to be manified. If I go to heaven I expect to see jesus. The sheep shall only listen to their masters voice. Dead men don't talk unless their is life in their words and I see life in your words. I am trying not to be vague so all who shall read this may understand. I expect many to read a few things here and there. So I should try to speak as if I am speaking the very words of god. I see you have done so here and there. I shall not deny the father and the son. Jesus is god. God is invisible so he made a image we can see.

Acts 20:28 - Keep watch over yourselves and all the flock of which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers. Be shepherds of the church of God, which he bought with his own blood.

Who is IN christ? Who have gone THROUGH him to the father? Who are born again? Who are saved? Who are sealed with a promise? Who are gods possession.? The holy and righteous saints who have clothed themselves in christ. Not sons of satan. Their father is the devil. All who continue to sin are sons of wrath. Those alive in christ must be dead to sin not dead in sin.

1 John 2:5 But if anyone obeys his word, love for God is truly made complete in them. This is how we know we are in him: 2 Corinthians 1:21-23, 2:14, 5:17; Ephesians 1:3, 2:6-7, 10-13, 3:6; 1 Corinthians 1:30, 2:14, 15:22; Romans 8:1, 12:5; Galatians 2:4, 3:26-28; 1 Timothy 1:14; 2 Timothy 1:8-9, 2:1,10; Philippians 3:13-14; Colossians 1:28; 1 Thessalonians 4:16; 5:16-18; 1 John 2:10,15, 3:9,24, 4:15-16; John 6:56, 17:26; 1 Peter 4:18-19;



Jude 1:19 - These are the people who divide you, who follow mere natural instincts and do not have the Spirit.



Hebrews 2:11 - Both the one who makes people holy and those who are made holy are of the same family. So Jesus is not ashamed to call them brothers and sisters.
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Jesus made the word flesh to men.

The rest isn't that important, except you have to believe he sent his son into this world to save the world, if you believe you won't be condemned.
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What do you mean by that statement? I do know god came into the flesh which created jesus. The word in human form. He who denies the father and the son as one is a anti-christ.




I don't think I agree with that. Everyone must believe in the truth, know the way, and live the life. In the lattter days a delusion will be sent and many will prefer a lie. Do not choose the right or the left. Faith without works is dead. We must obey the royal laws. Stumble in any of it and ye shall be guilty of all of it. Be perfect for he is perfect. We must be transformed into the image of jesus. We must pick up our cross. Tis a very painful process.
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Ephesians 5:1-2 - Follow God’s example, therefore, as dearly loved children and walk in the way of love, just as Christ loved us and gave himself up for us as a fragrant offering and sacrifice to God.

1 Timothy 4:12 - Don’t let anyone look down on you because you are young, but set an example for the believers in speech, in conduct, in love, in faith and in purity.

Acts 26:20 - repent and turn to God and demonstrate .. repentance... by deeds.

Philippians 2:14-15 - Do everything without grumbling or arguing, so that you may become blameless and pure, “children of God without fault in a warped and crooked generation.” Then you will shine among them like stars in the sky.

2 Chronicles 7:14 - if my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and I will forgive their sin and will heal their land.

James 1:22 - Do not merely listen to the word, and so deceive yourselves. Do what it says.

1 Corinthians 9:24 - Do you not know that in a race all the runners run, but only one gets the prize? Run in such a way as to get the prize.
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“Then their eyes were opened and they knew Him; and He vanished from their sight.”

—Luke 24:31 (Nkjv)


Do you know god?
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“Then their eyes were opened and they knew Him; and He vanished from their sight.”

—Luke 24:31 (Nkjv)


Do you know god?
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Yes I do.

And this is what the Master Jesus had to say.

18And a certain ruler asked him, saying, Good Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life? 19And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God. 20Thou knowest the commandments, Do not commit adultery, Do not kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Honour thy father and thy mother. 21And he said, All these have I kept from my youth up. 22Now when Jesus heard these things, he said unto him, Yet lackest thou one thing: sell all that thou hast, and distribute unto the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, follow me. 23And when he heard this, he was very sorrowful: for he was very rich. 24And when Jesus saw that he was very sorrowful, he said, How hardly shall they that have riches enter into the kingdom of God! 25For it is easier for a camel to go through a needle's eye, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God. 26And they that heard it said, Who then can be saved? 27And he said, The things which are impossible with men are possible with God.


Forget Paul, I will listen to what Jesus actually said.
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“Then their eyes were opened and they knew Him; and He vanished from their sight.”

—Luke 24:31 (Nkjv)


Do you know god?
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Yes I do.

And this is what the Master Jesus had to say.

18And a certain ruler asked him, saying, Good Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life? 19And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God. 20Thou knowest the commandments, Do not commit adultery, Do not kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Honour thy father and thy mother. 21And he said, All these have I kept from my youth up. 22Now when Jesus heard these things, he said unto him, Yet lackest thou one thing: sell all that thou hast, and distribute unto the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, follow me. 23And when he heard this, he was very sorrowful: for he was very rich. 24And when Jesus saw that he was very sorrowful, he said, How hardly shall they that have riches enter into the kingdom of God! 25For it is easier for a camel to go through a needle's eye, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God. 26And they that heard it said, Who then can be saved? 27And he said, The things which are impossible with men are possible with God.


Forget Paul, I will listen to what Jesus actually said.
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The wise shall see a lot of what paul said in the way, truth, and life of jesus. Look deep. Paul explained jesus in great detail.
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“Then their eyes were opened and they knew Him; and He vanished from their sight.”

—Luke 24:31 (Nkjv)


Do you know god?
 Quoting: Harbinger Of Truth


Yes I do.

And this is what the Master Jesus had to say.

18And a certain ruler asked him, saying, Good Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life? 19And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God. 20Thou knowest the commandments, Do not commit adultery, Do not kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Honour thy father and thy mother. 21And he said, All these have I kept from my youth up. 22Now when Jesus heard these things, he said unto him, Yet lackest thou one thing: sell all that thou hast, and distribute unto the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, follow me. 23And when he heard this, he was very sorrowful: for he was very rich. 24And when Jesus saw that he was very sorrowful, he said, How hardly shall they that have riches enter into the kingdom of God! 25For it is easier for a camel to go through a needle's eye, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God. 26And they that heard it said, Who then can be saved? 27And he said, The things which are impossible with men are possible with God.


Forget Paul, I will listen to what Jesus actually said.
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The wise shall see a lot of what paul said in the way, truth, and life of jesus. Look deep. Paul explained jesus in great detail.
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But that is not what Jesus said.

Jesus said to be like little children not knowing good and evil.

Go on and be wise.


1At the same time came the disciples unto Jesus, saying, Who is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven? 2And Jesus called a little child unto him, and set him in the midst of them, 3And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven. 4Whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child, the same is greatest in the kingdom of heaven. 5And whoso shall receive one such little child in my name receiveth me. 6But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.

7Woe unto the world because of offences! for it must needs be that offences come; but woe to that man by whom the offence cometh!

8Wherefore if thy hand or thy foot offend thee, cut them off, and cast them from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life halt or maimed, rather than having two hands or two feet to be cast into everlasting fire. 9And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire.


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That thread is corrupted. ALL HAIL THE MOST HIGH GOD!
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02/10/2013 08:45 PM
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OP, if an angel came to you with a book written by Jesus, would you read it?

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