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Why the American Left Won’t Stop Until It Has Ruined Everything

 
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There are two kinds of people in this world. Those WITH souls (Avatar's occupied by eternal entities), and those WITHOUT souls, programs within the Matrix.

Both types are organic, and identical in every way, but the programs are tasked from birth to carry out their programming to take the plot of the game in a specific direction, and no matter what the Avatar's do, they cannot change the programmed direction of the game, but their task within the game is to try...

We are not here to change things, we are here to experience things, we are here to live...
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Watch the Black Friday vids circulating the net and you will understand without having to say a word what is wrong.
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This.

What a nation of fools we've become.
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5* and what an excellent thread, it is just too bad that most of the libtards are so dumbed down they don't get what is happening in this country.

take a look at detroit, chicago, philadephia, etc., bastions of liberal policies and collapsing around the heads of those left to live in third world conditions. whatever leftism touches it destroys.

in the case of the united states leftist in the guise of "caring democrats" are deliberately collapsing our system so the mess that it creates can be re-created in the image of failing leftist systems which are failing everywhere around the world. (look at europe.)

the sense of entitlement is now so strong in this country that those who will mug you and steal from you really believe they are entitled to so. it will get worse as you prepare for what is coming there will always be those who are jealous of what you have earned thanks to the class warfare perpetuated by democrats/leftists it is how they maintain power.

has anyone noticed how often the phrase "old white guy" has creeped into the media narrative? a little too often for my comfort and i doubt that is going to stop with "old" and will eventually be all white guys.
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Really upsets me when I see these people who say voting is useless.

They are the useful idiots!!

Vote and NEVER VOTE FOR AN INCUMBENT!!

That WILL change the system back to where it needs to be.
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It's ok, this is all Bush's fault. < That is getting old, but I still hear it a lot.
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Last Edited by Bluebird on 11/23/2012 10:21 AM
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Really upsets me when I see these people who say voting is useless.

They are the useful idiots!!

Vote and NEVER VOTE FOR AN INCUMBENT!!

That WILL change the system back to where it needs to be.
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this is very good advice. political office was never intended to be a life-long career where a useless enity can vote perks for themselves forever and vote perks and gifts to buy votes forever, but that is what we have now a corrupt ruling class of which neither party is guiltless.
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If we can get all those who don't vote to register and to always vote for any non-incumbant - we would really move this country forward. Sounds like a great movement. Your thoughts?
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There is no left, there is no right. There is only the oligarchy and the serfs. The illusion of left and right merely satisfies the desire of the deluded into thinking that they have made correct choices.
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We need to include some kind of ball and referees so serfs will pay attention...

Also maybe cheerleaders!

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How did the democratic party change so much from Kennedy's time?

Back then it was "ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country" and now it's "my country better give me free shit and lots of it" and then 5 minutes later say "no, that's not enough give me more".

Seriously... what happened?
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:Lean Forward We :
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Thanks for sharing, Dhimmi . ONLY regret is I can't e-mail this to others !

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The right is so fractured by the neo con's that the left is all out winning. The world is morphing into this communistic global love and peace wicked utopia.
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Norway, Denmark, and Sweden do just fine being "LEFT" of America. They are democratic and can adjust things as they need to as they go along. They have better rankings in just about every measure of living standards and quality of life to prove it. Why are Americans denying themselves a better life with conservative BS from the right?
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Yea, I'd like to see what your little bubble will be like if it ever becomes full of Muzzies and other immigrants from the Third World. Or a lot of the types who'd look like Obama's son if he ever had a son.

Champagne socialism is fine as long as everyone in a society truly appreciates brie, pate and champagne.
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Netherlands ....... Don't you have a dike you need to stick your finger in ?

Oh, I forgot ! You have it in your hole, and it 'feels SO GOOD' !
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Norway, Denmark, and Sweden do just fine being "LEFT" of America. They are democratic and can adjust things as they need to as they go along. They have better rankings in just about every measure of living standards and quality of life to prove it. Why are Americans denying themselves a better life with conservative BS from the right?
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Yea, I'd like to see what your little bubble will be like if it ever becomes full of Muzzies and other immigrants from the Third World. Or a lot of the types who'd look like Obama's son if he ever had a son.

Champagne socialism is fine as long as everyone in a society truly appreciates brie, pate and champagne.

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They have lots of immigrants. Guess what? That's how America was made. Over 14% of the population of Sweden is foreign born. Your red lettered grumbling has no foundation other than in racism. The facts are those countries are doing better than America. The truth is in quality of life and living standard rankings. They don't seem to be lacking in freedom or a desire to work either. They do just fine.
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Did you know that the right isn't exactly moderate anymore either?

Oh wait, keep playing the game.
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If we can get all those who don't vote to register and to always vote for any non-incumbant - we would really move this country forward. Sounds like a great movement. Your thoughts?
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something has to be done about the apathy in this country, but first something has to be done about the education. i had a conversation with a recent, newly made citizen. here's waht i was told:

she voted for obama because obama "takes care of people." she voted for obama because she works for the government and "pays taxes" so yes, she is willing to pay more so that more people can be "taken care of." she said she thought it was a disgrace that millionaires and billionaires get to keep so much of what they "make." I said, "you mean 'earn' not make and 'earn' was a complete foreign concept to her.

i asked so what do you produce at your GOVERnMENT job? she said she works for the dmv and 'produces' driver's licenses. she thinks that without her that people would not be able to drive. I asked, "what? would they suddenly lose their ability to drive?"

She could not grasp the concept that her job was there for no onther reason then to take money away from other citizens and plunk it in the hands of government.

she could not grasp the idea that she and her job produces NOTHING, but takes from those who do. she, in her stupidity thought she was an essential asset to this country. this is the kind of thing that we must overcome.
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They have lots of immigrants. Guess what? That's how America was made. Over 14% of the population of Sweden is foreign born. Your red lettered grumbling has no foundation other than in racism. The facts are those countries are doing better than America. The truth is in quality of life and living standard rankings. They don't seem to be lacking in freedom or a desire to work either. They do just fine.
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Their bubble will eventually burst. And when it does, tough titis.

Published: February 26, 2011, nytimes

For a time, Sweden seemed immune to the kind of anti-immigrant sentiment blossoming elsewhere on the European continent. Its generous welfare and asylum policies have allowed hundreds of thousands of refugees to settle here, many in recent years from Muslim countries. Nearly a quarter of Sweden’s population is now foreign born or has a foreign-born parent. But increasingly, Swedes are questioning these policies. Last fall, the far-right party — campaigning largely on an anti-immigration theme — won 6 percent of the vote and, for the first time, enough support to be seated in the Swedish Parliament.

Sweden’s liberal policies have become costly. In the 1950s, ’60s and ’70s, Sweden, which had more manufacturing jobs than citizens to fill them, invited immigrants in. Most came from other European countries. They worked and paid taxes. Those were good years for Malmo, which had shipyards and a textile industry.

When those jobs disappeared, Sweden stopped the flow of immigrant labor, but not the flow of refugees, many of whom clustered in Malmo and other former industrial centers. Jobs were still scarce, but housing was available, apartments built long ago for laborers.

In some of those apartment blocks, the unemployment rate among immigrants stands at 80 percent. Still, their children need schooling, and they have elderly parents who need health care. Some are damaged by the violence they have lived through. They suffer from post-traumatic stress disorder and drug and alcohol addictions.

Prof. Jan Ekberg, an economist at Linnaeus University, questions the policies that allowed so many refugees to settle far from jobs. “They are depending on the public sector now as never before,” he said. “That was a policy mistake.”

Mr. Miri, a rapper who has started a nonprofit agency to encourage multiculturalism, says he loves Sweden and is grateful he was taken in. But, he says, the Swedes have not gone far enough in accepting immigrants. “O.K., they’ve opened up the first door.” he said. “But I want doors four, five and six. I want to be able to become president.”


Malmo’s mayor, Mr. Reepalu, believes jobs and schooling are critical, though he notes with disappointment that as soon as a school has more than about 20 percent immigrants, Swedish parents take their children out.
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Hate to say it but it's to late to fix this mess. It's going down.....
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They have lots of immigrants. Guess what? That's how America was made. Over 14% of the population of Sweden is foreign born. Your red lettered grumbling has no foundation other than in racism. The facts are those countries are doing better than America. The truth is in quality of life and living standard rankings. They don't seem to be lacking in freedom or a desire to work either. They do just fine.
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Their bubble will eventually burst. And when it does, tough titis.

Published: February 26, 2011, nytimes

For a time, Sweden seemed immune to the kind of anti-immigrant sentiment blossoming elsewhere on the European continent. Its generous welfare and asylum policies have allowed hundreds of thousands of refugees to settle here, many in recent years from Muslim countries. Nearly a quarter of Sweden’s population is now foreign born or has a foreign-born parent. But increasingly, Swedes are questioning these policies. Last fall, the far-right party — campaigning largely on an anti-immigration theme — won 6 percent of the vote and, for the first time, enough support to be seated in the Swedish Parliament.

Sweden’s liberal policies have become costly. In the 1950s, ’60s and ’70s, Sweden, which had more manufacturing jobs than citizens to fill them, invited immigrants in. Most came from other European countries. They worked and paid taxes. Those were good years for Malmo, which had shipyards and a textile industry.

When those jobs disappeared, Sweden stopped the flow of immigrant labor, but not the flow of refugees, many of whom clustered in Malmo and other former industrial centers. Jobs were still scarce, but housing was available, apartments built long ago for laborers.

In some of those apartment blocks, the unemployment rate among immigrants stands at 80 percent. Still, their children need schooling, and they have elderly parents who need health care. Some are damaged by the violence they have lived through. They suffer from post-traumatic stress disorder and drug and alcohol addictions.

Prof. Jan Ekberg, an economist at Linnaeus University, questions the policies that allowed so many refugees to settle far from jobs. “They are depending on the public sector now as never before,” he said. “That was a policy mistake.”

Mr. Miri, a rapper who has started a nonprofit agency to encourage multiculturalism, says he loves Sweden and is grateful he was taken in. But, he says, the Swedes have not gone far enough in accepting immigrants. “O.K., they’ve opened up the first door.” he said. “But I want doors four, five and six. I want to be able to become president.”


Malmo’s mayor, Mr. Reepalu, believes jobs and schooling are critical, though he notes with disappointment that as soon as a school has more than about 20 percent immigrants, Swedish parents take their children out.
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What? the bubble will burst like WTSHTF, when the sky falls and when Atlas shrugs? The right has nothing but fear tactics. The facts are unemployment is generally high in every immigrant community, even in America. The bubble has not burst and those nations are still doing better than American at almost every level. If they need to adjust their system left or right a bit over time at any time to accommodate changing conditions they can since that what a democracy is about. Most any so called conservative in Sweden is still left of the America center. Having some folks call for changes in a few quotes does not erase the living standard and quality of life facts for those nations in general.
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Both left and right are flawed in that each contains both truth and falsehood.

But its OK to call out one or the other, as in this thread.

If we are criticizing the left, I would say one of its biggest problems is that it is very judgemental, very finger-wagging, but has no moral core. So where does the judgement come from? Lefties are always screeching about race, gender, etc....but at the same time they believe in subjectivism, that all moral codes are equally OK. This is a contradiction, becuase if you believe in a subjective morality why would you screeeeeech about race, gender, gay-ness, etc. like the most churlish church-lady out there?
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Very interesting read. Sadly it is also likely prophetic.
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Yes, it does.
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Norway, Denmark, and Sweden do just fine being "LEFT" of America. They are democratic and can adjust things as they need to as they go along. They have better rankings in just about every measure of living standards and quality of life to prove it. Why are Americans denying themselves a better life with conservative BS from the right?
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I am an American and have been in Norway for about a month.
I can tell you first hand that their quality of life sucks.
Everything is outrageously expensive and the salaries are not that great. You want to pay $18 for a whopper meal at Burger King? You want to pay $13 a gallon for gas? You want to go to a decent restaurant and pay $35 for a hamburger, fries and a coke? Norway is a beautiful country, but if they did not have massive oil income they would all go back to the old days of living on dried fish. You can take you socialist crap and stick it up your ass.

Also I live in Moldova a former Soviet Republic for a few years and they have soundly rejected the same crap you are promoting. Capitalism is bursting out all over and their quality of life is slowly improving and slowly only because the grizzled old commie bastards are not dying off fast enough.
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Norway, Denmark, and Sweden do just fine being "LEFT" of America. They are democratic and can adjust things as they need to as they go along. They have better rankings in just about every measure of living standards and quality of life to prove it. Why are Americans denying themselves a better life with conservative BS from the right?
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^^^ this ^^^^ is the stupidest post i have ever read. how are conditions in malmo?
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Such as it is that most leftists do not realize that the freedoms they have so vocally and stridently advocated for so long — the social freedom to say and do whatever you want, and the economic freedom to avoid meaningful employment — are about to be obliterated. The useful idiots will be astounded to find themselves in a full-fledged police state and bound in a state of serfdom to the demands of the central government.

“Comply or starve. Submit or face elimination,” will be the government’s refrain. The masochistic, subhuman degenerates will be all too glad to grovel to their Democrat Party masters.

The left’s hunger for a perfect world can never be sated. That is why the shining beacon of liberty that has been the United States is derided as culturally imperialist or hegemonic – because freedom frustrates utopian totalitarians. There always has to be more demands. There’s never enough to quell their envy and dissatisfaction with life.

The signs of collapsing societies throughout history were everywhere for everyone to see. Yet paradoxically, people were always baffled when their misery and destruction came upon them like a thief in the night.

The lazy, the ignorant, and the ideologically corrupt, naively believing empty slogans like “Land, Bread, and Peace,” wake up one day to find themselves deprived of all property, starving, or in a constant state of war — with other nations, against their own government, amongst each other, or even versus nature itself.

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Whats so hard to understand with this, as when that Communist Infiltrator FDR who got elected in 1930's, sold out the farm of the USA, so its not hard to understand with this. That was the day America died, and might possibly go back as far as Woodrow Wilson with the creation with the Scam Ass Federal Reserve (1913). But was not utilized till Great Depression and used from FDR standpoint in 1933.

Amerika is on its deathbed and it goes back from 1930 with FDR.

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The right started the police state and would continue it gladly. The left want free stuff. Both must stop for us to survive.
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The right started the police state and would continue it gladly. The left want free stuff. Both must stop for us to survive.
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Got to do what the 'Marines Expression" is "Kill em all, let G-d sort it out!"


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The basic tenet of Marxism is the destruction of the social order and every tradition, so they can install their utopian dream.

Because evidently their utopia is stupid and never worked, what happens is that they just destroy everything and leaves us with garbage. Human nature is always the same, and people start to take advantage of the socialist system, but now they don;t need to work or be talented, they only need to be friends with the Red party. All motivation to work, all fairness, all development go down the drains.

Just see the story of the son of the Director of the Chinese Communist Party, who crashed his Ferrari while naked with two naked girls. Is that their utopia for mankind ?
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Right wing = Libertarianism, Conservatism and eventually Anarchy.

Left = big government.

Simple as that.

Fascism was founded by former Marxists who felt the Marxist movement was flawed and old.


I call all big government people socialists just for ease. These people protest that they aren't being listened to by the establishment, yet they always call for MORE government. The more you centralize power the less of a voice YOU have, so don't expect to be listened to when there's a huge government controlling everything.

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