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Obama Begins Push for New National Retirement System

 
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Here's the drill folks.. Get all your assets out of paper , buy and hold physical sliver, guns , ammo, food, pay off auto loans etc. at least the Feds will have to actually show up at the door in order to takes these things away. And you know what happens then......
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Really? Millions of Americans (including me) have worked hard for years to put a little something away for when I retire. I don't want my money in Obamas redistibution pocket to give part of it away to some bum who didn't work for it.

Does anyone think that Boehner and the Republican led House will stand up to this crap?

[link to www.theminorityreportblog.com]
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What you're describing is Social Security, and we already have it taking mandatory deductions from our paycheck.
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Here's the drill folks.. Get all your assets out of paper , buy and hold physical sliver, guns , ammo, food, pay off auto loans etc. at least the Feds will have to actually show up at the door in order to takes these things away. And you know what happens then......
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agree.... this must be done
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Really? Millions of Americans (including me) have worked hard for years to put a little something away for when I retire. I don't want my money in Obamas redistibution pocket to give part of it away to some bum who didn't work for it.

Does anyone think that Boehner and the Republican led House will stand up to this crap?

[link to www.theminorityreportblog.com]
 Quoting: Fighting Spartan


Its universal retirement , so no one is left without retirement alike the news stand attendant or the pawn shop
janitor who were on missery wages ...

how you like a retired teacher with a SS check of $120 dollars a month ? wile a boilermaker retires with $80,000 a year ?

Dont measure the value of others peoples contributions on what you did ...

everryone deserves a decent retirement ..

dirty poor or filthy rich ...

(END)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28266567


Please go back to whatever school of education you went to and enroll in Capitalism 101 and a grammar class.
Then come back and try again.
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It's not like Wall Street has a great track record.

How many lost most of their savings in 2008 when The stock
market tanked. 401ks are usually tied to stock mkt.

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 Quoting: Instant Karma
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The "track record" for the federal government is far worse.


Further in Debt by $4 Billion ... a DAY.


If YOU had a Trillion dollars, would YOU "invest" it in
the bloated and inefficient federal government?



You'd be a fool if you did.


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Already stopped payroll retirement deductions. Looking into getting the money out, even if I have to pay penalties and taxes.
Welcome to the new liberal utopia.
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Smart.

I have not used those types of accounts in years either. If it doesn't ching-ching in my hand I don't want it anymore.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23022509


I stopped paying into that myself when it became obvious to me that the looting of the nation wasn't going to stop with the unending banker bail-outs. I saw the writing on the wall and knew that any money, no matter who's money or what money, was a target for looting....I was right....

If you can't get your money out now, you can borrow against it, and take what you can out in dollar notes, invest them into something that will still be worth something in the near future, because the federal reserve notes are rapidly becoming worthless, and will ultimately wind up being abrasive toilet paper.
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You have to pay back loans from your accounts. Not a good plan. Create an emergency crisis an then you can take out the funds without penalty.
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Really? Millions of Americans (including me) have worked hard for years to put a little something away for when I retire. I don't want my money in Obamas redistibution pocket to give part of it away to some bum who didn't work for it.

Does anyone think that Boehner and the Republican led House will stand up to this crap?

[link to www.theminorityreportblog.com]
 Quoting: Fighting Spartan


Its universal retirement , so no one is left without retirement alike the news stand attendant or the pawn shop
janitor who were on missery wages ...

how you like a retired teacher with a SS check of $120 dollars a month ? wile a boilermaker retires with $80,000 a year ?

Dont measure the value of others peoples contributions on what you did ...

everryone deserves a decent retirement ..

dirty poor or filthy rich ...

(END)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28266567


Please go back to whatever school of education you went to and enroll in Capitalism 101 and a grammer class.
Then come back and try again.
 Quoting: Fighting Spartan


LMAO you fucking idiot. Grammar needed indeed.
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Really? Millions of Americans (including me) have worked hard for years to put a little something away for when I retire. I don't want my money in Obamas redistibution pocket to give part of it away to some bum who didn't work for it.

Does anyone think that Boehner and the Republican led House will stand up to this crap?

[link to www.theminorityreportblog.com]
 Quoting: Fighting Spartan


Its universal retirement , so no one is left without retirement alike the news stand attendant or the pawn shop
janitor who were on missery wages ...

how you like a retired teacher with a SS check of $120 dollars a month ? wile a boilermaker retires with $80,000 a year ?

Dont measure the value of others peoples contributions on what you did ...

everryone deserves a decent retirement ..

dirty poor or filthy rich ...

(END)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28266567



Really? And where do you figure in those that made money and spent it like a drunken sailor and those that made money and saved? How do you balance that? How is it fair that I live within my means, have little debt, have saved in a retirement and compare myself to Joe Blow who leaves an extravagant lifestyle, doesn't save?
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'''everyone deserves a decent retirement'''''

dude, this country is collapsing. there will be nothing left.....
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there is nothing left as it is. just keep working so we can collect your money and print some more money to keep the system in place that benefits no one but TPTB. It is all about the $$$$, and with that comes the power control and the ability to brainwash the masses into participating in a rigged game. WAKE UP AMERICA
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Really? Millions of Americans (including me) have worked hard for years to put a little something away for when I retire. I don't want my money in Obamas redistibution pocket to give part of it away to some bum who didn't work for it.

Does anyone think that Boehner and the Republican led House will stand up to this crap?

[link to www.theminorityreportblog.com]
 Quoting: Fighting Spartan


Its universal retirement , so no one is left without retirement alike the news stand attendant or the pawn shop
janitor who were on missery wages ...

how you like a retired teacher with a SS check of $120 dollars a month ? wile a boilermaker retires with $80,000 a year ?

Dont measure the value of others peoples contributions on what you did ...

everryone deserves a decent retirement ..

dirty poor or filthy rich ...

(END)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28266567


Please go back to whatever school of education you went to and enroll in Capitalism 101 and a grammer class.
Then come back and try again.
 Quoting: Fighting Spartan


LMAO you fucking idiot. Grammar needed indeed.
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I stand corrected. banana2
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were you not told to buy paper and silver?

Need I say it again.
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Really? Millions of Americans (including me) have worked hard for years to put a little something away for when I retire. I don't want my money in Obamas redistibution pocket to give part of it away to some bum who didn't work for it.

Does anyone think that Boehner and the Republican led House will stand up to this crap?

[link to www.theminorityreportblog.com]
 Quoting: Fighting Spartan


Its universal retirement , so no one is left without retirement alike the news stand attendant or the pawn shop
janitor who were on missery wages ...

how you like a retired teacher with a SS check of $120 dollars a month ? wile a boilermaker retires with $80,000 a year ?

Dont measure the value of others peoples contributions on what you did ...

everryone deserves a decent retirement ..

dirty poor or filthy rich ...

(END)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28266567


Please go back to whatever school of education you went to and enroll in Capitalism 101 and a grammar class.
Then come back and try again.
 Quoting: Fighting Spartan


LMAO you fucking idiot. Grammar needed indeed.
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Its universal retirement , so no one is left without retirement alike the news stand attendant or the pawn shop
janitor who were on missery wages ...

how you like a retired teacher with a SS check of $120 dollars a month ? wile a boilermaker retires with $80,000 a year ?

Dont measure the value of others peoples contributions on what you did ...

everryone deserves a decent retirement ..

dirty poor or filthy rich ...

(END)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28266567


Please go back to whatever school of education you went to and enroll in Capitalism 101 and a grammar class.
Then come back and try again.
 Quoting: Fighting Spartan


LMAO you fucking idiot. Grammar needed indeed.
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chuckle
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Its universal retirement , so no one is left without retirement alike the news stand attendant or the pawn shop
janitor who were on missery wages ...

how you like a retired teacher with a SS check of $120 dollars a month ? wile a boilermaker retires with $80,000 a year ?

Dont measure the value of others peoples contributions on what you did ...

everryone deserves a decent retirement ..

dirty poor or filthy rich ...

(END)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28266567


Please go back to whatever school of education you went to and enroll in Capitalism 101 and a grammer class.
Then come back and try again.
 Quoting: Fighting Spartan


LMAO you fucking idiot. Grammar needed indeed.
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I stand corrected. banana2
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You stand retarded.
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"the government needs to get involved because 401k plans
and IRAs are unfair to poor people"



What the fuck is this socialist bullshit??!


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In other news, the existence of Mercedes Benz's, Snow blowers, vacuum cleaners and private jet's are unfair to poor people....
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Well, nobody else is going to buy our National Debt pretty soon. Have to force USA Citizens too. Talk about the ultimate double self funded Ponzi Scheme! First you're taxed to pay for carrying deadbeats, then they take anything you have left over and saved by forcing you to buy Treasury Bills via Government Annuities to further fund the Government Giveaway. You KNOW we're about to reach the "END", when the only way the Government can fund itself is by grabbing all money generated within its borders. VERY sad! We are ALL so doomed..... probably sooner than later!!
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Look into your local CAFR publications and find out what really is going on! I did, creative accounting to say the least! If I tried that I would be put in jail!!!

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Lol He is all about redistribution..His father (real) is a commi after all...

Besides why QQ you were not guna get anything from your SS anyway~ They already squandered it all away.
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Who also didn't believe in any private property rights.. of course, doubt he ever owned anything thing in his life except several slave wife's.
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Really? Millions of Americans (including me) have worked hard for years to put a little something away for when I retire. I don't want my money in Obamas redistibution pocket to give part of it away to some bum who didn't work for it.

Does anyone think that Boehner and the Republican led House will stand up to this crap?

[link to www.theminorityreportblog.com]
 Quoting: Fighting Spartan


Its universal retirement , so no one is left without retirement alike the news stand attendant or the pawn shop
janitor who were on missery wages ...

how you like a retired teacher with a SS check of $120 dollars a month ? wile a boilermaker retires with $80,000 a year ?

Dont measure the value of others peoples contributions on what you did ...

everryone deserves a decent retirement ..

dirty poor or filthy rich ...

(END)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28266567


Bullshit33

Retired teachers get pension from private source, not SS. It is based on numbers of years and last 5 years of salary. It's like 80% of final 5 years of salary average. You get higher % the more years you work once you hit retirement mark.
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Only a matter of when.. Everything belongs to the 'state'.
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Sounds like 1960's Soviet Union doesn't it? Just saying.
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Bottom line its Always about the money.. shame most older people don't seem to understand with all this debt the government has create, and looking at the numbers it's just going to be more profitable to kill them off than it is to pay for their health care and retirements..
Oh well you get what you voted for..

Hitler saved and or create all kinds of 'wealth' by doing this shortly after he took over Germany's 'health care' system. Most people don't even know about this happening back then.
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I'd be interested in links about Hitler, I never heard that he did that.

Actually people didn't vote for Obama, the count was fraudulent.
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Lol He is all about redistribution..His father (real) is a commi after all...

Besides why QQ you were not guna get anything from your SS anyway~ They already squandered it all away.
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Who also didn't believe in any private property rights.. of course, doubt he ever owned anything thing in his life except several slave wife's.
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You forgot about the dogs that were kept for special occasions like Thanksgiving and Ramadan.
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Really? Millions of Americans (including me) have worked hard for years to put a little something away for when I retire. I don't want my money in Obamas redistibution pocket to give part of it away to some bum who didn't work for it.

Does anyone think that Boehner and the Republican led House will stand up to this crap?

[link to www.theminorityreportblog.com]
 Quoting: Fighting Spartan


Its universal retirement , so no one is left without retirement alike the news stand attendant or the pawn shop
janitor who were on missery wages ...

how you like a retired teacher with a SS check of $120 dollars a month ? wile a boilermaker retires with $80,000 a year ?

Dont measure the value of others peoples contributions on what you did ...

everryone deserves a decent retirement ..

dirty poor or filthy rich ...

(END)
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:Bullshit33:

Retired teachers get pension from private source, not SS. It is based on numbers of years and last 5 years of salary. It's like 80% of final 5 years of salary average. You get higher % the more years you work once you hit retirement mark.
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Private source??

Then why are our school districts having to pay into retirement funds for unionized public school teachers, and even under court order to top-up those funds because contributions are behind?
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Does anyone think that Boehner and the Republican led House will stand up to this crap?

[link to www.theminorityreportblog.com]
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laugh

You Americans are going to take in the pooper! There will be NO civil war!!!
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Really? Millions of Americans (including me) have worked hard for years to put a little something away for when I retire. I don't want my money in Obamas redistibution pocket to give part of it away to some bum who didn't work for it.

Does anyone think that Boehner and the Republican led House will stand up to this crap?

[link to www.theminorityreportblog.com]
 Quoting: Fighting Spartan


Its universal retirement , so no one is left without retirement alike the news stand attendant or the pawn shop
janitor who were on missery wages ...

how you like a retired teacher with a SS check of $120 dollars a month ? wile a boilermaker retires with $80,000 a year ?

Dont measure the value of others peoples contributions on what you did ...

everryone deserves a decent retirement ..

dirty poor or filthy rich ...

(END)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28266567


Bullshit33

Retired teachers get pension from private source, not SS. It is based on numbers of years and last 5 years of salary. It's like 80% of final 5 years of salary average. You get higher % the more years you work once you hit retirement mark.
 Quoting: AlcoholicRunner


Private source??

Then why are our school districts having to pay into retirement funds for unionized public school teachers, and even under court order to top-up those funds because contributions are behind?
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Depends on how you define private but retired teachers do not get $$$ from SS.

That's in Texas and we do not really have teacher union, at least nothing like Chicago. [link to www.trs.state.tx.us] I suppose it's different in every state.
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Does anyone think that Boehner and the Republican led House will stand up to this crap?

[link to www.theminorityreportblog.com]
 Quoting: Fighting Spartan


NO they are a bunch of pussies
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Yeah, I'm coming to the same conclusion. I just wonder how many threats and bribes the Republicans and Moderates have had to endure since November 6th?
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Does anyone think that Boehner and the Republican led House will stand up to this crap?

[link to www.theminorityreportblog.com]
 Quoting: Fighting Spartan


NO they are a bunch of pussies

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That think of themselves as our overlords.......an armed march on Washington is in the wind.
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Only a matter of when.. Everything belongs to the 'state'.
 Quoting: ceawaves


Sounds like 1960's Soviet Union doesn't it? Just saying.
 Quoting: Fighting Spartan


Bottom line its Always about the money.. shame most older people don't seem to understand with all this debt the government has create, and looking at the numbers it's just going to be more profitable to kill them off than it is to pay for their health care and retirements..
Oh well you get what you voted for..

Hitler saved and or create all kinds of 'wealth' by doing this shortly after he took over Germany's 'health care' system. Most people don't even know about this happening back then.
 Quoting: ceawaves


Actually, it's more like the Soviet Union. This is exactly how the Marxist, Stalin, Lenin's took over there, one freedom at a time. Had to end sometime.

Funny thing is, the stupid people that put 0bama in power will neve blame him, just like people that give themselves over to Satan never blame him either.

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