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Anonymous Coward User ID: 28220063 United Kingdom 11/23/2012 09:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I thought that employers were required to provide healthcare coverage for their full time workers already. And that's why so many were already hiring only part timers - to avoid having to give them benefits. If they're already required to pay for healthcare, why does it matter if it's Obamacare? Or am I missing some loophole they used to have? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 18942840 Canada 11/23/2012 09:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As a University professor myself I take issue with the assumption that all college and university instructors are mindless pawns of the liberal agenda. Most of us are simply interested in our own little corner of our field of expertise, and very rarely get involved in political issues. Yes their are some who abuse their platform, but for the most part, instructors are there because they love their discipline and hope to instill in their students a critical and discerning spirit of inquiry. |
samanthasunflower User ID: 14930415 United States 11/23/2012 09:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm a tiny bit confused. Quoting: The Light Under the Door I thought that employers were required to provide healthcare coverage for their full time workers already. And that's why so many were already hiring only part timers - to avoid having to give them benefits. If they're already required to pay for healthcare, why does it matter if it's Obamacare? Or am I missing some loophole they used to have? The requirement for providing healthcare for FT employees is from Obamacare. But there is no rule about part time employees, so they get nothing. Millions of people will be moved to part time work in the next month. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 27235266 United States 11/23/2012 09:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Funny how ever other industrialized country in the world has universal health care and they all spend about half as much as we do per person, here in the U.S. But no - in this country the most important thing is corporate profits and bringing the most money into the health care system which tens of millions of people can't afford. Imagine that! I guess I am just another dumb libtard for pointing out the truth! |
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samanthasunflower User ID: 14930415 United States 11/23/2012 10:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Funny how ever other industrialized country in the world has universal health care and they all spend about half as much as we do per person, here in the U.S. But no - in this country the most important thing is corporate profits and bringing the most money into the health care system which tens of millions of people can't afford. Imagine that! I guess I am just another dumb libtard for pointing out the truth! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27235266 Funny how it's Liberal colleges that are back stabbing their workers. We also spend more on higher education then any other country. The increase in cost of higher education has gone up faster then the cost of health care. They are swimming in money, but can't buy health insurance for their employees. Shame! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 27954171 United States 11/23/2012 10:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As a University professor myself I take issue with the assumption that all college and university instructors are mindless pawns of the liberal agenda. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18942840 But you have to admit that most of the people in academia consider themselves libs and support the Democrat Party. Only exception might be staffers at some devout religious schools. I bet most of the teachers who are seeing their hours reduced voted for Obama. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 28220063 United Kingdom 11/23/2012 10:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm a tiny bit confused. Quoting: The Light Under the Door I thought that employers were required to provide healthcare coverage for their full time workers already. And that's why so many were already hiring only part timers - to avoid having to give them benefits. If they're already required to pay for healthcare, why does it matter if it's Obamacare? Or am I missing some loophole they used to have? The requirement for providing healthcare for FT employees is from Obamacare. But there is no rule about part time employees, so they get nothing. Millions of people will be moved to part time work in the next month. Ahhh. Thanks :) It was so common to see medical included in full time benefit packages that I thought it was a requirement. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 27874496 United States 11/23/2012 10:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As a University professor myself I take issue with the assumption that all college and university instructors are mindless pawns of the liberal agenda. Most of us are simply interested in our own little corner of our field of expertise, and very rarely get involved in political issues. Yes their are some who abuse their platform, but for the most part, instructors are there because they love their discipline and hope to instill in their students a critical and discerning spirit of inquiry. Then there's the assumption that all professors are liberals. Certain departments are overwhelmingly liberal (sociology, psychology, arts, music, etc). Other departments (at least in my university) are more conservative: History, geography, business, etc. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1447583 United States 11/23/2012 10:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Funny how ever other industrialized country in the world has universal health care and they all spend about half as much as we do per person, here in the U.S. But no - in this country the most important thing is corporate profits and bringing the most money into the health care system which tens of millions of people can't afford. Imagine that! I guess I am just another dumb libtard for pointing out the truth! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27235266 Other countries also don't allow for frivolous lawsuits like America does. In other countries, if you try to sue the doctor that operated on you for negligence, and you lose, you must pay for the legal fees of the doctor you are accusing of negligence. In America, the patient that brought about the charges does not have to cover the legal fees for the doctor which he accused of being negligent. Of course, that's only one of many reasons why healthcare is so expensive in America. Other countries also don't poison their population with GMO crops, food additives and fluoride. Most of the treatment required by Americans is for things that were all easily preventable. A lot less medical service would be needed if most Americans didn't insist on eating garbage, getting fat and having an annual heart attack. Back on topic, I noticed that many job listings as of late are all for 28 hour work weeks. Nothing like a 30% pay cut to pay for that "free" Obamacare. Not that people couldn't take a second part time job to compensate for those 12+ work hours lost. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 23011194 United States 11/23/2012 10:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | wahts the problem, we'll all work 30 hours a wekk Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22327067 sounds great to me more jobs , if employers hire for a 30 hour week they have to hire more people can u make a house and car payment on 30 hours a week and still buy food and insurance? It's all collapsing, dude. We're in the biggest debt bubble the world has ever seen. And like all bubbles it will burst. It won't be long till the rest of the world starts dumping dollars..... |
Lady Jane Smith Forum Administrator User ID: 17369069 Sweden 11/23/2012 10:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | wahts the problem, we'll all work 30 hours a wekk Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22327067 sounds great to me more jobs , if employers hire for a 30 hour week they have to hire more people can u make a house and car payment on 30 hours a week and still buy food and insurance? It's all collapsing, dude. We're in the biggest debt bubble the world has ever seen. And like all bubbles it will burst. It won't be long till the rest of the world starts dumping dollars..... He still lives with mommy & daddy. Fate whispers to the warrior "You cannot withstand the storm" the warrior whispers back "I am the storm" INTJ-A |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 15794832 United States 11/23/2012 10:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As a University professor myself I take issue with the assumption that all college and university instructors are mindless pawns of the liberal agenda. Most of us are simply interested in our own little corner of our field of expertise, and very rarely get involved in political issues. Yes their are some who abuse their platform, but for the most part, instructors are there because they love their discipline and hope to instill in their students a critical and discerning spirit of inquiry. You just proved the point you're arguing against. And you're a university professor? That explains everything. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 28275653 United States 11/23/2012 10:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As a University professor myself I take issue with the assumption that all college and university instructors are mindless pawns of the liberal agenda. Most of us are simply interested in our own little corner of our field of expertise, and very rarely get involved in political issues. Yes their are some who abuse their platform, but for the most part, instructors are there because they love their discipline and hope to instill in their students a critical and discerning spirit of inquiry. Understandable, but I suppose that most people consider colleges a rich libtard environment. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 28008747 United States 11/23/2012 10:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | " ... The solution, says United Steelworkers representative Jeff Cech, is that adjunct professors should unionize in an attempt to thwart schools seeking similar cost-savings efforts from avoiding Obamacare. "They may be complying with the letter of the law, but the letter of law and the spirit of the law are two different things," said Mr. Cech. "If they are doing it at CCAC, it can't be long before they do it other places." ..." Wonder if we'll see a wave of unionization at colleges now. Adjunts are the sort of people who are too stupid to know what's good for them, so they probably won't join. Engineers are stupid in the same way, and see now a lot of engineers are replaced by H1B's. Disclaimer: I am an engineer, so I'm entitled to say this. I am fairly supportive of unions, just not PUBLIC EMPLOYEE unions. CCAC is a private employer. I bet their janitorial staff and food workers are unionized. Obamacare protects unions. So ... unionize. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 28337082 Morocco 11/23/2012 10:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | wahts the problem, we'll all work 30 hours a wekk Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22327067 sounds great to me more jobs , if employers hire for a 30 hour week they have to hire more people can u make a house and car payment on 30 hours a week and still buy food and insurance? It's all collapsing, dude. We're in the biggest debt bubble the world has ever seen. And like all bubbles it will burst. It won't be long till the rest of the world starts dumping dollars..... Hell im working 60 hours a week and still living pay check to pay check. |
IRQ_1 User ID: 24600584 United States 11/23/2012 10:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As a University professor myself I take issue with the assumption that all college and university instructors are mindless pawns of the liberal agenda. Most of us are simply interested in our own little corner of our field of expertise, and very rarely get involved in political issues. Yes their are some who abuse their platform, but for the most part, instructors are there because they love their discipline and hope to instill in their students a critical and discerning spirit of inquiry. "Spirit of inquiry" Jack of all trades master of none "shall not be infringed." BLUE RIBBON AWARNESS FOR MENS' HEALTH Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent. --ISAAC ASIMOV I never 'Ad hominem' I don't need to. The Constitution means everything or nothing. You can't have both. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 28008747 United States 11/23/2012 10:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm a tiny bit confused. Quoting: The Light Under the Door I thought that employers were required to provide healthcare coverage for their full time workers already. And that's why so many were already hiring only part timers - to avoid having to give them benefits. If they're already required to pay for healthcare, why does it matter if it's Obamacare? Or am I missing some loophole they used to have? The requirement for providing healthcare for FT employees is from Obamacare. But there is no rule about part time employees, so they get nothing. Millions of people will be moved to part time work in the next month. Ahhh. Thanks :) It was so common to see medical included in full time benefit packages that I thought it was a requirement. I thought it was a requirement in some sense, but not as strongly as now under Obamacare. And "full-time" has been changed from 40 to 30 hours / week. Barack wants us all to have more time with our families! Or have 2 almost-full-time jobs. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 28008747 United States 11/23/2012 11:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As a University professor myself I take issue with the assumption that all college and university instructors are mindless pawns of the liberal agenda. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18942840 But you have to admit that most of the people in academia consider themselves libs and support the Democrat Party. Only exception might be staffers at some devout religious schools. I bet most of the teachers who are seeing their hours reduced voted for Obama. Maybe not ... because not that many people actually voted for Obama. The count was totally fraudulent. Sorry for OT but just needed to keep us remembering what actually happened on Nov. 6. Don't get confused. |