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Western countries began to decline when women were given freedoms

 
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Western countries began to decline when women were given freedoms
I just read an incredible book called "Sex and Culture" by J. D. Unwin published in 1934. The book analyzes 80 primitive cultures (anthropology) and a number of past empires (history) and finds that, without exception, the level of advancement or decline of all cultures is directly tied to the level of regulation of female sexuality. His historical examples include the Sumerians, Babylonians, Athenians, Romans, Teutons, and Anglo-Saxons (600s - 900s), and English (1500s - 1900s). In every example, these cultures began to rise when women were required to be virgins at marriage and to be monogamous for life. All of these cultures began to decline when women were given rights, were not required to be virgins at marriage, when divorce was common, and marriage was in decline.

This book makes me feel ridiculous for thinking that we are facing some new problem with feminism. We are just repeating history, that has been repeated over and over again. I knew that late Rome had some of these issues, but I didn't know how universal it was. For example, in late Babylonia, they had alimony, child support, no-fault divorce, marital rape laws, and economic equal rights for women. Soon after, this empire, that had lasted hundreds of years, collapsed. All of these successful cultures had begun at the opposite extreme, almost beyond modern imagination, with no rights for women. For example, the punishment for adultery among the early Anglo-Saxons was that adulterous wife was killed and the guilty man had to buy a new wife for the harmed husband. The European middle ages were a result of sexual decadence and the gradual rise of Europe starting in the 1600s was the result of gradually increasing regulation of women, largely caused by Christianity.

Since this book was published in England in 1934, Unwin describes the degree of sexual decay in his time as being substantially less advanced than it was by the end of other empires. Of course, what we see today in 2008 is quite different from 1934, and exactly matches the behavior of all empires just before their collapse.

The great strength of this book is in its method, to rationally analyze all anthropological and historical data to look for the relationship between sex and culture. The weakness of this book is when he tries to analyze and explain this relationship. Unwin is actually an academic liberal thinker, and largely a Freudian, which was common at this time. His explanation is that restricting female sexuality also restricts male sexuality, and that repressed sexuality expresses itself in other ways such as cultural advancement. All of us realize that this is nonsense. We realize this because we live in a culture that is fully decayed, and we know that restricting female sexuality actually benefits male sexuality by distributing women more equitably. So I cannot really hold Unwin's mistaken conclusion against him since he did not have enough understanding to realize the cause of the relationship between sex and culture that he found.

I don't think anyone interested in men's rights could not be profoundly influenced by reading this book. It is extremely hard to find. I got it through inter-library loan. This week, I will try to contact the publisher to see if anything can be done to make this book more widely available.
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Re: Western countries began to decline when women were given freedoms
Not to be sexist, but I sort of agree. Women hold too many card right now and must be limited to what they can do. I still respect them as human beings but women think with their heart too much when they should be using their brains.
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Re: Western countries began to decline when women were given freedoms
Wrong

Western countries began to decline with the advent of Film, Radio, Television and Magazines all controlled by one particular special interest group hell-bent on demoralizing America and undermining Christianity.

Do you think that letting women vote and work really changes things that much?

No, it's movies and books that promote promiscuity, homosexuality, and other godlessness that tells you what to do with that freedom that destroys society.
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Re: Western countries began to decline when women were given freedoms
Wrong

Western countries began to decline with the advent of Film, Radio, Television and Magazines all controlled by one particular special interest group hell-bent on demoralizing America and undermining Christianity.

Do you think that letting women vote and work really changes things that much?

No, it's movies and books that promote promiscuity, homosexuality, and other godlessness that tells you what to do with that freedom that destroys society.
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If people had followed Bible, they would have not swallowed the pill which they were offered
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Re: Western countries began to decline when women were given freedoms
Not to be sexist, but I sort of agree. Women hold too many card right now and must be limited to what they can do. I still respect them as human beings but women think with their heart too much when they should be using their brains.
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Same is true for Black, Middle-Eastern & Latino Men, they think with their heart and not be able to logical thinking
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Re: Western countries began to decline when women were given freedoms
Wrong

Western countries began to decline with the advent of Film, Radio, Television and Magazines all controlled by one particular special interest group hell-bent on demoralizing America and undermining Christianity.

Do you think that letting women vote and work really changes things that much?

No, it's movies and books that promote promiscuity, homosexuality, and other godlessness that tells you what to do with that freedom that destroys society.
 Quoting: Lada D


If people had followed Bible, they would have not swallowed the pill which they were offered
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ohyeah
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If people had followed Bible, they would have not swallowed the pill which they were offered
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I don't think you really understand how subtle and gradual the poisoning was.
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11/23/2012 11:09 AM
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Re: Western countries began to decline when women were given freedoms
Wrong

Western countries began to decline with the advent of Film, Radio, Television and Magazines all controlled by one particular special interest group hell-bent on demoralizing America and undermining Christianity.

Do you think that letting women vote and work really changes things that much?

No, it's movies and books that promote promiscuity, homosexuality, and other godlessness that tells you what to do with that freedom that destroys society.
 Quoting: Lada D


Yes and the Movies and Books and Music and Media, are ALL programming just ONE fucking demograph.....WOMEN

You fucking MORON

Sex in the City
Ally Macbeal
Pretty Woman
Rihanna (filthy whore making more filthy whores)
Madonna


It's NOT MEN that are being duped and programmed, mens programme is simple and unbreakable, follow ya dick, the trick is in BRAIN WASHING females, as in turn they set the rules for male behaviour.....lead the women into the trap and they act as bait for the men (simple folk who follow their dicks)
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Re: Western countries began to decline when women were given freedoms
Not to be sexist, but I sort of agree. Women hold too many card right now and must be limited to what they can do. I still respect them as human beings but women think with their heart too much when they should be using their brains.
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OH and where have men's brains led us today? To the very cusp of destruction! It's not women that control the military complex or the government or the Federal Reserve or major banks. Excess and greed!
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Why am I a moron when you just agreed with me?

You just reinforced everything I said.

Wanker.

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If people had followed Bible, they would have not swallowed the pill which they were offered
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I don't think you really understand how subtle and gradual the poisoning was.
 Quoting: Lada D


We can restore the situation by following the Bible. And we could parent a new generation of traditional children, in countryside without them getting poisoned by mass media. Like Amish do already.
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Re: Western countries began to decline when women were given freedoms
Wrong

Western countries began to decline with the advent of Film, Radio, Television and Magazines all controlled by one particular special interest group hell-bent on demoralizing America and undermining Christianity.

Do you think that letting women vote and work really changes things that much?

No, it's movies and books that promote promiscuity, homosexuality, and other godlessness that tells you what to do with that freedom that destroys society.
 Quoting: Lada D


Promiscuity has existed, since the beginning of time.
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11/23/2012 11:26 AM
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Re: Western countries began to decline when women were given freedoms
Wrong

Western countries began to decline with the advent of Film, Radio, Television and Magazines all controlled by one particular special interest group hell-bent on demoralizing America and undermining Christianity.

Do you think that letting women vote and work really changes things that much?

No, it's movies and books that promote promiscuity, homosexuality, and other godlessness that tells you what to do with that freedom that destroys society.
 Quoting: Lada D


Promiscuity has existed, since the beginning of time.
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Yes, but the more it is promoted and accepted, we lose the concept of communal shame.

It is the system of shaming that keeps people in line.

The media tells us "There's nothing to be ashamed of" one little step at a time.

If they keep going, formerly white Christian Americans will be unidentifiable, Satnist Globalists who make our children mate with multiple animals and corpses without the benefit of marriage while we're being raped by our grandparents and pretending it's normal and we like it.
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Re: Western countries began to decline when women were given freedoms
If you would instead put a ring around penises that discourages hard ons you would reduce sexual indiscretion immediately rather than try to put iron maidens on women again.

Problem solved.
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Re: Western countries began to decline when women were given freedoms
Why am I a moron when you just agreed with me?

You just reinforced everything I said.

Wanker.

:summerseve:
 Quoting: Lada D


You just proved my point you're a moron, because the fulcrum is still women, women are far more powerful than they realise (as a collective) it IS a battle for womans mind.

In effect it is true to say "the downfall of man is woman"

Granted there are nefarious power hungry agendas at play, but the crux of the issue remains the same, clean good living woman with morales goes on to make good men, and good kids, cos the bad men wont get near a good woman, so they would have to change in order to procreate, so mens morals are closely connected to and are mainly an effect of womens morals.

Good woman make good man make good kids make good family make good community make good society.....fucking simple

Corrupt selfish disloyal woman encourages bad men to be badder, male children raise themselves and hate their mother cos she was a slag who was never there for them, she cared for her needs before that of her children....female children grow up to be like mummy only more so...more selfish with a negative contemptuous view of men, which leads to men hating women but still filled with a need to procreate, so a man who's fucking a woman he hates is rape, but because thew woman consents to it it isn't rape.

I am sick to death of finding woman after woman who likes being choked with dick, who likes rape, who likes being strangled and hurt during sex..... programmed by women in the media who in turn are programmed by the porn world, which is governed by the rich, and YES a rich man who is fucking the human race over.....but it is still up to women to douse the fire as they are the ones being programmed and need to wake up and save us all.

Save yourself and you will save us all, just like water douses fire, and fire boils water, if a man is in control and gaining more control by the day it's because women are letting it happen, they are being used to control the flock.


Bean flicker.
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Yes, but the more it is promoted and accepted, we lose the concept of communal shame.

It is the system of shaming that keeps people in line.

The media tells us "There's nothing to be ashamed of" one little step at a time.

If they keep going, formerly white Christian Americans will be unidentifiable, Satnist Globalists who make our children mate with multiple animals and corpses without the benefit of marriage while we're being raped by our grandparents and pretending it's normal and we like it.
 Quoting: Lada D


True what you say

Even it makes the Cultural Marxists angry

Same happening also in Western Europe and Northern Europe, we are actually progressed further in decay than you my American brothers and sisters
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Re: Western countries began to decline when women were given freedoms
No, civilizations never thrive until all have equal rights and freedom is manifest for all. You and somebody else is seeding this BS on glp today. Grow the fuck up and stop with it.
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"MY SPIRIT, YOU ARE OMNIPOTENT. YOUR NAME IS HOLY. MAY YOUR REALM BE INCARNATE IN ME. MAY YOUR POWER REVEAL ITSELF WITHIN ME, ON EARTH AND IN THE HEAVEN. GIVE ME TODAY MY DAILY BREAD, AND THUS, LET ME RECOGNIZE MY TRANSGRESSIONS AND ERRORS, AND I SHALL RECOGNIZE THE TRUTH. AND DO NOT LEAD ME INTO TEMPTATION AND CONFUSION, BUT DELIVER ME FROM ERROR. FOR YOURS IS THE REALM WITHIN ME AND THE POWER AND THE KNOWLEDGE FOREVER,
AMEN.

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