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The eight-day Gaza offensive was a practice run for any future armed confrontation with Iran, U.S. and Israeli officials told The New York Times.
“In Operation Pillar of Defense, Israel was not confronting Gaza, but Iran,” Michael B. Oren, the Israeli ambassador to the United States and a military historian, told the Times.


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The eight-day Gaza offensive was a practice run for any future armed confrontation with Iran, U.S. and Israeli officials told The New York Times.
“In Operation Pillar of Defense, Israel was not confronting Gaza, but Iran,” Michael B. Oren, the Israeli ambassador to the United States and a military historian, told the Times.


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Gee!, if it was a "Asso"CIA"ted News Story, I would say its all bogus and lies, but I think I'm going to have to step up my large group of Media corporations, that B.S. too, like "Reuters" and Probably NY Times and probably about another 2 dozen more..

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Nice, and the children are just collateral damage for their brain damaged 'training'

What a pathetic shithole nation, just as bad as the US and Canada
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yes, shahab missles are more or less like fajr.....are they retarded?
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Nice, and the children are just collateral damage for their brain damaged 'training'

What a pathetic shithole nation, just as bad as the US and Canada
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hahaha sounds like someone is mad. Are you mad, bro?
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Maybe they wanted to provoke Hamas into sending most advanced missiles or rockets to test out their Dome defense system...
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thanks for pin.
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Nice, and the children are just collateral damage for their brain damaged 'training'

What a pathetic shithole nation, just as bad as the US and Canada
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hahaha sounds like someone is mad. Are you mad, bro?
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yes, shahab missles are more or less like fajr.....are they retarded?
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Short answer to keep it simple: Yes.
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History lesson.

The great country of Iran fought the much smaller country of Iraq to a complete standstill.

Neither side could do anything.

Mass idiots against mass idiots.

Let's see.

The Iraqi military fought Iran to a complete standstill.

Britain and the US with smaller numbers went through those same Iraqi forces, like crap through a goose.

And somehow, Israel is to fear these guys?

No one questions Iranian courage. They lined up and got slaughtered like the idiots they were. That takes courage.

Maximum stupidity, but courage.

Not exactly the type of folks who do well against Israel.

The Israeli kill ratio is unbelievable.

So the more numerous Iranians mean nothing.

Just more for the slaughter. If Iran can even pull it off, which I doubt.

Israel may destroy their nuclear facilities, but that's about all that will happen.

Darius I, determined to make the piddly Western nation of Greece a part of the vast Persian Empire. He lost 300 ships and 20,000 men at Capt Athos his first time out.

At Marathon, the mighty Persians arrayed 44,000 to 60,000 soldiers and cavalry against 16,000 Greeks on the Plain of Marathon. The Persians lost 6,400 men to 192 Greeks. To celebrate, the Greeks built the Parthenon, and engraved the names of the 192 inside.

Previously, Persian successes were against other Easterners. Not Westerners. Darius was killed putting down rebellions that started because the great Persian army was defeated by the piddly Greeks, which caused others to think they could do no worse.

Xerxes, decided to do what his father couldn't, and invade and conquer this dirt-poor, small group of Western Greeks.

He gathered an estimated 250,000+ of the cream of the cream of the Persian Empire, and was surprised to see 7,000 Greeks at the Hot Gates, led by Spartan King Leonidas, who had brought 300 Spartan Peers.

After giving them a few days to evaporate, Xerxes sent his elite Medes to bring them to him. Didn't work out. For two days, these 7,000 held the 250,000, before all but 700 Thespians and 300 Spartans were left.

They were killed, 1,000 Greeks, but over 25,000 Persians were killed. That's a 25:1 kill ratio.

In offshore naval action at Artesium, and due to storms, the Persians also lost 200 ships and another 40,000 men.

At Salamis, Xerxes saw a small fleet of Greek volunteer free men sink 200 Persian ships and 40,000 of his sailors drown. Scholars agree that this was a slaughter, say, a 40:1 kill ratio.

The following Spring, Mardonius led 300,000 Persians against 60,000 Greeks at Plataea, where they killed all but 43,000 Persians with 1,360 Greek losses. The surviving 43,000 Persians were killed at the Strymon river estuary by Alexander. That's a 220:1 kill ratio of Persians killed to Greeks killed.

Next action was Granicus. The Greeks enjoyed a 26:1 kill ratio.

Issus. 4:1 kill ratio, but since the battle took place near sunset, the Persians ran in the dark faster than the Greeks could pursue.

Guagemela. Outnumbered 250,000 to 47,000, the Macedonians, outnumbered five to one, slaughtered the Persians had 50,000 slain to the 500 Macedonians, or a kill ratio for the Macedonians of 100:1.

It doesn't get much better over time.

Persians fighting other Eastern tribes won. Persians meeting the West haven't won yet.

Israel is a nation founded by Western immigrants. Trained, supported, and co-oped by Western nations. Israel with
Western values, freedom of the press, freedom of religion, freedom of speech, and hold the concept of private party.

Iran should shut up, and back off. Or it's most likely to be another repeat of Persia against the West.

Even so, Iran will be using Western weapons. Otherwise, they'd still be using composite bows and wicker shields.

Western technologies. Western military capabilities. Western war-making history. Nothing like it in the world.

And nothing has changed.

Nothing.
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The Jews once killed 70,000 Persians in 2 days. They'll have no problem doing it again.
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History lesson.

The great country of Iran fought the much smaller country of Iraq to a complete standstill.

Neither side could do anything.

Mass idiots against mass idiots.

Let's see.

The Iraqi military fought Iran to a complete standstill.

Britain and the US with smaller numbers went through those same Iraqi forces, like crap through a goose.

And somehow, Israel is to fear these guys?

No one questions Iranian courage. They lined up and got slaughtered like the idiots they were. That takes courage.

Maximum stupidity, but courage.

Not exactly the type of folks who do well against Israel.

The Israeli kill ratio is unbelievable.

So the more numerous Iranians mean nothing.

Just more for the slaughter. If Iran can even pull it off, which I doubt.

Israel may destroy their nuclear facilities, but that's about all that will happen.

Darius I, determined to make the piddly Western nation of Greece a part of the vast Persian Empire. He lost 300 ships and 20,000 men at Capt Athos his first time out.

At Marathon, the mighty Persians arrayed 44,000 to 60,000 soldiers and cavalry against 16,000 Greeks on the Plain of Marathon. The Persians lost 6,400 men to 192 Greeks. To celebrate, the Greeks built the Parthenon, and engraved the names of the 192 inside.

Previously, Persian successes were against other Easterners. Not Westerners. Darius was killed putting down rebellions that started because the great Persian army was defeated by the piddly Greeks, which caused others to think they could do no worse.

Xerxes, decided to do what his father couldn't, and invade and conquer this dirt-poor, small group of Western Greeks.

He gathered an estimated 250,000+ of the cream of the cream of the Persian Empire, and was surprised to see 7,000 Greeks at the Hot Gates, led by Spartan King Leonidas, who had brought 300 Spartan Peers.

After giving them a few days to evaporate, Xerxes sent his elite Medes to bring them to him. Didn't work out. For two days, these 7,000 held the 250,000, before all but 700 Thespians and 300 Spartans were left.

They were killed, 1,000 Greeks, but over 25,000 Persians were killed. That's a 25:1 kill ratio.

In offshore naval action at Artesium, and due to storms, the Persians also lost 200 ships and another 40,000 men.

At Salamis, Xerxes saw a small fleet of Greek volunteer free men sink 200 Persian ships and 40,000 of his sailors drown. Scholars agree that this was a slaughter, say, a 40:1 kill ratio.

The following Spring, Mardonius led 300,000 Persians against 60,000 Greeks at Plataea, where they killed all but 43,000 Persians with 1,360 Greek losses. The surviving 43,000 Persians were killed at the Strymon river estuary by Alexander. That's a 220:1 kill ratio of Persians killed to Greeks killed.

Next action was Granicus. The Greeks enjoyed a 26:1 kill ratio.

Issus. 4:1 kill ratio, but since the battle took place near sunset, the Persians ran in the dark faster than the Greeks could pursue.

Guagemela. Outnumbered 250,000 to 47,000, the Macedonians, outnumbered five to one, slaughtered the Persians had 50,000 slain to the 500 Macedonians, or a kill ratio for the Macedonians of 100:1.

It doesn't get much better over time.

Persians fighting other Eastern tribes won. Persians meeting the West haven't won yet.

Israel is a nation founded by Western immigrants. Trained, supported, and co-oped by Western nations. Israel with
Western values, freedom of the press, freedom of religion, freedom of speech, and hold the concept of private party.

Iran should shut up, and back off. Or it's most likely to be another repeat of Persia against the West.

Even so, Iran will be using Western weapons. Otherwise, they'd still be using composite bows and wicker shields.

Western technologies. Western military capabilities. Western war-making history. Nothing like it in the world.

And nothing has changed.

Nothing.
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thanks for info. very interesting.

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Isn't that like beating up your sister to train for UFC?
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Nice, and the children are just collateral damage for their brain damaged 'training'

What a pathetic shithole nation, just as bad as the US and Canada
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GUN CONTROL HAS RESULTED IN THE SLAUGHTER OF 262 MILLION CITIZENS BY THEIR GOVERNMENTS OVER THE PAST 100 YEARS.

THE LIBERAL PARTY OF CANADA & THE NDP ENDORSE GUN CONTROL, AN ESSENTIAL POLICY OF HITLER, STALIN, MAO, POL POT, EDI AMIN, QADDAFI, SADDAM, ASSAD, & EVERY OTHER TYRANNICAL GOVERNMENT THIS PAST CENTURY.

CANADIANS MUST NEVER FORGET THE BETRAYAL OF BILLS C-68 & C-17. WE MUST NOT REST UNTIL THEY ARE FULLY REPEALED.

C-19 WAS A GOOD START......BUT JUST A START. GET OFF YOUR COLLECTIVE ASSES AND MAKE AN IMPACT. WE HAVE 26 MONTHS.

I, THEE BOB, SWEAR ON THE ALTER OF GOD TO FIGHT ALL FORMS OF CANADIAN TYRANNY AND SAVE MY COUNTRY FROM THE EVILS OF THE NEW WORLD ORDER. I WILL NEVER HAND IN MY GUNS. EVER. I AM A FREE MAN, I WILL NOT BE THE BITCH OF THE SOCIALIST ESTABLISHMENT. LEAVE ME ALONE.
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yes, shahab missles are more or less like fajr.....are they retarded?
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Please stop pretending you know ANYTHING.

Shahab's are actually pretty inaccurate ballistic missiles.

Why do you think America parked Aegis Destroyers both in Persian Gulf and the Med.? The SM-3 missile will kick Shahab's ass all day long.

Secondly, many/most of Iran's Shahabs were destroyed in that "mysterious" blast a year ago that als killed Iran's missile expert. Oops.

If that's not enough, Israel has Arrow-2 system to deal with the rest.

And actually you make fun of Fajr-5 rocketslike they are nothing but little fire-works.... but if one Fajr-5 ever hit your family's house, they'd have you re-assemble your putrid brood molecule by molecule. And Israel's 5th Iron Dome, even though it was unproven & rushed through development by 3 months for the conflict, showed excellent ability to intercept Fajr-5 -- even though ID was only designed to deal with smaller modifed Chinese Grads.

So should tell you how advanced the Arrow 2, as well as Patriot-Advanced-Capability and in about a year Magic Wand & Arrow 3 SAM systems... really are.

But of course, if a Shahab or 2 does leak through and cause civlian deaths, then Israel will EMP the fuck out of Iran with Dolphin-fired Popeye-Turbo cruise-missiles, and if need be Jericho-II and Jericho-III MIRV.

Of course by the time Super-Stuxnet has done its job in case of an all-out way with Iran.... IRGC and Ayatollahs will not know their ass from their mouth from the hole in their bunker's wall.
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The Jews once killed 70,000 Persians in 2 days. They'll have no problem doing it again.
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Rachel Maddow is HOT!!! - Seriously I'd hit it.

A VOTE FOR JUSTIN TRUDEAU IN 2015, WOULD BE THE MOST COWARDLY & IRRESPONSIBLE THING A CANADIAN CITIZEN COULD DO TO THEIR OWN PEOPLE. GUN GRABBERS ARE THE COMMON ENEMY OF ALL PEOPLE.

GUN CONTROL HAS RESULTED IN THE SLAUGHTER OF 262 MILLION CITIZENS BY THEIR GOVERNMENTS OVER THE PAST 100 YEARS.

THE LIBERAL PARTY OF CANADA & THE NDP ENDORSE GUN CONTROL, AN ESSENTIAL POLICY OF HITLER, STALIN, MAO, POL POT, EDI AMIN, QADDAFI, SADDAM, ASSAD, & EVERY OTHER TYRANNICAL GOVERNMENT THIS PAST CENTURY.

CANADIANS MUST NEVER FORGET THE BETRAYAL OF BILLS C-68 & C-17. WE MUST NOT REST UNTIL THEY ARE FULLY REPEALED.

C-19 WAS A GOOD START......BUT JUST A START. GET OFF YOUR COLLECTIVE ASSES AND MAKE AN IMPACT. WE HAVE 26 MONTHS.

I, THEE BOB, SWEAR ON THE ALTER OF GOD TO FIGHT ALL FORMS OF CANADIAN TYRANNY AND SAVE MY COUNTRY FROM THE EVILS OF THE NEW WORLD ORDER. I WILL NEVER HAND IN MY GUNS. EVER. I AM A FREE MAN, I WILL NOT BE THE BITCH OF THE SOCIALIST ESTABLISHMENT. LEAVE ME ALONE.
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The Jews once killed 70,000 Persians in 2 days. They'll have no problem doing it again.
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Yeah bud, you go ahead and believe those blood-thirsty sadistic Purim fairytales.

The only way they could win that kind of war is by using their nuclear "samson option".

And if they do it, they'll be turned to glass by Russia and China within MINUTES. And like van Creveld said, "If Israel goes under, it will take the world down with it".

So they're going to launch everything they have, the tumors' last attempt at metastasis so to speak.

And then we're all going into a nice lond freezing cold nuclear winter. Totally worth it.


But hey, praised be YHWEH, right?! I'm sure he'll save the chosen people without hesitation. Gotta love me some religious nutjobs destroying the world.

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Once again, the MSM confirms my post made about 3 days ago.....

Thread: Thanksgiving & Black Friday Cybergeddon Terror?


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The situation with Israel and Hamas could have been contrived to initiate something bigger to come much later...Considering the fact that the Israel started this thing and are the same ones agreeing to a ceasefire. The situation with Israel smells fishy.

There is this crazy guy always attempting to discredit my posts. Seems he is a paid distractor and knows I am unto the truth.
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History lesson.

The great country of Iran fought the much smaller country of Iraq to a complete standstill.

Neither side could do anything.

Mass idiots against mass idiots.

Let's see.

The Iraqi military fought Iran to a complete standstill.

Britain and the US with smaller numbers went through those same Iraqi forces, like crap through a goose.

And somehow, Israel is to fear these guys?

No one questions Iranian courage. They lined up and got slaughtered like the idiots they were. That takes courage.

Maximum stupidity, but courage.

Not exactly the type of folks who do well against Israel.

The Israeli kill ratio is unbelievable.

So the more numerous Iranians mean nothing.

Just more for the slaughter. If Iran can even pull it off, which I doubt.

Israel may destroy their nuclear facilities, but that's about all that will happen.

Darius I, determined to make the piddly Western nation of Greece a part of the vast Persian Empire. He lost 300 ships and 20,000 men at Capt Athos his first time out.

At Marathon, the mighty Persians arrayed 44,000 to 60,000 soldiers and cavalry against 16,000 Greeks on the Plain of Marathon. The Persians lost 6,400 men to 192 Greeks. To celebrate, the Greeks built the Parthenon, and engraved the names of the 192 inside.

Previously, Persian successes were against other Easterners. Not Westerners. Darius was killed putting down rebellions that started because the great Persian army was defeated by the piddly Greeks, which caused others to think they could do no worse.

Xerxes, decided to do what his father couldn't, and invade and conquer this dirt-poor, small group of Western Greeks.

He gathered an estimated 250,000+ of the cream of the cream of the Persian Empire, and was surprised to see 7,000 Greeks at the Hot Gates, led by Spartan King Leonidas, who had brought 300 Spartan Peers.

After giving them a few days to evaporate, Xerxes sent his elite Medes to bring them to him. Didn't work out. For two days, these 7,000 held the 250,000, before all but 700 Thespians and 300 Spartans were left.

They were killed, 1,000 Greeks, but over 25,000 Persians were killed. That's a 25:1 kill ratio.

In offshore naval action at Artesium, and due to storms, the Persians also lost 200 ships and another 40,000 men.

At Salamis, Xerxes saw a small fleet of Greek volunteer free men sink 200 Persian ships and 40,000 of his sailors drown. Scholars agree that this was a slaughter, say, a 40:1 kill ratio.

The following Spring, Mardonius led 300,000 Persians against 60,000 Greeks at Plataea, where they killed all but 43,000 Persians with 1,360 Greek losses. The surviving 43,000 Persians were killed at the Strymon river estuary by Alexander. That's a 220:1 kill ratio of Persians killed to Greeks killed.

Next action was Granicus. The Greeks enjoyed a 26:1 kill ratio.

Issus. 4:1 kill ratio, but since the battle took place near sunset, the Persians ran in the dark faster than the Greeks could pursue.

Guagemela. Outnumbered 250,000 to 47,000, the Macedonians, outnumbered five to one, slaughtered the Persians had 50,000 slain to the 500 Macedonians, or a kill ratio for the Macedonians of 100:1.

It doesn't get much better over time.

Persians fighting other Eastern tribes won. Persians meeting the West haven't won yet.

Israel is a nation founded by Western immigrants. Trained, supported, and co-oped by Western nations. Israel with
Western values, freedom of the press, freedom of religion, freedom of speech, and hold the concept of private party.

Iran should shut up, and back off. Or it's most likely to be another repeat of Persia against the West.

Even so, Iran will be using Western weapons. Otherwise, they'd still be using composite bows and wicker shields.

Western technologies. Western military capabilities. Western war-making history. Nothing like it in the world.

And nothing has changed.

Nothing.
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Nice historic data.
But, wait a minute... ARE YOU COMPARING SPARTA WITH ISRAEL??!?!?! HAHAHAHA STUPID FUCKTARD.
Hope we get lucky enough to have some real warriors like those to stop the nazi-hebrew-masons that control every nation...
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israel > sparta. no offence greeks.

ass hole you should learn how the tiny israel stood against combined arab armies equiped with the best russian tech, and still israel kicked ass!



iran computer networks are packed with malware.

thier shahab will fail in mid air.
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The Jews once killed 70,000 Persians in 2 days. They'll have no problem doing it again.
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Yeah bud, you go ahead and believe those blood-thirsty sadistic Purim fairytales.

The only way they could win that kind of war is by using their nuclear "samson option".

And if they do it, they'll be turned to glass by Russia and China within MINUTES. And like van Creveld said, "If Israel goes under, it will take the world down with it".

So they're going to launch everything they have, the tumors' last attempt at metastasis so to speak.

And then we're all going into a nice lond freezing cold nuclear winter. Totally worth it.


But hey, praised be YHWEH, right?! I'm sure he'll save the chosen people without hesitation. Gotta love me some religious nutjobs destroying the world.

banana2 sidewayssideways
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we dont need to go nuclear to defeat iran, and even if we do, russia and china wont do shit
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Nice history data? Thanks, you're welcome.

As for the rest? Heard it all before. You're just like a lot of others who cannot, and will not pay any attention to facts.

Facts get in your way, and you just blow more crap out your mouth.

Shall we talk about Gaza, for example?

Let's!

It was under Egyptian control.

May19, 1967, Cairo Radio

"This is our chance Arabs, to deal Israel a mortal blow of annihilation, to blot out its entire presence in our holy land."

May 22, 1967 - "The Arab people is firmly resolved to wipe Israel off the map."

May 30, 1967 - "With the closing of the Gulf of Akaba, Israel is faced with two alternatives, either of which will destroy it; either it will be strangled to death by the Arab military and economic boycott, or it will perish by the fire of Arab forces encompassing it from the South, from the North, and from the East."

June 1, 1967 - Palestinians said, "We shall destroy Israel and its inhabitants, and as for the survivors - if there are any - the boats are ready to deport them."

May 20, 1967 Syrian Defense Minister Assad, said, " . . . I as a military man, believe the time has come to enter into a battle if annihilation."

May 31, 1967, Iraqi President Aref said, "The existence of Israel is an error which must be rectified. This is an opportunity to wipe out the ignominy which has been with us since 1948. Our goal is clear - to wipe Israel off the map. We shall, Allah willing, meet in Tel Aviv and Haifa."

So Egypt lined up 100,000 men and 1,000 tanks on the southern border, Jordan put 45,000 men in the West Bank, and Syria reinforced the dug in positions at the Golan Heights some 40,000 troops, 260 tanks and self-propelled guns, all in concrete bunkers, behind massive mine fields, and 265 artillery pieces.

Altogether, Israel could only field 45,000 men and 650 tanks which would have to be split among three fronts.

Not a snowball's chance in hell.

But they kicked everyone's ass. Took all of Gaza, the Golan Heights, the West Bank, and even the entire Sinai penninsula.

Thus, Gaza came under Israeli rule. Israel didn't want Gaza, but it came with the territory.

The Israelis tried to return Gaza in the Israeli/Egyptian peace talks occurred in 1979, but Egypt wanted no part of Gaza.

A primary source of suicide bombings, kidnappings with murder, and rocket attacks are now being addressed by blocking off the source of these attacks.

You crap in your nest, you sleep in it.
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I've thought the same thing about Russian troops fighting in Chechnya...
that it was practice for something bigger.


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Nice history data? Thanks, you're welcome.

As for the rest? Heard it all before. You're just like a lot of others who cannot, and will not pay any attention to facts.

Facts get in your way, and you just blow more crap out your mouth.

Shall we talk about Gaza, for example?

Let's!

It was under Egyptian control.

May19, 1967, Cairo Radio

"This is our chance Arabs, to deal Israel a mortal blow of annihilation, to blot out its entire presence in our holy land."

May 22, 1967 - "The Arab people is firmly resolved to wipe Israel off the map."

May 30, 1967 - "With the closing of the Gulf of Akaba, Israel is faced with two alternatives, either of which will destroy it; either it will be strangled to death by the Arab military and economic boycott, or it will perish by the fire of Arab forces encompassing it from the South, from the North, and from the East."

June 1, 1967 - Palestinians said, "We shall destroy Israel and its inhabitants, and as for the survivors - if there are any - the boats are ready to deport them."

May 20, 1967 Syrian Defense Minister Assad, said, " . . . I as a military man, believe the time has come to enter into a battle if annihilation."

May 31, 1967, Iraqi President Aref said, "The existence of Israel is an error which must be rectified. This is an opportunity to wipe out the ignominy which has been with us since 1948. Our goal is clear - to wipe Israel off the map. We shall, Allah willing, meet in Tel Aviv and Haifa."

So Egypt lined up 100,000 men and 1,000 tanks on the southern border, Jordan put 45,000 men in the West Bank, and Syria reinforced the dug in positions at the Golan Heights some 40,000 troops, 260 tanks and self-propelled guns, all in concrete bunkers, behind massive mine fields, and 265 artillery pieces.

Altogether, Israel could only field 45,000 men and 650 tanks which would have to be split among three fronts.

Not a snowball's chance in hell.

But they kicked everyone's ass. Took all of Gaza, the Golan Heights, the West Bank, and even the entire Sinai penninsula.

Thus, Gaza came under Israeli rule. Israel didn't want Gaza, but it came with the territory.

The Israelis tried to return Gaza in the Israeli/Egyptian peace talks occurred in 1979, but Egypt wanted no part of Gaza.

A primary source of suicide bombings, kidnappings with murder, and rocket attacks are now being addressed by blocking off the source of these attacks.

You crap in your nest, you sleep in it.
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Nice history data? Thanks, you're welcome.

As for the rest? Heard it all before. You're just like a lot of others who cannot, and will not pay any attention to facts.

Facts get in your way, and you just blow more crap out your mouth.

Shall we talk about Gaza, for example?

Let's!

It was under Egyptian control.

May19, 1967, Cairo Radio

"This is our chance Arabs, to deal Israel a mortal blow of annihilation, to blot out its entire presence in our holy land."

May 22, 1967 - "The Arab people is firmly resolved to wipe Israel off the map."

May 30, 1967 - "With the closing of the Gulf of Akaba, Israel is faced with two alternatives, either of which will destroy it; either it will be strangled to death by the Arab military and economic boycott, or it will perish by the fire of Arab forces encompassing it from the South, from the North, and from the East."

June 1, 1967 - Palestinians said, "We shall destroy Israel and its inhabitants, and as for the survivors - if there are any - the boats are ready to deport them."

May 20, 1967 Syrian Defense Minister Assad, said, " . . . I as a military man, believe the time has come to enter into a battle if annihilation."

May 31, 1967, Iraqi President Aref said, "The existence of Israel is an error which must be rectified. This is an opportunity to wipe out the ignominy which has been with us since 1948. Our goal is clear - to wipe Israel off the map. We shall, Allah willing, meet in Tel Aviv and Haifa."

So Egypt lined up 100,000 men and 1,000 tanks on the southern border, Jordan put 45,000 men in the West Bank, and Syria reinforced the dug in positions at the Golan Heights some 40,000 troops, 260 tanks and self-propelled guns, all in concrete bunkers, behind massive mine fields, and 265 artillery pieces.

Altogether, Israel could only field 45,000 men and 650 tanks which would have to be split among three fronts.

Not a snowball's chance in hell.

But they kicked everyone's ass. Took all of Gaza, the Golan Heights, the West Bank, and even the entire Sinai penninsula.

Thus, Gaza came under Israeli rule. Israel didn't want Gaza, but it came with the territory.

The Israelis tried to return Gaza in the Israeli/Egyptian peace talks occurred in 1979, but Egypt wanted no part of Gaza.

A primary source of suicide bombings, kidnappings with murder, and rocket attacks are now being addressed by blocking off the source of these attacks.

You crap in your nest, you sleep in it.
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I love threads where everyone conspires about how these (currently) imaginary battles play out.
We were meant to live for so much more, have we lost ourselves?
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Nice history data? Thanks, you're welcome.

As for the rest? Heard it all before. You're just like a lot of others who cannot, and will not pay any attention to facts.

Facts get in your way, and you just blow more crap out your mouth.

Shall we talk about Gaza, for example?

Let's!

It was under Egyptian control.

May19, 1967, Cairo Radio

"This is our chance Arabs, to deal Israel a mortal blow of annihilation, to blot out its entire presence in our holy land."

May 22, 1967 - "The Arab people is firmly resolved to wipe Israel off the map."

May 30, 1967 - "With the closing of the Gulf of Akaba, Israel is faced with two alternatives, either of which will destroy it; either it will be strangled to death by the Arab military and economic boycott, or it will perish by the fire of Arab forces encompassing it from the South, from the North, and from the East."

June 1, 1967 - Palestinians said, "We shall destroy Israel and its inhabitants, and as for the survivors - if there are any - the boats are ready to deport them."

May 20, 1967 Syrian Defense Minister Assad, said, " . . . I as a military man, believe the time has come to enter into a battle if annihilation."

May 31, 1967, Iraqi President Aref said, "The existence of Israel is an error which must be rectified. This is an opportunity to wipe out the ignominy which has been with us since 1948. Our goal is clear - to wipe Israel off the map. We shall, Allah willing, meet in Tel Aviv and Haifa."

So Egypt lined up 100,000 men and 1,000 tanks on the southern border, Jordan put 45,000 men in the West Bank, and Syria reinforced the dug in positions at the Golan Heights some 40,000 troops, 260 tanks and self-propelled guns, all in concrete bunkers, behind massive mine fields, and 265 artillery pieces.

Altogether, Israel could only field 45,000 men and 650 tanks which would have to be split among three fronts.

Not a snowball's chance in hell.

But they kicked everyone's ass. Took all of Gaza, the Golan Heights, the West Bank, and even the entire Sinai penninsula.

Thus, Gaza came under Israeli rule. Israel didn't want Gaza, but it came with the territory.

The Israelis tried to return Gaza in the Israeli/Egyptian peace talks occurred in 1979, but Egypt wanted no part of Gaza.

A primary source of suicide bombings, kidnappings with murder, and rocket attacks are now being addressed by blocking off the source of these attacks.

You crap in your nest, you sleep in it.
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It gets worse. Much worse.

One of THE Architechts of the Holocaust was... Palestinian religious leader -- Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Haj Amin Al-Husseini. (who just happened to also be the uncle to the Egyptian master-terrorist, Yassir Arafat). He pushed and prodded Hitler back in 1930's to expedite the Final Solution to the Jewish Problem.

Then in the late 1940's you have the Arab League Secretary-General who was euphorically proclaiming that the combined Arab armies were going to snuff the newborn Jewish State in its craddle: i.e. to effect "a momenteous massacre [of the Jews] on par with Ghengis Khan and the Crusades"

Then there was the brazen Arab armies attack on Israel on THE Holiest day of the year, Yom Kippur... in order to overwhelm the unsuspecting Jews in 1973. Initally it looked like Israel was going to be destroyed. But it all ended with Ariel Sharon encircling Egyptian 3rd army not far from Cairo. Ooops.

Then there was the "Turkey Shoot" in Bekaa Valley in 1982... to this day truly unprecedented arial domination that is even more impressive than the aformentioned 6-Day War. Soviet bosses Leonid Brezhnev and Yuri Andropov were so outraged, they almost fired the entire Soviet general staff, LOL. This is the battle that is credited with the beginning of the End of Soviet Empire. Brezhnev and Andropov were soon dead and, after Bekaa Valley, Gorbachev was not going to mess with Israel or the US/NATO militarily ever again -0----> enter Perestroika, Glosnost', Lech Walescza riots, fall of Berlin Wall, failed Augustn Putsch -----> then Gorbachev's offial dissolution of USSR in Dec. 1991.


I'd say Israel is WAY better than Sparta. Sparta could only fight, while Israel is full of wonderous things & wonderful people who greatly contribute to development & progress of ALL aspects of Modern Human Civiliazation.
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I love threads where everyone conspires about how these (currently) imaginary battles play out.
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yes
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this treas is a BS

or jew tards.. cant compare gaza with iran :DDDDD

gaza have no weapon for any reaction . with iran will be really different
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this treas is a BS

or jew tards.. cant compare gaza with iran :DDDDD

gaza have no weapon for any reaction . with iran will be really different
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Yeah, more targets.
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Re: Officials: Israel's Gaza Offensive Was Training For A Possible Fight With Iran
The eight-day Gaza offensive was a practice run for any future armed confrontation with Iran, U.S. and Israeli officials told The New York Times.
“In Operation Pillar of Defense, Israel was not confronting Gaza, but Iran,” Michael B. Oren, the Israeli ambassador to the United States and a military historian, told the Times.


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See i told you guys. This about Iran!!!

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