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Astrological theoretical discussion - the change of the ages

 
andreidita (OP)

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And concerning the Grand Galactic Cross and all the fuss about 21.12 galactic alignment.

astronomically the crossing happened in 1998:

'In simple terms, the Precessional Cross is a mappable astrophysical transition occurring when the vernal point is exactly perpendicular to the galactic equatorial node (GEN) (the Gate of God). This exact square "appears" to occur in 1998 ( ~July *). The December solstices occurring around the time of the exact cross cause the solstice sun (which is exactly square the vernal point) to lie upon the galactic equatorial node.'

much information on this subject by a great guy, Nick Fiorenza here:

[link to www.lunarplanner.com]

of course this year's winter equinox might be the chosen moment to make such information available to the consciousness of many.
according to the principle of downward manifestation through levels of consciousness.
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The transition or movement of fixed stars from one astrological sign to another is the slowest and most dramatic of all, more so than the movement of the outer planets across the zodiac signs.
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yes and Regulus is one of the four arms of the Grand cross with aldebaran and other two (they don't come to mind at the moment)

long time ago they pointed to the equinoxes and solstices (when was this exactly, because i do not have it in mind now)

and when exactly did Regulus entered Virgo from Leo.

all i'm asking friend is joining together with the bits of knowledge we have gathered in this field, to co-create together a nice and insightful thread for others to enjoy, whose path din not yet lead them in understanding the movement of the Grand Clock

hf
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The shifting of fixed stars from one astrological sign to another is caused by earth's precession of the equinoxes which is a cycle of approximately 26,000 years.

Earth's axial precession is actually not regular or uniform, so most astrological softwares that track this precession is really just an approximation based on a uniform and nonaccelerating motion.

One astrological software dated Regulus' shift to Virgo last November 29, 2011. Again, this is just an approximation. I actually believe the shift is yet to come, but very soon.
[link to www.librarising.com]

When Regulus actually starts to enter Virgo coming from Leo, it is like Regulus is "trapped" between these 2 astrological signs. The first image that comes to my mind is that of the Sphinx which in Greek tradition, has the haunches of a lion, the wings of a great bird, and the face of a woman.
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so as you will read in detail in the above link the last 'fall' of our solar system lasted for 12.000 years

"As we move another 90° in the precessional cycle, Earth's polar axis aligns with the galactic equatorial axis, with Earth's NCP aligning with the GEN (Gate of God at 5° sidereal Sag), and with the vernal point at 5° sidereal Virgo. Here, the vernal axis lies perpendicular to the galactic equatorial axis creating the "first" erect (90°) cross in Earth's Precessional Cycle. Note also that Earth's polar axis begins to lean away from the galactic plane of light (marking "The Fall" from Unified Awareness), and which begins a 180° (~12,000-year) period of temporal darkness. Thus, "The "Fall" occurred about 12000 years ago."

to put things in perspective, from the standpoint of the life/consciousness/evolution of our solar system, through its leader Sol:

-in 1998 the threshold was passed into the Galactic Light, by our Greater Brother itself Sol
-then the dissemination to the lesser brothers of our systemic body (solar system) commenced
- Venus as being esoterically the greater sister of earth, assured the cleaning of gaia, in the period marked by the two Venus transits (june 2004 - june 2012)
- Now as Gaia is cleansed and tuned to Galactic Light, the process will unfold in the consciousness of gaia's children (us, humans)
- and here we are :)

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The shifting of fixed stars from one astrological sign to another is caused by earth's precession of the equinoxes which is a cycle of approximately 26,000 years.

Earth's axial precession is actually not regular or uniform, so most astrological softwares that track this precession is really just an approximation based on a uniform and nonaccelerating motion.

One astrological software dated Regulus' shift to Virgo last November 29, 2011. Again, this is just an approximation. I actually believe the shift is yet to come, but very soon.
[link to www.librarising.com]

When Regulus actually starts to enter Virgo coming from Leo, it is like Regulus is "trapped" between these 2 astrological signs. The first image that comes to my mind is that of the Sphinx which in Greek tradition, has the haunches of a lion, the wings of a great bird, and the face of a woman.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28379809


was just searching for some quotes pointing to the sphinx as being the joining of leo and virgo constellations, in a prior time :)

"Leo is a part of the Sphinx, and upon this I need not enlarge as we have touched upon this elsewhere.
This is a great mystery. Virgo and Leo together stand for the whole man, for the God-man as well as for spirit-matter. It is important to have this in mind, for when the nature of the world is revealed, then the mystery of the Sphinx will no longer exist."

"The mystery of the Sphinx, connected with the relation of Leo and Virgo, and tied up with the secret of the solar Angels. This is not the mystery of soul and form, but the mystery of the higher and the lower mind and their relation to each other."
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I can only talk from the laymans point of view as i do not know about astrology.
If there is a ww1 then there will always be a ww2... unless humanity changes its core values based on understanding rather than fear.
Let me explain
After ww2 our parents were so horrified by what humans had done that they promised it would never happen to their children. Based on this fear they started to build the future. The future thus came in to being with its core energies based on fear. But time eraises memories and very soon the new generation forgets its past and the whole process of wars will start all over again.
Eventually somewhere in the middle of all this repeated process humanity will grow and come to understanding that to break the chain of this repetition they must lead their future generation on understanding and not fear. When this happens then humanity will not have to go through the next warld war.
If one reflects this on to earth process and progress of humans from first race through to sixth race and so on, one would see the pattern of repetition of one race after another with repeated physical purifications such as shift of the axis until the chain in the process is broken. This is the moment of freedom from the clutches of repetition and humanity jumping to the next level.
When that time happens there would be no need for a purification to take place in a physical form (as there will be no "next world war".
Indeed physical purification in the form of pole shifts etc etc were neccessery for growth of mankind, but there will come a time that this process will stop because of human understanding.

With all due respect i beg to differ regarding the issue of another purification such as a physical shift needed before the sixth race populates.
If human beings can manage to avoid a ww3 through understanding then rest assured that this taming of human ego will also reflect on to cosmos and mother earth.
History will repeat itself until... it doesn't
That is the moment when energies of two planets opposing each other will become as one.

For the sixth race to go forward and achieve its final aim, the shift has to be through understanding and not physical regardless of number of planets opposing each other. The illusion of their opposition will become apparant and will no longer rule. peace
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Indeed physical purification in the form of pole shifts etc etc were neccessery for growth of mankind, but there will come a time that this process will stop because of human understanding.

With all due respect i beg to differ regarding the issue of another purification such as a physical shift needed before the sixth race populates.
If human beings can manage to avoid a ww3 through understanding then rest assured that this taming of human ego will also reflect on to cosmos and mother earth.
History will repeat itself until... it doesn't
That is the moment when energies of two planets opposing each other will become as one.

For the sixth race to go forward and achieve its final aim, the shift has to be through understanding and not physical regardless of number of planets opposing each other. The illusion of their opposition will become apparant and will no longer rule. peace
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5449673


indeed. i totally agree with this.
the point of those quotes was at another level, and i am glad you see through it.
history is a pattern which has a self-repeating power at a certain level of 'illusory' view of reality.
when one gets past the illusory hold of the past, the simple truth that you express becomes evident
Future in its full meaning is completely different from the past, and it means a new level of subjective consciousness in understanding reality.

But getting on ground level, what is the best way to dispel a fear of catastrophic events NOW
it is not denying the possibility, because that possibility was elicited in the first place by certain facts, although interpreted from a fear based / illusory point of subjective
consciousness.
maybe it is better to put that possibility in a larger context (cosmic / age based) so to dispel that fear working from inside the accepted framework.
Because in subjective terms it matters whether that happens Now, or 100 years later. If one's belief can be switched from now to 100 years later, then the fear is dispelled for the moment.
And then one can use his energy to live in joy and achieve that level of consciousness so that the possibility you envision might manifest in reality at some point in the future.

hope, i made myself somewhat clear
glad you shared
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a little quote about the cross, in astrological key:

""The Cross of many changes (the Mutable Cross.) continues with its whirling, carrying crucified thereon the form of a man in whom is found the seed of all illusion.

But, from the Cross whereon he has been slain容'en though he knew it not葉he man climbs down and feels his way (with pain and many tears) on to another Cross預 Cross of blinding light, of fiery pain, of bitter woe, and yet the Cross of liberation. It is a stationary Cross, fixed in the Heavens, and guarded by the Angel.

Behind the Cross, another Cross appears, but that he may not reach (the Angel guards the way!) until the Bull has rent and torn the man, and then葉he light shines forth; until the Serpent dread has wrestled with the man and brought him to his knees, and then葉he lifting up into the light; until the Lion has been tamed, the secret of the Sphinx revealed, and then葉he revelation of the inner light; until the man has lifted up his water-pot and joined the ranks of those who are the Water-bearers, and then the flowing of the stream of life will fill his water-pot and drain the rancid pool and cleanse its source and thus reveal the hidden way which leads unto the innermost light, hid by the final Cross. Then, from the Cross of man, the initiate finds his way, passes the Angel and leaves behind the inner torn veil, mounts the major Cross and passes into day, the final day. The wheel for him stands still. The sun and stars, for him, fade out. A great light is seen and...""

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Indeed physical purification in the form of pole shifts etc etc were neccessery for growth of mankind, but there will come a time that this process will stop because of human understanding.

With all due respect i beg to differ regarding the issue of another purification such as a physical shift needed before the sixth race populates.
If human beings can manage to avoid a ww3 through understanding then rest assured that this taming of human ego will also reflect on to cosmos and mother earth.
History will repeat itself until... it doesn't
That is the moment when energies of two planets opposing each other will become as one.

For the sixth race to go forward and achieve its final aim, the shift has to be through understanding and not physical regardless of number of planets opposing each other. The illusion of their opposition will become apparant and will no longer rule. peace
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5449673


indeed. i totally agree with this.
the point of those quotes was at another level, and i am glad you see through it.
history is a pattern which has a self-repeating power at a certain level of 'illusory' view of reality.
when one gets past the illusory hold of the past, the simple truth that you express becomes evident
Future in its full meaning is completely different from the past, and it means a new level of subjective consciousness in understanding reality.

But getting on ground level, what is the best way to dispel a fear of catastrophic events NOW
it is not denying the possibility, because that possibility was elicited in the first place by certain facts, although interpreted from a fear based / illusory point of subjective
consciousness.
maybe it is better to put that possibility in a larger context (cosmic / age based) so to dispel that fear working from inside the accepted framework.
Because in subjective terms it matters whether that happens Now, or 100 years later. If one's belief can be switched from now to 100 years later, then the fear is dispelled for the moment.
And then one can use his energy to live in joy and achieve that level of consciousness so that the possibility you envision might manifest in reality at some point in the future.

hope, i made myself somewhat clear
glad you shared
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I share your thoughts and i do not have more to add in that respect except i enjoyed reading your thread.
These times are the best moments of my life as i watch coincidences give way to synchronicities. One is chaos and the other is order yet they were both one and the same. It was all a matter of prospective. lol
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And i will also add that the famous quote "order out of chaos" is a realisation and not an ACT
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And concerning the Grand Galactic Cross and all the fuss about 21.12 galactic alignment.

astronomically the crossing happened in 1998:

'In simple terms, the Precessional Cross is a mappable astrophysical transition occurring when the vernal point is exactly perpendicular to the galactic equatorial node (GEN) (the Gate of God). This exact square "appears" to occur in 1998 ( ~July *). The December solstices occurring around the time of the exact cross cause the solstice sun (which is exactly square the vernal point) to lie upon the galactic equatorial node.'

much information on this subject by a great guy, Nick Fiorenza here:

[link to www.lunarplanner.com]

of course this year's winter equinox might be the chosen moment to make such information available to the consciousness of many.
according to the principle of downward manifestation through levels of consciousness.
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so as you will read in detail in the above link the last 'fall' of our solar system lasted for 12.000 years

"As we move another 90° in the precessional cycle, Earth's polar axis aligns with the galactic equatorial axis, with Earth's NCP aligning with the GEN (Gate of God at 5° sidereal Sag), and with the vernal point at 5° sidereal Virgo. Here, the vernal axis lies perpendicular to the galactic equatorial axis creating the "first" erect (90°) cross in Earth's Precessional Cycle. Note also that Earth's polar axis begins to lean away from the galactic plane of light (marking "The Fall" from Unified Awareness), and which begins a 180° (~12,000-year) period of temporal darkness. Thus, "The "Fall" occurred about 12000 years ago."

to put things in perspective, from the standpoint of the life/consciousness/evolution of our solar system, through its leader Sol:

-in 1998 the threshold was passed into the Galactic Light, by our Greater Brother itself Sol
-then the dissemination to the lesser brothers of our systemic body (solar system) commenced
- Venus as being esoterically the greater sister of earth, assured the cleaning of gaia, in the period marked by the two Venus transits (june 2004 - june 2012)
- Now as Gaia is cleansed and tuned to Galactic Light, the process will unfold in the consciousness of gaia's children (us, humans)
- and here we are :)
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Excelent!

I am loving what everyone else have said also. What a wonderful thread:)
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"When we look out into the cosmos we are looking along a
particular wavelength or frequency様ike being tuned to a radio station or operating only in ultraviolet. Earth is a planet of deep material manifestation. Of course the universe is alive with consciousness on etheric levels and higher, but there is little conscious intelligent life at the depth of prakritic immersion experienced by Earth humanity. So we are both alone and not alone.
...
Our (planetary) Logos, being a rebel and willful but also stimulated by love as a light-bringer, chose to go beyond the current limits of the extension of unified consciousness in the galaxy. Whether the experience of Earth will serve as a warning or an encouragement remains as yet undecided but the potential is for Earth to help the evolutionary advance of life in the galaxy in a potent way."
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"So what will the culture of a Seventh Ray Aquarian Age
look like?
1. Light supernal. I have already given out much about this peculiar sevenfold synthetic light that flows from the atmic plane. This light will reveal the hidden mystery at the heart of substance. It will thus make possible a new form of energy that can be harnessed by humanity. It will also change the relationship of the human kingdom to the other kingdoms in nature. The mystery of electricity.

2. Love eternal. This is the mystery that lies behind all polarity. Duality will no longer be seen as a reason for battle. The Martian tendencies of the Sixth Ray Age will be replaced with the beneficent magic of Jupiter. Both sides of all polarities will be seen as equally divine and the charge between them will beseen as a precious generator of love. Relationships of all kinds will be transformed.

3. Life more abundant. The living power of God will be released upon the physical plane. The result will be a greater freedom from fear, a simpler way of living that frees up economic resources and makes possible a truly creative life. That creativity will extend to the role of our civilisation in the galaxy. The secret of Fire and the energy of Uranus.

4. The Presence of Divinity. Peace, Joy and Freedom will be terms that signify something far deeper and more pervasive in the life of human experience than it is currently possible to feel or express. The suffering of the soul is great in the current cycle and will even increase over the next period, but it is suffering with a purpose, suffering that will bring in a new birth, the birth of humanity as a self-conscious divine being."

E.T.A. - in progress. new shipments of aquarian enery dawning soon. retailers accepted daily :)))
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Our (planetary) Logos, being a rebel and willful but also stimulated by love as a light-bringer, chose to go beyond the current limits of the extension of unified consciousness in the galaxy. Whether the experience of Earth will serve as a warning or an encouragement remains as yet undecided but the potential is for Earth to help the evolutionary advance of life in the galaxy in a potent way."
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Hi OP :)
Was a very busy weekend with family :)

This quote above resonates deeply....
I personally believe the experience of Earth will serve as encouragement - I feel all (galactic) 'eyes' are on us right now and that yes, what we are doing right now will absolutely serve in the evolutionary advancement of many throughout the cosmos. We are Masters of Limitation and we have earned that title among the cosmos because of what we have undertaken to do here in this 3D realm of polarity, the illusion of separation. We have played this game sooooo well!! I can almost imagine other dimensional entities looking in on this and saying to themselves - "wow! if they can do it......!!!"

This here, now, is such an exciting time!! No wonder 7 billion souls are here at this time to witness it!!

Kismet
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Hi OP :)
Was a very busy weekend with family :)

This quote above resonates deeply....
I personally believe the experience of Earth will serve as encouragement - I feel all (galactic) 'eyes' are on us right now and that yes, what we are doing right now will absolutely serve in the evolutionary advancement of many throughout the cosmos. We are Masters of Limitation and we have earned that title among the cosmos because of what we have undertaken to do here in this 3D realm of polarity, the illusion of separation. We have played this game sooooo well!! I can almost imagine other dimensional entities looking in on this and saying to themselves - "wow! if they can do it......!!!"

This here, now, is such an exciting time!! No wonder 7 billion souls are here at this time to witness it!!

Kismet
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indeed :)
just found today the new enactment of the theosophical teachings in the blavatsky/bailey line.
and the quote is from the book occult cosmology that you can find below (and a few others):

[link to www.shamballaschool.org]

enjoy

hf
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Hi OP :)
Was a very busy weekend with family :)

This quote above resonates deeply....
I personally believe the experience of Earth will serve as encouragement - I feel all (galactic) 'eyes' are on us right now and that yes, what we are doing right now will absolutely serve in the evolutionary advancement of many throughout the cosmos. We are Masters of Limitation and we have earned that title among the cosmos because of what we have undertaken to do here in this 3D realm of polarity, the illusion of separation. We have played this game sooooo well!! I can almost imagine other dimensional entities looking in on this and saying to themselves - "wow! if they can do it......!!!"

This here, now, is such an exciting time!! No wonder 7 billion souls are here at this time to witness it!!

Kismet
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21363812


indeed :)
just found today the new enactment of the theosophical teachings in the blavatsky/bailey line.
and the quote is from the book occult cosmology that you can find below (and a few others):

[link to www.shamballaschool.org]

enjoy

hf
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how synchronous of you - I was just reading about Bailey!

I'll check out your link too :)

Kismet
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how synchronous of you - I was just reading about Bailey!

I'll check out your link too :)

Kismet
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btw the next important timelines (after 2012) are indicated here as 2025, then 2050
the end is beautiful though:

"Allow your life to be increasingly guided from this living well and let the heart serve as the touchstone for all your activities and relationships. Pay careful attention to those
with whom your heart resonates deeply and draw close to them.
You will find them across many traditions and you will find them holding ideas and alignments that may be very different from your own. Learn the universal language grounded in the natural world of creation. Speak, act and create from the well of the Presence where your connection with essential divinity is authentically emerging, spontaneously appropriate to circumstances and the environment.
....
You will be the spirit of love and brotherhood moving in
the world預n embodiment of the principles that you have sought to learn and teach.
The group initiate that will reveal the next phase of the teachings (2025) will themselves be a demonstration of monadic brotherhood in expression. A living teaching. When galaxies come together the central cores fuse because they are essentially one."

hf
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OP, I'm more interested in this question:

Thread: What if 3753 Cruithne is a Gemini ruler?


What if 3753 Cruithne is a Gemini ruler?
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Scriptures speak of the man in the upper room with a water pitcher which is symbolic of pouring out of God's spirit on all flesh as spoken of in Acts 2:17 which is also a picture of the age of Aquarius as the age of Pisces (the 2 fish) closes.
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Thank you for this info! hf
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I hate to break it to you guys but the astrological foundation your are following is off by 22 degrees. The sidereal zodiac is the original zodiac, it does not change over time. Check it out in comparison the the astronomical zodiac, and then match your ignorant tropical zodiac to it and see how far off from the actual placements your planets are in comparison. In Kaliyuga everything is backwards, and so is your astrology.Idol1yoda
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I hate to break it to you guys but the astrological foundation your are following is off by 22 degrees. The sidereal zodiac is the original zodiac, it does not change over time. Check it out in comparison the the astronomical zodiac, and then match your ignorant tropical zodiac to it and see how far off from the actual placements your planets are in comparison. In Kaliyuga everything is backwards, and so is your astrology.Idol1yoda
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I hate to break it to you guys but the astrological foundation your are following is off by 22 degrees. The sidereal zodiac is the original zodiac, it does not change over time. Check it out in comparison the the astronomical zodiac, and then match your ignorant tropical zodiac to it and see how far off from the actual placements your planets are in comparison. In Kaliyuga everything is backwards, and so is your astrology.Idol1yoda
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I hate to break it to you guys but the astrological foundation your are following is off by 22 degrees. The sidereal zodiac is the original zodiac, it does not change over time. Check it out in comparison the the astronomical zodiac, and then match your ignorant tropical zodiac to it and see how far off from the actual placements your planets are in comparison. In Kaliyuga everything is backwards, and so is your astrology.Idol1yoda
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I hate to break it to you guys but the astrological foundation your are following is off by 22 degrees. The sidereal zodiac is the original zodiac, it does not change over time. Check it out in comparison the the astronomical zodiac, and then match your ignorant tropical zodiac to it and see how far off from the actual placements your planets are in comparison. In Kaliyuga everything is backwards, and so is your astrology.Idol1yoda
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Re: Astrological theoretical discussion - the change of the ages
I hate to break it to you guys but the astrological foundation your are following is off by 22 degrees. The sidereal zodiac is the original zodiac, it does not change over time. Check it out in comparison the the astronomical zodiac, and then match your ignorant tropical zodiac to it and see how far off from the actual placements your planets are in comparison. In Kaliyuga everything is backwards, and so is your astrology.Idol1yoda
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it would be best if you would not act as a spammer friend.
the discussion is not based on tropical zodiac. in fact the info for lunar planner concerning the galactic cross is based upon sidereal zodiac
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Re: Astrological theoretical discussion - the change of the ages
Didnt meant o spam, the GLP interface wasnt working and I clicked post a few times. In any case, glad to hear are intelligent enough to recognize the Sidereal Zodiac as the Original Zodiac. Quick history, the tropical zodiac was brought about by Western astrologers, whom at the time didnt know about the Precession of the Equinox. Since then their zodiac which is fixed, has gone off by 1 degree every 72 years. Now that amounts to 22 degrees, which means you are no longer a Leo if you are born in July. Simply put. But ignorance prevails still, and it drives me nust when people say, IM A PISCES! IM A LEO! Cause they dont have a clue what they are talking about. In fact, the ancients looked at your Moon sign as being more important for identification purposes, since it was traditionally what ruled the Mind, which makes sense since it is gravitationally affecting water and fluids of all sorts. Anyways, just my ten cents. Enjoy
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Re: Astrological theoretical discussion - the change of the ages
Didnt meant o spam, the GLP interface wasnt working and I clicked post a few times. In any case, glad to hear are intelligent enough to recognize the Sidereal Zodiac as the Original Zodiac. Quick history, the tropical zodiac was brought about by Western astrologers, whom at the time didnt know about the Precession of the Equinox. Since then their zodiac which is fixed, has gone off by 1 degree every 72 years. Now that amounts to 22 degrees, which means you are no longer a Leo if you are born in July. Simply put. But ignorance prevails still, and it drives me nust when people say, IM A PISCES! IM A LEO! Cause they dont have a clue what they are talking about. In fact, the ancients looked at your Moon sign as being more important for identification purposes, since it was traditionally what ruled the Mind, which makes sense since it is gravitationally affecting water and fluids of all sorts. Anyways, just my ten cents. Enjoy
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current exoteric understanding of astrology is based on an illusory movement of the stars indeed. The tropical deviation is just the most evident hint pointing at this fact.

but then again, you have to be aware that constellations themselves do not occupy equal shares (30 degrees) of the wheel. In fact each of the 12 is formed by at least 3 significant constellations.

but original astrology was not based in scientific empirical observation (as we understand it today), but on spiritual perception by seers of the old. That is why vedic astrology comes in the form of sutras, not of scientific calculations.

constellations are living spiritual entities and their influence upon our planet and upon us is not based upon physical material influence, but upon influence on subtle planes of existence (i.e. buddhic plane)

nevertheless in current practice, one's reflection of self through an external reference point (be it astrology, tarot, i ching etc) works insofar it is a way to unlock the intuition of the subject, as opposed to his rational processing.

so from this perspective current systems, whether tropical or sidereal, are more or less illusory, if one takes them as objective truths about one's self

cheers
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Re: Astrological theoretical discussion - the change of the ages
Interesting thread as it touches on the topic of scaled up patterns...hf

Will be reading along...

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