Astrological theoretical discussion - the change of the ages

That's interesting I had a strange experience where I was told telepathically that planets and stars that we see are three d manifestations of consciousness groups

It's like e8 theory .... consciousness comes together as a result of vibrations and forms the elements

That's how I understood it anyway

Each consciousness group is given aspects that "dominate" or "rule" or have influence over the material world for a certain period of time.

Many of us are from these consciousness groups and are thrown together in one place to try to get along and then we separate again. It's like the universe is trying out different combinations or aspects to see what combinations work and which don't and to try to resolve those that don't . It's like he universe is doing this while it "breathes" in and out.

Didnt meant o spam, the GLP interface wasnt working and I clicked post a few times. In any case, glad to hear are intelligent enough to recognize the Sidereal Zodiac as the Original Zodiac. Quick history, the tropical zodiac was brought about by Western astrologers, whom at the time didnt know about the Precession of the Equinox. Since then their zodiac which is fixed, has gone off by 1 degree every 72 years. Now that amounts to 22 degrees, which means you are no longer a Leo if you are born in July. Simply put. But ignorance prevails still, and it drives me nust when people say, IM A PISCES! IM A LEO! Cause they dont have a clue what they are talking about. In fact, the ancients looked at your Moon sign as being more important for identification purposes, since it was traditionally what ruled the Mind, which makes sense since it is gravitationally affecting water and fluids of all sorts. Anyways, just my ten cents. Enjoy

That's interesting I had a strange experience where I was told telepathically that planets and stars that we see are three d manifestations of consciousness groups

It's like e8 theory .... consciousness comes together as a result of vibrations and forms the elements

That's how I understood it anyway

Each consciousness group is given aspects that "dominate" or "rule" or have influence over the material world for a certain period of time.

Many of us are from these consciousness groups and are thrown together in one place to try to get along and then we separate again. It's like the universe is trying out different combinations or aspects to see what combinations work and which don't and to try to resolve those that don't . It's like he universe is doing this while it "breathes" in and out.

Since the tropical system is a Solar-based system (season based), many feel this system works well for describing the personality and psychological patterns. Many consider the The Vedic (sidereal) system better at describing the soul nature and is more linked to actual events (as it's tied to the actual fixed constellations) Both systems have worth to the astrologer. The position of the planets and their relationship to one another (aspects) is not dependent on either system.

Kismet

+1

it's all about perspective and different layers inside one self (personality/soul/spirit) and outside one self (tropical geocentric / sidereal heliocentric / galactic)

it really is an enjoyable thread. and thx for you being a catalyst for starting it

Nicely said :)

Take it a step further.....
We are all fractals of the greater whole. Within our consciousness lives pieces of all consciousness (including the universe, solar system, etc) so it is "us" that is doing this while we breathe in and out :)

Kismet

Andreidita.... it is I that must thank you :) I know you invited me here for a theoretical discussion of astrology, BUT, since that thread when I 'met' you, I have since been reading a number of your posts in other threads, and in doing so, I've found clarity on something that your perspective helped bring about.

I may have been the catalyst for starting this thread, and astrology may have been the catalyst for me coming here, but, there was a definite reason for both to occur :)

Thank you!!
Kismet

you know, Kismet...
this is what i really love about Mind...
the capacity to join in a process of detached co-operative effort of furthering understanding based on mutual acceptance for one's thoughts and others thoughts as having equal validity.

and if this is not a trademark of aquarian energy...
as oposed to the emotional bias of one's beliefs in a spirit of contradiction with other's seemingly different beliefs, that was the trademark of the piscean energy...

Indeed!!!

I have an Aquarian Moon (LOL, guess I'm gonna drive that earlier poster nuts!! LOL) Thru this journey I have learned (actually, remembered) that ALL is valid - and once we remove judgement, we can feel this truth much deeper. Even when I come across ideas that I don't prefer, I still value that perspective as valid, and an opportunity for me to learn more and more about consciousness :)

Kismes

Dear OP

The Vedic system takes into account even further divisions of signs into constellations, called the 27 Lunar mansions or Nakshatras. And the knowledge was cognized by Seers which began with Parashara and led to many great texts by other Seers detailing the effects of the influences not in sutras but in different contexts relating to the system which was derived from direct perception. A more elaborate astrology naturally came into play, but it stems from direct cognition, not just some threads of Sutras as you described.

Western astrology HAS been described in terms of better addressing the Soul since it is mostly based off the Sun. But that is a typical Western astrologers excuse for not catching up with Reality, and the fault through which the entire system which is so greatly accepted is clearly demonstrated by the lack of consistency with the actual placements of the planets in relevance to the persons experience.

Its very easy to go spiritual airy fairy on things, everyting is connected blah blah. But to actually know WHY things work, is where science will one day open up to the more poswerful underlying laws of reality. And under this context, it DOES matter what system you are using, and where it comes from. Otherwise we are all lost to our whimsicle abilities to comprehend with no real substance. Just sayin..

based on this line of thought, here

[link to www.esotericastrologer.org]

the date 2117 is identified as the full start of the Aquarian Age.

This has to do also with the special connection which exists between Venus and Aquarius according to esoteric astrology, and in turn with the Venus Transits:

"1st passage: 1631 & 1639
2nd passage: 1761 & 1769
3rd passage: 1874 & 1882
4th passage: 2004 & 2012
5th passage: 2117 & 2125 (thus covering a transitional period of 494 years)

These are the five focal passages for the transitional period from Pisces to Aquarius. "

so according to this line of thought we just entered the last venusian passage of the transition between Pisces and Aquarius

[link to laron-transients.blogspot.com]

More on the Pluto entering Capricorn discussion..

From the discussion on the Pluto in Capricorn discussion, the matter of Patricide , or the killing of one’s Father . Is that where we are going?

Is this new Generation X going to kill off [ in a manner of speaking] and destroy the greedy self centered Baby Boom Generation. The generation that keeps electing these old farts to public office even though they have proven time and time again that they only serve their own personal interest, or the interest of those from whom they can profit most from. This the Generation that raped the planet, destroyed self dependence, imbuing the masses with the need for dependence on anyone but self.. That destroyed the family, the church, beliefs, again anything sacred personal or private.

For a millennia the Father was revered, was the person that set the example for the youth to follow, to revere to look up to. It is with this knowledge that with heavy heart we must look ourselves squarely in the eye, see the error of our ways, and resolve to either fix that which is broken or to get the H E L L out of the way and let the new generation get a foot hold into this mess or we W I L L suffer the horrible consequence I fear..

Quote:

A new accountable corporate culture.

While during the Sagittarian period, genocide involving the mass killing by those of those of one culture by those of another featured in Bosnia. Fatherhood and patricide will become an important issue to feature in some way.

So we are moving from theory to practice, from philosophy to skepticism, from benign idealism to honest self-interest and from excess to economy. In this world the slow tortoise will surpass the haphazard hare.

www.astrology.co.uk


What say you???

Then with all due respect OP, it appears your intuition is about as bad as your understandings about the Real science. How can anyone talk about something they cant even experience? Its not a good place to begin, but I do appreciate the chance to Enlighten you on the topic. Notice the Moon transits, especially when it enters Taurus and Cancer according to the Sidereal that is. Since you Moon governs the mind, notice a certain element of comfort and peace, in Taurus Moon is considered Exalted. Notice when it transits Jupiter, or Mars, if you follow the sidereal zodiac you will actually have many opportunities to Directly experience the Planets. Afterall that is what you seem to be missing, direct experience :)

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