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What 2012 is REALLY about

 
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So, after reading through all the bullshit on the internet, it actually only took ONE book to make it all come together.

I forget the name of the book, but it was a book on astronomy (NOT astrology) , and was written sometime in the 1910s-1920s. It was available online for free.


Basically , the book started out explaining the basic tenets of principles of astronomy. One thing the book got into was the different "movements" of the Earth. I wasn't aware there were so many movements.

I believe the book said there were 3 or 4 at least, up to 5. For instance, the Earth revolves in a circular, orbital fashion around the Sun. That is ONE movement. However, due to the earth's wobble, there is also another movement that our Earth completes, besides the revolution around the Sun. THIS is the movement that 2012 is based on.


Basically, this is where the 12 zodiacs of astronomy come from. Because of the Earth's wobble, this movement has a 26,000ish completion cycle. There are 12 different zodiacs that our Equator or whatever lines up with, and it changes every 2,500yearsish. Sorry , I know my numbers aren't exact, and I know I'm not explaining this too well, but you get the gist.


The crazy thing is, here is a book from about 100 years ago, written very simply, and it makes MORE SENSE than ANYTHING I've ever read about 2012, and the zodiacs.

So, there is a 26,000 movement , based on the earth's wobble. 2012 is the completion of one full movement.



Now, this is where my OWN speculation becomes involved.

The native americans, the tibetans, and many other ancient cultures around the world have an oral history that , according to them, has been through at least 1-2 FULL 26,000 cycles. In other words, their people have been around for atleast 26,000x2years = 52,000years.

According to Anthropology, homo sapien sapiens are up to 200,000 years old. So the fact that certain cultures existing today might have oral history dating back to over 50,000 years isn't implausible.


What ALL these ancient cultures say, is that Mankind is DIRECTLY affected by this "movement" of 26,000 years. Apparently, just as ASTROLOGY attempts to explain....celestial bodies have an influence on the human psyche. This is not hard to understand by any measure.


The ancient cultures all pretty much say the same thing, with differnet wordings, and different cultural perspectives. I believe they all agree that the last Movement ended with a great Flood. This is why there is the story of a great flood ALL OVER THE GLOBE.

The Hopi believe Humankind , on this planet, has been through 4 complete movement cycles already. That makes sense, that would make us around 100,000 years old according to them. Anthropology suggests , as I mentioned above, we could be TWICe as old as that, as a specie.



So, we've discussed the astronomical aspect. We've discussed the ASTROLOGICAL aspect. Now my intuitive aspect.


Now, as anyone who understands intuition, whether you believe it or not, whether you trust YOURS or not, it is known that intuition isn't usually validated scientifically, nor is it backed up always with facts, etc. It is based on personal experience, personal wisdom, personal revelation, and is basically a subjective understanding of something.


I personally believe, just as the Hindus believe, that Mankind goes through several periods of advancement. I believe each cycle mankind goes through , is an opportunity to learn many smaller lessons, and some Grand lessons. I also believe each complete cycle allows soul groups to incarnate on this planet with each other, and basically share the same dream, the same illusion, the same "reality".

I believe that after the completion of one these great movements, All karma in both the physical plane, and the dimension directly "above" ours, the lesser spiritual, or 4th dimension, or astral plane, the karma is cleared there too.

basically, it is a FRESH start. That is why in the Bible, in revelations, It mentions the rapture, and people going to hell or heaven. I believe essentially it is saying that at this Harvest period, souls have to go SOMEWHERE. There is , a "movement" in all sense of the word.


I believe a full cycle of 26,000 years is a chance for a soul, and soul groups, to incarnate together, create their own realities, manufacture karma, and then clear their karma.

The first 12,000ish years would be the Creation part of the cycle. This would be where everything is establishing itself. The dreamspell, or the "agreements which we all live by", are defined in this period. The next 12,000 years, what we are in, is the residual reality, the leftover karma, the play out of karma , the creation we manifested woring itself out.


We are currently in 2012, the VERY, VERy, VERY, VERY end and beginning of a 26,000 year cycle. Regardless of what I or anyone else believes is happening, it is an actual, astronomical event. Whether you believe this has any relevance to your life, is up to you.


I will tell you this. Many of us who "believe" in 2012, aren't "believing" in it, we are actually living it. People like me can't turn their backs on it, we can't live normal lives. We are starting to wake up, to remember our past lives/past incarnations. We are learning how to access our multidimensional aspects. We are waking up. We are becoming more conscious. We can actually FEEL karma working itself out. We are starting to remember the whole history of humanity, and our ancient selves.

In the bible, it says that this is the time of revealing, where all things will be know. Could this EVER be more true? Never in the history of humanity has information been able to travel so fast, instantly from country to country. Old texts have been found, everything is being redefined.



Considering this is a 26,000 year astronomical movement, I don't think December 21st, 2012 is going to be a SINGLE, exponential shift. I believe the shift has already been occuring since Jesus was here, around 2,000 years ago, and everything that humans know on this ball of dirt will be drastically changing for AT LEAST the next few hundred years.

I do, however, this our lifetime, and our children's generation will see some of the most drastic shifts, from the Old world, to the New.


Lots of people on here mention Illuminati, and want to learn the secrets of those who control our planet. One thing I've learned, is EVERYTHING happened for a reason. Mankind is one big open-source project, and we are all a part of it. There were BOUND to be secret societies, and blood lines which monopolized the power on this planet. That was part of our lessons in Power, and part of us learning and growing as physical , conscious , earth visiting beings.




Anyway, everything I just typed here, has basically come instantly, tonight, and I was led to create this thread, just as I was led to create my first thread on GLP months ago, about my past Occult Incarnation on Atlantis.

When I posted about my incarnation on Atlantis, I was calling out to my people on here, on GLP. I was calling out to the souls, trapped in this Matrix, who share the same feeling coursing through their veins as I do.

I know this thread will not fall on deaf ears. Let those who have the ears to hear, indeed hear.

Some will ignore this thread, others will insult, and for many people, it just won't resonate. For those of you who have this message running through your VEINS, I'd LOVE To hear from you. Thanks

-SuperMarket
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[link to cosmicawareness.org]
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Thank you for the link!


I bookmarked it, and when I get some free time (when my son falls asleep, perhaps, hehe) I will definitely read it.


I want to say sorry for the spelling errors in my thread, and for the quality of writing in general, I have a lot on my mind, and I'm watching my son right now. My mind has been very cluttered the past few months as well, which is definitely reflected in my writings, unfortunately.


Also, we are so far into the completion of this Cycle, that our souls are actually HUNGRY for new material. Our souls are HUNGRY for information, and wisdom, and understanding about human history, creation, where we come from, where we are going, who and what we are....and to understand what is happening environmentally, politically, socioeconomically, and fundamentally on all levels of this Open Source Human project.

I want to remind everything though, since we already in 2012, that most of the information you find online just won't satisfy you. We are the point where EVERYONE who is becoming more conscious should take 15 minutes atleast out of every day, preferrably at the same time, and twice a day if possible....to meditate, pray, practice yoga, or basically to GO INSIDE. This will allow you to connect with the energies pouring in, and THAT is how you will receive information now. Info that you find from OUTSIDE of you just won't do anymore.

IT is time for EVERYONE to find their Inner Space, and to spend some time EVERYDAY cultivating it.
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I close on my new home on 12/31/2012 and ive already paid a substantial down payment, we'd better not flood or i'll kick your ass!
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The Sun is super super bright!

Pray to the Sun to bring the Planet A experience for most!
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I close on my new home on 12/31/2012 and ive already paid a substantial down payment, we'd better not flood or i'll kick your ass!
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My personal opinion is that we are ALREADY experiencing the transition from the current "movement" cycle, to the new one.

I don't think anything more drastic than what is already happening, will happen on December 21st. However, keep in mind that THINGS ARE DRASTICALLY CHANGING. They have been for YEARS now.

Go do some research guys. GO to the USGS site, and look at the number of tornadoes we've had this year. They have been increasing almost steadily every year since around 2003ish. Def. higher than normal.

Look at the conflict in the middle east escalating.

Look at the solar flares , we are in a maximum, and you can see some videos from NASA with very erratic movement on the Sun, tornadoes, and such.

Look at how the United States, once recently the most power nation on the face on this planet, is now suffering from weak economy, and the people are divided on so many issues.

Look how since 2007, the WORLD economy nearly melted, and although our officials all over the globe keep re-assuring us its getting better, it hasn't gotten much better.

Look at the technological advancements we've been having in the past 50 years alone. Technology is exponentially expanding and developing.

Look at the population of people on this planet, 7 billion!


Look at the increase of natural disasters.

The BP oil spill.

The Nuclear meltdowns in Japan.

The TWO world wars we've had in less than 100 years in our past. They are only SECONDS from now if you look at them from the history of humanity.


Look at the United Nations, and how far the elites have come to completing their NWO.


Look at the agendas being pushed, and you can see how SWIFTLY the elites are moving NOW, more than EVER before in history. What do they know!? Why now!?


Look at the advent of the internet. That alone is one of the greatest and most altering technological advancements of human history.


Look at ALL the major religions of the world. If you study their prophecies, they ALL point to a time that our current time EASILY fits into. THE TIME IS NOW!




All you have to do is literally OPEN YOUR EYES, and be honest with yourself. People say, "Oh, I don't believe anything will happen on Dec21st, 2012"

How can ANYONE say that? Nothing more drastic needs to happen than what is ALREADY happening. Everything already IS drastic, it just depends on if you are willing to open your perspective to the world, instead of just closing your eyes and only seeing what is RIGHT in front of you. Sure, maybe your FAMILY and your DOG aren't changing DRASTICALLY, but this WORLD and humanity as a whole certainly ARE!
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Good stuff OP, it speaks to me.Thanks.
"When tyrants tremble in their fear, and hear their death knell ringing,
When friends rejoice both far and near, how can I keep from singing"

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Honestly, you really are clueless...
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bump

Probably worth pinning too.

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Honestly, you really are clueless...
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What is the most humorous?

Clearly the fact that precession takes place is not at issue. What is at issue (and humorous) is the following:

Precession is an ongoing phenomenon. Much like a wobbly wheel turning is space. THERE IS NO BEGINNING. Now, you can make up a beginning time, but it is as meaningless as the arbitrary initial point in time that I would make. Or the Mayans, or anyone.

It is completely arbitrary as to what "time/date zero" is given.
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Honestly, you really are clueless...
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What is the most humorous?

Clearly the fact that precession takes place is not at issue. What is at issue (and humorous) is the following:

Precession is an ongoing phenomenon. Much like a wobbly wheel turning is space. THERE IS NO BEGINNING. Now, you can make up a beginning time, but it is as meaningless as the arbitrary initial point in time that I would make. Or the Mayans, or anyone.

It is completely arbitrary as to what "time/date zero" is given.
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I disagree entirely.


Say you are in the woods, and you decide to walk in a circle. Even if you are unsure where you started, you can use a compass to find magnetic north, and just use magnetic north as the completion point, and just start counting from there, everytime you pass it.


So yes, although the Mayan calender, and the astronomical procession of the equinoxes don't assume to know what position the earth was in (the wobble was in) when everything started (The planet started), you CAN have certain reference points, and use THESE reference points to calculate how many cycles you'ev been there, and how far in a cycle you are in.



[link to en.wikipedia.org]


For more information on the precession of the equinoxes.
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Honestly, you really are clueless...
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I wouldn't doubt it. Thankfully, I'm not trying to claim to be this or that. Throughout my life, I've acquired relative wisdom, understanding, perspective, worldview, and I live a very happy and rich life. How "clueful" am I, compared to the next man? Probably no more, no less.

All humans have beliefs, opinions, theories, etc etc. We all have our own worldview. We all take our own stance to the universe, which is energetically takes back.

Do you really think you somehow possess more truth than me? Why would this be so? Don't we all possess both truth and illusion, according to our own progression in this life?


A wise man once told me that true wisdom begins when we realize how little we know. I don't think I've EVER heard anything MORE true than that.


There are 3 ways in which man gains information,which then progresses to understanding, or wisdom. 1) First hand, direct experience. 2) Second hand testimony, 3) Intuition. Of all 3, not even direct experience can be said to be 100% reliable.

Therefore, none of have have complete truth. So long as we are human, we are fallible, and subject to make mistakes.



What Im trying to say is, every man Knows and Understands according to his own development.


To think that somehow anyone of us is better than the next man, or wiser, etc etc, to me is foolishness of a high degree!
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Honestly, you really are clueless...
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What is the most humorous?

Clearly the fact that precession takes place is not at issue. What is at issue (and humorous) is the following:

Precession is an ongoing phenomenon. Much like a wobbly wheel turning is space. THERE IS NO BEGINNING. Now, you can make up a beginning time, but it is as meaningless as the arbitrary initial point in time that I would make. Or the Mayans, or anyone.

It is completely arbitrary as to what "time/date zero" is given.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1326993




Furthermore, your logic is sound, but one thing you are failing to understand is that HUMANS, or some other INTELLIGENCE is the one capable of ASSIGNING a beginning position.

Why did they assign it at a certain zodiac? I'm not entirely sure. Why are in the year 2012 on the gregorian calender? What possessed man to start at 1AD when he did. Regardless, each year is still a year.

Whether we call this year 512, or 2012, or 1AD, it is still the same in relation to the stars.
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The 26,000 years cycle is common knowledge.
Currently the Sun entering close to the Galactic Center (28 degrees Sag)on the winter solstice, the 21st.
PLUS there is a band or ribbon of electromagnetic energy entering out solar system from a star that blew up (forgot the name). Its supposed to energize our Sun so that it grows in greater size and finally dies.
Yes, I agree that this the last 26,000 cycle.

The world being destoyed each cycle by each of the elements makes sense.

The world destroyed by water.
The world destroyed by air or gaseous vapor.
The world destroyed by dirt or volcanic debris.

The NEXT time the world will be destroyed by FIRE.

Don't ask for link because I don't even remember where I read that or heard it.

A new heaven and a new new earth is the future.

Thats what I think.
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Speaks to me, too. I've been feeling different for a while now. Things seem to be speeding up AND slowing down simultaneously. What I call "small time," those five-, ten-, fifteen-minute periods when you are doing "small things," seems to expand into longer seconds and longer minutes, while the days seem to zip along.
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To sum up the OP's complete theory :


PRECESSION

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bump to read later.
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Apparently, just as ASTROLOGY attempts to explain....celestial bodies have an influence on the human psyche.
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This is the key.
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I appreciate you sharing OP. hf
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You're welcome guys :)
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nice thread sir!

from your brother
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I saw two pinned threads just now about December 21st, 2012. So I know the curiosity is there :)
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The final shift is just this: to attain the fullness of one’s being as a complete child of God, as a full manifestation of the journey ... which is likened unto that in nature. For all things bring forth the fruit, the seed after their own kind. And at this point they are at their fullest, before the seed is given.
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I saw two pinned threads just now about December 21st, 2012. So I know the curiosity is there :)
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They say it is one of the top search entries in the net.
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I saw two pinned threads just now about December 21st, 2012. So I know the curiosity is there :)
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They say it is one of the top search entries in the net.
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after bieber?
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You're welcome guys :)
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So how about to take another spin? :)

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