Secession - Distraction or Trap? | |
| -Makaveli (OP) User ID: 24723887 11/24/2012 09:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
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| Smash_The_ZOG User ID: 10010905 11/24/2012 09:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sadly true. Inasmuch as most advocates of secession won't criticize the ZOG in any way, they're either too ignorant to even attempt so difficult an endeavor or controlledOp. Individual/small group survival plans will likely be much more effective once the system begins to collapse under its own weight. |
| WAKEUPAMERICA01 User ID: 28143246 11/24/2012 09:15 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the only trap would be petitioning the federal gov. and giving them a list of all would be, could be dissenters. However secession is a part of this great country that most seem to not know or acknowledge. How do you think we became the United States. If these folks truly wanted secession they should be petitioning their respective state reps. and local govs. If you plan on seceding you need not the permission of the gubmint all you need to do is read the first paragraph of the Decleration of Independence. Self explanatory and the fact that we have changed to a democratic corpautcricy effectively mob rule. Rome is burning. WAKE UP AMERICA. WAKE UP AMERICA "I love the man that can smile in trouble, that can gather strength from distress, and grow brave by reflection. 'Tis the business of little minds to shrink; but he whose heart is firm, and whose conscience approves his conduct, will pursue his principles unto death." Thomas Paine, The American Crisis, No. 1, December 19, 1776 "Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom, must, like men, undergo the fatigues of supporting it." Thomas Paine, The American Crisis, No. 4, September 11, 1777 "I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Already they have raised up a monied aristocracy that has set the government at defiance. The issuing power (of money) should be taken away from the banks and restored to the people to whom it properly belongs." -- Thomas Jefferson, U.S. President. "A majority of the people of the United States have lived all of their lives under emergency rule. For 40 years, [79 years now in 2012] freedoms and governmental procedures guaranteed by the Constitution have in varying degrees been abridged by laws brought into force by statutes of national emergency." |
| -Makaveli (OP) User ID: 24723887 11/24/2012 09:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sadly true. Inasmuch as most advocates of secession won't criticize the ZOG in any way, they're either too ignorant to even attempt so difficult an endeavor or controlledOp. Individual/small group survival plans will likely be much more effective once the system begins to collapse under its own weight. Quoting: Smash_The_ZOG 10010905 The petitions were pointless because the president does not have jurisdiction to rule on the petitions in the first place. -Makaveli |
| -Makaveli (OP) User ID: 24723887 11/24/2012 09:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the only trap would be petitioning the federal gov. and giving them a list of all would be, could be dissenters. However secession is a part of this great country that most seem to not know or acknowledge. How do you think we became the United States. If these folks truly wanted secession they should be petitioning their respective state reps. and local govs. If you plan on seceding you need not the permission of the gubmint all you need to do is read the first paragraph of the Decleration of Independence. Self explanatory and the fact that we have changed to a democratic corpautcricy effectively mob rule. Rome is burning. WAKE UP AMERICA. Quoting: WAKEUPAMERICA01 Yep all those signatures are now on the kill list -Makaveli |
| WAKEUPAMERICA01 User ID: 28143246 11/24/2012 09:20 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I dont know about that but definitly signed up for re-education. WAKE UP AMERICA "I love the man that can smile in trouble, that can gather strength from distress, and grow brave by reflection. 'Tis the business of little minds to shrink; but he whose heart is firm, and whose conscience approves his conduct, will pursue his principles unto death." Thomas Paine, The American Crisis, No. 1, December 19, 1776 "Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom, must, like men, undergo the fatigues of supporting it." Thomas Paine, The American Crisis, No. 4, September 11, 1777 "I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Already they have raised up a monied aristocracy that has set the government at defiance. The issuing power (of money) should be taken away from the banks and restored to the people to whom it properly belongs." -- Thomas Jefferson, U.S. President. "A majority of the people of the United States have lived all of their lives under emergency rule. For 40 years, [79 years now in 2012] freedoms and governmental procedures guaranteed by the Constitution have in varying degrees been abridged by laws brought into force by statutes of national emergency." |
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| Ohwell User ID: 18725998 11/24/2012 09:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Ordo Ab Chao". The modus operandi of the illuminati. That says it all. As long as you keep an identity to yourself which you didn't create nor did it create you, you will fall into the grips of the illuminati. They will break down structures and re-create them and the masses running here and there will know no better.Just focus on your development as an individual and dont pay too much attention on the noise made by the illuminati. You didnt create the state of Texas nor did it create you for you to identify with it or any other societal grouping. That being said the real issue is our individual responses to these events. You are your own authority and you/we need to rise to that challenge of living in such a way that we dont need any authority to tell us what to think or do. Last Edited by Ohwell on 11/24/2012 09:45 AM |
| -Makaveli (OP) User ID: 24723887 11/24/2012 09:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Ordo Ab Chao". Quoting: Ohwell The modus operandi of the illuminati. That says it all. As long as you keep an identity to yourself which you didn't create nor did it create you, you will fall into the grips of the illuminati. They will break down structures and re-create them and the masses running here and there will know no better.Just focus on your development as an individual and dont pay too much attention on the noise made by the illuminati. You didnt create the state of Texas nor did it create you for you to identify with it or any other societal grouping. That being said the real issue is our individual responses to these events. You are your own authority and you/we need to rise to that challenge of living in such a way that we dont need any authority to tell us what to think or do. its "ordo a chaos" and "Ordo Ab Chao" is incorrect -Makaveli |
| Ohwell User ID: 18725998 11/24/2012 09:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Ordo Ab Chao". Quoting: Ohwell The modus operandi of the illuminati. That says it all. As long as you keep an identity to yourself which you didn't create nor did it create you, you will fall into the grips of the illuminati. They will break down structures and re-create them and the masses running here and there will know no better.Just focus on your development as an individual and dont pay too much attention on the noise made by the illuminati. You didnt create the state of Texas nor did it create you for you to identify with it or any other societal grouping. That being said the real issue is our individual responses to these events. You are your own authority and you/we need to rise to that challenge of living in such a way that we dont need any authority to tell us what to think or do. its "ordo a chaos" and "Ordo Ab Chao" is incorrect [link to 1.bp.blogspot.com] Nuff Said... |
| -Makaveli (OP) User ID: 24723887 11/24/2012 09:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Ordo Ab Chao". Quoting: Ohwell The modus operandi of the illuminati. That says it all. As long as you keep an identity to yourself which you didn't create nor did it create you, you will fall into the grips of the illuminati. They will break down structures and re-create them and the masses running here and there will know no better.Just focus on your development as an individual and dont pay too much attention on the noise made by the illuminati. You didnt create the state of Texas nor did it create you for you to identify with it or any other societal grouping. That being said the real issue is our individual responses to these events. You are your own authority and you/we need to rise to that challenge of living in such a way that we dont need any authority to tell us what to think or do. its "ordo a chaos" and "Ordo Ab Chao" is incorrect [link to 1.bp.blogspot.com] Nuff Said... thats the name of an album and it is not correct -Makaveli |
| Ohwell User ID: 18725998 11/24/2012 10:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 1395 Ancient Craft Masonry Ordo ab Chao Order out of Chaos [link to freemasonry.bcy.ca] A Latin expression, meaning Order out of Chaos. A motto of the Thirty-third Degree, and having the same allusion as lug e tenebris, which see in this work. [link to masonicdictionary.com] Last Edited by Ohwell on 11/24/2012 10:12 AM |
| -Makaveli (OP) User ID: 24723887 11/24/2012 10:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: Ohwell thats the name of an album and it is not correct 1395 Ancient Craft Masonry Ordo ab Chao Order out of Chaos [link to freemasonry.bcy.ca] [link to en.wikipedia.org] -Makaveli |
| Ohwell User ID: 18725998 11/24/2012 10:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 1395 Ancient Craft Masonry Ordo ab Chao Order out of Chaos [link to freemasonry.bcy.ca] [link to en.wikipedia.org] 1395 - Ancient Craft Masonry - Ordo ab Chao - Order out of Chaos [link to freemasonry.bcy.ca] A Latin expression, meaning Order out of Chaos. A motto of the Thirty-third Degree, and having the same allusion as lug e tenebris, which see in this work. [link to masonicdictionary.com] |
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| AlcoholicRunner I run and drink at the same time. User ID: 23182389 11/24/2012 10:32 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the only trap would be petitioning the federal gov. and giving them a list of all would be, could be dissenters. However secession is a part of this great country that most seem to not know or acknowledge. How do you think we became the United States. If these folks truly wanted secession they should be petitioning their respective state reps. and local govs. If you plan on seceding you need not the permission of the gubmint all you need to do is read the first paragraph of the Decleration of Independence. Self explanatory and the fact that we have changed to a democratic corpautcricy effectively mob rule. Rome is burning. WAKE UP AMERICA. Quoting: WAKEUPAMERICA01 Yep all those signatures are now on the kill list Yep. Communist Bill Ayers are frothing over this long dream of killing 25,000,000 Americans to make communism work in USA... |
| -Makaveli (OP) User ID: 24723887 11/24/2012 10:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the only trap would be petitioning the federal gov. and giving them a list of all would be, could be dissenters. However secession is a part of this great country that most seem to not know or acknowledge. How do you think we became the United States. If these folks truly wanted secession they should be petitioning their respective state reps. and local govs. If you plan on seceding you need not the permission of the gubmint all you need to do is read the first paragraph of the Decleration of Independence. Self explanatory and the fact that we have changed to a democratic corpautcricy effectively mob rule. Rome is burning. WAKE UP AMERICA. Quoting: WAKEUPAMERICA01 Yep all those signatures are now on the kill list Yep. Communist Bill Ayers are frothing over this long dream of killing 25,000,000 Americans to make communism work in USA... Some people think thats what they want but........... -Makaveli |
| Esmee User ID: 23766853 11/24/2012 12:06 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Definitely a trap. Those who have signed will likely be the first to be rounded up in the middle of the night. Seems to me that it gives TPTB the perfect opening into their One World plan. I wonder how many of our names might be added to each of our state's petitions without our knowledge or consent. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 18622835 11/24/2012 12:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What about the people of TX who oppose secession if it were to happen? I can almost guarantee the majority (not all, though) of the African-American population in TX are Obama Zombies and would protest very loudly and publicly if this were to happen. What about them? Give them a chance to leave? Also the rest of the minorities in TX, as well. What about them? IF (again, IF) this were to happen. |
| -Makaveli (OP) User ID: 24723887 11/24/2012 12:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What about the people of TX who oppose secession if it were to happen? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18622835 I can almost guarantee the majority (not all, though) of the African-American population in TX are Obama Zombies and would protest very loudly and publicly if this were to happen. What about them? Give them a chance to leave? Also the rest of the minorities in TX, as well. What about them? IF (again, IF) this were to happen. Texas is the only state that can legally secede but it would have to be the state legislature not the president. The president has no jurisdiction over a state secession. -Makaveli |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 18622835 11/24/2012 12:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What about the people of TX who oppose secession if it were to happen? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18622835 I can almost guarantee the majority (not all, though) of the African-American population in TX are Obama Zombies and would protest very loudly and publicly if this were to happen. What about them? Give them a chance to leave? Also the rest of the minorities in TX, as well. What about them? IF (again, IF) this were to happen. Texas is the only state that can legally secede but it would have to be the state legislature not the president. The president has no jurisdiction over a state secession. I thought the law says Texas can break up into four separate states, maximum----but those would have to immediately join the union themselves---------by law. High Court and all of that. And the Constitution of Texas. And what about the African American population? That question was never answered. |
| -Makaveli (OP) User ID: 24723887 11/24/2012 12:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What about the people of TX who oppose secession if it were to happen? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18622835 I can almost guarantee the majority (not all, though) of the African-American population in TX are Obama Zombies and would protest very loudly and publicly if this were to happen. What about them? Give them a chance to leave? Also the rest of the minorities in TX, as well. What about them? IF (again, IF) this were to happen. Texas is the only state that can legally secede but it would have to be the state legislature not the president. The president has no jurisdiction over a state secession. I thought the law says Texas can break up into four separate states, maximum----but those would have to immediately join the union themselves---------by law. High Court and all of that. And the Constitution of Texas. And what about the African American population? That question was never answered. I am not sure and dont know how to even answer that question. -Makaveli |