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Anonymous Coward User ID: 23182389 United States 11/24/2012 09:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | bullshit Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25196037 claimed they are human mixed with something; I think they need to redo the project. Try Primate mixed with something. wrong again they are what we would have become had we not been manipulated a half million years ago they are the ones left behind to evolve at a natural pace. Bingo!! They are us ,or should I say WERE us. The Biblical 'God' did not create the Human upon the earth, merely, manipulated our genetic pattern creating the 'homo-sapiens' species we are today. Our evolutionary cycle has been hijacked and sped up by at least 100,000 yrs. or more ,WE, shouldn't be here yet. WE are the 'hybrids'! Genesis 6:1 over sons of gods and daughters of earth.. [link to www.lloydpye.com] Dear Mr. Pye: I agree with your conclusions [that humans are genetically engineered] and will give you a few hints, if you wish [speaking] as a “DNA Deep Throat.” First, look up the huge discontinuities between humans and the various apes for: (1) Whole mitochondrial DNA; (2) genes for the Rh Factor; (3) and human Y chromosomes, among others. Regarding #3, I refer you to K.D. Smith’s 1987 study titled “Repeated DNA sequences of the human Y chromosome.” It says “Most human Y chromosome sequences thus far examined do not have homologues [same relative position or structure] on the Y chromosomes of other primates.” Human female X chromosomes do look somewhat apelike, but not the male’s Y. This means that if humans are a crossbred species, the cross had to be between a female ape-like creature [i.e, “creature of Earth”] and a male being from elsewhere. |
sTTsTTT User ID: 20711409 United States 11/24/2012 09:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What makes this study more interesting, their hypothesis was Sasquatch as an previously unidentified North American Ape. That's' what they were trying to prove & resolve. And disprove any Homo-xyz connections. I can well imagine their consternation when results kept returning Homo-xyz and not Ape. The samples were from tissue/flesh, hair bulbs, saliva, and other body fluids (blood if memory serves correctly). Apocalypse: All shall be revealed. And all shall be revealed. ******* All Human Beings are Human. Not all Humans are Human Beings. ******* |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 10363614 Canada 11/24/2012 09:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If they do exist it would be incredibly strange to realize that they existed up until this century without being captured or a body found but there's also some unexplained aspects to their ability to have escaped detection. They may well be extraterrestrial, or have developed the ability to separate themselves from us... Will we ever capture one or will we only have small samples? |
Merlin's Mom User ID: 12643072 United States 11/24/2012 09:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | HOW DID THEY OBTAIN THE DNA IN THE FIRST PLACE, IF BIGFOOT HAS NEVER BEEN FOUND?! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28379462 Bigfoot HAS been "FOUND" repeatedly throughout history. They are an integral part of Native American legends, and First Nation people talk about ancestors who interbred with the "legends" and had viable offspring. I have, myself, had encounters with them on three occasions over the past 12 years. One sighting was from ~ 300 feet in daylight, one was ~ 20 feet at twilight, and one was up close and in my face (!), but was illuminated only by starlight. They have not been "found" to the satisfaction of the scientists and skeptics, (until now!!!???). They are social, intelligent, nocturnal, powerful masters of their environment. You can't use dogs to track them as the dogs will refuse. They also do not breed like vermin as do their more "intelligent cousins", so the population just is not that dense. David Paulides, the author of the original post, was a speaker at the Bigfoot Festival in Honobia, OK a few years ago. At that time, he alluded to this study of "Bigfoot" DNA and stated that it would be a rigorously controlled scientific study that would be published in a Peer-Reviewed Journal appropriate to the topic. I look forward to the read! |
lasombra User ID: 2920692 United States 11/24/2012 09:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thanks, OP! Nice find and amazing information! 15K years ago, huh? Instead of "hunting and capturing" one for study, maybe we should consider approaching them as a newly discovered indigenous race and try talking with them on their own terms. We might be surprised by the results. One can always hope for the best to come to the forefront I suppose... . "You can't wake a person who is pretending to be asleep." Navajo Proverb |
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JohnC User ID: 19603600 United States 11/24/2012 09:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This doesn't sound right. How could Bigfoot be a hybrid? What were humans mating with that resulted in Bigfoot? In order for a hybrid to exist the species have to have some DNA in common. Plus, why does Bigfoot resemble Gigantic Pythias, a species that lived about 400,000 years earlier? On the other hand, the most Bigfoot sightings are in the Caucaus mountians, which fits with the eastern Europe/Middle East results. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 17332425 United States 11/24/2012 10:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This doesn't sound right. How could Bigfoot be a hybrid? What were humans mating with that resulted in Bigfoot? In order for a hybrid to exist the species have to have some DNA in common. Plus, why does Bigfoot resemble Gigantic Pythias, a species that lived about 400,000 years earlier? Quoting: JohnC 19603600 On the other hand, the most Bigfoot sightings are in the Caucaus mountians, which fits with the eastern Europe/Middle East results. This |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 23182389 United States 11/24/2012 10:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This doesn't sound right. How could Bigfoot be a hybrid? What were humans mating with that resulted in Bigfoot? In order for a hybrid to exist the species have to have some DNA in common. Plus, why does Bigfoot resemble Gigantic Pythias, a species that lived about 400,000 years earlier? Quoting: JohnC 19603600 On the other hand, the most Bigfoot sightings are in the Caucaus mountians, which fits with the eastern Europe/Middle East results. This Neanderthals = Big foot? Considering that white folks have neanderthals DNA... Google Zana bigfoot... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 23182389 United States 11/24/2012 10:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | From the North American Bigfoot Search Website. Looks like Bigfoot might be some type of Human Hybrid. Kind of surprises me. I was pretty certain it would be an unknown primate with no real human connection. Quoting: Squatch Hunter Blog # 181 November 23, 2012 The DNA Project/Update It’s been many months that myself and members of our team have silently watched the progress of our Bigfoot DNA Project under the guidance of Dr. Melba Ketchum. Silence in this research arena tends to push outsiders to make rash and irresponsible comments. In the technology world, silence about projects is routine, expected and is part of the landscape. In the bigfoot world, people in the past have been boisterous with wild claims, accusations and irresponsible behavior the norm. Our group (North America Bigfoot Search) has been trying to live by a different standard, a professional standard that the rest of the world understands and appreciates. In the last twelve months you have seen a variety of groups suddenly take interest in bigfoot DNA. Where was that interest four years ago when we started our DNA Project? Dr. Jeff Meldrum has gone to Europe with his interest and utilized the resources of Oxford University in an attempt to develop a DNA sequence on Bigfoot. A weekly show about bigfoot also has just recently found an interest in bigfoot DNA and is trying to exploit this avenue, and there are others. There is not one group that has developed the scientific team and the high number of quality specimens to even come close to what North America Bigfoot Search and Dr. Ketchum’s team of esteemed scientists have accomplished. The public perception of bigfoot, sasquatch and wild men is about to change forever. It has always been our belief that there would come a time when researchers would no longer be calling them animals, apes and human type gorillas, those statements will be reserved for re-runs of your favorite screamers and tree bangers. Yes, you are reading this correctly, times are about to change. I have consistently stated that we are close to a release date. We are very, very close. Dr. Ketchum and her team of scientists and laboratories have been able to sequence three complete genomes, getting identical results independently verified by different labs. This is not a casual everyday finding, this will cause the scientific community to stand up and take notice. Many people have claimed to know what our results were, nearly everyone was wrong, even some high profile media people that have just recently made comments, all were wrong. Dr. Ketchum originally found the combination to unlock bigfoot DNA and utilized top scientists in various fields to validate her results. The results were independently verified with the group silently sitting on these findings for months, as the results were validated a third and fourth time. Remember, this isn’t one total genome sequence; it’s three with dozens and dozens of other findings validating the results. The exact number of specimens, the number of mitochondrial results and the specifics of the scientific white paper will be released very, very soon. The paper is very complex and filled with amazing findings. Before the world is enveloped in bigfoot, sasquatch mania and we lose sight of the real hero’s of this project, I need to address a few of the VERY best researchers in the world. Scott Carpenter, Richard Hucklebridge, Rob Alley and Harvey Pratt have contributed to the knowledge base of the scientists in a way never before accomplished. It was the vision and professional manner that these fine men have and the ability to overcome public ridicule and outright hostility that changed the course of the understanding of bigfoot forever. Where the majority of bigfoot researchers failed in getting specimens on multiple occasions utilizing innovative methods, these men did it. The one person that was able to unlock the safe to understanding bigfoot DNA, Dr. Melba Ketchum. Where every other scientist gave up and claimed contamination, Dr. Ketchum continued to move forward. Where every other scientist was unable to turn the corner, Dr. Ketchum did. This lady did not understand the word “defeat,” she is a true pioneer in her field! We need to express a sincere “Thank You” to the dozens of others who politely and professionally contributed to our project and the pool of specimens. We could not have done this without you!! Your patience and adherence to the Non-Disclosure Agreement shows your belief in the project and your stoic professionalism. The days ahead are going to be exciting. Happy Holidays David Paulides Director North America Bigfoot Search source - [link to www.nabigfootsearch.com] |
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Squatch Hunter (OP) User ID: 25765147 United States 11/24/2012 04:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dr. Ketchum's official Press Release: [link to networkedblogs.com] DALLAS, Nov. 24–A team of scientists can verify that their 5-year long DNA study, currently under peer-review, confirms the existence of a novel hominin hybrid species, commonly called “Bigfoot” or “Sasquatch,” living in North America. Researchers’ extensive DNA sequencing suggests that the legendary Sasquatch is a human relative that arose approximately 15,000 years ago as a hybrid cross of modern Homo sapiens with an unknown primate species. The study was conducted by a team of experts in genetics, forensics, imaging and pathology, led by Dr. Melba S. Ketchum of Nacogdoches, TX. In response to recent interest in the study, Dr. Ketchum can confirm that her team has sequenced 3 complete Sasquatch nuclear genomes and determined the species is a human hybrid: “Our study has sequenced 20 whole mitochondrial genomes and utilized next generation sequencing to obtain 3 whole nuclear genomes from purported Sasquatch samples. The genome sequencing shows that Sasquatch mtDNA is identical to modern Homo sapiens, but Sasquatch nuDNA is a novel, unknown hominin related to Homo sapiens and other primate species. Our data indicate that the North American Sasquatch is a hybrid species, the result of males of an unknown hominin species crossing with female Homo sapiens. Hominins are members of the taxonomic grouping Hominini, which includes all members of the genus Homo. Genetic testing has already ruled out Homo neanderthalis and the Denisova hominin as contributors to Sasquatch mtDNA or nuDNA. “The male progenitor that contributed the unknown sequence to this hybrid is unique as its DNA is more distantly removed from humans than other recently discovered hominins like the Denisovan individual,” explains Ketchum. “Sasquatch nuclear DNA is incredibly novel and not at all what we had expected. While it has human nuclear DNA within its genome, there are also distinctly non-human, non-archaic hominin, and non-ape sequences. We describe it as a mosaic of human and novel non-human sequence. Further study is needed and is ongoing to better characterize and understand Sasquatch nuclear DNA.” Ketchum is a veterinarian whose professional experience includes 27 years of research in genetics, including forensics. Early in her career she also practiced veterinary medicine, and she has previously been published as a participant in mapping the equine genome. She began testing the DNA of purported Sasquatch hair samples 5 years ago. Ketchum calls on public officials and law enforcement to immediately recognize the Sasquatch as an indigenous people: “Genetically, the Sasquatch are a human hybrid with unambiguously modern human maternal ancestry. Government at all levels must recognize them as an indigenous people and immediately protect their human and Constitutional rights against those who would see in their physical and cultural differences a ‘license’ to hunt, trap, or kill them.” Full details of the study will be presented in the near future when the study manuscript publishes. End of release |
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Squatch Hunter (OP) User ID: 25765147 United States 11/24/2012 04:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I believe Sasquatch should be protected but how can we afford Constitutional Rights and give Bigfoot an indigenous people classification when they aren't authentically Human? When I read these press releases the first thing that came to my mind is that Bigfoot might actually be Nephilim. I know of no other DNA mixing than what's already known and reported in the Bible. What other historic characterizations do we have of DNA mixing concerning Human Beings? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 23182389 United States 11/24/2012 05:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dr. Ketchum's official Press Release: Quoting: Squatch Hunter [link to networkedblogs.com] DALLAS, Nov. 24–A team of scientists can verify that their 5-year long DNA study, currently under peer-review, confirms the existence of a novel hominin hybrid species, commonly called “Bigfoot” or “Sasquatch,” living in North America. Researchers’ extensive DNA sequencing suggests that the legendary Sasquatch is a human relative that arose approximately 15,000 years ago as a hybrid cross of modern Homo sapiens with an unknown primate species. The study was conducted by a team of experts in genetics, forensics, imaging and pathology, led by Dr. Melba S. Ketchum of Nacogdoches, TX. In response to recent interest in the study, Dr. Ketchum can confirm that her team has sequenced 3 complete Sasquatch nuclear genomes and determined the species is a human hybrid: “Our study has sequenced 20 whole mitochondrial genomes and utilized next generation sequencing to obtain 3 whole nuclear genomes from purported Sasquatch samples. The genome sequencing shows that Sasquatch mtDNA is identical to modern Homo sapiens, but Sasquatch nuDNA is a novel, unknown hominin related to Homo sapiens and other primate species. Our data indicate that the North American Sasquatch is a hybrid species, the result of males of an unknown hominin species crossing with female Homo sapiens. Hominins are members of the taxonomic grouping Hominini, which includes all members of the genus Homo. Genetic testing has already ruled out Homo neanderthalis and the Denisova hominin as contributors to Sasquatch mtDNA or nuDNA. “The male progenitor that contributed the unknown sequence to this hybrid is unique as its DNA is more distantly removed from humans than other recently discovered hominins like the Denisovan individual,” explains Ketchum. “Sasquatch nuclear DNA is incredibly novel and not at all what we had expected. While it has human nuclear DNA within its genome, there are also distinctly non-human, non-archaic hominin, and non-ape sequences. We describe it as a mosaic of human and novel non-human sequence. Further study is needed and is ongoing to better characterize and understand Sasquatch nuclear DNA.” Ketchum is a veterinarian whose professional experience includes 27 years of research in genetics, including forensics. Early in her career she also practiced veterinary medicine, and she has previously been published as a participant in mapping the equine genome. She began testing the DNA of purported Sasquatch hair samples 5 years ago. Ketchum calls on public officials and law enforcement to immediately recognize the Sasquatch as an indigenous people: “Genetically, the Sasquatch are a human hybrid with unambiguously modern human maternal ancestry. Government at all levels must recognize them as an indigenous people and immediately protect their human and Constitutional rights against those who would see in their physical and cultural differences a ‘license’ to hunt, trap, or kill them.” Full details of the study will be presented in the near future when the study manuscript publishes. End of release Sweet... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 23182389 United States 11/24/2012 05:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This study is going to open up a can of worms and many levels. Dr. Ketchum wants to have Bigfoot protected which I CAN understand but she also wants them to be defined as an indigenous people with Constitutional Rights. Quoting: Squatch Hunter I believe Sasquatch should be protected but how can we afford Constitutional Rights and give Bigfoot an indigenous people classification when they aren't authentically Human? When I read these press releases the first thing that came to my mind is that Bigfoot might actually be Nephilim. I know of no other DNA mixing than what's already known and reported in the Bible. What other historic characterizations do we have of DNA mixing concerning Human Beings? Dunno. Bible mentioned sons of God and daughter of Earth. [link to www.lloydpye.com] |
lupa14714 User ID: 23350068 United Kingdom 11/24/2012 05:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | hmmmn,and who else lives down there too? church of euthanasia. [link to www.facebook.com] have just left my paranormal photos on,as I,m leaving soon.some you have to see whole picture,as clipped. |
sTTsTTT User ID: 20711409 United States 11/24/2012 05:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Protecting Sasquatch from indiscriminate trophy/bounty hunting and harassment is a first step. It would be amazing to learn whether they have distinct language(s), culture, and societal structure(s). From all reports, Sasquatch is elusive; aware of, and wary of humans. So learning more along these line might prove futile. (I can dream...) Eagerly awaiting the White Paper/Journal Article. It will be interesting whether Sasquatch has 23- or 24-chromosomes; and where, if 23-chromosomes, it's spliced/mutated/etc. Also if blood types are comparable/compat with Human. Apocalypse: All shall be revealed. And all shall be revealed. ******* All Human Beings are Human. Not all Humans are Human Beings. ******* |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 23182389 United States 11/24/2012 05:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Protecting Sasquatch from indiscriminate trophy/bounty hunting and harassment is a first step. Quoting: sTTsTTT It would be amazing to learn whether they have distinct language(s), culture, and societal structure(s). From all reports, Sasquatch is elusive; aware of, and wary of humans. So learning more along these line might prove futile. (I can dream...) Eagerly awaiting the White Paper/Journal Article. It will be interesting whether Sasquatch has 23- or 24-chromosomes; and where, if 23-chromosomes, it's spliced/mutated/etc. Also if blood types are comparable/compat with Human. They apparently have their own language. [link to www.nabigfootsearch.com] This website seems to cover a lot of things. |
sTTsTTT User ID: 20711409 United States 11/24/2012 06:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thanks Runner. That's one of my favourite sites with keeping track of developments. I have heard some of the recordings and been surprised how people would rule out "communication skills". Wouldn't surprise me if they were able to use sub-sonic vocalisation, too. Apocalypse: All shall be revealed. And all shall be revealed. ******* All Human Beings are Human. Not all Humans are Human Beings. ******* |
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Giftedest User ID: 10743044 United States 11/24/2012 06:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They are intelligent beings with language and (reportedly) highly evolved sensory perception... We have nothing to gain by 'studying' them and they certainly have nothing to gain by any form of communication with us "animals". Just read the responses to this thread so far. Some people would want to "save" them by introducing them to Christ! They've been around as long as we have and there's good reason that they have been kept secret and all these years. The big question is, WHY ARE WE BEING ALLOWED TO LEARN THE TRUTH NOW? Last Edited by oiko on 11/24/2012 06:48 PM Who does your thinking? |
Squatch Hunter (OP) User ID: 25765147 United States 11/25/2012 12:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | From the reports that I've studied, they do communicate in some sort of language and have other means of sending coded messages such as wood knocking etc. There is no doubt an intelligence present but apparently they don't wish to establish communications/relationships with us otherwise they'd have done it by now. Or perhaps the animal part of them is just too....animalistic. Whatever they are, they seem to be extremely intelligent for animals (?), elusive and very primitive. To me, the first sign of Human Intelligence would be the ability to make fire for warmth and cooking. I've yet to see evidence that they are capable of making fire. |
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lupa14714 User ID: 23350068 United Kingdom 11/25/2012 07:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is it a big foot or not? Too lazy to read OP's paragraphs. I'm entitled to someone telling me the answer Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5549032 You are entitled to nothing. If you are too lazy to read, then remain ignorant. hehe,or you can buy a nice camping holiday to yellowstone,take some pics for us. church of euthanasia. [link to www.facebook.com] have just left my paranormal photos on,as I,m leaving soon.some you have to see whole picture,as clipped. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 27951003 United States 11/25/2012 09:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They are intelligent beings with language and (reportedly) highly evolved sensory perception... Quoting: Giftedest They've been around as long as we have and there's good reason that they have been kept secret and all these years. The big question is, WHY ARE WE BEING ALLOWED TO LEARN THE TRUTH NOW? I believe Bigfoot is a human hybrid . First time i read this story really enjoyed it . I believe this guy for some reason... its a good read and interesting ! [link to www.bigfootencounters.com] |
sTTsTTT User ID: 20711409 United States 11/25/2012 11:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | @ Giftedest: Very valid points you raised, thank you. That's why I agree with Dr Ketchum about having Sasquatch protected from hunting/harassment being classified as "indigenous peoples". @ SasHunter: If they survived during the last IceAge, let's "assume" they have the ability to create & use fire. We know how to dig a pit/trench & bow fire...they may also. May Sasquatch also honour their dead with cairn burials? Answering many questions why we've not found bodies or artifacts. May they have skill sets we abandoned as we became "civilised" & "domesticated"? I used to spend a lot of time endurance/trail riding from Southeast Texas to Green Mountains & into East Canada. Heard many and many tales, legends, and lore along the way. Observed and been observed by some "one" (purposely not saying "thing") quite sentient beyond anamal... Yet not "us" by the reactions of my horses and my inner voice. Interesting times, indeed. Apocalypse: All shall be revealed. And all shall be revealed. ******* All Human Beings are Human. Not all Humans are Human Beings. ******* |
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