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I see things when between sleep and consciousness

 
truth 1111
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It asked me what I was doing there, and that this was "His" realm. I told it I didnt know why I was there. He just looked at me, amused... told me his name, and then I woke up. I dont remember his name, but I did write it down somewhere.
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in all honesty, this, and the hell dream, were more dreamlike. Not like the outer body experiences, so it couldve just been my imagination.

The outer body phenomena does interest me though.
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This used to happen to me too.

When I was young, under times of stress, this would happen. I would wake up, and not be able to move, then somehow, get up out of my body by forcing it, walk around the room, with what seemed like a giant rubber band connecting me to my body. I would get sucked back in if i lost concentration.

This freaked me out so I stopped doing it.

I have had one demonic experience during this. I woke in a cave, which looked to be underground, very deep. I walked through the cave and saw a giant demon in the wall, sitting on a type of chair carved out of the rackface iteself.

It asked me what I was doing there, and that this was "His" realm. I told it I didnt know why I was there. He just looked at me, amused... told me his name, and then I woke up. I dont remember his name, but I did write it down somewhere.
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I want to know the name, search it now!!
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You're exactly where i'm at. I never managed to have a dream-induced one, so I'm gonna keep on working with that scary stuff.
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Cool :) I'm by no means an expert, but I have had a few dream-induced OBEs. If you find yourself lucid within a dream, you might try consciously requesting to awaken in the astral. I've also read that you can try spinning around within the dream and that will get you onto the astral plane as well, but I've never done it successfully.

As for scary things, yeah.. They can suck. I dealt with a lot of it as a kid, and had no clue what was going on. But, when you stop letting things scare you (realizing they can't harm you, and aren't "real"), they lose their power over you, and you can eventually ignore anything you don't want to focus on.

hf
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HarryHood (OP)

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11/24/2012 04:34 PM
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anyone have links to info about this topic? How to control the when / where / how of Astral projection, meditation, kundalini energy / souls and so on?

basically anything but the preachy christian stuff
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11/24/2012 04:39 PM
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I have conversations with something between sleep and consciousness, i have no idea what about or with what. It is what it is. I'm sure if i became fully aware of such conversations it would either be genius or total retardation. Yet to decide on that one lol.
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11/24/2012 04:47 PM
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Hey OP, your having hypnagogic hallucinations. I have them most nights if I open my eyes in the dark when I'm close to the sleep state. For me its always spiders, all kinds, many made up forms. These hallucinations happen for many people with sleep disorders or interrupted sleep patterns.

I've spoken with some 'professionals' about it and they have a good explanations for why they occur, but they can't really explain the content of the hallucinations. Why spiders?? I dont know, but I know its a common one... Used to scare the crap out of me and my wife would get rather pissed off when I'd jump out of bed in the middle of the night trying to squash all the spiders!!

Now I just make sure I donít open my eyes once the lights go out and I never see them:0).

Also, I have sleep apnoea so my quality of sleep isnít great. Maybe you should look into that??

Lastly, this isn't uncommon (I think it affects about 1 in 1000 people), you're not going mad!!!!

peace
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11/24/2012 04:51 PM
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Re: I see things when between sleep and consciousness
I had a dream last night about how I went besurk on everyone around me telling them to shut the fuck up. I am also depressed and pissed off.
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11/24/2012 04:58 PM
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Re: I see things when between sleep and consciousness
Demonic beings are REAL!

We are in the middle of spiritual war, between God and Satan

If you want to know how to be safe of these demons, read Bible and go to a church, talk with a priest. There is a way to get safe of demons in the name of Jesus Christ.

The demons FEAR the name of Jesus Christ!!!
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Last time I tried talk with priest...he told me go to see psychiatrist :/ thanks so much for help ._.
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Most of today's so-called "priests" are not real priests. They are functionaries of some religious organization. Priesthood is both a gift and a mission from Above.
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Re: I see things when between sleep and consciousness
It is your consciousness leaving the body,...the vessel, the avatar...
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Re: I see things when between sleep and consciousness
Hey OP, your having hypnagogic hallucinations. I have them most nights if I open my eyes in the dark when I'm close to the sleep state. For me its always spiders, all kinds, many made up forms. These hallucinations happen for many people with sleep disorders or interrupted sleep patterns.

I've spoken with some 'professionals' about it and they have a good explanations for why they occur, but they can't really explain the content of the hallucinations. Why spiders?? I dont know, but I know its a common one... Used to scare the crap out of me and my wife would get rather pissed off when I'd jump out of bed in the middle of the night trying to squash all the spiders!!

Now I just make sure I donít open my eyes once the lights go out and I never see them:0).

Also, I have sleep apnoea so my quality of sleep isnít great. Maybe you should look into that??

Lastly, this isn't uncommon (I think it affects about 1 in 1000 people), you're not going mad!!!!

peace
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Forgot to say, I also have a buddy who experiences something similar. He sees 'cave men' with 'fire sticks'. they come into his room and he chases them out. as soon as he jumps out of bed and gets to his door they disappear. His wife sees it as normal for him now:0)

Google hypnagogic hallucinations, you will find lots of research, experiences and explanations.

Take care.
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Hey OP, your having hypnagogic hallucinations. I have them most nights if I open my eyes in the dark when I'm close to the sleep state. For me its always spiders, all kinds, many made up forms. These hallucinations happen for many people with sleep disorders or interrupted sleep patterns.

I've spoken with some 'professionals' about it and they have a good explanations for why they occur, but they can't really explain the content of the hallucinations. Why spiders?? I dont know, but I know its a common one... Used to scare the crap out of me and my wife would get rather pissed off when I'd jump out of bed in the middle of the night trying to squash all the spiders!!

Now I just make sure I donít open my eyes once the lights go out and I never see them:0).

Also, I have sleep apnoea so my quality of sleep isnít great. Maybe you should look into that??

Lastly, this isn't uncommon (I think it affects about 1 in 1000 people), you're not going mad!!!!

peace
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The lenghts people go to in order not to face reality and understand it! They stick some words to it and forget about it, because they already classified and put it in some drawer.

This is the best way to be kept in ignorance.
HarryHood (OP)

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11/24/2012 05:15 PM
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Re: I see things when between sleep and consciousness
Hey OP, your having hypnagogic hallucinations. I have them most nights if I open my eyes in the dark when I'm close to the sleep state. For me its always spiders, all kinds, many made up forms. These hallucinations happen for many people with sleep disorders or interrupted sleep patterns.

I've spoken with some 'professionals' about it and they have a good explanations for why they occur, but they can't really explain the content of the hallucinations. Why spiders?? I dont know, but I know its a common one... Used to scare the crap out of me and my wife would get rather pissed off when I'd jump out of bed in the middle of the night trying to squash all the spiders!!

Now I just make sure I donít open my eyes once the lights go out and I never see them:0).

Also, I have sleep apnoea so my quality of sleep isnít great. Maybe you should look into that??

Lastly, this isn't uncommon (I think it affects about 1 in 1000 people), you're not going mad!!!!

peace
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28056868


This explanation could work for some instances but what about when I witness real events happening around me in real time? Like the example I gave in the OP about seeing friends coming up my stairs and then waking to a knock on the door, of course it is the same two friends I just saw. And most of the time when I see these creatures they are not in the room I am sleeping in - they are in other rooms in my apartment or outdoors.

Another example: a few months ago I was watching a movie in bed when I nodded off. I immediately found myself in the backyard standing next to my vegetable garden where a raccoon is feasting on nearly ripe tomatoes. I look past the garden into the trees where I see a huge black shape with bright red eyes, like Christmas lights. Instantly I wake up in my bed with a gasp. The next morning, all of my near ripe tomatoes are gone. Similarly, I have witnessed animals going through my garbage and the next day the can is tipped over and the trash bags inside are shredded. I have also seen myself sleeping on a few occasions with one of these demonic entities peering at my physical body next to the bed.

It seems that my astral body / spirit / soul or whatever is attracted to life. When I find myself in another part of my apartment just after losing consciousness, It is almost always in a room where my cat or dog is sleeping, and like I said if there is animal life just outside my house I am plopped right next to them. The creatures have the same effect; I will all of a sudden be in my kitchen staring at the cracked pantry door where I can see something awful peering out at me. So this kind of stuff makes me think this is more than just hallucinations and I know they aren't just dreams. Everything is always exactly as it is in real life when I have these "visions."

So what I am trying to figure out is how can I control the how / why / where / when of this phenomenon. I want to be able to control it, to do it when meditating, to travel farther out into the world and beyond. It can be tremendously frightening but I think it has enormous potential for positive as well. I want to be able to access my higher self, kundalini energy, chakras, etc.
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Re: I see things when between sleep and consciousness
I do this too.

Its random remote viewing.
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Re: I see things when between sleep and consciousness
Hey OP, your having hypnagogic hallucinations. I have them most nights if I open my eyes in the dark when I'm close to the sleep state. For me its always spiders, all kinds, many made up forms. These hallucinations happen for many people with sleep disorders or interrupted sleep patterns.

I've spoken with some 'professionals' about it and they have a good explanations for why they occur, but they can't really explain the content of the hallucinations. Why spiders?? I dont know, but I know its a common one... Used to scare the crap out of me and my wife would get rather pissed off when I'd jump out of bed in the middle of the night trying to squash all the spiders!!

Now I just make sure I donít open my eyes once the lights go out and I never see them:0).

Also, I have sleep apnoea so my quality of sleep isnít great. Maybe you should look into that??

Lastly, this isn't uncommon (I think it affects about 1 in 1000 people), you're not going mad!!!!

peace
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The lenghts people go to in order not to face reality and understand it! They stick some words to it and forget about it, because they already classified and put it in some drawer.

This is the best way to be kept in ignorance.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28287156


I get why you would say that... I've astral travelled too, twice, and both times were a completely different experience to the hallucinations. 'Projecting outside of your body' and 'seeing things' are two different things. they could also be combined. For someone who has experienced both, I can talk from my own experience and say that the spiders I see are mine and made up, the astral travelling though was something different all together!!!
Certainly there are lower realm entities that some may call demons and who might take the form of of beings that try to evoke strong fear (wether they are actual demons in the Christian sense or whether they are just souls who havenít yet progress on there journey is for another conversation!).

OP, keep an open mind and understand that what you see is experienced by many others.
hf
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Re: I see things when between sleep and consciousness
Hey OP, your having hypnagogic hallucinations. I have them most nights if I open my eyes in the dark when I'm close to the sleep state. For me its always spiders, all kinds, many made up forms. These hallucinations happen for many people with sleep disorders or interrupted sleep patterns.

I've spoken with some 'professionals' about it and they have a good explanations for why they occur, but they can't really explain the content of the hallucinations. Why spiders?? I dont know, but I know its a common one... Used to scare the crap out of me and my wife would get rather pissed off when I'd jump out of bed in the middle of the night trying to squash all the spiders!!

Now I just make sure I donít open my eyes once the lights go out and I never see them:0).

Also, I have sleep apnoea so my quality of sleep isnít great. Maybe you should look into that??

Lastly, this isn't uncommon (I think it affects about 1 in 1000 people), you're not going mad!!!!

peace
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28056868


This explanation could work for some instances but what about when I witness real events happening around me in real time? Like the example I gave in the OP about seeing friends coming up my stairs and then waking to a knock on the door, of course it is the same two friends I just saw. And most of the time when I see these creatures they are not in the room I am sleeping in - they are in other rooms in my apartment or outdoors.

Another example: a few months ago I was watching a movie in bed when I nodded off. I immediately found myself in the backyard standing next to my vegetable garden where a raccoon is feasting on nearly ripe tomatoes. I look past the garden into the trees where I see a huge black shape with bright red eyes, like Christmas lights. Instantly I wake up in my bed with a gasp. The next morning, all of my near ripe tomatoes are gone. Similarly, I have witnessed animals going through my garbage and the next day the can is tipped over and the trash bags inside are shredded. I have also seen myself sleeping on a few occasions with one of these demonic entities peering at my physical body next to the bed.

It seems that my astral body / spirit / soul or whatever is attracted to life. When I find myself in another part of my apartment just after losing consciousness, It is almost always in a room where my cat or dog is sleeping, and like I said if there is animal life just outside my house I am plopped right next to them. The creatures have the same effect; I will all of a sudden be in my kitchen staring at the cracked pantry door where I can see something awful peering out at me. So this kind of stuff makes me think this is more than just hallucinations and I know they aren't just dreams. Everything is always exactly as it is in real life when I have these "visions."

So what I am trying to figure out is how can I control the how / why / where / when of this phenomenon. I want to be able to control it, to do it when meditating, to travel farther out into the world and beyond. It can be tremendously frightening but I think it has enormous potential for positive as well. I want to be able to access my higher self, kundalini energy, chakras, etc.
 Quoting: HarryHood


Hearing you. my astral travel experiences were completely 'uncontrolled'. I mean, when they occurred I wasnít trying for them to. Both times I heard a voice in my head saying it was time to get up, and I just sat up out of my body. Both times I got out of bed with an understanding of what was happening and in control of where I was going, but as soon as I had a limiting thought I 'sucked' straight back into my body and woke up with a gasp!

Tell me OP, do you remember going back into your body or the reasons you go back to it? Are they conscious reasons or do you just go from your surroundings back to your body in an instant and without control?
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I had this recently. I wanted to make it known to "tptb" that the reason for my behaviour was also to find out who they are. So I willed a fiery pyramid eye.!
They scry. I don't.
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I had this recently. I wanted to make it known to "tptb" that the reason for my behaviour was also to find out who they are. So I willed a fiery pyramid eye.!
They scry. I don't.
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I have never actually experienced my astral self moving back inside my body from the astral point of view, no. I normally see something which scares me at which point i become conscious again. However, I have had experiences where, when theoretically out of my body, I feel fear BECAUSE I become aware that I am not connected to my physical body and at that instant I am awake.

Basically I feel like I am having very brief, elementary OBEs / astral projection experiences. I have little control over what is happening or when it happens. If not for the witnessing of real events in real time, I would probably think these were indeed just hallucinations or vivd, strange dreams. I want to know more about what is happening and how to become "good" at doing it. I have read about people being able to travel anywhere in the universe in their astral bodies, and of course this experience is related to remote viewing as well. I find this stuff to be fascinating. I am more fascinated and excited about that prospect then i am afraid of the negative things I see.
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I see different places and sceneries while being half asleep
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I do too and after many years I can turn it on and off at will. Our minds our capable of so much, wish I could tap into more.
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This happens to me too. Usually in the early mornings when I've gotten up to use the bathroom then gone back to bed to sleep another hour. Or other times it's when I'm just totally exhausted and so happy to be laying down. It has been happening about three years now, at least three or four days a week.

I can't really "see" anything though. It's like I have an opaque blindfold on. I can see shapes, light. I can't hear anything exactly, but there's a sense - I dunno. Best way I can describe it. And frankly this topic is what got me lurking around here on GLP.
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