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And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week?....NOT SOME ANTICHRIST BEING REFERRED TOO

 
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And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week?....NOT SOME ANTICHRIST BEING REFERRED TOO
I really wish you people stop following the false teachers and search your scriptures.This is the deception that have you all waiting on a man to make peace for three and a half years and then in the middle ; the next three and a half years bring on the great tribualtion..

The week is not a physical week but a break down in time the hebrews counted ttime in weeks of jubilees

7 x 360 = 2520 yrs
3.5 x 360 =1260 yrs

1260/360 =3 1/2

week in this context is a jubilee

IOLYHTYY

**That is very very wrong this has nothing to do with an antichrist**

The book of daniel was very specific and there are other precepts which will tell you exactly what was revealed to Daniel.

JKYJYJYJY

The Book Of Daniel Chp 9

27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
Dan 12:11 Matt 24:15 Mark 13:14


WHAT WAS THAT COVENNANT? NOTICE IT SAID "THE COVENANT" AND NOT "A COVENANT". NOW WHO HAD MADE A COVENANT WITH HIS PEOPLE?

YOUR BIBLE TELLS YOU ABOUT THIS COVENANT THAT WAS MADE, EVEN THE NEW TESTAMENT RECONFIRMED THIS.WHEN MESSIAH WAS CRUCIFIED HE SAID "IT IS FINISHED"
**IT IS FINISHED! BECAUSE HE ACCOMPLISHED THE TASK OF BEING THE REDEEMER OF ISRAEL THROUGH HIS DEATH. HE CONFIRMED THE COVENANT AND PROVED THE FATHER JUST AND TRUE TO HIS WORD**


NOW LET US LOOK AT "THE COVENANT" THAT WAS MADE AND AGAIN REFERENCED IN YOUR NEW TESTAMENT BY BROTHER PAUL CONFFIRMING THAT THESE MEN DID STUDY THE OLD TESTAMENT AND THAT IS WHAT THEY TAUGHT FROM

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The Book Of Galations Chp 3

16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is "Christ"[A MESSIAH][THE SCARIFICE][A SAVIOR][the lamb that will be slaughtered]

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REMEMBER YOU SING THIS IN CHURCH?.
GENESIS CHAPTER 22:8 And Abraham said, My son, God will provide himself a lamb for a burnt offering: so they went both of them together

IF YOU READ THE WHOLE CHAPTER YOU WILL SEE THE PROMISE WAS MADE "THE COVENANT"
"THE LAMB OF GOD THAT CAME TO TAKE AWAY THE SINS OF THE WORLD"
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17 And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect.

RIGHT HERE IS THE CONFIRMATION OF "THE COVENANT"the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ,


18 For if the inheritance be of the law, it is no more of promise: but God gave it to Abraham by promise.

19 Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator.

20 Now a mediator is not a mediator of one, but God is one.

21 Is the law then against the promises of God? God forbid: for if there had been a law given which could have given life, verily righteousness should have been by the law.

22 But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.



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THE COVENANT DANIEL SPOKE OF WAS CONFIRMED BY THE CRUCIFIXION OF MESSIAH TAKING AWAY THE SACRIFICING OF ANIMALS AND OBLATIONS.THIS THE PROMISE MADE TO ABRAHAM AS YOU SEE AND TO HIS SEED

29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to "the promise" "THE COVENANT"

Last Edited by Neim-Ya'shar on 11/25/2012 08:53 AM
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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But,

When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:) Matthew 24:15
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But,

When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:) Matthew 24:15
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14798113


that is the romans when they came into the land.in the apostles time..I will not get into this part right now but study and examine what is before you.


"the covenant"
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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oh really? i didnt know Christ's covenant was just for 1 week...sorry op youre way off
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Shabbat Shalom! I want to thank you for your posts. I truly appreciate all the time and love you put into your work. I for one will search the Scriptures diligently for you have truly given me food for thought. I came out of constantinian Christianity about eight years ago and am trying to obey YHVH and am learning more by joining a Shabbat Torah study group. I am no longer fooled by the pre-trib rapture crowd.

Thank you again for your loving work that you share. May Yah truly bless you in your studies.
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But,

When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:) Matthew 24:15
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14798113


that is the romans when they came into the land.in the apostles time..I will not get into this part right now but study and examine what is before you.


"the covenant"
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


Yeah I think that's it.

Antiochus Epiphanes sacrificed an unclean pig in the Temple and I believe it refers to this.
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oh really? i didnt know Christ's covenant was just for 1 week...sorry op youre way off
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the week is not a physical week but a break down in time

7 x 360 = 2520 yrs
3.5 x 360 =1260 yrs
week in this context is a jubilee

THE KILLING OF MESSIAH WAS THE ABOMINATION

NOTICE THE DESOLATION OF JERUSALEM WAS IN EFFECT UNTIL IT REALLY HIT IN 70AD


CAPS ...BUT NOT YELLING....LOL

Last Edited by Neim-Ya'shar on 11/24/2012 10:17 AM
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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Gods "covenant" is everlasting...
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But,

When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:) Matthew 24:15
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14798113


that is the romans when they came into the land.in the apostles time..I will not get into this part right now but study and examine what is before you.


"the covenant"
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


Yeah I think that's it.

Antiochus Epiphanes sacrificed an unclean pig in the Temple and I believe it refers to this.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 986650


Many scholars teach this maybe even at your church but this was a type of the destruction that was to come to israel in the apostles time...go to matthew 24 aand study the phases and the timing

Last Edited by Neim-Ya'shar on 11/24/2012 10:21 AM
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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Gods "covenant" is everlasting...
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yes
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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Shabbat Shalom! I want to thank you for your posts. I truly appreciate all the time and love you put into your work. I for one will search the Scriptures diligently for you have truly given me food for thought. I came out of constantinian Christianity about eight years ago and am trying to obey YHVH and am learning more by joining a Shabbat Torah study group. I am no longer fooled by the pre-trib rapture crowd.

Thank you again for your loving work that you share. May Yah truly bless you in your studies.
 Quoting: amarilloemily

you are most welcome and continue to seek truth

Last Edited by Neim-Ya'shar on 11/24/2012 10:21 AM
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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oh really? i didnt know Christ's covenant was just for 1 week...sorry op youre way off
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the week is not a physical week but a break down in time

7 x 360 = 2520 yrs
3.5 x 360 =1260 yrs
week in this context is a jubilee

THE KILLING OF MESSIAH WAS THE ABOMINATION

NOTICE THE DESOLATION OF JERUSALEM WAS IN EFFECT UNTIL IT REALLY HIT IN 70AD


CAPS ...BUT NOT YELLING....LOL
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


what a bunch of complete garbage sorry op. if what youre saying is true then you believe the end times arent until the year 2520 or so AD? which would be the end of the time anyone can recieve Christ's sacrifice or covenant? once again...way off
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Gods "covenant" is everlasting...
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yes
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so then you admit your THEORY btw is complete BS
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Gods "covenant" is everlasting...
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yes
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


Now the Jews still await their Messiah...

So what covenant have they accepted at this time?

And without sacrifices, how do they make propitiation for sin (according to the law)?

They have not accepted that everlasting covenant (yet), nor do they have a propitiation for sins (yet).

When the one who "comes in his own name" stands up, him they will accept. He is the desolation spoken of in Daniel.
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oh really? i didnt know Christ's covenant was just for 1 week...sorry op youre way off
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1880593


the week is not a physical week but a break down in time

7 x 360 = 2520 yrs
3.5 x 360 =1260 yrs
week in this context is a jubilee

THE KILLING OF MESSIAH WAS THE ABOMINATION

NOTICE THE DESOLATION OF JERUSALEM WAS IN EFFECT UNTIL IT REALLY HIT IN 70AD


CAPS ...BUT NOT YELLING....LOL
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


what a bunch of complete garbage sorry op. if what youre saying is true then you believe the end times arent until the year 2520 or so AD? which would be the end of the time anyone can recieve Christ's sacrifice or covenant? once again...way off
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no there was a time alotted for the persecution and the tranmpling down of israel by the gentiles until it comes to a full... we are in that final time which is the time of jacobs trouble from 70ad the last 1260 years and beyond until messiah comes again
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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Gods "covenant" is everlasting...
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yes
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


Now the Jews still await their Messiah...

So what covenant have they accepted at this time?

And without sacrifices, how do they make propitiation for sin (according to the law)?

They have not accepted that everlasting covenant (yet), nor do they have a propitiation for sins (yet).

When the one who "comes in his own name" stands up, him they will accept. He is the desolation spoken of in Daniel.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1194370


for what op is saying, it would have to mean Christs covenant is not everlasting since the scripture says its only for one week even if that works out to be 2520 years, thats still not everlasting and still ends. op you are wrong sorry
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THE KILLING OF MESSIAH WAS THE ABOMINATION
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No, It was/is not 'the abomination' spoken of.

The killing of Messiah, was the plan of God before the foundation of the world and had the princes of the world known that, they never would have crucified Him.
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Wrong OP....It's talking about the AntiChrist.

Christ is being talked about in the verses in blue.

Anti-Christ in Red.

It's very clear when taken in context.



Dan 9:25 Know therefore and understand, [that] from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince [shall be] seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.
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Dan 9:26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself:
and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof [shall be] with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.


Dan 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make [it] desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
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Gods "covenant" is everlasting...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1194370


yes
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


Now the Jews still await their Messiah...

So what covenant have they accepted at this time?

And without sacrifices, how do they make propitiation for sin (according to the law)?

They have not accepted that everlasting covenant (yet), nor do they have a propitiation for sins (yet).

When the one who "comes in his own name" stands up, him they will accept. He is the desolation spoken of in Daniel.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1194370


for what op is saying, it would have to mean Christs covenant is not everlasting since the scripture says its only for one week even if that works out to be 2520 years, thats still not everlasting and still ends. op you are wrong sorry
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you are talking but you do not understand.. the covenant to ABRAHAM is a promise that all his seed will be saved through his crucifixion. Messiah completed that promise by dying on the cross and the everlasting promise continues by and is binding until he comes again to redeem those he has a covenant with and those who obey and trust him through their faith. He was the promise and is the promised coevenant to redeem ISRAEL

Last Edited by Neim-Ya'shar on 11/24/2012 10:36 AM
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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I really wish you people stop following the false teachers and search your scriptures.This is the deception that have you all waiting on a man to make peace for three and a half years and then in the middle ; the next three and a half years bring on the great tribualtion..

The week is not a physical week but a break down in time the hebrews counted ttime in weeks of jubilees

7 x 360 = 2520 yrs
3.5 x 360 =1260 yrs

1290/360 =3 1/2

week in this context is a jubilee

IOLYHTYY

**That is very very wrong this has nothing to do with an antichrist**

The book of daniel was very specific and there are other precepts which will tell you exactly what was revealed to Daniel.

JKYJYJYJY

The Book Of Daniel Chp 9

27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
Dan 12:11 Matt 24:15 Mark 13:14


WHAT WAS THAT COVENNANT? NOTICE IT SAID "THE COVENANT" AND NOT "A COVENANT". NOW WHO HAD MADE A COVENANT WITH HIS PEOPLE?

YOUR BIBLE TELLS YOU ABOUT THIS COVENANT THAT WAS MADE, EVEN THE NEW TESTAMENT RECONFIRMED THIS.WHEN MESSIAH WAS CRUCIFIED HE SAID "IT IS FINISHED"

NOW LET US LOOK AT "THE COVENANT" THAT WAS MADE AND AGAIN REFERENCED IN YOUR NEW TESTAMENT BY BROTHER PAUL CONFFIRMING THAT THESE MEN DID STUDY THE OLD TESTAMENT AND THAT IS WHAT THEY TAUGHT FROM

M,JJK,J

The Book Of Galations Chp 3

16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.
Gen 21:12 Rom 9:7 Heb 11:18

17 And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect.

18 For if the inheritance be of the law, it is no more of promise: but God gave it to Abraham by promise.

19 Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator.

20 Now a mediator is not a mediator of one, but God is one.

21 Is the law then against the promises of God? God forbid: for if there had been a law given which could have given life, verily righteousness should have been by the law.

22 But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.



jkjkjj


THE COVENANT DANIEL SPOKE OF WAS CONFIRMED BY THE CRUCIFIXION OF MESSIAH TAKING AWAY THE SACRIFICING OF ANIMALS AND OBLATIONS.THIS THE PROMISE MADE TO ABRAHAM AS YOU SEE AND TO HIS SEED

29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to "the promise" "THE COVENANT"
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


John 5:39 "You search the Scriptures because you think that in them you have aionion life; it is these that testify about Me;
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Gods "covenant" is everlasting...
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yes
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


Now the Jews still await their Messiah...

So what covenant have they accepted at this time?

And without sacrifices, how do they make propitiation for sin (according to the law)?

They have not accepted that everlasting covenant (yet), nor do they have a propitiation for sins (yet).

When the one who "comes in his own name" stands up, him they will accept. He is the desolation spoken of in Daniel.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1194370


for what op is saying, it would have to mean Christs covenant is not everlasting since the scripture says its only for one week even if that works out to be 2520 years, thats still not everlasting and still ends. op you are wrong sorry
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...Unless the LORD builds the house, its builders labor in vain
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yes
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


Now the Jews still await their Messiah...

So what covenant have they accepted at this time?

And without sacrifices, how do they make propitiation for sin (according to the law)?

They have not accepted that everlasting covenant (yet), nor do they have a propitiation for sins (yet).

When the one who "comes in his own name" stands up, him they will accept. He is the desolation spoken of in Daniel.
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for what op is saying, it would have to mean Christs covenant is not everlasting since the scripture says its only for one week even if that works out to be 2520 years, thats still not everlasting and still ends. op you are wrong sorry
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...Unless the LORD builds the house, its builders labor in vain
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There are many that came from us but are not of us....
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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Now the Jews still await their Messiah...

So what covenant have they accepted at this time?

And without sacrifices, how do they make propitiation for sin (according to the law)?

They have not accepted that everlasting covenant (yet), nor do they have a propitiation for sins (yet).

When the one who "comes in his own name" stands up, him they will accept. He is the desolation spoken of in Daniel.
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for what op is saying, it would have to mean Christs covenant is not everlasting since the scripture says its only for one week even if that works out to be 2520 years, thats still not everlasting and still ends. op you are wrong sorry
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...Unless the LORD builds the house, its builders labor in vain
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There are many that came from us but are not of us....
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What is it you are seeking OP?
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Whatever it is you are seeking OP, may you find it in abundance.

Blessings to you today and Happy Sabbath.
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Re: And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week?....NOT SOME ANTICHRIST BEING REFERRED TOO
I really wish you people stop following the false teachers and search your scriptures.This is the deception that have you all waiting on a man to make peace for three and a half years and then in the middle ; the next three and a half years bring on the great tribualtion..

The week is not a physical week but a break down in time the hebrews counted ttime in weeks of jubilees

7 x 360 = 2520 yrs
3.5 x 360 =1260 yrs

1260/360 =3 1/2

week in this context is a jubilee

:IOLYHTYY:

**That is very very wrong this has nothing to do with an antichrist**

The book of daniel was very specific and there are other precepts which will tell you exactly what was revealed to Daniel.

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The Book Of Daniel Chp 9

27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
Dan 12:11 Matt 24:15 Mark 13:14


WHAT WAS THAT COVENNANT? NOTICE IT SAID "THE COVENANT" AND NOT "A COVENANT". NOW WHO HAD MADE A COVENANT WITH HIS PEOPLE?

YOUR BIBLE TELLS YOU ABOUT THIS COVENANT THAT WAS MADE, EVEN THE NEW TESTAMENT RECONFIRMED THIS.WHEN MESSIAH WAS CRUCIFIED HE SAID "IT IS FINISHED"
**IT IS FINISHED! BECAUSE HE ACCOMPLISHED THE TASK OF BEING THE REDEEMER OF ISRAEL THROUGH HIS DEATH. HE CONFIRMED THE COVENANT AND PROVED THE FATHER JUST AND TRUE TO HIS WORD**


NOW LET US LOOK AT "THE COVENANT" THAT WAS MADE AND AGAIN REFERENCED IN YOUR NEW TESTAMENT BY BROTHER PAUL CONFFIRMING THAT THESE MEN DID STUDY THE OLD TESTAMENT AND THAT IS WHAT THEY TAUGHT FROM

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The Book Of Galations Chp 3

16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.
Gen 21:12 Rom 9:7 Heb 11:18

17 And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect.

18 For if the inheritance be of the law, it is no more of promise: but God gave it to Abraham by promise.

19 Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator.

20 Now a mediator is not a mediator of one, but God is one.

21 Is the law then against the promises of God? God forbid: for if there had been a law given which could have given life, verily righteousness should have been by the law.

22 But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.



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THE COVENANT DANIEL SPOKE OF WAS CONFIRMED BY THE CRUCIFIXION OF MESSIAH TAKING AWAY THE SACRIFICING OF ANIMALS AND OBLATIONS.THIS THE PROMISE MADE TO ABRAHAM AS YOU SEE AND TO HIS SEED

29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to "the promise" "THE COVENANT"
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you are not far off.

the witness of the lord jesus christ was indeed seven years, yet only three-and-one-half are fulfilled.

remember, in the midst of the week he was cut off; killed on the cross in the middle of the week.

he has yet three-and-one-half weeks to fulfill.

look where jesus stopped in quoting when he had unrolled the scroll:

The Spirit of the Lord [is] upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised, To preach the acceptable year of the Lord. And he closed the book... And he began to say unto them, This day is this scripture fulfilled in your ears.

he stopped right in the middle of a verse and closed the book; yet the full counsel is:

To proclaim the acceptable year of the LORD, and the day of vengeance of our God

the first half was, "the acceptable year" and the second half "the day of vengeance of our God".

neim, he will fulfill the second half of his ministry in the two witnesses who come after the similitude of moses and aaron to reveal the seven thunders during their three-and-one-half year prophecy.
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Re: And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week?....NOT SOME ANTICHRIST BEING REFERRED TOO
Wrong OP....It's talking about the AntiChrist.

Christ is being talked about in the verses in blue.

Anti-Christ in Red.

It's very clear when taken in context.



Dan 9:25 Know therefore and understand, [that] from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince [shall be] seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.
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Dan 9:26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself:
and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof [shall be] with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.


Dan 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make [it] desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

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yep, classic mistake. they take one verse without checking the context and reading the verses around it both before and after it and try to interpret it. those without eyes to see...
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Wrong OP....It's talking about the AntiChrist.

Christ is being talked about in the verses in blue.

Anti-Christ in Red.

It's very clear when taken in context.



Dan 9:25 Know therefore and understand, [that] from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince [shall be] seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.
Available Commentaries for Daniel 9:25

Dan 9:26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself:
and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof [shall be] with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.


Dan 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make [it] desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10783814


yep, classic mistake. they take one verse without checking the context and reading the verses around it both before and after it and try to interpret it. those without eyes to see...
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op conveniently ignored this post, refused to acknowledge it kindof like it doesnt exist
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Re: And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week?....NOT SOME ANTICHRIST BEING REFERRED TOO
Wrong OP....It's talking about the AntiChrist.

Christ is being talked about in the verses in blue.

Anti-Christ in Red.

It's very clear when taken in context.



Dan 9:25 Know therefore and understand, [that] from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince [shall be] seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.
Available Commentaries for Daniel 9:25

Dan 9:26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself:
and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof [shall be] with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.


Dan 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make [it] desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10783814


yep, classic mistake. they take one verse without checking the context and reading the verses around it both before and after it and try to interpret it. those without eyes to see...
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OP is correct, the mistake is yours.
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Wrong OP....It's talking about the AntiChrist.

Christ is being talked about in the verses in blue.

Anti-Christ in Red.

It's very clear when taken in context.



Dan 9:25 Know therefore and understand, [that] from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince [shall be] seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.
Available Commentaries for Daniel 9:25

Dan 9:26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself:
and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof [shall be] with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.


Dan 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make [it] desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10783814


yep, classic mistake. they take one verse without checking the context and reading the verses around it both before and after it and try to interpret it. those without eyes to see...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1880593


OP is correct, the mistake is yours.
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great argument...
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"The beast that you saw was, and is not, and WILL ASCEND OUT OF THE BOTTOMLESS PIT......


"And those who dwell on the earth will marvel when they see the beast that was, and is not, and yet is."



"I saw one of his heads as if it had been mortally wounded, and his deadly wound was healed. And all the world marveled and followed the beast."
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Re: And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week?....NOT SOME ANTICHRIST BEING REFERRED TOO
Wrong OP....It's talking about the AntiChrist.

Christ is being talked about in the verses in blue.

Anti-Christ in Red.

It's very clear when taken in context.



Dan 9:25 Know therefore and understand, [that] from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince [shall be] seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.
Available Commentaries for Daniel 9:25

Dan 9:26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself:
and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof [shall be] with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.


Dan 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make [it] desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10783814


yep, classic mistake. they take one verse without checking the context and reading the verses around it both before and after it and try to interpret it. those without eyes to see...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1880593


what is "the covenant" that your so called antichrist made..it says "the covenant" so which means it is one that is known to the people which they look forward to.So you find it for me and then I will be convinced .

The only covenant and is mentioned as "the covenant" is what I gave from scriptures in the thread. And is applicable
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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