Evolution: A magic word that means I have no clue if NON-intelligent design is possible but I want YOU to think I do? For instance;

Or uh...... maybe this is a random process of 'natural selection', you know,aeronautical engineering without knowledge/intention/intelligence, like how the Wright Brothers accidentally made the first airplane? Don't let these guys fool you, this flying machine actually just evolved out of sticks and stuff in the woods.

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Oh oh Mr Darwin..... no one in your church can defend your "faith" in the NON-intelligent design thingy?

How about you 'professors' out there?

Did you know that There IS medicine for OCD?

I know the cure for ignorance is knowledge.

Your carrying on on here is not the works you think it is.

huh?

Sometimes scientific education is needed before spiritual education.
"And Jesus approached and spoke to them, saying: “All authority has been given me in heaven and on the earth. 19 Go therefore and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit, 20 teaching them to observe all the things I have commanded YOU. And, look! I am with YOU all the days until the conclusion of the system of things.” Mt28:19

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You're right OP--you have no clue.

OP, are you aware of what the words "belief" and "faith" even mean? it doesn't seem like you have a very strong grasp of their meaning, or simply choose to ignore the fact it applies to you as well. you BELIEVE you're right, you have FAITH in your religion, which means you have no fucking clue. the only exception is your beliefs contain a sky daddy, which is just as ridiculous as saying mutations created everything.

What...? No defense for NON-intelligent design? Hmmm......

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The Wright Brothers didnt build a Stealth Bomber, flight started with a crap plane and was changed over time.

Nature Had It First
“Ask, please, . . . the winged creatures of the heavens, and they will tell you. . . . The hand of Jehovah itself has done this.”—Job 12:7-9.

EVERYTHING about birds appears to be designed for flight. For example, the shafts of wing feathers must support a bird’s entire weight during flight. How can the wings be so light yet so strong? If you cut through the shaft of a feather, you may see why. It resembles what engineers call a foam-sandwich beam. It has a pithy interior and a rough exterior. Engineers have studied feather shafts, and foam-sandwich beams are used in aircraft.

The bones of birds are also amazingly designed. Most are hollow, and some may be strengthened by internal struts in a form engineers call the Warren girder. Interestingly, a similar design was used in the wings of the space shuttle.
Pilots balance modern aircraft by adjusting a few flaps on the wings and tail. But a bird uses some 48 muscles in its wing and shoulder to change the configuration and motion of its wings and individual feathers, doing so several times a second. No wonder that avian aerobatic ability is the envy of aircraft designers!

Flight, especially takeoff, consumes a lot of energy. So birds need a powerful, fast-burning “engine.” A bird’s heart beats faster than that of a similar-size mammal and is usually larger and more powerful. Also, a bird’s lungs have a different, one-way-flow design that is more efficient than a mammal’s.

How efficient is a bird’s “engine”? A measure of an aircraft’s efficiency is whether it can take off carrying sufficient fuel. When a Boeing 747 takes off for a ten-hour flight, roughly a third of its weight is fuel. Similarly, a migrating thrush may lose almost half of its body weight on a ten-hour flight. But when a bar-tailed godwit takes off from Alaska heading for New Zealand, over half its body weight is fat. Astonishingly, it flies for about 190 hours (eight days) nonstop. No commercial aircraft can do that.
AWAKE 3/10/05

A Lesson in Cooperation
Two jet aircraft flew across the sky like birds in tight formation. But this was not a routine flight; it was a scientific experiment based on earlier studies conducted on pelicans. Researchers had found that pelicans flying in formation gain extra lift from those ahead, resulting in a 15 percent reduction in heartbeat compared with their heartbeat when flying alone. Could aircraft benefit from the same aerodynamic principles?

In order to find out, engineers fitted a test plane with sophisticated electronics that enabled the pilot to keep his craft within a foot [30 cm] of a specific point relative to the lead plane, which was about 300 feet [90 m] ahead. The result? His jet experienced 20 percent less drag than normal and burned up to 18 percent less fuel. Researchers believe that these findings may have both military and civilian applications.

Jets: NASA Dryden Flight Research Center; birds: © Joyce Gross

Alright please provide tangible physical evidence of this intelligent creator.

Then creationism/ID does not make supernatural claims anymore and thus is valid through the scientific method.

Problem solved.

Oh wait... That isn't how creatiotards work. They prefer propaganda and vague unsubstantiated claims that serve no purpose what so ever.

All of DGN's threads remind me of this:

Yet you're still infected with ignorance. I know, american health care doesn't cover the cost of treatment for your disease.

A Masonic propagandist for the establishment, this is who you choose to put your faith in? Carl Sagan was a Freemason. Freemasons worship the devil. Carl Sagan was doing the devil's work.

A Masonic propagandist for the establishment, this is who you choose to put your faith in? Carl Sagan was a Freemason. Freemasons worship the devil. Carl Sagan was doing the devil's work.

The tangible physical evidence is you. Don't you see how wonderfully you were made brother? Look at your hands. All the best minds in the world could not build something that compares.

A logic fail comment on a video about logic fail. Doesn't get any better than that.

I think life devolved through Lucifers design. It is opposite of evolution. All lifeforms started perfect when God created the Earth also having eternal life. There was no death and therefore there is no fossile record from the earliest times. At the start of the Paleozoic era, about 600 m.y. ago Lucifer brought sin into the world and thereby death, but only the most primitive lifeforms died in the beginning as is seen in the earliest fossils. As time passed on death prevailed for more and more advanced forms, after a while even the plant life had to take the consequences for sin and fossil plants especially come to its height in the Carboniferous era. At last also humans had to die but not until a few million years ago. But then God created Adam and Eve to bring back again our original nature and the original creation as it was some billions of years ago.

So I think that what we observe is actually a result of an evolution in death and not of the life, and that this is a consequence of Lucifers fall.

Hadn't seen one of these in a few days. Always good for a few laughs.

The logic reminds me most of that super orange Greek guy with the blown out hair that's always interviewed on History channel: "You can't explain how this thing happened except with either aliens or the supernatural. I don't believe in the supernatural therefore aliens did it!" He never considers that maybe he just lacks the facts or understanding that would provide a much more mundane explanation i.e. evolution might be more complicated than science currently understands or maybe it interacts with other natural forces in a way they haven't explored yet. That's obviously unsatisfying for the OP; especially given the readily available explanation found in his magic book from 5000 years ago.

<sings> HE'S A TROLL MAAAAAAAAAN!!! <sings>

So my mom and dad are intelligent designers that guided evolution and the formation of the universe?

And when I have kids I'll be god as well?

Interesting...

Really, why didn't you reveal to me how this caterpillar reconstructed it's self into an aircraft? Do they have secret blueprints to transform with? Or is your theory of NON-intelligent design just "propaganda and vague unsubstantiated claims that serve no purpose what so ever"?