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Obamacare -- A Physician’s New Reality: Patients Ask Me to Break the Law

 
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If I was to liken America to anything. This story comes closest!!!

Up in the arctic circle there is tribe of Eskimo's who have learned to set a very simple yet effective trap for wolves. First they sharpen a knife razor sharp. Then they dip it in the blood of a seal they have killed. (you see seals are fairly easy to trap but wolves are very dangerous). After dipping the knife in blood they set it outside in the cold so the blood freezes on the knife. After if freezes (a matter of minutes) they dip it again into the seal blood and again take it out an let the blood freeze. Layer after layer they make a blood popsicle. When they are done, the knife's blade is hidden inside just like a popsicle stick. Now they
take the knife out into the wilderness where they think a wolf might be. There they bury the handle of the knife in the snow leaving the blood popsicle standing up and they leave.

Now after a while a wolf will come along guided by his sense of smell and find the "bloodsicle". He will being licking it, enjoying every taste. Over and over he licks the knife and soon his tongue is so cold he cannot feel it any longer. It's numb. But his taste for blood is growing and he
is not getting as much as he wants - you see, popsicles are slow eating. Finally his licking exposes the razor sharp edge of the knife. It cuts into his tongue again and again but he does not even notice for his tongue can no longer feel anything. The wolfs own blood now flows from his cut
tongue. The wolf is thrilled, blood is now more plentiful and he continues to lick more and more.

Soon he notices something is wrong, he is getting weaker not stronger. Since he knows blood as food he increases his efforts to feed on the ever increasing flow of blood. His last thoughts are of how good the now warm blood tastes. Within minutes he licks his last and collapse next to the
now fully exposed knife. Here the Eskimo knows he will find the wolfs body the next morning.


PEOPLE WE HAVE BEEN LICKING THE KNIFE FOR A FEW YEARS NOW!! WE ARE BLEEDING SLOWLY BUT THE BLEED HAS ALREADY BEGUN!!
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cool story bro,

but it has nothing to do with healthcare
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22899606


It absolutely does. The healthcare has to do with America and where we are going and the story directly relates to America. The healthcare bill is just another way of making us bleed!! It is directly related!
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I have a surgeon in the family, and the hard part for them is they will have to deny care. They will look at the patient and say, "I have the technology, skill and experience to save you, but you aren't covered, and I'm not allowed to do this for free anymore."

He just did a $250,000 life-saving procedure for 'free' recently and saved a man's life. That will be a thing of the past.


Learn to take care of your own health now, so you won't need the government to do that later.
 Quoting: Zedakah


now Ive heard everything, Lord you cant get the surgeons to remove an organ donors organs without guaranteed fees for service so who are you trying to kid, no such thing happened and as far as being able to see docs on obamacare no problem its when you have a chronic condition you'll have to worry.And doctors ask those stupid questions now so what is the difference.Do you pay for insurance now? then nothing changes for you,you can keep on keeping on and as far as doctors walking off the job, well if its the bottom dollar your so worried about and not your patients then good luck in another career.So long goodbye good riddance
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Play the game answer the questions and be good boys and girls.
Its only for a short while. America is almost dead.
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simple answer.

lie and present violence as an alternative if your will is not done. if they try to mandate something tell them you WILL hurt them if they do it, then go home, gather your shit fast get a gun and ammo and leave for the woods.

any federal agent who would come after you, any police officer, any military agent is a son of satan and you can do whatever you want to hurt/kill them as long as you survive.

if it gets bad, there will be civil war and you will be a hero

god loves a good liar, and hates a bad one. in a system where the ends justify the means, your moral system must change and fight the dragon tooth and nail.

I always did this with psychologists and ALWAYS WILL.

if they do something I dont want, I will threaten them with death, and if they proceed I will slaughter them in the office. I have no cares for the unjust laws or anyone who would follow unjust law. I only follow just ones, and I believe MY opinion on this has been instructed by the divine. NOBODY will convince me otherwise. even if god came down himself I would debate him because what proof would there be that he is ACTUALLY god and not just an illusion?

in the case things go to far there is only one way to stop me and that is to extinguish the flame of life I was gifted. I reccomend you all get ready for the same fate. The aspect of the state being involved in healthcare is HORRIFIC. it alone IS justification to kill our leaders whether you realize this or not.

BY FORCING PEOPLE TO SAY THINGS AND DIAGNOSE YOU THEY FORCE YOU INTO PARADIGMS YOU CANNOT ESCAPE. THIS WILL BRING THE REALITY OF THE SCHIZOPHRENICS INTO YOUR LIFE TOO!!! STRONG LOVING HELPABLE PEOPLE WILL BE DAMNED.

SO REMEMBER - LIE LIE LIE LIE LIE LIE LIE. this makes your doctor a state computer bent on terminating you, so you have to fill out the questionaire just right.

tell them what you want. practice the lie - act it out. make yourself feel the real emotions when saying the words and say it like a sociopath to them. substantiate as much as you can, and go into logical loops whenever you cant explain away.

give them the positive answers they want in a healthy person. then wait, get together outside the law and band together.

this means you physicians have to risk your licenses and practice illegal outside of the office if you want to help. under threat of death and torture for selling out to the state - I think the punishment of giving up a civilian to a demonic government should be live cannibalism while raw. the horror would be strong enough to fight the laws command.

but LIE PEOPLE!!!!.

they cannot control our souls, they can mark our answers, stand against us in the street, kill us, maim us, make our beliefs illegal, regular our lives even. but they cant control us.

you can lie to them. just as god didnt know where adam was in the garden, big brother wont know your sad if you smile real big and lie to them about everything.

its bad if you follow the lie into blissful oblivion, but its good if you lie to them and then wait until your day comes.
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Cool story bro? damned
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as a chiropractor, I can tell you not a single person, professional or trade magazine, newletter has responded to what it means for us. I am sure it is the end of our already dwindling profession. Lower and lower insurance reimbursements will pale in comparison to what is coming. Nothing good has ever come from govt regulation of any industry, ours is already on the ropes in so many ways this will just be the ender more than likely.
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I have always taken care of myself, but at the age of 38, I have Lupus and COPD...(asbestos and second hand smoke related)

My children and I are currently on Medicaid...I need a lot of meds during the month because I get sick at the drop of a hat...so am I just going to be left for dead? I can't work because I'm too ill most of the time and have even gotten fired from jobs for taking too many sick days)

What's going to happen to me?
What's going to happen to others like me?
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Read up here on Action T4.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

When someone is trying to push abortion on people and cite an example like, "What if the baby is blind, physically and mentally retarded and will die in a few days?"

Those people have never read up on Action T4, because that is how it started. A woman wrote Hitler asking for a mercy killing of her child who was blind and mentally/physically retarded. Hitler thought it was a good idea, and decided to perform this 'operation' on others who requested it. Soon, people stopped requesting it, and that is when the government started mandating it. They expanded from babies to mentally ill adults.

If you ever wondered how the Nazis became so efficient at genocide, the answer is because they spent over a decade perfecting it on their own citizens.

But to answer your question, any sick person will be seen as cost, and cost must be eliminated. This was the mentality of the T4 program. If you click the link, you'll see a poster of a mentally ill man with this tagline...

This poster (from around 1938) reads: "60,000 Reichsmarks is what this person suffering from a hereditary defect costs the People's community during his lifetime. Fellow citizen, that is your money too. Read '[A] New People', the monthly magazine of the Bureau for Race Politics of the NSDAP."

If I were you, I'd be looking into natural treatments and diets to help you. Good health starts with good nutrition. Supplements should be used in addition to good diets - not in place of them. Your goal is to get healthy enough to get 'care' if you want it. There will be a cut off line though. There always is one. There's a reason why they call it health care instead of health cures.

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anything that makes us less like Australia is a good thing
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When my doctor asks me all of that stuff i'm going to tell him to kindly fuck off.
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omg, i was just thinking the same thing.

Doctors are paid to give answer not ask me fucking guestionS!
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Why not answer with: "I prefer not to provide an answer to that question"...let you doctor write that answer down, don't abuse the doctor because of it!
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I plan on saying "I pled the 5th amendment"
I like my Dr, and none of this is his fault.
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Do we still have a constitution?!
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Fuck Obama.
Fuck Obamacare.
Fuck this government.
And double-fuck the evil fucks that voted for him.
Fucking TWICE!

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omg, i was just thinking the same thing.

Doctors are paid to give answer not ask me fucking guestionS!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27810974


Why not answer with: "I prefer not to provide an answer to that question"...let you doctor write that answer down, don't abuse the doctor because of it!
 Quoting: wisernow


I plan on saying "I pled the 5th amendment"
I like my Dr, and none of this is his fault.
 Quoting: no-one-special


Do we still have a constitution?!
 Quoting: black calx


I would say NO!! Here is why. Once censorship begins you are no longer free and the constitution is a thing of the past! CENSORSHIP HAS ALREADY BEGUN!! We have seen this in all national news media stations on everything from election coverage to not telling us exactly what laws are being passed to certain parts of a law not being covered.

All news has already begun being censored!!! FOX is the controlled opposition!! Again CONTROLLED!!!
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When my doctor asks me all of that stuff i'm going to tell him to kindly fuck off.
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No honey.....that is not the way. It will only bring retribution, retaliation or no care.

LIE YOUR ASS OFF AND TELL THEM WHAT THEY WANT TO HEAR
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I want a clear answer as to whether or not we get fined if we refuse to purchase insurance.

I'm confused from articles I've read because some say yes and some say no.

Is it true that ObamaCare forces people to buy health insurance?


This is straight from the law itself, under section 5000a, page 131:

‘‘(2) SPECIAL RULES.—Notwithstanding any other provision of law—
‘‘(A) WAIVER OF CRIMINAL PENALTIES.—In the case of any failure by a taxpayer to timely pay any penalty imposed by this section, such taxpayer shall not be subject to any criminal prosecution or penalty with respect to such failure.
‘‘(B) LIMITATIONS ON LIENS AND LEVIES.—The Secretary shall not—
‘‘(i) file notice of lien with respect to any property of a taxpayer by reason of any failure to pay the penalty imposed by this section, or
‘‘(ii) levy on any such property with respect to such failure.’’.

It's all there in black and white. Failure to pay the penalty for not acquiring health insurance will not subject you to any criminal penalties or jail time, and the Secretary of HHS cannot enforce the penalty with a lien or levy on your property. I'm looking forward to seeing what happens when people use this provision to get out of paying the penalty.


Read more here:

[link to answers.yahoo.com]

Am I forced to buy health insurance?

Yes, you will be mandated to buy health insurance... if you don't buy it, your will be fined, if you don't pay the fine, the IRS , and yes, the IRS is the enforcement agency for this mandate, will garnish your wages, seize assets, etc.etc....

Read more here:

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LIE YOUR ASS OFF....AFTER ALL THAT IS WHAT THEY DO.

PLAY THEIR GAME WITH THIER RULES.....

THE NEW NORMAL IS TO LIE YOUR ASS OFF.
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Why not answer with: "I prefer not to provide an answer to that question"...let you doctor write that answer down, don't abuse the doctor because of it!
 Quoting: wisernow


I plan on saying "I pled the 5th amendment"
I like my Dr, and none of this is his fault.
 Quoting: no-one-special


Do we still have a constitution?!
 Quoting: black calx


I would say NO!! Here is why. Once censorship begins you are no longer free and the constitution is a thing of the past! CENSORSHIP HAS ALREADY BEGUN!! We have seen this in all national news media stations on everything from election coverage to not telling us exactly what laws are being passed to certain parts of a law not being covered.

All news has already begun being censored!!! FOX is the controlled opposition!! Again CONTROLLED!!!
 Quoting: Wolverine


I'd also add that (in addition to censorship) we have lost knowledge of the constitution. It is not taught in schools, and people have no clue what their rights are and aren't.

Example - freedom of religion - not freedom from religion.

When more people think that we have a right to health care and a right to a mortgage over a right to bear arms, then the constitution has no power.
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I want a clear answer as to whether or not we get fined if we refuse to purchase insurance.

I'm confused from articles I've read because some say yes and some say no.

Is it true that ObamaCare forces people to buy health insurance?


This is straight from the law itself, under section 5000a, page 131:

‘‘(2) SPECIAL RULES.—Notwithstanding any other provision of law—
‘‘(A) WAIVER OF CRIMINAL PENALTIES.—In the case of any failure by a taxpayer to timely pay any penalty imposed by this section, such taxpayer shall not be subject to any criminal prosecution or penalty with respect to such failure.
‘‘(B) LIMITATIONS ON LIENS AND LEVIES.—The Secretary shall not—
‘‘(i) file notice of lien with respect to any property of a taxpayer by reason of any failure to pay the penalty imposed by this section, or
‘‘(ii) levy on any such property with respect to such failure.’’.

It's all there in black and white. Failure to pay the penalty for not acquiring health insurance will not subject you to any criminal penalties or jail time, and the Secretary of HHS cannot enforce the penalty with a lien or levy on your property. I'm looking forward to seeing what happens when people use this provision to get out of paying the penalty.


Read more here:

[link to answers.yahoo.com]

Am I forced to buy health insurance?

Yes, you will be mandated to buy health insurance... if you don't buy it, your will be fined, if you don't pay the fine, the IRS , and yes, the IRS is the enforcement agency for this mandate, will garnish your wages, seize assets, etc.etc....

Read more here:

[link to answers.yahoo.com]
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I wanna know if these annual "checkups" are mandatory........
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If I'm stuck with ObaaamaCare my Doctor told me that he'll dump me as a patient. No Medicaid, No Medicare and especially No ObamaCare excepted , out of pocket only. My diagosis, I'm terminally screwed.
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I want a clear answer as to whether or not we get fined if we refuse to purchase insurance.

I'm confused from articles I've read because some say yes and some say no.

Is it true that ObamaCare forces people to buy health insurance?


This is straight from the law itself, under section 5000a, page 131:

‘‘(2) SPECIAL RULES.—Notwithstanding any other provision of law—
‘‘(A) WAIVER OF CRIMINAL PENALTIES.—In the case of any failure by a taxpayer to timely pay any penalty imposed by this section, such taxpayer shall not be subject to any criminal prosecution or penalty with respect to such failure.
‘‘(B) LIMITATIONS ON LIENS AND LEVIES.—The Secretary shall not—
‘‘(i) file notice of lien with respect to any property of a taxpayer by reason of any failure to pay the penalty imposed by this section, or
‘‘(ii) levy on any such property with respect to such failure.’’.

It's all there in black and white. Failure to pay the penalty for not acquiring health insurance will not subject you to any criminal penalties or jail time, and the Secretary of HHS cannot enforce the penalty with a lien or levy on your property. I'm looking forward to seeing what happens when people use this provision to get out of paying the penalty.


Read more here:

[link to answers.yahoo.com]

Am I forced to buy health insurance?

Yes, you will be mandated to buy health insurance... if you don't buy it, your will be fined, if you don't pay the fine, the IRS , and yes, the IRS is the enforcement agency for this mandate, will garnish your wages, seize assets, etc.etc....

Read more here:

[link to answers.yahoo.com]
 Quoting: KoFFee_


I wanna know if these annual "checkups" are mandatory........
 Quoting: ajk


I've wondered about that, too. I tried looking up info before and couldn't find anything.

Does anybody know?
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the Lord Jesus has given me—the task of testifying to the good news of God’s grace. Acts 20:24

"This man really is the Savior of the world!" John 4:42

Look, he is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see him, even those who pierced him;
and all the peoples of the earth will mourn because of him. So shall it be! Amen.
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As a nurse looking to go into advanced training to become a primary care giver, ARNP, I want to branch out and away from this law. I figure I will do private care and house calls and charge cash, bypassing this crap. With advanced diagnostic machinery that do blood work and imaging you can pack it all in a little travel case nowadays. I propose moving forward by going back to the values that made small town docs great years ago, providing personal care and front door service. This is my dream, time will tell.
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YOU GO!!! Best of luck, maybe for all our sakes!
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Who has actually read any of the Obama Care rules and Regulations. We haven't seen anything yet. Remember we have to pass it to know what is in it. WAKE UP AMERICA.
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I still can't believe NO ONE noticed that from Pelosi. If that didn't wake up people what the hell will???

Oh and to the person saying he or she won't darken a doctor's door......I am not sure if that will be possible from this. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but this "annual" visit is going to be mandatory isn't it? If it is, I may just flat refuse to go, fuck them and their shit.
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I READ it...and I shared it...and told everyone I could what was going to happen..pretty much they called me chicken little...claiming the sky was falling...idiots...I washed my hands of it...you reap what you sow...unfortunately, it affects everyone and not just the entitlement tards...;(

ETA>>>funny thing tho..all the people who were pushing for shammycare have since shut their pieholes...they have absolutely nothing to say...because they know it is not what they thought it would be...now, I just sit and laugh and laugh at them...mwahahaha...because it is the only consolation I have about this whole travesty...;(

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If I was to liken America to anything. This story comes closest!!!

Up in the arctic circle there is tribe of Eskimo's who have learned to set a very simple yet effective trap for wolves. First they sharpen a knife razor sharp. Then they dip it in the blood of a seal they have killed. (you see seals are fairly easy to trap but wolves are very dangerous). After dipping the knife in blood they set it outside in the cold so the blood freezes on the knife. After if freezes (a matter of minutes) they dip it again into the seal blood and again take it out an let the blood freeze. Layer after layer they make a blood popsicle. When they are done, the knife's blade is hidden inside just like a popsicle stick. Now they
take the knife out into the wilderness where they think a wolf might be. There they bury the handle of the knife in the snow leaving the blood popsicle standing up and they leave.

Now after a while a wolf will come along guided by his sense of smell and find the "bloodsicle". He will being licking it, enjoying every taste. Over and over he licks the knife and soon his tongue is so cold he cannot feel it any longer. It's numb. But his taste for blood is growing and he
is not getting as much as he wants - you see, popsicles are slow eating. Finally his licking exposes the razor sharp edge of the knife. It cuts into his tongue again and again but he does not even notice for his tongue can no longer feel anything. The wolfs own blood now flows from his cut
tongue. The wolf is thrilled, blood is now more plentiful and he continues to lick more and more.

Soon he notices something is wrong, he is getting weaker not stronger. Since he knows blood as food he increases his efforts to feed on the ever increasing flow of blood. His last thoughts are of how good the now warm blood tastes. Within minutes he licks his last and collapse next to the
now fully exposed knife. Here the Eskimo knows he will find the wolfs body the next morning.


PEOPLE WE HAVE BEEN LICKING THE KNIFE FOR A FEW YEARS NOW!! WE ARE BLEEDING SLOWLY BUT THE BLEED HAS ALREADY BEGUN!!
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cool story bro,

but it has nothing to do with healthcare
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It absolutely does. The healthcare has to do with America and where we are going and the story directly relates to America. The healthcare bill is just another way of making us bleed!! It is directly related!
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Personally, I thought it was a great analogy.
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As a nurse looking to go into advanced training to become a primary care giver, ARNP, I want to branch out and away from this law. I figure I will do private care and house calls and charge cash, bypassing this crap. With advanced diagnostic machinery that do blood work and imaging you can pack it all in a little travel case nowadays. I propose moving forward by going back to the values that made small town docs great years ago, providing personal care and front door service. This is my dream, time will tell.
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If you want to practice medicine you should go to a Medical School. Nurses giving medical advice, ordering tests and prescribing medicine...... Christ what's next, automobile drivers flying jets. Seriously.
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as a chiropractor, I can tell you not a single person, professional or trade magazine, newletter has responded to what it means for us. I am sure it is the end of our already dwindling profession. Lower and lower insurance reimbursements will pale in comparison to what is coming. Nothing good has ever come from govt regulation of any industry, ours is already on the ropes in so many ways this will just be the ender more than likely.
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Sorry for you and your profession. This is really so wrong.
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Full List of Obamacare Tax Hikes

Obamacare law contains 20 new or higher taxes on American families and small businesses

Taxpayers are reminded that the President’s healthcare law is one of the largest tax increases in American history.

Obamacare contains 20 new or higher taxes on American families and small businesses.

Arranged by their respective effective dates, below is the total list of all $500 billion-plus in tax hikes (over the next ten years) in Obamacare, where to find them in the bill, and how much your taxes are scheduled to go up as of today:


Check it out here:

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As a nurse looking to go into advanced training to become a primary care giver, ARNP, I want to branch out and away from this law. I figure I will do private care and house calls and charge cash, bypassing this crap. With advanced diagnostic machinery that do blood work and imaging you can pack it all in a little travel case nowadays. I propose moving forward by going back to the values that made small town docs great years ago, providing personal care and front door service. This is my dream, time will tell.
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That's a fine idea, but eventually under the single payer model your plan will be blocked.
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If you want to practice medicine you should go to a Medical School. Nurses giving medical advice, ordering tests and prescribing medicine...... Christ what's next, automobile drivers flying jets. Seriously.
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You'll be surprised how many will need and you may even need "alternative" care yourself someday.....so don't be to quick to knock it. Soon there will be a huge underground black market for healthcare.
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My brother (who is an internist/nephrologist) told me that it is unbelievable what Obamacare is requiring that they glean from their patients for their "electronic files". Basically it comes down to this: the gov't is gonna know who can afford private insurance and will force them to spread their wealth to those who chose not to contribute by charging the privateers astronomical premiums/costs.
He is sick about it.
He was forced to install a $18,000 electronic system to cowtow to Obamacare, and they make it almost impossible to qualify for reimbursement costs. What a crock!!
He said he is going to retire soon (he is in his prime) b/c there is no more freedom for supposedly free-enterprise (which is why he started his own private practice to begin with.)
He will be laying off 6 honest office workers as a consequence. Thanks, Obama! Your care is at work!
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I would like to hear more personal stories from medical personnel and professionals, because I have no idea what we are in for.

I have a hard time wrapping my head around it.

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You'll be surprised how many will need and you may even need "alternative" care yourself someday.....so don't be to quick to knock it. Soon there will be a huge underground black market for healthcare.
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Especially when they regulate those dangerous vitamins and deadly supplements.
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as a chiropractor, I can tell you not a single person, professional or trade magazine, newletter has responded to what it means for us. I am sure it is the end of our already dwindling profession. Lower and lower insurance reimbursements will pale in comparison to what is coming. Nothing good has ever come from govt regulation of any industry, ours is already on the ropes in so many ways this will just be the ender more than likely.
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Chiroquacktery is already a scam in itself
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With a uniform health care system bad science policies can be adopted. Look at low fat diets and how that faulty "science" became entrenched:
[link to www.nytimes.com] became the norm.


Here they are stopping everyone who is using cannabis legally from getting pain control. You have to choose cannabis or opiates. Despite real science showing that the combination is benefical because it reduces the amount of opiates required:
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Without independant, original people to purse unpopular research, how is medical science going to progress?

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