HOW can you possibly believe in December 21, 2012 when there is no SHED of proof of anything happening on that day...

Why do i believe something will happen?
Because of experience.

How much my body has changed, spirit communication and visions. I understand what these cultures meant by this time period because i reestablished my connection & most of you dont even know it exists.

That date is just a point, nothing more. Its the period we are already in and have been in some time, after this point things will begin to get more intense and continue to do so. But that doesn't mean anything will happen on that day, other than a Soliste.

If you where to be concearned about anything, it would be about the potential for a false flag that day! The amount of bullshit been fed to us about this date is ridiculous.

Oh and expect a pole shift around mid 2013 :P

So maybe not exactly ON the 21st, but definitely FROM that day on, probably soon after that between now and spring 2013...

The fact is, the elite have underground bunkers. Which would not be a smart move in the event of earthquakes or flooding. What if its the very force of "gravity" that gets disturbed?

Modern science has admitted that it does not understand the forces of gravity. Perhaps the elite know more about these forces than what is released to the masses.

and not if Spring 2013.....what then? simply a new date OR a realization that no one or no event is coming to the rescue. we live. we die. we move on.

We get oppressed! Badly paid! Prostitute ourselves. And pay prostitutes to lie to us...

But the other date will be January 2014 as per Tolec.

Beyond that, it is 2016. Though Bashar has said 2030.

You can choose.

But they say that 21 of December of 2012 is at least: birth of a New Earth positively oriented for the most part.

Bend over, face the east and praise the lord!!

What are you so mad about?

For me, I had a personal experience that woke me up about 2012. It's too long of a story to write here. I researched it after that, and you are right there really is no "proof" of anything and everybody is saying something different and contradicting each other. So yeah, if I hadn't had that personal experience, I probably wouldn't have believed it either. I still have doubts until it actually happens.

My personal experience had to do with Pi and the cycle of time. After my experience, everything that happened and everything that I researched seemed to confirm my personal experience, that something amazing is going to happen!

I don't know exactly what will happen, but I don't think it is the "end of the world" but the end of an era and the beginning of a new one. It's the 26,000 year precession. So I'm excited to see what it actually all means. I hope it means an awakening of consciousness.

I don't understand why everyone has not been given a similar experience to prepare them, but my feeling is that the date is a 'marker' or tipping point for a major awaking of most of the population.

My understanding is that everyone will be given the choice that I was given...

"Do you choose life, or destruction?"

I hope everybody chooses life and love, including you! It doesn't matter when it happens to you even if it is at the last possible minute, but I hope my message to you will prepare you for what you might experience.

Much love to you.

Apparently OP doesn't live in the U.S. ? He isn't feeling the doom most of us have felt since the re election has he?

Honestly, I feel something is going to happen as I see how the US is so in debt and everything is changing - Obama changing everything. I think everything is preparing for the NWO. I think by what I read, some disasters are going to happen. I'm going to be cautious of my surroundings. I'm a Christian, so I'm hoping the rapture happens before the NWO takes over etc. but if not, I'm going to try to stay positive and be strong no matter what.