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Marriage Strike is Official: Men Opting out.

 
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i disagree dude;


i realize that most trolls are dudes,

and if you notice this troll is lashing out at a woman,

trolls are sexually frustrated young dudes that cant get a woman;


He's young and misunderstood.






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Why don't you try adding child molestation to the conversation and keep talking too me from thread to thread? You respond to everyone's posts and always debate and always leave a comment that makes sense.

You're fantastic.
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thanks bitch, sounds like i got a fan
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22899606


Dude, lowest of the low is changing somebody else's post.
It should be a ban-able offense.


Just go back from where you came, OK?
Your brand of anger and hate is not welcome here.
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Men , yes we have our problems. Porn , beer, gambling, golf,etc.But we just need women to be a woman.Most women don't even cook anymore.Every man who has been married over lets say 7 years will attest that women get shitty about sex.
Who cares if they don't cook anymore but when ya shut them legs, things get bad for us. We are simple creatures, men, and our needs basically stay the same. We don't ask for much.
And WE DON"T LOSE OUR FUCKING MINDS AFTER WE TURN 50 !

beerhat longhair
 Quoting: SuperNova1


One thing I learned in Church this past year...

Sex for a man is the equivalent of talking for a woman. So, say you're a woman and your husband doesn't talk to you for a day, three days, a week, month, year? How would that make you feel? Pretty freaking shitty.

Same thing for a man with sex...Men NEED sex as much as we need communication. It is cruel to not please your husband as often as he needs pleased.

Yes, I said I learned it in Church! :-) Before my almost ex husband went insane, we attended church and this was taught in a Love and Marriage class.

Of course, I am willing, lol, but I didn't realize...In marriage, both partners have to be willing to put the other first. It never works with one person being selfish...
 Quoting: StormeyGoddess


my ex didn't like to eat leftovers, but expected me to make her a long thought out meal daily. I'd never expect that from anyone.

Sex is sex, on a certain level it is needed. But the problem is when we aren't on the same page, sex is a chore. Then it gets to the point where if it's happening you wonder, OK what does she want me to do? It's like they use it as a bargaining chip.

I don't expect to be in a relationship anytime soon. Who knows though...
"a foundation built on lies is always bound to crumble and those who aren't humble shall tumble to the earth"
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There is no point to marriage. 12 years with my gf, 2 boys and no way in hell we're getting married!
We've agreed that maybe as a 50th anniversary gift we'll do it to say thank you...38 years to go!!!!
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sex is another major issue;


most of us dudes are just the boring regular nice guy,

we arent the guy women all swoon over.

And as i have found now, women that are with us have "settled for us" ie they think they are doing us a favor just by being with us,

because they couldnt get the Alpha male Bad Boy that they really wanted to settle down with.

So, these women are with us, but 'they dont really WANT us'

so the sex with us is a chore to produce children,


and the naughty kinky sex that they had when they were being screwed by their Thug BAD BOYs is strictly off limits.


google MGTOW






Men , yes we have our problems. Porn , beer, gambling, golf,etc.But we just need women to be a woman.Most women don't even cook anymore.Every man who has been married over lets say 7 years will attest that women get shitty about sex.
Who cares if they don't cook anymore but when ya shut them legs, things get bad for us. We are simple creatures, men, and our needs basically stay the same. We don't ask for much.
And WE DON"T LOSE OUR FUCKING MINDS AFTER WE TURN 50 !

beerhat longhair
 Quoting: SuperNova1


One thing I learned in Church this past year...

Sex for a man is the equivalent of talking for a woman. So, say you're a woman and your husband doesn't talk to you for a day, three days, a week, month, year? How would that make you feel? Pretty freaking shitty.

Same thing for a man with sex...Men NEED sex as much as we need communication. It is cruel to not please your husband as often as he needs pleased.

Yes, I said I learned it in Church! :-) Before my almost ex husband went insane, we attended church and this was taught in a Love and Marriage class.

Of course, I am willing, lol, but I didn't realize...In marriage, both partners have to be willing to put the other first. It never works with one person being selfish...
 Quoting: StormeyGoddess


my ex didn't like to eat leftovers, but expected me to make her a long thought out meal daily. I'd never expect that from anyone.

Sex is sex, on a certain level it is needed. But the problem is when we aren't on the same page, sex is a chore. Then it gets to the point where if it's happening you wonder, OK what does she want me to do? It's like they use it as a bargaining chip.

I don't expect to be in a relationship anytime soon. Who knows though...
 Quoting: acegotflows
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bump
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There is no point to marriage. 12 years with my gf, 2 boys and no way in hell we're getting married!
We've agreed that maybe as a 50th anniversary gift we'll do it to say thank you...38 years to go!!!!
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careful they might have that common law marriage shit there
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Why don't you try adding child molestation to the conversation and keep talking too me from thread to thread? You respond to everyone's posts and always debate and always leave a comment that makes sense.

You're fantastic.
 Quoting: Debauchery


thanks bitch, sounds like i got a fan
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22899606


Dude, lowest of the low is changing somebody else's post.
It should be a ban-able offense.


Just go back from where you came, OK?
Your brand of anger and hate is not welcome here.
 Quoting: wisc_natureboy


It should be a ban-able offense especially when someone changes the original post to make it seem as though the person were making light of child molestation. I don't want my name attached to that kind of sick and twisted garbage.
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my ex didn't like to eat leftovers

OMG, I thought this said, "my ex didn't like to eat flowers."

I really do have to sleep, been fun guys!
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There is no point to marriage. 12 years with my gf, 2 boys and no way in hell we're getting married!
We've agreed that maybe as a 50th anniversary gift we'll do it to say thank you...38 years to go!!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28428680


There is a point to marriage - they're called
Children.

It is an institution for raising humans.

Don't wanna raise - then

DON'T GRAZE!
I AM THAT I AM IN ALL THAT YOU ARE, IN YOU I LIVE AND MOVE AND HAVE MY BEING EVERMORE
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The cost of living skyrocketing and inflation because of wreck-less gov't money printing. The lack of time available for kids because parents are both working full time and beyond, child support, alimony, car insurance, mortgage payments, flood insurance, mandated health insurance, home owners insurance, property insurance, liability insurance, property taxes with 2% limitation increases a year. Indefinite surveillance, excessive charges, tolls, surcharges for minimal legal infractions. Hell even a Red light ticket is a 2 point increase.


The only real marriage taking place is between citizens to indefinite debt and unrealistic living circumstances along with unimaginable costly expenses.

In a recent conversation, I expressed,"Its almost like you have to stand still in this society, because if you move, your most likely stepping over a financial land mine."

The dominos are falling and the citizens look at each other? What are we to do? Support the failed state that has so greatly improved our living conditions?

Sometimes we perceive to see a flower, but even some flowers are weeds.

The gov't has created a monopoly that extracts everything, but the blood from the common citizens veins and then you expect us to marry and live a fruitious life with a partner in the same dire circumstances?
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Hey, Debauchery? That Fuckbag is doing that to your posts EVERYWHERE!!!!! Just went to the "what's your name mean?" thread...he's done it there too, babe! Watch out!
"Don't look back, you're not going that way."

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Waaaahhhh!!!!

Life is hard and women won't do what I want, like stay in the kitchen and suck my dick twelve hours a day. It was better back when they didn't have rights and you could just beat them into submission!

I want the Old times back. Boo-Hoo!

(That was sarcastic, in case anyone that has problems taking emotional cues from words needs the help processing it.)

Not that I disagree totally with the article, but it had an undertone of "boo-hoo" to it that was off-putting.

People will do what they want, either you choose to adapt to it, or you don't.

It's the only answer we're going to get.
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You are totally missing the point, and acting like a spoiled brat in the process.

My oldest is a very accomplished young man of 26. He will be a millionaire in a few years. But he will never get married. The reason is divorce is devastating for successful men. The woman can have an affair, make more than the man, and the courts will award the woman alimony and child support, because the courts are so biased.

We act like we can go on like we have for the past 20 years or so and there will not be any ramifications.

The government can finance its spending with record deficits. We say no ramifications.

Courts can fault the man in divorce, even if it was the woman who had the affair. We say no ramifications.

We can elect a radical socialist Kenyan without a birth certificate, who proceeds to purge the top layers of the military, after bringing the Muslim Brotherhood to power in every major Arab country. We say no consequences.

Obamacare can foist major new expenses on job creators. We say no ramifications. We can kill babies for birth control.

There will be ramifications. And people who see the ramifications coming and are preparing for them will be blamed as the bad guys when TSHTF. Because the deluded liberals will not like their own ramifications.
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There is no point to marriage. 12 years with my gf, 2 boys and no way in hell we're getting married!
We've agreed that maybe as a 50th anniversary gift we'll do it to say thank you...38 years to go!!!!
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There is a point to marriage - they're called
Children.

It is an institution for raising humans.

Don't wanna raise - then

DON'T GRAZE!
 Quoting: TenStar'd


Raising ours just fine without marriage. In fact, we're raising them better than our married (and in most cases, divorced) friends do.
Having a certificate does NOT make you a parent...hard work and love does!! :-)
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In my case it was her thinking I'm something I'm not. She figured me to be the bad boy. I'm just the non-conformer. I'm not bad by choice, but by circumstance. I'm not that guy they swoon over, I'm that guy that understands them. That's even worse.

They enjoy sex with me, but this is what happens. I don't do what they want or act how they like, they hold it out. I don't bite and leave them alone, they get mad. They get mad so I spend my time elsewhere, probably online. They think I'm cheating. I say how can I cheat when you see me and know I'm not going anywhere? They get perplexed because I have taken all their tools of control out of play. The last thing they have is to pick a fight or blame me for stuff that isn't my fault. My experience has been that they don't tell you what you are walking in to, but want to use that stuff against you and blame you like you made it that way. I just don't play along

sex is another major issue;


most of us dudes are just the boring regular nice guy,

we arent the guy women all swoon over.

And as i have found now, women that are with us have "settled for us" ie they think they are doing us a favor just by being with us,

because they couldnt get the Alpha male Bad Boy that they really wanted to settle down with.

So, these women are with us, but 'they dont really WANT us'

so the sex with us is a chore to produce children,


and the naughty kinky sex that they had when they were being screwed by their Thug BAD BOYs is strictly off limits.


google MGTOW






Men , yes we have our problems. Porn , beer, gambling, golf,etc.But we just need women to be a woman.Most women don't even cook anymore.Every man who has been married over lets say 7 years will attest that women get shitty about sex.
Who cares if they don't cook anymore but when ya shut them legs, things get bad for us. We are simple creatures, men, and our needs basically stay the same. We don't ask for much.
And WE DON"T LOSE OUR FUCKING MINDS AFTER WE TURN 50 !

beerhat longhair
 Quoting: SuperNova1


One thing I learned in Church this past year...

Sex for a man is the equivalent of talking for a woman. So, say you're a woman and your husband doesn't talk to you for a day, three days, a week, month, year? How would that make you feel? Pretty freaking shitty.

Same thing for a man with sex...Men NEED sex as much as we need communication. It is cruel to not please your husband as often as he needs pleased.

Yes, I said I learned it in Church! :-) Before my almost ex husband went insane, we attended church and this was taught in a Love and Marriage class.

Of course, I am willing, lol, but I didn't realize...In marriage, both partners have to be willing to put the other first. It never works with one person being selfish...
 Quoting: StormeyGoddess


my ex didn't like to eat leftovers, but expected me to make her a long thought out meal daily. I'd never expect that from anyone.

Sex is sex, on a certain level it is needed. But the problem is when we aren't on the same page, sex is a chore. Then it gets to the point where if it's happening you wonder, OK what does she want me to do? It's like they use it as a bargaining chip.

I don't expect to be in a relationship anytime soon. Who knows though...
 Quoting: acegotflows

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"a foundation built on lies is always bound to crumble and those who aren't humble shall tumble to the earth"
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Sometimes we perceive to see a flower, but even some flowers are weeds.
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I like dandelions, their flowers are a beautiful contrast
to the green lawns of complacency. ;-`)

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Who can blame them. If a marriage breaks up and there are kids involved, the male invariably gets shafted. Many lose everything. Better by far to stay away from the church/regiset office/whatever. OK, so you'll not have access to your kids if it breaks up, but who does after marriage failure.

Given the way the system sides with the ex-wife/ mother, it's a no brainer.
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The numbers do not lie.

over 50% of marriages fail

70% or better of divorces are filed by women.


Of the 40-50% of marriages that survive, almost 80% of those had infidelity. ( mostly by women)

Also of those marriages, how many are together for kids or money and are truly not happy?


Overall, 90% of marriges fail, or you can seee the look of misery on the men still in them.

Countless men have been destroyed financially and mentally by marriage as it stands today.


Bottom line, as some other posters mentioned. Google MGTOW, as a man that has gone through the hell..... I wish this on no man.... none.

Protect yourself. As for the 10% that are happy and still married. Good for you, and god bless. But please dont let men walk into the trap, they will most likley get destroyed.

Many women that stayed on the cock carousal into their 30's are finding out what spinsterhood is all about, this year a record was set for how many women over 40 are single and will now have to get the obligatory " death" cat to keep them into their old age. Cant say I feel sorry for them.
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There is no point to marriage. 12 years with my gf, 2 boys and no way in hell we're getting married!
We've agreed that maybe as a 50th anniversary gift we'll do it to say thank you...38 years to go!!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28428680


There is a point to marriage - they're called
Children.

It is an institution for raising humans.

Don't wanna raise - then

DON'T GRAZE!
 Quoting: TenStar'd


Raising ours just fine without marriage. In fact, we're raising them better than our married (and in most cases, divorced) friends do.
Having a certificate does NOT make you a parent...hard work and love does!! :-)
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religions lie, they teach false concepts. Reproduction is a concept they have totally brainwashed with. Real reproduction is positive thoughts that lead to ideas that grow into movements and foundational theories. Children on the other hand were for war and work. That's basically it. Look at the Bible and you will see that those are more what having children was about than anything.

I think it's a false concept that we have been taught with one person being it for you is not human nature. I'd go so far to say that it is part of the programming that keeps us on a lower level vibration, where love becomes obsession over a person to the point where we take ownership of things that aren't ours, and perceive ownership over people that aren't ours either.

Marriage is a business, not a loving natural thing. Sad but true...
"a foundation built on lies is always bound to crumble and those who aren't humble shall tumble to the earth"
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To engage in a contract, that guarantees a bitch half your shit, is absurd...I don't really believe in prenuptial agreements, because that's like planning your divorce before your wedding...but, if the whore don't make money, then beware!
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A believer in Edward Bernays, taxation, public relations, and propaganda, I see.
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Waaaahhhh!!!!

Life is hard and women won't do what I want, like stay in the kitchen and suck my dick twelve hours a day. It was better back when they didn't have rights and you could just beat them into submission!

I want the Old times back. Boo-Hoo!

(That was sarcastic, in case anyone that has problems taking emotional cues from words needs the help processing it.)

Not that I disagree totally with the article, but it had an undertone of "boo-hoo" to it that was off-putting.

People will do what they want, either you choose to adapt to it, or you don't.

It's the only answer we're going to get.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 536600


And just like clockwork, we can always depend on some brainless fucktard (like yourself) to take a very real issue, and try to attach all kinds of pure bullshit to it, in order to keep the illusion going.

Give it up, reatard. Men are waking up to your bullshit by the millions.
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Marriage was fine until the criminal corrupt illegal governments got involved in it.
Now you are hijacked before you even begin imagine needing a fucking license from the criminal government to get married what an absurd thought.
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But the other problem is these days you don't even need to get married, just live together, and all the same corrupt criminal government rules apply.
Our society is truly doomed our existence can not possibly go on much longer.
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To engage in a contract, that guarantees a bitch half your shit, is absurd...I don't really believe in prenuptial agreements, because that's like planning your divorce before your wedding...but, if the whore don't make money, then beware!
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You deserve to be had if you consider women whore's.
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You deserve to be deceived, since you obviously LOVE delusion.
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I can't find a single woman with to engage in an intellectual conversation. But I'm sure spiritual and emotionally intelligent women will say the same thing about men.

The majority of people on this dirt and briny seas ball are idiots. Finding a gem in a coal mine is more like it. Good luck to the lonely. As for me I have no intention of dating ever again. I'm done and I'm fine with that. I'm just trying to find some inner calm before I pass on to what's next.

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marriage is for suckers that ultimately get what they deserve
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Waaaahhhh!!!!

Life is hard and women won't do what I want, like stay in the kitchen and suck my dick twelve hours a day. It was better back when they didn't have rights and you could just beat them into submission!

I want the Old times back. Boo-Hoo!

(That was sarcastic, in case anyone that has problems taking emotional cues from words needs the help processing it.)

Not that I disagree totally with the article, but it had an undertone of "boo-hoo" to it that was off-putting.

People will do what they want, either you choose to adapt to it, or you don't.

It's the only answer we're going to get.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 536600


And just like clockwork, we can always depend on some brainless fucktard (like yourself) to take a very real issue, and try to attach all kinds of pure bullshit to it, in order to keep the illusion going.

Give it up, reatard. Men are waking up to your bullshit by the millions.
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You just can't get laid. baby

<sarcasm>
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Waaaahhhh!!!!

Life is hard and women won't do what I want, like stay in the kitchen and suck my dick twelve hours a day. It was better back when they didn't have rights and you could just beat them into submission!

I want the Old times back. Boo-Hoo!

(That was sarcastic, in case anyone that has problems taking emotional cues from words needs the help processing it.)

Not that I disagree totally with the article, but it had an undertone of "boo-hoo" to it that was off-putting.

People will do what they want, either you choose to adapt to it, or you don't.

It's the only answer we're going to get.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 536600


And just like clockwork, we can always depend on some brainless fucktard (like yourself) to take a very real issue, and try to attach all kinds of pure bullshit to it, in order to keep the illusion going.

Give it up, reatard. Men are waking up to your bullshit by the millions.
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You just can't get laid. baby

<sarcasm>
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Anyone can get laid ffs what an immature response the most ugly fat people can buy a hooker putin
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Ha Ha Two Way Street I think. I'm in my forty's. Never got married or had kids. My sisters all older than me all got married 3 times each. I decided early on their was no way I was doing that. To messy getting out afterwards on both sides. All my sisters had good jobs and contributed lots to the financial good of the union but I know many in other circumstances where either one or the other did everything and the other did nothing and wanted everything. Go Figure.


Even in common law instances you can be taken to the cleaners. I have done quite well for myself and have alot of men look at me like a jackpot. I keep my own place because of it.

I would need someone with just as much as me to ever even consider cohabitating. I think you have to be equel for it too work and know exactely what everyone expects. I think alot of people don't talk about the issues before they get married and should. I think alot think if they bring up the icky stuff like money and expectations before hand then it won't happen for them. But thats the problem it happens too them alright but after the fact. LOL
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It's selfish and gold digging women who are not getting married by choice. The are having trouble finding men with high net worth that earn significantly more as well. They wanted to be equal but balk at any man making as much or slightly less than them.
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Waaaahhhh!!!!

Life is hard and women won't do what I want, like stay in the kitchen and suck my dick twelve hours a day. It was better back when they didn't have rights and you could just beat them into submission!

I want the Old times back. Boo-Hoo!

(That was sarcastic, in case anyone that has problems taking emotional cues from words needs the help processing it.)

Not that I disagree totally with the article, but it had an undertone of "boo-hoo" to it that was off-putting.

People will do what they want, either you choose to adapt to it, or you don't.

It's the only answer we're going to get.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 536600


And just like clockwork, we can always depend on some brainless fucktard (like yourself) to take a very real issue, and try to attach all kinds of pure bullshit to it, in order to keep the illusion going.

Give it up, reatard. Men are waking up to your bullshit by the millions.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28428457


You just can't get laid. baby

<sarcasm>
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21211135


Anyone can get laid ffs what an immature response the most ugly fat people can buy a hooker putin
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28378701


I know, but to them it's men wanting nothing more than sex.