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Why Wouldn't God Want Adam and Eve to Have Knowledge of Good and Evil? | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 25148952  United States11/25/2012 08:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 26616524  Thailand11/25/2012 08:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Possibly because they were already perfect(as we all are as awareness, complete - wholeness). The knowledge of good/evil creates duality, it is only the split mind of man that sees good or evil. Look at the animals, they just live life as we should in perfect wholeness. Honestly take a look at Nonduality if you are mature enough. |
Nemesis-incognitO  User ID: 28441531  United Kingdom11/25/2012 08:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ...It matters not what actual fruit if any the tree grew; for the tree was created and design by God Almighty, it was simply the trust that became tainted and was broken... ...Adam & Eve lost trust and disobeyed Divine instruction, just as Lucifer did when he refused to bow down... ...Once they had committed this act, they knew immediately of their error and tried to hide...and in fact were taught how to seek forgivness!!! Although we have all been put on earth for a 'Term Appointed' ...This tree and its fruit has been distorted and used to lead many astray, and still continues to do so! ...I am sure if God wanted to 'withhold' knowledge or such like then it would prove NO problem for Him Whatsoever!!!! ...We are all Slaves, so get over it and open your heart to Untainted Truth before this all ends and there will be no more chances There is Only One Truth |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 14717007  Canada11/25/2012 09:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If I build a robot and give it the ability to do good or bad things, then I am at fault for giving the robot this ability. I cannot blame the robot or punish it for making the choice that I allowed it to. The idea of being born of sin is a tool of religious cults to control the ability of individuals to see beyond. If there is a god and he wanted us to be perfect, why not just create us that way? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 28443664  South Africa11/25/2012 09:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | why is knowledge a sin? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1834146 seriously asking christians. not being rude. i just want to know why would having knowledge be a sin? why god would want us not to have knowledge. thanks in advance. Because to acquire this knowledge, means that you will have to make a choice, which in turn means those that that chose wrong will be destroyed. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27851254 United States11/25/2012 09:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | literally of His image. what we lack is proper Grace, and i believe that is why the fruit was forbidden. i have no proof, only my own discernment. |
| Perseus7 User ID: 28260886 United States11/27/2012 05:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 28485923 Canada11/27/2012 05:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes, so that the puppet masters(bible makers/Elite) could keep the truth away from the people so that they could do their dirty deeds in the dark just like they have done for thousands of years. They (ELITE) feared if we ever knew the truth then they would looses there rule and be stripped of their stature. religion = the ULTIMATE DIVIDE AND CONQURE religion must be stopped religion will be stopped some day many have woken up and eventually there won`t be enough religitards left to matter have a nice day |
| Jerichofall User ID: 16493366  Australia11/27/2012 06:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP you asked an excellent question. Father God Jehovah and His son Jesus/ Yah'shua (being one)want people to learn, in fact God is all about seeking wisdom. Proverbs 16:16 How much better is it to get wisdom than gold! and to get understanding rather to be chosen than silver! What God didn't want was people having knowledge of evil - they already had knowledge of good through the tree of life which is God/ Jesus. With knowledge of evil came jealousy, pride, hate, lust.. and so on. It also brought death in to the world. Just remember what the devil told Adam & Eve was a big fat LIE, and that same lie is believed by every occultist on the planet, that by gaining (secret) knowledge they can become 'as gods'. Instead, it will condemn them to damnation on judgment day where they will join the one who started this lie. Matt 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. 18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Psalm 119:165 Great peace have they which love thy law: and nothing shall offend them. Amos 8:11 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord GOD, that I will send a famine in the land, not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of hearing the words of the LORD: Ruth 1:1 Now it came to pass in the days when the judges ruled, that there was a famine in the land. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 28566964  Israel11/27/2012 06:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The tree of knowledge of Good and Evil/ The tree of Life Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28438864 The letter of the Law and the Spirit of the Law The Basis foundation and purpose of religion, spirituality should be Coming closer to God, repentance or in Hebrew called teshuva (which literally means returning), but commonly today we find people think it revolves around encouraging one to become more and more religious. The problem is that the definition of religion being emphasized is one of ethnicity and culture and has little if anything to do with real spirituality and drawing close to Heaven. The two Trees (and their ”fruits”) materialize as forms of information and knowledge (Dat) here on Earth. Elohim (G-d) created the Heavens and the Earth. Elohi”m (God as found in the story of creation) in Hebrew is equal in numerical value to the Hebrew word for “nature” (HaTeva). G-d is found in what is natural and normal. We lost contact with this, became distracted and lost by our continual ”eating of the forbidden fruit from the Tree of Knowledge, Good and Evil.” It is said in the beginning, Eve and Adam ate of the forbidden fruit in the Garden of Eden. This story for millennium been viewed as being literal. Any such reading of Biblical stories is a terrible injustice. Fables and stories are appropriate for children and adults who never mature. Yet, for those who seek to discover truth and the reality, we have to ”peel away the surface layers” in order to get fruit. read more IT IS VERY DEEP [link to godssecret.wordpress.com] FOR THOSE WHO WANT TO KNOW |
| ming User ID: 847148  Sweden11/27/2012 06:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | His plans are more complex. He couldv'e easily stopped it but he chose not to for a bigger reason. The sinful nature is the animal like nature. Everything that animals do we do after the disobedience of Adam and Eve. As well as not obeying him. Quoting: Semper Fi 6875630 He did more than not choose to stop it, he created the bloody tree in the first place, and the serpent, and their curiosity. He totally wanted it to happen. It's all part of his crazy experiment. Or that's what I'd say if I was a believer. lol. Out of this ugliness may come, Some day, so beautiful a flower, That men will wonder at that hour, Remembering smoke and flowerless slum, And ask-glimpsing the agony Of the slaves who wrestle to be free- 'But why were all the poets dumb?' -William Montgomerie So many gods, so many creeds, So many paths that wind and wind, While just the art of being kind Is all the sad world needs. -Ella Wheeler Wilcox |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 28568199  Portugal11/27/2012 06:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 28570752 United States11/27/2012 07:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | These replies are all WRONG. They obviously don't have wisdom in GOD. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 801546 The reason GOD punished Man for eating from the tree of knowledge of good and evil, actually had nothing to do with knowledge, good, OR evil. It was because Man was supposed to be on a STRICT, low calorie diet. The woman, Eve, craved some badass fruit from this tree, and once they started eating it, they couldn't stop. They got fat ass hell, and all they would do was eat this one fruit, from this tree, so God punished them. My take on it... It wasn't an apple that "Eve" took a bite out of but the meat from another animal. During the time when the Old Testament was written, people were soley to eat from the seed bearing trees... fruit, vegetables, seeds, legumes, etc. It was only until after the "fall" of man that a decree was issued that we were now able to eat meat. Look up, Jesus was part of the Essenes. The Essenes were thought to be vegetarians. Where the fall of man came from was when we started eating the flesh of another animal species. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 28069791 Thailand11/27/2012 07:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | why is knowledge a sin? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1834146 seriously asking christians. not being rude. i just want to know why would having knowledge be a sin? why god would want us not to have knowledge. thanks in advance. Because asking questions is naughty! Remember what the principal and senior teachers at boarding school used to say: "Don't question! Don't talk back!" Very naughty. Just listen and obey. Be good little naive servants. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 12544363 Canada11/27/2012 08:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The simple answer is love. People blame God for being a cop out. "why did he put the tree their?" "He wanted us to fall" Well if God didn't make the tree or the possibility of choice it wouldn't have been perfect love. Perfect love allows for these kinds of decisions. It's fear, disbelief and the human minds tendency to want to make its own choices that damn them. God said he's sorry. Not sorry that he gave human's the choice of evil, but sorry they actually went through it. He won't ever do this again. This possibility had to be played at least once, to remove all doubt in the higher realm's. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 10783814 United States11/27/2012 08:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i do try and seek it but i just want to understand. from my point of view it seems like god told them not to take the apple. and they should of just listened. but at the same time. why would you not want knowledge? thanks for the feedback. GOD is the creation force/mind of the creation He does not come down to two people and say any such thing. Its a STUPID DUMB STORY. Stop your flailing. We heard you the first 38 times. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 10783814 United States11/27/2012 08:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 12544363 Canada11/27/2012 08:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do ANY of you have children? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10783814 Do you want them to have knowledge of EVIL? Or do you want them to happily enjoy their innocence for as long as possible? Is this really that difficult a concept? Do you want to make all your children's choices until their 36 married all the while living in your basement? Or will you let them do as they want provided they are respectable people keeping honor in your family name? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27690740 United States11/27/2012 08:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | short answer: it's division of the ONE same as the right/left paradigm in the us...300 million people arguing about who's wrong and who's right while the few at the top laugh while playing both sides. the forked tongue of the snake represents one speaking both points of view. the only real evil is division |
| trustmeonthisone User ID: 25677162 United States11/27/2012 08:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I actually wrote a thread on this topic. Thread: MY TRUTH: 21 Years on Spaceship Earth in Search of True Knowledge Knowledge of good and evil = judgement of good and evil Who are we to judge? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 12544363 Canada11/27/2012 08:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I actually wrote a thread on this topic. Quoting: trustmeonthisone Thread: MY TRUTH: 21 Years on Spaceship Earth in Search of True Knowledge Knowledge of good and evil = judgement of good and evil Who are we to judge? Bingo. |
| Perseus7 User ID: 28260886 United States11/27/2012 08:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | this is quite sad...I spoke some simple truths very close to the origin of the whole affair and you children spit in my face. you are not worthy to dwell in the garden. total failure. 1s 2s 2p 3s 3p 4s 3d 4p 5s 4d 5p 6s 4f 5d 6p 7s 5f 6d 7p |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 12544363 Canada11/27/2012 08:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Perseus7 User ID: 28260886 United States11/27/2012 08:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | this is quite sad...I spoke some simple truths very close to the origin of the whole affair and you children spit in my face. you are not worthy to dwell in the garden. total failure. Quoting: Perseus7 The "real" perseus would be ashamed. he would laugh at the ridiculous responses and how terribly we have been played..then likely shake his head in disgust. perhaps even walk away and wash his hands of the whole issue.. Last Edited by <%)oM34PrIm|(%>< on 11/27/2012 08:53 AM 1s 2s 2p 3s 3p 4s 3d 4p 5s 4d 5p 6s 4f 5d 6p 7s 5f 6d 7p |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1370992 Canada11/27/2012 09:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Mother Earth is of duality, as is the snake that she sent. Our bodies our built like Mother Earth, we already had duality even before they took the apple. The tree of knowledge is our spine, Adam & Eve is inside of us, male and female, that makes us whole. The Serpent is the kundalini, as Adam & Eve rise up our spine, they would have to do it harmoniously, as a unit, but since Eve was the one that took the apple (crown chakra) first, it opened negativity in the world. The Fallen Angels, don't like spirituality, as they are scared that we would start disobeying them. The wiped out the Atlantians, Jesus, American Indians, Mayans, etc. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1370992 Canada11/27/2012 09:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | short answer: Quoting: Neoanderthal Man it's division of the ONE same as the right/left paradigm in the us...300 million people arguing about who's wrong and who's right while the few at the top laugh while playing both sides. the forked tongue of the snake represents one speaking both points of view. the only real evil is division That was well said. The Snake can be your Purifier or your Destroyer. Yep! division is preventing unity, have you thought the reason why God has divided himself into millions of pieces(consciousness, thinking that maybe we wall unite some day, and we become a whole. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 25676821 United States11/27/2012 09:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | why is knowledge a sin? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1834146 seriously asking christians. not being rude. i just want to know why would having knowledge be a sin? why god would want us not to have knowledge. thanks in advance. Knowledge is not a sin. Disobedience to God is the sin, He told them not to take from the tree, and they did. The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom. sorry i am ignorant to this thats why i am asking. but did god tell them not to take the apple because it was the fruit of knowledge? why didnt god want them to have it? thanks for the feedback by the way. It was a test. Man has free will. He could choose to know what God knows, or stay innocent and trust that God would give him only good things. Satan tempted "man" (through Eve) to have the knowledge that God had, like insinuating that God had held things back from them, when in truth the only thing God held back from them was to lose their innocence and know evil things, such as so many of us know - which in myself just makes me cynical and suspicious. I think (MY opinion, not the BIble's!) God wanted them to be innocent like children and just enjoy their relationship with Him, not "grow up" and become "hardened" by sin. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 21291600 United States11/27/2012 10:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | why is knowledge a sin? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1834146 seriously asking christians. not being rude. i just want to know why would having knowledge be a sin? why god would want us not to have knowledge. thanks in advance. haven't read the thread yet, but the issue wasn't "knowledge" the issue was deciding to be their own god. when their eyes were opened, they knew the difference between good and evil. aka, the "knowledge" of good and bad. the issue at hand in the garden was this: God said "do not eat the fruit or you will die" satan said, "did God really tell you "do not, because you will die immediately? God knows your eyes will be opened and you will become like God Himself." there was absolutely no conversation about "knowledge" in itself. the issue was that adam and eve thought they could become like God, or equal to God, or their own god. exactly like satan thought, but already knew was fail. their eyes were open. but, they were open to the knowledge that they screwed up, and therefore now know the difference between good and evil. |
