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Over 7 million homeless pets a year, and we still BUY pets?!

 
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I would have adopted one from a shelter but they wanted to visit my house to make sure it was suitable. Give me a break, they acted like it was a freakin newborn baby. I went to the pet shop instead.
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As many as 3.5 million people experience homelessness in a given year (1% of the entire U.S. population or 10% of its poor), and about 842,000 people in any given week.

To hell with the animals ....
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It costs $125 to get a "free" dog at the shelter here. Also, I went there on 3 different occasions and all they had were pit bulls. The Mexican immigrants in this town always keep pit bulls to protect their houses and because it is "macho" to have a pit bull to them. And of course they don't get them spayed or neutered.
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It's really sickening...

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Mass spay and neuter; this would also be beneficial for some humans. If you can't feed them you can't have them.
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Used to be an ACO at a county run shelter. Here's what happens to the unadopted pets. At that time they used gas to put them down. They were put into a tank & gassed. They were then put into a barrel with the other dead bodies & when full the barrel was wheeled out to a freezer room to await the rendering company's pick-up. The freezer room was a grotesque sight with frozen bodies sticking out of barrels. That didn't work for very young kittens who were put in a metal box with formaldehyde until they died and then thrown into the barrels.

I always thought that the county should take out a billboard and put that sight on it (of the freezer room) as a way to remind people who turned in animals what might happen to theirs.

When I got really depressed I also fantasized about a law that would require people who turned animals in should watch the execution. But, in reality, I realized that they would only dump them on the side of the road then.

Sometimes they didn't die and as the barrel was being wheeled out to the freezer room there would be crying from the bottom. The kennel worker had to dig down to the bottom of the barrel when this would happen to retrieve the surviving animal & would usually go to the director and ask for permission to give the animal another chance. What a horror, hug??? For this reason the state finally outlawed the use of gas and now it is done by lethal injection.

New ACO's are required to watch the kennel worker do this at least once. I almost quit that day until another ACO begged me to stay and help get more adopted. After long days of calls we would come back to office and try to match up "wanted requests" to the animals we had and made phone calls. The other officers didn't give a shit. One said the more we put down then the less kennels to clean in the mornings.

I always felt sorry for the kennel worker. He wasn't the one who put these animals in the position they were in. It was the pet's owner who had. They were the real executioners.

We were only required to hold a stray for 3 days and "turn-ins" could be put down right away. Almost lost my job one day when an owner turning in her older dog so she could go on a 3 week vacation asked me for reassurance that her dog would get adopted out. I said, "No, probably not." She still turned the dog in & complained to the director. I told him I wasn't going to lie to these people when they asked me and yes, the dog was put down after a couple days. People brought their animals in for the stupidest reasons and made you wonder if they had kids and how they were treated.

We had to work with animal save groups and they would only take what they deemed the most adoptable from us. They would also find animals, know the animal had an owner, but still keep them. They figured if your animal was out roaming then you didn't deserve to be a pet owner. I had to go on many calls of "theft" to get animals back to their rightful owners. Some of these save groups are nuts - typical tree-huggers and very judgemental. Others are just nice people who care and accept the fact that we can't find homes for all of the animals.

One came into our office at our lunch time. She ran one of the local save groups. We were eating burgers. She had a fit and asked us how we could care about animals and eat meat. I noticed she had on a leather belt & sandals so asked her what was the difference from eating them or wearing them. She stormed out. I got in trouble for that one also even though she knew that I and the one other officer were the only ones at the shelter who made any kind of effort for these animals.

These groups often make people sign strict agreements and can try to confiscate the animal after adopting out to you for some stupid reasons such as pet was found loose. Well, accidents happen and if it doesn't occur multiple times shouldn't be a reason in my book.

It's a never ending battle and I don't know what the solution is. It would help, though, if most pets were neutered/spayed and not allowed to roam. Also there are too many "breeders". So many breeders are not reputable.

I quit after a few years. It's not a job you can do for long without losing your sanity and your faith in humanity or becoming calloused. I try to help from the outside now a bit.

I don't think it is a problem that ever can be solved. I hope I'm wrong. But every little bit of effort does help the situation.

As far as caring about these animals and not children: I think that people that care about children would naturally care about animals. It's strange to me that people who care about children don't also have a trickle-down, residual effect of caring about animals also (and elderly, disabled, etc. people - all of the helpless and innocents). Of course caring about children should be top priority but why can't they also care about animals? The two just seem to go together.
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I don't. All my animals were rescues or strays that found me.
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Used to be an ACO at a county run shelter. Here's what happens to the unadopted pets. At that time they used gas to put them down. They were put into a tank & gassed. They were then put into a barrel with the other dead bodies & when full the barrel was wheeled out to a freezer room to await the rendering company's pick-up. The freezer room was a grotesque sight with frozen bodies sticking out of barrels. That didn't work for very young kittens who were put in a metal box with formaldehyde until they died and then thrown into the barrels.

I always thought that the county should take out a billboard and put that sight on it (of the freezer room) as a way to remind people who turned in animals what might happen to theirs.

When I got really depressed I also fantasized about a law that would require people who turned animals in should watch the execution. But, in reality, I realized that they would only dump them on the side of the road then.

Sometimes they didn't die and as the barrel was being wheeled out to the freezer room there would be crying from the bottom. The kennel worker had to dig down to the bottom of the barrel when this would happen to retrieve the surviving animal & would usually go to the director and ask for permission to give the animal another chance. What a horror, hug??? For this reason the state finally outlawed the use of gas and now it is done by lethal injection.

New ACO's are required to watch the kennel worker do this at least once. I almost quit that day until another ACO begged me to stay and help get more adopted. After long days of calls we would come back to office and try to match up "wanted requests" to the animals we had and made phone calls. The other officers didn't give a shit. One said the more we put down then the less kennels to clean in the mornings.

I always felt sorry for the kennel worker. He wasn't the one who put these animals in the position they were in. It was the pet's owner who had. They were the real executioners.

We were only required to hold a stray for 3 days and "turn-ins" could be put down right away. Almost lost my job one day when an owner turning in her older dog so she could go on a 3 week vacation asked me for reassurance that her dog would get adopted out. I said, "No, probably not." She still turned the dog in & complained to the director. I told him I wasn't going to lie to these people when they asked me and yes, the dog was put down after a couple days. People brought their animals in for the stupidest reasons and made you wonder if they had kids and how they were treated.

We had to work with animal save groups and they would only take what they deemed the most adoptable from us. They would also find animals, know the animal had an owner, but still keep them. They figured if your animal was out roaming then you didn't deserve to be a pet owner. I had to go on many calls of "theft" to get animals back to their rightful owners. Some of these save groups are nuts - typical tree-huggers and very judgemental. Others are just nice people who care and accept the fact that we can't find homes for all of the animals.

One came into our office at our lunch time. She ran one of the local save groups. We were eating burgers. She had a fit and asked us how we could care about animals and eat meat. I noticed she had on a leather belt & sandals so asked her what was the difference from eating them or wearing them. She stormed out. I got in trouble for that one also even though she knew that I and the one other officer were the only ones at the shelter who made any kind of effort for these animals.

These groups often make people sign strict agreements and can try to confiscate the animal after adopting out to you for some stupid reasons such as pet was found loose. Well, accidents happen and if it doesn't occur multiple times shouldn't be a reason in my book.

It's a never ending battle and I don't know what the solution is. It would help, though, if most pets were neutered/spayed and not allowed to roam. Also there are too many "breeders". So many breeders are not reputable.

I quit after a few years. It's not a job you can do for long without losing your sanity and your faith in humanity or becoming calloused. I try to help from the outside now a bit.

I don't think it is a problem that ever can be solved. I hope I'm wrong. But every little bit of effort does help the situation.

As far as caring about these animals and not children: I think that people that care about children would naturally care about animals. It's strange to me that people who care about children don't also have a trickle-down, residual effect of caring about animals also (and elderly, disabled, etc. people - all of the helpless and innocents). Of course caring about children should be top priority but why can't they also care about animals? The two just seem to go together.
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I wish there were more people like you....... this was very well said!
Love is a state of Being. Your love is not outside; it is deep within you. You can never lose it, and it cannot leave you. You can feel the same life deep within every other human and every other creature. You look beyond the veil of form and separation. This is the realization of oneness. This is love. What is God? The Eternal One Life underneath all the forms of life. What is love? To feel the presence of that One Life deep within yourself and within all creatures. To be it. Therefore, all love is the love of God.

Death is a stripping away of all that is not you. The secret of life is to die before you die - and find that there is no death.
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Slaughter them...marinate them...and can them for the welfare recipients.

Done.
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YOU are a forum moderator?!?
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You can't see the beauty in this solution to feed starving people of the world?

Shame on you!
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when you hurt gods creations you are going against god and gods wrath
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Better not walk then. The millions of single celled "God's creations" are dying with every step.

The shit you asshats post is utterly idiotic.
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you are the definition of why our world is in the state it is - soul-less creature that you are.
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Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first. ~Mark Twain

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The worst are the breeders

Esp those who try to come up w new and unusual breeds, which are often sickly

FUCK ALL OF THEM
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Dip the Forum Moderator knows all.

Thank god, lol.
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when you hurt gods creations you are going against god and gods wrath
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Better not walk then. The millions of single celled "God's creations" are dying with every step.

The shit you asshats post is utterly idiotic.
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you are the definition of why our world is in the state it is - soul-less creature that you are.
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Listen to George and learn ~RIP George


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oh yeah, that has everything to do with the OP.....scratching
Love is a state of Being. Your love is not outside; it is deep within you. You can never lose it, and it cannot leave you. You can feel the same life deep within every other human and every other creature. You look beyond the veil of form and separation. This is the realization of oneness. This is love. What is God? The Eternal One Life underneath all the forms of life. What is love? To feel the presence of that One Life deep within yourself and within all creatures. To be it. Therefore, all love is the love of God.

Death is a stripping away of all that is not you. The secret of life is to die before you die - and find that there is no death.
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Better not walk then. The millions of single celled "God's creations" are dying with every step.

The shit you asshats post is utterly idiotic.
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you are the definition of why our world is in the state it is - soul-less creature that you are.
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Listen to George and learn ~RIP George


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oh yeah, that has everything to do with the OP.....scratching
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Are you really that stupid? You can't be. There are too many fucking pet type animals. You animal loving freaks have caused this problem. Solve the problem and save starving people. Put the adoptable "pets" into the food market.

George is talking about asshats just like you. That was the relevance. Dumbass.
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I cared about hungry children the first 65 years I was alive. Then I realized the first children I donated to we're in their 40's and had made many more children. And their children made more children. So, I don't donate to causes concerning children anymore.
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Well i know a guy who rents his pets.
And, when he grows bored, tosses the pet in the trash.
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REPORT HIM YOU ASSHOLE. Thats exactly why there's problems. People don't speak up. You are as gulity as him for not stepping up to the plate. I just hate people who look away and do nothing when it comes to others suffering. Humans and Pets. They should be thrown into the garbage too.
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It's really sickening...

[link to waronanimals.org]
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Mass spay and neuter; this would also be beneficial for some humans. If you can't feed them you can't have them.
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I agree but I have also seen threads on here about depopulation and others about people being made to get sterilized and everybody has a fit. This is one fucked up world we live in. Its ass backwards. If people can't understand that there is too much of everything on this planet. Cows. Dogs. Cats and people then their just plain incredibily stupid. We can't keep this up much longer. They say by 2020 which is only 8 years away that were shit out of luck and resources especially when you throw in all the crazy weather. Floods. Crop destruction and alike. People need to get with the program. Agenda 21 has some good elements in it. Why do you think they are even having those types of conversations with the world leaders. The more I am on these boards listening to all the cry babies that think they are being controlled and boo hoo. There is a reason for it because the masses can't control themselves and pull it together long enough to have an intelligent conversation about anything. People are fucking stupid.
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There are homeless from the time we bread them to become our pet.

They are homeless from the time u think you OWN one.

There are homeless when we remove them from they natural location.

All this is for you to create a emotional experience so some other will nourish from.
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you are the definition of why our world is in the state it is - soul-less creature that you are.
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oh yeah, that has everything to do with the OP.....scratching
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Are you really that stupid? You can't be. There are too many fucking pet type animals. You animal loving freaks have caused this problem. Solve the problem and save starving people. Put the adoptable "pets" into the food market.

George is talking about asshats just like you. That was the relevance. Dumbass.
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you should stop your tongue from interfering with the workings of your brain.

Solve the problem by stopping people from breeding ... spay, neuter.... EDUCATE. DOn't buy from pet stores aka puppy mills, they only perpetuate the problem. Animals don't belong in cages -- dont buy rabbits, guinea pigs, etc etc .... StOP THE MARKET.

The starving people that exist in our world and our country, could be well fed if it wasn't for stupid elite ptb......it's the world governments that perpetuate starvation, not people who care about animals.

Asshat.
Love is a state of Being. Your love is not outside; it is deep within you. You can never lose it, and it cannot leave you. You can feel the same life deep within every other human and every other creature. You look beyond the veil of form and separation. This is the realization of oneness. This is love. What is God? The Eternal One Life underneath all the forms of life. What is love? To feel the presence of that One Life deep within yourself and within all creatures. To be it. Therefore, all love is the love of God.

Death is a stripping away of all that is not you. The secret of life is to die before you die - and find that there is no death.
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I would have adopted one from a shelter but they wanted to visit my house to make sure it was suitable. Give me a break, they acted like it was a freakin newborn baby. I went to the pet shop instead.
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Hello. They want to make sure the dog doesn't end up coming back. People are liers and some are really stupid when it comes to dogs and pets. I have seen and met some people with pets and you look at whats going on and wonder how they even make it through life. I'm not kidding. You are a babby for not consenting to it and you probably had somthing to hide in the process. People lie about having fenced yards and proper shelters and what they think is just OK usually isn't. I have seen dogs stuffed into Kennels that they could not even turn around in all day because the owners worked all day and did not want to come home to a mess. Then when they do come home their dogs are in a frenzy with freedom and they will call me to fix their dogs because they say they are Hyper. I hate fucking people and most dog owners are idiots. Maybe 10% percent of people actually get it right with balance. Good surroundings and exercise and training. The rest of the mass idiots out there are just that. IDIOTS.
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Our dogs are our 4 legged kids...and like my 2 legged kids they will eat before we do... they are the most loyal, loving kids any one could have... they weigh 20 lbs each and we have supplies for them just like we do for us.
Anything else would not be thinkable.
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That's how I feel about MY 4-legged "kids" too. I have never "bought" a pet (other than fish!), they seem to just come to me when it's time. This past summer I had 2 cats pass (one was 19, the other one I'd had for a couple of years, he came to me sick and ragged and hungry with only 2 teeth, but whatever he'd gone through before we met I hope that the last couple of years of his life made up for that) and had to put down a goat who was 20 or 21 who had come to me at about age 4) so there will be fewer stockings hung for Santa to fill this year. But when the Universe decides that another little guy needs a home, he or she will be sent here to be welcomed and loved. And I, too, have stocked up on cat and dog food, at least enough to last for a few months.....
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oh yeah, that has everything to do with the OP.....scratching
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Are you really that stupid? You can't be. There are too many fucking pet type animals. You animal loving freaks have caused this problem. Solve the problem and save starving people. Put the adoptable "pets" into the food market.

George is talking about asshats just like you. That was the relevance. Dumbass.
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you should stop your tongue from interfering with the workings of your brain.

Solve the problem by stopping people from breeding ... spay, neuter.... EDUCATE. DOn't buy from pet stores aka puppy mills, they only perpetuate the problem. Animals don't belong in cages -- dont buy rabbits, guinea pigs, etc etc .... StOP THE MARKET.

The starving people that exist in our world and our country, could be well fed if it wasn't for stupid elite ptb......it's the world governments that perpetuate starvation, not people who care about animals.

Asshat.
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It's too late for that. And besides, when in this world has an initiative like the one you propose actually worked? Never? Bleh...euthanize all of the unwanted furry "cute" little (and big) creatures. Use them as a resource of some type. When people abandon dogs, cats, snakes etc...utilize that resource!!!! We're putting money out "saving" them. Big waste IMO.
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It's not the fault of the people who choose to purchase pets that there are homeless pets. The reason there are homeless pets is because of the irresponsible fuckers who allow their Petsamo become homeless. Be responsible and get your pets fixed. Problem solved.

Just as it is not the infertile couples of the world responsibility to adopt all the unwanted kids in the world it not the responsibility of the people who choose to purchase pets to take in all the unwanted pets in the world.

Put blame where blame is due. On the irresponsible fuckers who made their pets homeless in the first place and the losers who popped out unplanned kids they didn't want.

I am allergic to animal dander. That means cats are off limits to me as well as most dog breeds. Because of that I can only have a few dog breeds as a pet. People claim that pure breeds end to in shelters but pure breeds are snatched up first from shelters. Another issue with adopting a shelter "pure breed" is that unless to dog was dropped off by the owner and the owner took the time to fill out paperwork on the history of the dog there is no way to know for sure that the shelter dog really is a pure bred. And even if the owner does fill out paper work there is no guarantee that they won't lie. One ounce of any breed other than the "hypoallergenic" breeds and I can't have them in my house. If that turned out to be the case the dog would have to go back to the shelter. No thanks. I'll keep buying from a breeder when I get a new dog (which isn't often, I bought my current dog as a puppy from a breeder in 2004) so I know exactly what I'm getting.
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It's really sickening...

[link to waronanimals.org]
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yet you dont give two shits about the starving children in the world
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Actually, caring for the way our nation treats animals directly effects our "starving children." We spend 70% of our grain to feed animals for meat consumption. Makes sense.
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Ahhhh, it becomes clear, once again, clothed with concerns for homeless pets, thus breeders are bad people, it comes around to the real agenda: banning domestic ownership of animals of all kinds. You won't be able to own any animal, let alone raise animals for eating. You can be their guardian, though. You "Animal Rights" people are becoming more and more transparent in your every deception.
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It's really sickening...

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Mass spay and neuter; this would also be beneficial for some humans. If you can't feed them you can't have them.
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I agree but I have also seen threads on here about depopulation and others about people being made to get sterilized and everybody has a fit. This is one fucked up world we live in. Its ass backwards. If people can't understand that there is too much of everything on this planet. Cows. Dogs. Cats and people then their just plain incredibily stupid. We can't keep this up much longer. They say by 2020 which is only 8 years away that were shit out of luck and resources especially when you throw in all the crazy weather. Floods. Crop destruction and alike. People need to get with the program. Agenda 21 has some good elements in it. Why do you think they are even having those types of conversations with the world leaders. The more I am on these boards listening to all the cry babies that think they are being controlled and boo hoo. There is a reason for it because the masses can't control themselves and pull it together long enough to have an intelligent conversation about anything. People are fucking stupid.
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I'm helping with the cow overpopulation - one tasty bite at a time!!!!
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oh yeah, that has everything to do with the OP.....scratching
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Are you really that stupid? You can't be. There are too many fucking pet type animals. You animal loving freaks have caused this problem. Solve the problem and save starving people. Put the adoptable "pets" into the food market.

George is talking about asshats just like you. That was the relevance. Dumbass.
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you should stop your tongue from interfering with the workings of your brain.

Solve the problem by stopping people from breeding ... spay, neuter.... EDUCATE. DOn't buy from pet stores aka puppy mills, they only perpetuate the problem. Animals don't belong in cages -- dont buy rabbits, guinea pigs, etc etc .... StOP THE MARKET.

The starving people that exist in our world and our country, could be well fed if it wasn't for stupid elite ptb......it's the world governments that perpetuate starvation, not people who care about animals.

Asshat.
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It's too late for that. And besides, when in this world has an initiative like the one you propose actually worked? Never? Bleh...euthanize all of the unwanted furry "cute" little (and big) creatures. Use them as a resource of some type. When people abandon dogs, cats, snakes etc...utilize that resource!!!! We're putting money out "saving" them. Big waste IMO.
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the problem with YOUR solution is you are only extending the current market if not creating a new one.......this will only result in more animals being produced to feed "the starving." hah, like they will EVER see this food!. Nope, your solution is not only heartless, but it wouldn't work for the purposes you would like to think.
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Are you really that stupid? You can't be. There are too many fucking pet type animals. You animal loving freaks have caused this problem. Solve the problem and save starving people. Put the adoptable "pets" into the food market.

George is talking about asshats just like you. That was the relevance. Dumbass.
 Quoting: Chip
you should stop your tongue from interfering with the workings of your brain.

Solve the problem by stopping people from breeding ... spay, neuter.... EDUCATE. DOn't buy from pet stores aka puppy mills, they only perpetuate the problem. Animals don't belong in cages -- dont buy rabbits, guinea pigs, etc etc .... StOP THE MARKET.

The starving people that exist in our world and our country, could be well fed if it wasn't for stupid elite ptb......it's the world governments that perpetuate starvation, not people who care about animals.

Asshat.
 Quoting: Shamar


It's too late for that. And besides, when in this world has an initiative like the one you propose actually worked? Never? Bleh...euthanize all of the unwanted furry "cute" little (and big) creatures. Use them as a resource of some type. When people abandon dogs, cats, snakes etc...utilize that resource!!!! We're putting money out "saving" them. Big waste IMO.
 Quoting: Chip


the problem with YOUR solution is you are only extending the current market if not creating a new one.......this will only result in more animals being produced to feed "the starving." hah, like they will EVER see this food!. Nope, your solution is not only heartless, but it wouldn't work for the purposes you would like to think.
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Heartless? You're kidding right? What's heartless is the number of animals living in shit filled cages and being murdered en masse and thrown into tallow works or dumps.

Makes no sense to me.
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you should stop your tongue from interfering with the workings of your brain.

Solve the problem by stopping people from breeding ... spay, neuter.... EDUCATE. DOn't buy from pet stores aka puppy mills, they only perpetuate the problem. Animals don't belong in cages -- dont buy rabbits, guinea pigs, etc etc .... StOP THE MARKET.

The starving people that exist in our world and our country, could be well fed if it wasn't for stupid elite ptb......it's the world governments that perpetuate starvation, not people who care about animals.

Asshat.
 Quoting: Shamar


It's too late for that. And besides, when in this world has an initiative like the one you propose actually worked? Never? Bleh...euthanize all of the unwanted furry "cute" little (and big) creatures. Use them as a resource of some type. When people abandon dogs, cats, snakes etc...utilize that resource!!!! We're putting money out "saving" them. Big waste IMO.
 Quoting: Chip


the problem with YOUR solution is you are only extending the current market if not creating a new one.......this will only result in more animals being produced to feed "the starving." hah, like they will EVER see this food!. Nope, your solution is not only heartless, but it wouldn't work for the purposes you would like to think.
 Quoting: Shamar


Heartless? You're kidding right? What's heartless is the number of animals living in shit filled cages and being murdered en masse and thrown into tallow works or dumps.

Makes no sense to me.
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I do agree with that statement......

And the only thing I can agree with you as to your "solution" to the problem, is that these poor creatures that are subject the heartlessness of mass humanity, are removed from this god-forsaken planet.......
Love is a state of Being. Your love is not outside; it is deep within you. You can never lose it, and it cannot leave you. You can feel the same life deep within every other human and every other creature. You look beyond the veil of form and separation. This is the realization of oneness. This is love. What is God? The Eternal One Life underneath all the forms of life. What is love? To feel the presence of that One Life deep within yourself and within all creatures. To be it. Therefore, all love is the love of God.

Death is a stripping away of all that is not you. The secret of life is to die before you die - and find that there is no death.
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It's too late for that. And besides, when in this world has an initiative like the one you propose actually worked? Never? Bleh...euthanize all of the unwanted furry "cute" little (and big) creatures. Use them as a resource of some type. When people abandon dogs, cats, snakes etc...utilize that resource!!!! We're putting money out "saving" them. Big waste IMO.
 Quoting: Chip


the problem with YOUR solution is you are only extending the current market if not creating a new one.......this will only result in more animals being produced to feed "the starving." hah, like they will EVER see this food!. Nope, your solution is not only heartless, but it wouldn't work for the purposes you would like to think.
 Quoting: Shamar


Heartless? You're kidding right? What's heartless is the number of animals living in shit filled cages and being murdered en masse and thrown into tallow works or dumps.

Makes no sense to me.
 Quoting: Chip
I do agree with that statement......

And the only thing I can agree with you as to your "solution" to the problem, is that these poor creatures that are subject the heartlessness of mass humanity, are removed from this god-forsaken planet.......
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There...now we're on the same page. The next step is using their carcases (remember, all matter is energy) for some good in this godforsaken world.
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when the depopulation starts in earnest , the people without guns will be the first ones to go dickless )