Is discordant, anti-establishment behaviour related to pot/marijuana smoking?

Every now and again I have to hang out with some mucky-mucks,
the foot-soldiers of the current PTB.

They really hate pot and see it as a serious threat to their power structure.

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Marijuana is really just a plant. That should be the end of discussion in every court of law. Sure, if you burn the correct part of the plant after it's been flowered and dried, then purposely inhale the smoke, you're gonna feel some effects.

But let's get real, you're not gonna get any special mind powers from it or become a zen master, nor are you going to become an anti-social thieving criminal who will suck dicks for a fix.

That is true and I think the only way to kill yourself while on it is to be already depressed and do yourself in or to be so inattentive as to walk in front of a bus or something. However to say it's really just a plant as an ipso facto way to dismiss any possible risk, while applicable here perhaps, is not universally true. Curare's just a plant. Scopolamine's just a plant. Hemlock's just a plant. We wouldn't say these things are safe just because they're a plant. And even plants that do not harm outright should still be treated with respect.

hmmm. 'Discordant' is a subjective term, coming from a discordant viewpoint... which is, IMHO, one of the ironies of those who use the derogatory term 'anti-establishment" in the first place.



To me, these two terms relate the thought that people who smoke pot do not go with the flow of someone else's way of thinking, therefore such people are mistakenly of the opinion that this is somehow 'against' society. Yet, this is not at all correct.

How can hearty laughter, being one with nature, or the eating of an excessive amount of cheetos, be considered acts against society? Huh?

Many of the same people who make such 'rules' and think this way have no trouble schmoozing and boozing at $50,000 a plate dinners or elaborate society events, while wearing clothing and jewels that would pay someone's rent and mortgage for at least a few years--if not, completely. To me, that's a fair assumption of something discordant and against what I view as normal. Still, such behavior is deemed perfectly acceptable, and, necessary for their survival. Go figure.

Back to your question...

The word 'discordant' suggests an unrelated or out-of-tune series of disharmonius wavelengths which can be interpreted by one person to 'suck' while another finds it pleasing is aspect. The construction of a perfect discordant mix in music can be a quite involved and well thought out addition, done on purpose, to create a mood. Or, it could simply be the effect of someone not being able to carry a tune in a melodious fashion.

It's all a matter of taste, isn't it? Richard Wagner's music comes to mind, for in his day there were people who likened his music to fingernails tearing down a chalk board. Yet, in our time, countless millions of lovers have walked down the aisle to his Wedding March, in blissful harmony.



Soooooooooooo, now, if independent thought and actions are taboo just because they cannot be understood or interpreted correctly by those who cannot think for themselves on such matters, those people have no business considering this subject at all IMHO. As far pot smoking goes, they really would have to smoke it in order to understand it.

I've tasted expensive caviar...it does nothing for me. As far as I see it, it is something people serve or eat to make themselves appear cultured and refined. On the other hand, someone smoking pot will eat whatever is in the cupboard or fridge...which is much more reasonable way to eat.

Who deserves credit for being more IN HARMONY with reasonable society, eh?

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written while under the influence of excessive amounts of turkey, stuffing and ginger tea...meaning, I am far to tired to edit for cohesiveness, at least until my little trip on tryptophan wears off. has anyone seen my pillow?



Last Edited by Esoteric Morgan on 11/25/2012 03:20 AM

Oh, curare's a frog, I suppose not a plant. Oh well.

Okay smartass,

how many people has pot killed?

See, it's that easy.

It's just a plant.

Pre-existing conditions prior to pot use are what you are looking after.

Sounds more like behavior typical of coke or meth users who imbibe excessively

Last Edited by Ralph--a house dog on 11/25/2012 04:39 AM

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Can't have that

[link to news.yahoo.com]

"Votes making Colorado and Washington the first U.S. states to legalize marijuana for recreational use could be short-lived victories for pot backers because the federal government will fight them, two former U.S. drug control officials said on Wednesday.

They said the federal government could sue to block parts of the measures or send threatening letters to marijuana shops, followed up by street-level clampdowns similar to those targeting medical marijuana dispensaries the government suspects are fronts for drug traffickers.

"This is a symbolic victory for (legalization) advocates, but it will be short-lived," Kevin Sabet, a former adviser to the Obama administration's drug czar, told reporters"

nope, never touch the stuff.

well, ok, I do, but I don't exhale.

If you do something stupid while smoking marijuana, you would've done it sober.
There are several other plants and herbs you can ingest that will can get you high. Morning glory seeds create LSA, it's chemical structure is similar to LSD. You can eat a ton of fresh nutmeg and trip major balls.
But neither of these plants have the same stigma that marijuana has.
Weed really is just a plant.

Was "Canna" the lost ciy of Cannabis?Where they did produce a costly oil that was used for Anointing?........................

I can't because of work. But I have no problem with people smoking it. Hell can't be any worse than knot heads who booze it up all the time.

For sure.

I just don't have enough time in my day to run around and try and find the right connects and then spend 4 hours munching on food and laughing at the TV.
I feel this is a civil rights issue.