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Northwest, N. Calif., Braces For More Rain and Snow!!!

 
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Thread: Northern California "Arc Storm" Is Just a Normal And Natural Occourance For This Area!! Doom Off With Evidence!!
This thread explains how this kind of storm happens almost every non-drought year..doom off!
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National Weather Service - Medford, OR

Several stronger storms will impact the region Thursday through Sunday. The first system will bring strong southerly winds and moderate to locally heavy rainfall and heavy snow in the Mount Shasta area above 5000 feet. Strong winds could make driving difficult, especially for high profile vehicles. 3 to 5 inches of rain is expected for many locations west of the Cascades through Thursday, with more than 10 inches expected by Sunday morning in some areas. This will increase flooding potential by the end of the week. Remember, if you come to a flooded roadway, turn around...don't drown. Please see your latest local hazards and the Flood Watches for further details.

[link to www.wrh.noaa.gov]

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US National Weather Service San Francisco Bay Area/Monterey California

Another Pacific Storm is expected to produce more significant rainfall across the area by late Thursday and into Friday. Rain will move into the North Bay first and push south through the evening and overnight. Rain of 1-3 inches in the Bay area South with 2-4 inches north is expected with high terrain seeing up to 6 inches. Small creeks and streams are expected to begin flooding and flooding of roadways in urban areas and poorly drained locations is possible. Clogged storm drains will make urban flooding issues worse. Winds will increase and become gusty again across the area especially near the coast and in higher elevations. High surf will impact the coastline especially for the North Bay coast.

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snow totals for Sierra, Tahoe, and Mt. Shasta [link to pic.twitter.com]
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Santa Cruz mountains & Big Sur will collect a lot of rain over next 2.5 days. Not that many dams left to collect it. [link to pic.twitter.com]
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Who is LARRY STORM? lol
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I wondered that also. Maybe Luis is Larry.

** Btw- Luis you are doing a great job of keeping us informed.
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lolsign Larry is the name they gave to this storm!
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The first storm in a parade of storms made its way through Northern California Wednesday. As expected, the storm brought areas of heavy rain and widespread moderate rain mainly north of the San Francisco Bay Area. Here are some Wednesday rainfall amounts for the hills north of San Francisco. These areas are normally the wettest for storms like what was experienced on Wednesday.

SONOMA COUNTY AIRPORT............. 1.27
SANTA ROSA........................ 1.14
VNOC1 VENADO 1260`................ 2.00
HWKC1 HAWKEYE RAWS 2024`.......... 1.54
PTBC1 PETALUMA-D ST BRIDGE........ 0.75

.NAPA COUNTY
NAPA COUNTY AIRPORT............... 0.70
MSHC1 MOUNT ST HELENA 4140`....... 1.73
NRYC1 YOUNTVILLE CROSS ROAD....... 0.63
NAPC1 ATLAS PEAK 1680`............ 0.64
NAAC1 NAPA-LINCOLN BRIDGE......... 0.59


In addition, here are Wednesday rainfall amounts for counties farther to the north such as Mendocino, Del Norte, and Humboldt.

...DEL NORTE COUNTY...
(3 NNW) CRESCENT CITY (43 FT)(COOP) 1.00 IN
JACK MC NAMARA FIELD AIRPORT (ASOS) 0.86 IN
FORT DICK RIVER (GOES) 0.68 IN
GASQUET RS (387 FT)(COOP) 0.60 IN
ELK VALLEY (1705 FT)(COOP) 0.20 IN

...HUMBOLDT COUNTY...
1 SW HONEYDEW (370 FT)(COOP) 2.80 IN
WILLOW CRK 1 NW (464 FT)(COOP) 1.78 IN
BRIDGEVILLE RAIN GAGE (646 FT)(GOES)1.40 IN
KNEELAND RAWS (2737 FT)(GOES) 1.27 IN
4 SE MIRANDA (266 FT)(COOP) 1.00 IN
TRINTY RIVER AT HOOPA (333 FT)(GOES)0.96 IN
BIG HILL RAWS (3570 FT)(GOES) 0.92 IN
FORT SEWARD (217 FT)(COOP) 0.88 IN
ALDERPOINT GOES (923 FT)(GOES) 0.74 IN
REDWOOD CK NR (5 FT)(GOES) 0.68 IN
EUREKA,CA (20 FT)(COOP) 0.59 IN
ARCATA AIRPORT (223 FT)(ASOS) 0.48 IN
ORLEANS RS (433 FT)(COOP) 0.44 IN

...MENDOCINO COUNTY...
YORKVILLE (1100 FT)(GOES) 2.16 IN
BOONVILLE RAWS (644 FT)(GOES) 1.57 IN
RUSSIAN RIVER NR CLOVERDALE 6NW 1.48 IN
FORT BRAGG 5 N (123 FT)(COOP) 1.38 IN
WILLITS HOWARD RANGER STN (GOES) 1.32 IN
UKIAH MUNICIPAL AIRPORT (AWOS) 1.29 IN
LEGGETT (703 FT)(COOP) 1.24 IN
EEL RIVER RAWS (1610 FT)(GOES) 0.94 IN


Now, I know what you are thinking. When you look at those rainfall numbers, they don't seem all that impressive. There is a lesson that can be learned from looking at these rainfall amounts. When a parade of storms like what the West Coast is experiencing sets up, the first of these storms often ends up being weaker than what the models had predicted. Arguably, this case could be made for the storm that moved through Northern California Wednesday. But, this shouldn't be the lesson for the rest of the parade. Often, this first storm primes the atmosphere with moisture that the subsequent storms could utilize bring very heavy rain to the state. This appears to be the case for the next two storms.

Second Storm Poised To Strike

A second storm out in the Pacific Ocean is set to move gradually closer to the coast Thursday, but California will largely experience a brief break from the wet conditions for much of Thursday. The second storm will be stronger than the first, washing onto the north coast of California in the afternoon and evening.

The severe weather map paints a story of what to expect in California.

Winter Weather Warnings are posted for the western slopes of the Sierra Nevadas as as much as 30 inches of snow is expected to fall to Friday afternoon for elevations higher than 6,000 feet. This is a fairly high elevation for snow level for the Sierras for a storm during this time of year.

Also, Flood Watches are posted for some rivers in Northern California. One of these rivers is the Navarro River, which currently has a stage of 2.9 feet. Here is what is impressive. The flood stage for the Navarro River at Navarro is 23.0 feet. That means that it is currently 20 FEET below flood stage, yet the NWS has determined that it is prudent to issue a Flood Watch for the river. Further, flood stage may be reached by Friday morning and the river could hit 26 feet by midday Friday. So between Thursday morning and Friday afternoon, the river is expected to rise as much as 23 feet. That is a tremendous amount of water.

This is the HPC precipitation forecast for the second storm. You can see a bulls eye of rain along the western slopes of the Sierras. The third storm over weekend is expected to be even stronger. [link to www.wunderground.com]
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Weather Underground‏@wunderground

Navarro River, CA Wednesday stage was 2.9 feet. The river could crest at 26 feet flood stage midday Fri. [link to www.wunderground.com]

4 hWeather Underground‏@wunderground

The Navarro River in N. California is expected to rise 23 feet in the next 36 hours. [link to www.wunderground.com]

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the National Weather Service in Eureka has issued a

* Flood Watch for
the Navarro river at Navarro.
* From Friday morning to Friday evening... or until the watch is
cancelled.
* At 3:15 PM Wednesday the stage was 2.9 feet.
* Minor flooding is possible.
* Flood stage is 23.0 feet.
* Forecast... flood stage may be reached by Friday morning.
* This river is expected to rise above flood stage of 23 ft
Friday morning then forecast to crest near 26 ft near noon Friday
then forecast to fall below flood stage of 23 ft Friday evening.
* Impacts... if the river reaches or exceeds 23 feet... flooding of Highway
128 approximately 5 miles from Highway 1 will occur.





301 PM PST Wed Nov 28 2012

... Flood Watch in effect from Thursday morning through late
Thursday night...

The National Weather Service in Eureka has issued a

* Flood Watch for a portion of northwest California... including
the following areas... Mendocino coast... Mendocino interior and
upper Trinity River.

* Heavy rain is expected through the day Thursday and Thursday
night with widespread amounts of 2 to 4 inches with 4 to 6
inches in the more prone areas.

* Local street flooding is possible in urban areas. Small streams
may overtop their banks and flood local roads.

Precautionary/preparedness actions...

A Flood Watch means there is a potential for flooding based on
current forecasts.

You should monitor later forecasts and be alert for possible
flood warnings. Those living in areas prone to flooding should be
prepared to take action should flooding develop.
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Santa Cruz mountains & Big Sur will collect a lot of rain over next 2.5 days. Not that many dams left to collect it. [link to pic.twitter.com]
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this is a really impressive map... hiding
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anyone can report if it's raining in this moment in N California?
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Waiting for Larry Storm's next weather update. :)
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He's probably checking in with his uncle Large Storm.
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lmao
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Who is LARRY STORM? lol
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I wondered that also. Maybe Luis is Larry.

** Btw- Luis you are doing a great job of keeping us informed.
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lolsign Larry is the name they gave to this storm!
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LOL!
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not raining. but i am in the valley not the coast.
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A pause in the rain between systems, I think.
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@RyanMaue Pineapple Express kicks up into another higher gear in 6-days. [link to pic.twitter.com]
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Luis, does this mean something else is coming in 6 days?
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California Flood Threat From "Atmospheric River"

Published: Nov 29, 2012, 7:30 AM EST weather.com

Amazingly, according to NOAA's Earth System Research Laboratory (ESRL), a strong atmospheric river can transport as water vapor up to 15 times the average flow of liquid water at the mouth of the Mississippi River!

Beginning Thursday, the upper-level pattern will begin to tap into an atmospheric river of moisture extending from just north and west of Hawaii to the West Coast.

[link to www.weather.com]
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@spweather Thursday through Tuesday morning rainfall outlook. Nearly 13" of rain forecasted near Cape Mendocino.

[link to www.hpc.ncep.noaa.gov]
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On the coast here in Del Norte county and its pouring. The internet is going on and off. Its 6 a.m.
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On the coast here in Del Norte county and its pouring. The internet is going on and off. Its 6 a.m.
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Beautiful area. I was up that way last spring...Crescent City.
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On the coast here in Del Norte county and its pouring. The internet is going on and off. Its 6 a.m.
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Beautiful area. I was up that way last spring...Crescent City.
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I forgot to log in.
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On the coast here in Del Norte county and its pouring. The internet is going on and off. Its 6 a.m.
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As you're in the region where the Patterson (Bigfoot) Film was shot in 1967, what are your feelings about Bigfoot? Have you seen anything peculiar? Have you heard stories from others in the area about Bigfoot?
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Bigfoot stories? Yes sure. Grew up spending lots of time in the high country of N. Calif. My grandfather was a packer and guide in the wilderness areas. He had some bigfoot stories.

Have not seen one myself, but I am a believer.
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@weatherchannel Nasty rain/wind heading for northern California now. Radar: [link to wxch.nl] Forecast: [link to wxch.nl]
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The first storm wasn't even that bad.. We've had worse..
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Medford OR just started raining 30 min ago, moderate rain now.
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Bigfoot stories? Yes sure. Grew up spending lots of time in the high country of N. Calif. My grandfather was a packer and guide in the wilderness areas. He had some bigfoot stories.

Have not seen one myself, but I am a believer.
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Hi, I'm a believer too. Please tell us some of your grandfather's bigfoot stories. You could start a thread.
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remember my thread on arkstorm last week?

this too is an atmospheric river storm.

i've been asking them questions on FB and have a good idea of wtf is going on but there are some very ambiguous statements coming from them that reek of standard scuttlebutry.
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The first storm wasn't even that bad.. We've had worse..
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The Bay Area storm, dubbed round No. 1, made its way out of the region by lunch on Wednesday and wasn't as bad as many had predicted.

Thursday's storm is a traditional north to south weather system with rain starting north of the Golden Gate and moving south. The next system has more moisture content with as much as two to four inches of rain falling.

Many are concerned about potential flooding in the North Bay and in the Santa Cruz mountains now that the ground is already wet and there is more rain the forecast.

The San Anselmo creeks and rivers are among those at risk, so the city is handing out free sandbags so residents can prepare for the wet weather.

And that won't be the last storm of the week. Storm No. 3 is expected to arrive Saturday. It will bring hit and miss showers at best.

A last storm of the series is the biggest of them all. It is expected to arrive Sunday. NBC Bay Area meteorologist Anthony Slaughter describes it as the mother ship arriving at port. Slaughter says the "mother ship" is a system that is sitting off the coast and has been spitting out the rest of the storms. That mega-system will move itself on in come Sunday.

It has the most moisture of all of the systems and could bring yet another three to five inches.

[link to www.nbcbayarea.com]
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I've lived here 35 years. Getting 10 to 20 inches of rain with high winds over several days is not unusual.
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I beg to differ - this is not something that happens every winter. And you know it.
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They said it is "not unusual", they didn't say it happens every winter.

I live in Sacramento and we get wicked rain through here from time to time. This storm is not unusual. A few years ago we had so much rain the levees on the Sacramento river were only a few feet from overtopping. www.water.ca.gov/newsroom/docs/WeirsReliefStructures.pdf


My concern is that the levees could be sabotaged under cloak of "extreme rain". For years the State government has been nattering about the levee system and the possibility of flooding. They want federal dollars to rebuild it (i.e., California is broke and wants a handout from the feds.) The fact is, the levee on the west side of the river protects farmland and is the weaker of the two sides. So any "normal" levee break would flood farmlands, not the city. If the city side of the Sacramento River gets a levee break, I would consider that extremely suspicious.

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