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FORBES: Resist Planned Obsolescence or Accept the Financial Consequences

 
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FORBES: Resist Planned Obsolescence or Accept the Financial Consequences
Products of all types — cars, incandescent bulbs, your iPad and iPhone — are designed with planned obsolescence in mind. The need or desire to replace products quickly and a shorter product life-cycle are a consistent drain on wealth. In the previous generation, the latest television sets were big household expenses, just like they are today, but they stayed operational and sufficient for a couple of decades.

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To bad most consumers are reading/watching TMZ instead of something important
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Re: FORBES: Resist Planned Obsolescence or Accept the Financial Consequences
guess it helps to post the link

[link to www.forbes.com]
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Is it just me or does it seem that over the last month or so the mainstream outlets are trying to spill truth rather than bullshit?
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every now and then they have to put some truth in, just to make us conspiracy theorist seem crazy for saying they always lie
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guess it helps to post the link

[link to www.forbes.com]
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nice link op. hf

they have removed the full length lightbulb conspiracy documentary from the web now.
It is 52 mins and has english subs.....I can only find this version without the end subs:

[link to vimeo.com]
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they have removed the full length lightbulb conspiracy documentary from the web now.
It is 52 mins and has english subs.....I can only find this version without the end subs:

[link to vimeo.com]
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should have said eng subs
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they have removed the full length lightbulb conspiracy documentary from the web now.
It is 52 mins and has english subs.....I can only find this version without the end subs:

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[link to uk.imdb.com]
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planned obsolescence is number 2 on my list of greatest evils perpetrated by man. fractional reserve banking is #1.
I'm a Libertarian Constitutionalist.

I don't give a shit what you do with your own life, whether you make it a success or a failure, that is an outcome of the choices you make, but please take responsibility for yourself and don't make ME pay for YOUR choices and we're all good.

It's a flower, not something to be feared.

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"overspecialization and the great conflict of interest"

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Re: FORBES: Resist Planned Obsolescence or Accept the Financial Consequences
guess it helps to post the link

[link to www.forbes.com]
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nice link op. hf

they have removed the full length lightbulb conspiracy documentary from the web now.
It is 52 mins and has english subs.....I can only find this version without the end subs:

[link to vimeo.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28440474


One of my friends left a company that was building led light bulbs when it was bought out by a major producer and shut it down.

She was offered a high paying position if she stayed, but decided not to sell out
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planned obsolescence is number 2 on my list of greatest evils perpetrated by man. fractional reserve banking is #1.
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+1
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"overspecialization and the great conflict of interest"

[link to www.facebook.com]
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bump
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The Ghost of the IPhone 1 just one starred my first pinned thread
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planned obsolescence is number 2 on my list of greatest evils perpetrated by man. fractional reserve banking is #1.
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+1
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+1000!

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Terrific doco!
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Hey, did Gerald Celente say this three years ago? Uh yeah, he did.
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Hey, did Gerald Celente say this three years ago? Uh yeah, he did.
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Not to take anything away from Gerald Celente, but Buckminster Fuller and Jacque Fresco, as well as many others have been saying it for decades.
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Hey, did Gerald Celente say this three years ago? Uh yeah, he did.
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Not to take anything away from Gerald Celente, but Buckminster Fuller and Jacque Fresco, as well as many others have been saying it for decades.
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Oh I agree, Celente can be a little over the top at times. However, he did predict people would trend back toward quality, over quantity.

He's right on the money, people are growing weary of this consumerist life.
(GLP aka American Jedi)

Listen here you beautiful bitch, I'm about to fuck you up with some truth.
Kenny Powers

If you steal the dreams of others long enough, sooner or later you'll end up in a nightmare.
American Jedi

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Albert Einstein

Satis Eloquentiae, Sapientiae Parum....

"The last of the old?"

"No, the first of the new."
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Product contains no user serviceable parts or replacements inside.
Oregon Constitution Article I, Section 27

The people shall have the right to bear arms for the defence of themselves, and the State, but the Military shall be kept in strict subordination to the civil power.
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90 days warranty,
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This is what they are doing with the ps3 for years the lens just stops working then you buy or another lens or a new console.

Fucking basterds..i want to consume decent shit dammit...!!!



Peace
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This is what they are doing with the ps3 for years the lens just stops working then you buy or another lens or a new console.

Fucking basterds..i want to consume decent shit dammit...!!!



Peace
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Here is the perfect example of why things are so screwed up...here the world is going to hell and this guy is worried about a freaking video game

"Beam me up Scotty, there seems to be no intelligent life left here"
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It's a crime on planet Iarga
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Try fixing shit before you throw it out.
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I'll never forget my first day of Marketing 101 my professor told us this same thing.

How she had worked at top fortune 500 companies that specifically direct engineers and manufacturers to make products that last x number of years based upon a desired marketing and profit horizon. "They don't make 'em like they used to for a reason" she said.

The concept was sadly on 95% of the class, but, a few of us 'got it.'
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Anyone notice how the core of a bar of soap barely produces soap lather?

It's because it isn't made of the main ingredient like the outside of the soap bar is...it's made of slag.

Slag is a filler made up of cheaper ingredients mixed with soap dust, slivers, and other by products left over in the process for making the actual outer bar.
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If Microsoft made a bug free, anti hack, no need to upgrade OS, the first time, we'd never have an industry of techs and stores that fix them.

Designed to fail, for financial reasons. If they made it perfect, they would go out of business.
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guess it helps to post the link

[link to www.forbes.com]
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nice link op. hf

they have removed the full length lightbulb conspiracy documentary from the web now.
It is 52 mins and has english subs.....I can only find this version without the end subs:

[link to vimeo.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28440474


A light bulb constructed by Thomas Edison is still operational at the Livermore Fire Department. The bulb was first installed as early as 1901, no one is sure of the exact date.

Here is the link: [link to www.roadsideamerica.com]

Here is a video of the light bulb in operation: [link to www.youtube.com]

Summary, light bulbs do not have to fail. They are designed to fail.

Tesla
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I plan to continue to use incandescent light bulbs---they are cheaper, provide heat, don't hurt my eyes, and aren't dangerous if they break. I've been buying up a stock since they are so cheap now, in anticipation of them not being available in future. Studies have shown that energy saving bulbs do NOT save the energy they claim to. It was just a ploy to get people to buy something new.

People are somewhat at fault, as well. Scratch on the washing machine? Gotta get a new one. Toaster broke, crack in an appliance? Instead of fixing it, most buy a new one.

I've been waging a war against consumerism for a couple years now. Planned obsolescence was talked about back in the 1960's! I keep everything in good repair, and when I do have to replace something, I check out the second hand stores first. Amazing how many times I've found just what I needed, still new in the box. If I can’t pay cash, I don’t buy it. If I can make do without something, I don’t buy it.

What I hate is having to upgrade the computer and software so often. That gets expensive!

Our need to have the latest, flashiest "stuff" (remember George Carlin?), has resulted in huge landfills. Some people never even consider giving their used goods to a second hand store, which is too bad. People could use it, and often can't afford to buy new.
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I drive a 12 year old car because it still works. I have the cheapest cell phone in the world, my computer is about 8 years old, works just fine, and I buy used stuff whenever possible. A little thought about what we're buying goes a long way. Oh yeah, I could give a crap about whether people think I'm affluent or not.
"When tyrants tremble in their fear, and hear their death knell ringing,
When friends rejoice both far and near, how can I keep from singing"

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This is what they are doing with the ps3 for years the lens just stops working then you buy or another lens or a new console.

Fucking basterds..i want to consume decent shit dammit...!!!



Peace
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Here is the perfect example of why things are so screwed up...here the world is going to hell and this guy is worried about a freaking video game

"Beam me up Scotty, there seems to be no intelligent life left here"
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I could not agree more. Ask the average idiot what they would do in a a carrington event, given that we have a 1 in 8 chance between now and 2020, and they just look at you like: "what? no NFL? no seXbox?"

Zero concern for HOW they would feed themselves or their family.

Last Edited by Mad Scientist (aka AmJedi) on 11/25/2012 05:47 PM
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Albert Einstein

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"The last of the old?"

"No, the first of the new."
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Our need to have the latest, flashiest "stuff" (remember George Carlin?), has resulted in huge landfills. Some people never even consider giving their used goods to a second hand store, which is too bad. People could use it, and often can't afford to buy new.
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i used to sen my used stuff to goodwill. i stopped because...

1. they are picky as hell now about what they will and wont take.

2. many times they price items higher than what i could or did buy the item for new.

other places are a pita to donate to because they are picky or have limited times and/or locations.

and no, i don't take them trash. used crt's that work, printers, clothes, bedding... they want to dig through piece by piece... take it all or dont take any!

i just post these items on my facebook now and give people a week to come get it. otherwise it goes to the dump. half the time someone wants something on facebook they expect delivery and set up.

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