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Thank you OP. I have been trying to get a root canal appointment for a week now because I have had anxiety about the infection getting worse. After reading this I am happy I did not get the dental procedure!
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It will continue to get worse until the abscess goes into the jaw bone and blood infection.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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Yeah, I would worry about the infection, too. Would for sure not just ignore it; try some of the possible remedies in that article. Keep trying until it goes away.

I've read that dental infections contribute to heart problems and other serious issues.
 Quoting: Ralph--a house dog


Don't listen to the OP. Holy fuck what is wrong with some of you nutjobs? If you fail to get a root canal then have the tooth PULLED. You do not fuck with an infected tooth. I delayed a root canal for almost 7 years and treating a reoccurring infection about every other 2 years. Last time around I had a serious enough infection that almost started eating into my jawbone. Listen to your doctors advice and leave it untreated at your own risk. Why anyone trusts medical advice coming from tin hat wearers is beyond me.
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I had a dentist who had a very hard time getting a crown to fit, it was just too high. He decided he would file the tooth above it down... I lost my mind, and got out of the chair. I could not believe he was going to file down a perfectly good tooth just to get it to fit to the crown he jacked up.
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You did not research and ask questions before having it done?

How could you not have known they have to file a tooth before placing a crown on it?
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Duh.

He was concerned that they would file the MATCHING tooth, the one ABOVE it, too.

Is that clear now? It was clear in his writing too by the way.
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Thank you OP. I have been trying to get a root canal appointment for a week now because I have had anxiety about the infection getting worse. After reading this I am happy I did not get the dental procedure!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28462194


It will continue to get worse until the abscess goes into the jaw bone and blood infection.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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Yeah, I would worry about the infection, too. Would for sure not just ignore it; try some of the possible remedies in that article. Keep trying until it goes away.

I've read that dental infections contribute to heart problems and other serious issues.
 Quoting: Ralph--a house dog


Don't listen to the OP. Holy fuck what is wrong with some of you nutjobs? If you fail to get a root canal then have the tooth PULLED. You do not fuck with an infected tooth. I delayed a root canal for almost 7 years and treating a reoccurring infection about every other 2 years. Last time around I had a serious enough infection that almost started eating into my jawbone. Listen to your doctors advice and leave it untreated at your own risk. Why anyone trusts medical advice coming from tin hat wearers is beyond me.
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Disregard this shill
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Thank you OP. I have been trying to get a root canal appointment for a week now because I have had anxiety about the infection getting worse. After reading this I am happy I did not get the dental procedure!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28462194


It will continue to get worse until the abscess goes into the jaw bone and blood infection.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: - 14012564


Yeah, I would worry about the infection, too. Would for sure not just ignore it; try some of the possible remedies in that article. Keep trying until it goes away.

I've read that dental infections contribute to heart problems and other serious issues.
 Quoting: Ralph--a house dog


Don't listen to the OP. Holy fuck what is wrong with some of you nutjobs? If you fail to get a root canal then have the tooth PULLED. You do not fuck with an infected tooth. I delayed a root canal for almost 7 years and treating a reoccurring infection about every other 2 years. Last time around I had a serious enough infection that almost started eating into my jawbone. Listen to your doctors advice and leave it untreated at your own risk. Why anyone trusts medical advice coming from tin hat wearers is beyond me.
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OP didn't tell you not to get it pulled. He recommended that, and a denture, instead of a root canal or an implant.
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11/25/2012 09:08 PM
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i have regrown a cavity yoda
closing eyes

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i havent been to the dentist in 14 years!
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I haven't gone in 10, brush my teeth possibly once or twice a week. No cavaties in that time period
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hiding

Doesn't your breath ever get funky or it feel like your teeth are wearing sweaters?
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No, you still brush them )
If you woke up breathing, you have another chance!
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11/25/2012 09:08 PM
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To # 28465368 Australia and others--

Thank you for reading this and for some well thought out comments.

I did say this article was INFLAMMATORY and controversial; also cited the source as I didn't write it but found it very interesting.

It seems to me that dental health and experiences with dentists are one of those areas where "your mileage may vary"
 Quoting: Ralph--a house dog


your welcome,and im glad this type of info mad to Naturalnews and to here,ive been researching for a little while and its been a very 'fringe'subject.
kudos to you Ralph-the house dog.
hf
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god has given us all we need
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What's your opinion of "dental cleaning"?

I went most of my life without it. When I went to the dentist they would brush my teeth with their more abrasive toothpaste, and that was it.

The past 5 or 10 years my dentists (and wife) have been pushing thorough "dental cleaning" which takes a half hour to an hour and hurts like hell. I feel like I've had a brawl in my mouth by the time it's over.

Is that a good procedure or not?
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I agree with everything you are saying, OP. Dentists have ruined my teeth and I now have lower dentures which cost me $6,000 and I need to get upper dentures soon which will cost around $8,000.
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11/25/2012 09:12 PM
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Thank you OP. I have been trying to get a root canal appointment for a week now because I have had anxiety about the infection getting worse. After reading this I am happy I did not get the dental procedure!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28462194


It will continue to get worse until the abscess goes into the jaw bone and blood infection.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: - 14012564


I don't feel I have a infection just a cavity idk tho
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28462194


If you think you do echinacea/goldenseal will help. Colloidal silver will help as well. Just read up on them before using.
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11/25/2012 09:18 PM
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For those of you interested in the abrasiveness of baking soda, here’s a chart of RDA (Relative Dentin Abrasiveness). Sources:
[link to socaldental.wordpress.com (secure)]
[link to www.teethwhiteningreviews.com]

Abrasiveness of toothpastes.
April 23, 2011

"Just thought I would share this table with the relative value of a lot of the toothpastes out there today. The lower the number the less abrasive it is."

table 2
Relative Dentin Abrasiveness of Dental Dentifrices
RDA Dentifrice brand and variety
04 ADA reference toothbrush and plain water
07 Plain baking soda
08 Arm & Hammer Tooth Powder
35 Arm & Hammer Dental Care
42 Arm & Hammer Advance White Baking Soda Peroxide
48 Arm & Hammer Dental Care Sensitive
49 Arm & Hammer Peroxicare Tartar Control
49 Tom’s of Maine Sensitive (given as 40s)
52 Arm & Hammer Peroxicare Regular
53 Rembrandt Original (“RDA”)
54 Arm & Hammer Dental Care PM Bold Mint
57 Tom’s of Maine Children’s, Wintermint (given as mid-50s)
63 Rembrandt Mint (“Hefferren RDA”)
68 Colgate Regular
70 Colgate Total
70 Arm & Hammer Advance White Sensitive
70 Colgate 2-in-1 Fresh Mint (given as 50-70)
79 Sensodyne
80 AIM
80 Close-Up
83 Colgate Sensitive Maximum Strength
91 Aquafresh Sensitive
93 93 Tom’s of Maine Regular (given as high 80s low 90s)
94 Rembrandt Plus
94 Plus White
95 Crest Regular (possibly 99)
101 Natural White
103 Mentadent
103 Arm & Hammer Sensation
104 Sensodyne Extra Whitening
106 Colgate Platinum
106 Arm & Hammer Advance White Paste
107 Crest Sensitivity Protection
110 Colgate Herbal
110 Amway Glister (given as upper bound)
113 Aquafresh Whitening
117 Arm & Hammer Advance White Gel
117 Arm & Hammer Sensation Tartar Control
120 Close-Up with Baking Soda (Canadian)
124 Colgate Whitening
130 Crest Extra Whitening
133 Ultrabrite
144 Crest MultiCare Whitening
145 Ultrabrite Advanced Whitening Formula
150 Pepsodent (given as upper bound)
165 Colgate Tartar Control (given as 155-165)
168 Arm & Hammer Dental Care PM Fresh Mint
175 Colgate Luminous (given as 150-200)
200 Colgate 2-in-1 Tartar Control/Whitening or Icy Blast/Whitening (given as 190-200)
200 FDA-recommended limit
250 ADA-recommended limit
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11/25/2012 09:20 PM
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I understand that hygienists do take many courses and learn much in their field. But I must suggest that some of that education is, shall we say, “one-sided”, and does not encourage the patent to think for themselves or use effective homeopathic remedies. It is also meant to centralize all authority with ADA/AMA, implying the average patient is incapable of responsible research and behavior.

From recent posts, sounds like the title of this thread is starting to live up to its name!
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Imo, yes, dentists and hygienists are trained a certain way and they impart the information they're given to patients.

However, there are, I believe, dentists who are more conservative and do take into account alternative ways of thinking and therefore they don't just state everything in a definitive, narrow-minded way.

I believe that people can certainly benefit from using baking soda and sea salt to clean their teeth and gums, and use various supplements for health, BUT there are times when one must seek the help of a dentist, most notably things like serious decay and infection.

In these times, it's very hard to find people in the medical fields who are honest and fair, and so the real key is to find someone like that who also understands moderation.
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11/25/2012 09:21 PM
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To # 28465368 Australia and others--

Thank you for reading this and for some well thought out comments.

I did say this article was INFLAMMATORY and controversial; also cited the source as I didn't write it but found it very interesting.

It seems to me that dental health and experiences with dentists are one of those areas where "your mileage may vary"
 Quoting: Ralph--a house dog


OP - to clarify, my reply was not to you directly, but rather in response to the article itself.
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11/25/2012 09:22 PM
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I've had some serious dental problems (caused by dentists!). Now, I brush my teeth with Dr. Bronner's peppermint soap three or four times/week, the rest of the time I use baking soda and sea salt. Great results.
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Dr. Bronner's peppermint soap! Isn't that still soap?

We have a bunch of the baby-mild (light blue label) in the house, would that work the same?
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11/25/2012 09:26 PM
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I agree with everything you are saying, OP. Dentists have ruined my teeth and I now have lower dentures which cost me $6,000 and I need to get upper dentures soon which will cost around $8,000.
 Quoting: MesaMom


How exactly did they "ruin" your teeth?
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11/25/2012 09:31 PM
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Sea salt is purported to help pull out infection, but if someone thinks they have a serious infection, I would not advise that they merely rely on this or anything else, as opposed to seeing a dentist.

Also, baking soda and sea salt are alleged to help tighten and strengthen gums. So this could be beneficial - after one has had a good cleaning to get bacteria out of pockets - to help keep the gums closed and keep out future bacteria.
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11/25/2012 09:34 PM
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I've never heard that the wisdom teeth contain stem cells that help other teeth regenerate. Link or anything?

I am in my mid 50's and still have all my teeth, and for about five years dentists have been advising me to get all my wisdom teeth removed, because one of them is getting very weak. If you get the top one removed you should get the bottom one removed too, and then if the right side once are gone pull the left ones too for symmetry. So because of one tooth, pull 4.

I've been procrastinating. I know they have experimentally been able to re-bud and regrow teeth in a lab or something, I've been waiting for that technology to show up at the dentist's office but now I don't hear about it any more! I didn't want them to kill my roots for those teeth if I could wait and regrow them.
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Acid kills teeth, not sugar.


Avoid all soda, carbonated drinks, acidic produce (oranges, grapefruit, berries (blueberries, strawberries, blackberries, cherries), plums, prunes, tomatoes, potatos, eggplant, etc., MEAT, EGGS, DAIRY, GRAINS, LEGUMES and all dried fruits.
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So what's left? A diet of just pills?
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11/25/2012 09:43 PM
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Acid kills teeth, not sugar.


Avoid all soda, carbonated drinks, acidic produce (oranges, grapefruit, berries (blueberries, strawberries, blackberries, cherries), plums, prunes, tomatoes, potatos, eggplant, etc., MEAT, EGGS, DAIRY, GRAINS, LEGUMES and all dried fruits.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28456534


You are wrong about grapefruit, (and probably some others), the end product of digesting grapefruit is alkaline so that is the net contribution it makes to your body's ph.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14518086


CORRECT...ACID DESTROYS TOOTH ENAMEL.

A mixture of water and little [1 teaspoon] baking soda rinse will neutralize the acidity in your mouth. And it's dirt cheap. Drink a glass and it'll take care of acid reflux also.
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11/25/2012 09:51 PM
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Anti Dentite rimshot
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lolsign

Seinfeld :)
Apollo astronauts couldn't have passed through Van Allen's Belt. Van Allen wore suspenders.
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Interesting thread. 5*s.
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I had an abscess tooth and couldn't get to my dentist (female) for the last 5 years. Called a friend who owns a small vitamin type store here in Scottsdale Az. He had on hand some liquid vitamin C he creates himself. I used the liquid C for a 24 hours before I could get to my dentist. When I did get in finally the abscess tooth had healed. My dentist wanted to know how this could be. Told her and she wanted to know how to make the formula. You can make it yourself, watch this video. The formula and how to is in the description. I take a 1oz. shot 2 times daily.



[link to www.youtube.com]


anaanaana
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I had an abscess tooth and couldn't get to my dentist (female) for the last 5 years. Called a friend who owns a small vitamin type store here in Scottsdale Az. He had on hand some liquid vitamin C he creates himself. I used the liquid C for a 24 hours before I could get to my dentist. When I did get in finally the abscess tooth had healed. My dentist wanted to know how this could be. Told her and she wanted to know how to make the formula. You can make it yourself, watch this video. The formula and how to is in the description. I take a 1oz. shot 2 times daily.



[link to www.youtube.com]


anaanaana
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PS: Never get a Root Canal you are introducing poisons directly into your system. My dentist had to agree with me about this fact.
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Been using coconut oil as a mouthwash for years with zero dental problems.
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Interesting. Never knew Coconut oil could be used as a rinse/wash. I've been using a Waterpik and a Braun Pro Care electric brush and it really is a thorough clean.
 Quoting: disinfoagent



Coconut oil is excellent for your gums and brushing with it regularly can eliminate bleeding, sore gums. The oil kills the bacteria that are responsible for gingivitis - and if you have gingivitis, you might want to massage some coconut oil into your gums regularly, in addition to using it in your toothpaste. Brushing your tongue with the oil helps with thrush, a fungal problem localized in the mouth, and to boot, coconut oil has been found to stop and even reverse some tooth decay.



Learn more: [link to www.naturalnews.com]
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have not been to dentist in 23 years.

Just went to be evaluated for braces or invisalign and a slick dentist tried to tell me I had cavities in my back molar. He charges 320 per filling and said I needed two.

went to another dentist/orthodontist to get evaluated and he said don't worry about the tooth, it's fine.

Glad I did not let the first guy clean my teeth like they were suggesting - he would have put holes in every tooth I bet..

Dr. Ellie (google her - in Austin TX) says don't floss and use xylitol

but she also says use Crest regular, listerine and also some other tooth rinse.

I use baking soda, clay (terramin) trader joe's toothpaste or Tom's without fluoride - rinse with xylitol sometimes and sometimes with colloidal silver

no cavities ever

saddened to hear I fucked up having them take out my wisdom teeth, but at least no cavities so far.

The info posted in the OP resonates with me and I will check out the bloodroot mouthwash for myself and my household

here is a link to get the stuff to make it:

[link to cart.embassyofheaven.net]
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do you know why she says you shouldn't floss?
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How do you reminieralize your teeth and how can you make a cavity cured? I would appreciate some links if anyone has them. I really enjoyed this post!
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if I did not feel so sad as I look at them. Sad because they do not know the truth and I do know it. Oh, how hard it is to be the only one who knows the truth! But they won't understand that. No, they won't understand it."
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Great info, OP!
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Acid kills teeth, not sugar.


Avoid all soda, carbonated drinks, acidic produce (oranges, grapefruit, berries (blueberries, strawberries, blackberries, cherries), plums, prunes, tomatoes, potatos, eggplant, etc., MEAT, EGGS, DAIRY, GRAINS, LEGUMES and all dried fruits.
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So what's left? A diet of just pills?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28008747


I eat all that stuff and my teeth are fine. Just rinse with water after eating.

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