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The aftermath of the Gaza truce: possible scenarios

 
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The aftermath of the Gaza truce: possible scenarios
[link to english.alarabiya.net]

i thought this was an interesting read and a good opinion piece for a launching place for a discussion here.

"Possible scenarios
In evaluating the results of the Israeli operation against Gaza we note the following:

The resistance organizations were seeking to restore the balance of terror, through rockets that target key residential conglomerations. But Israeli hostilities succeeded in diminishing the arsenal of rockets, especially from Islamic Jihad, as many strategic warehouses were destroyed while 1200 rockets were fired against Israel out of an estimated 2000, in addition to assassinating key military leaders in Hamas and Jihad.

The resistance proved to be able to manufacture locally mid-term rockets, which abolishes the efforts of monitoring smuggling routes.
This operation will certainly lead to more American pressure on Egypt to border control and stop the smuggling of weapons.

But the truce lacks any tangible steps after the confidence-building measures, while giving Egypt the responsibility of following up its implementation.
And it is unlikely that tangible steps will be taken to achieve Palestinian reconciliation in spite of the call from Hamas leader Khaled Meshaal to adopt a national political program based on resistance, while the Palestinian Authority’s priority is to get an observer status at the United Nations.

But most comments from Israeli security circles didn’t look optimistic about the extent of the ceasefire, adding that Hamas will decide when to violate it.

And they see that their biggest achievements were the protection of the Iron Dome, assassinating Hamas military leader Ahmad Al-Jaabari, hitting 1400 targets and destroying government buildings in Gaza. They also succeeded in winning international support to legitimize their acts and Egypt’s commitment to stop arm smuggling and guarantee the agreement. Israel’s success was also in getting the Muslim Brotherhood government to be mediators, and Hamas’ pledge to stop targeting Israel.

On the flip side, the results were as follows: Hamas’ ability to target Tel Aviv and Jerusalem, Hamas’ ability to go on fighting in spite of Al-Jaabari assassination, Israel’s refraining from launching a land invasion, with Hamas claiming that it deterred Israel from making this move."
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Re: The aftermath of the Gaza truce: possible scenarios
doom?
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Re: The aftermath of the Gaza truce: possible scenarios
Why doesn't Israel stop the blockade, give the Palestinians their rights back, Work with them to take down Hamas...

Instead of innocent civilians being caught in the middle of an absolutely ridiculous 'war'.
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HUMMM.. Bout time for red sunsets and Rice Krispy Treats.
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Re: The aftermath of the Gaza truce: possible scenarios
Why doesn't Israel stop the blockade, give the Palestinians their rights back, Work with them to take down Hamas...

Instead of innocent civilians being caught in the middle of an absolutely ridiculous 'war'.
 Quoting: Botanator


Because the "Palestinians" love Hamas, dumbass.

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Re: The aftermath of the Gaza truce: possible scenarios
Why doesn't Israel stop the blockade, give the Palestinians their rights back, Work with them to take down Hamas...

Instead of innocent civilians being caught in the middle of an absolutely ridiculous 'war'.
 Quoting: Botanator


Because the "Palestinians" love Hamas, dumbass.

:nosepick:
 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh


Are they meant to support Israel?
Who continues to build illegal settlements in their land?
Giving them limited resources such as medical equipment, water, electricity, etc.

They support Hamas because they THINK it's best for them. If Israel actually showed they believe in the Palestinian people, I don't think Hamas would get much support.

But I guess you wan't to continue to watch innocent Palestinians, and Israeli's killed in a rather pointless 'war'.
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They support Hamas because they THINK it's best for them. If Israel actually showed they believe in the Palestinian people, I don't think Hamas would get much support.
 Quoting: Botanator


Israelis need to get together, hold hands with the Palestinians, sing a happy song, full of love and peace. Then plant a big wet kiss on their lips. That will solve the problem.

If Americans had done something like that, 9-11 would never have occurred and the Twin Towers still would be standing today.

Libtardism is truly stupid.
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Re: The aftermath of the Gaza truce: possible scenarios
Why doesn't Israel stop the blockade, give the Palestinians their rights back, Work with them to take down Hamas...

Instead of innocent civilians being caught in the middle of an absolutely ridiculous 'war'.
 Quoting: Botanator



Israel gave Gaza Autonomy, then in free Elections the PEOPLE chose Hamas to lead them!

So who's fault is it? the Palestinians in Gaza.
If the blockade is lifted what will they do?
Smuggle in weapons for use against Israel, just as they continually try to do.
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Re: The aftermath of the Gaza truce: possible scenarios
Why doesn't Israel stop the blockade, give the Palestinians their rights back, Work with them to take down Hamas...

Instead of innocent civilians being caught in the middle of an absolutely ridiculous 'war'.
 Quoting: Botanator


Because the "Palestinians" love Hamas, dumbass.

nosepick
 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh


Are they meant to support Israel?
Who continues to build illegal settlements in their land?
Giving them limited resources such as medical equipment, water, electricity, etc.

They support Hamas because they THINK it's best for them. If Israel actually showed they believe in the Palestinian people, I don't think Hamas would get much support.

But I guess you wan't to continue to watch innocent Palestinians, and Israeli's killed in a rather pointless 'war'.
 Quoting: Botanator


You are so completely mis-informed, I don't even know where to start. Coupled with your total ignorance of the way things are, I don't think I'll waste the time.

Try getting your news from somewhere other than Al Jizzera.
Tell me what this tastes like...
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Re: The aftermath of the Gaza truce: possible scenarios
They support Hamas because they THINK it's best for them. If Israel actually showed they believe in the Palestinian people, I don't think Hamas would get much support.
 Quoting: Botanator


Israelis need to get together, hold hands with the Palestinians, sing a happy song, full of love and peace. Then plant a big wet kiss on their lips. That will solve the problem.

If Americans had done something like that, 9-11 would never have occurred and the Twin Towers still would be standing today.

Libtardism is truly stupid.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28453758


yes
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Radical Islamist would just find some other horse shit to use an excuse to attack 'the great satan'. It's all bullshit.
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Aren't we suppose to learn from history?

The truce is for Hamas to rearm. Simple as that.
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Pointless war? It's the holy war!
These people are irrational.
They won't surrender. They won't stop.
The majority was brought up to fight and hate the declared enemy.

Do you want to surrender and live by their laws?
It's them or us.
If they choose to ride a real attack they must be annihilated.

Israel gained more intelligence from the endless drone flights.
Has to be analyzed. Takes time.
The iron dome had a real life test and the fuzzy logic learned what it takes.

All lined up for more.
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Re: The aftermath of the Gaza truce: possible scenarios
Why doesn't Israel stop the blockade, give the Palestinians their rights back, Work with them to take down Hamas...

Instead of innocent civilians being caught in the middle of an absolutely ridiculous 'war'.
 Quoting: Botanator


Because the "Palestinians" love Hamas, dumbass.

:nosepick:
 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh


Are they meant to support Israel?
Who continues to build illegal settlements in their land?
Giving them limited resources such as medical equipment, water, electricity, etc.

They support Hamas because they THINK it's best for them. If Israel actually showed they believe in the Palestinian people, I don't think Hamas would get much support.

But I guess you wan't to continue to watch innocent Palestinians, and Israeli's killed in a rather pointless 'war'.
 Quoting: Botanator


You are so completely mis-informed, I don't even know where to start. Coupled with your total ignorance of the way things are, I don't think I'll waste the time.

Try getting your news from somewhere other than Al Jizzera.
 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh


If you think Israel's the victim and Israel are 'defending themselves' then you are mis-informed. I assume you listen to CNN and BBC news with your ideology.
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Because the "Palestinians" love Hamas, dumbass.

:nosepick:
 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh


Are they meant to support Israel?
Who continues to build illegal settlements in their land?
Giving them limited resources such as medical equipment, water, electricity, etc.

They support Hamas because they THINK it's best for them. If Israel actually showed they believe in the Palestinian people, I don't think Hamas would get much support.

But I guess you wan't to continue to watch innocent Palestinians, and Israeli's killed in a rather pointless 'war'.
 Quoting: Botanator


You are so completely mis-informed, I don't even know where to start. Coupled with your total ignorance of the way things are, I don't think I'll waste the time.

Try getting your news from somewhere other than Al Jizzera.
 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh


If you think Israel's the victim and Israel are 'defending themselves' then you are mis-informed. I assume you listen to CNN and BBC news with your ideology.
 Quoting: Botanator


Good luck...seems like 90% of the posters here are coming here directly after brainwashing from MSM. And also the bible.

This whole thing is like one giant american superbowl. You HAVE to choose a side and the ones that say the entire things is complete and utter bullshit are unamerican, godless, crackpots.

Planet earth is fucked.
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Re: The aftermath of the Gaza truce: possible scenarios
Why doesn't Israel stop the blockade, give the Palestinians their rights back, Work with them to take down Hamas...

Instead of innocent civilians being caught in the middle of an absolutely ridiculous 'war'.
 Quoting: Botanator


That would make the Israelis WRONG... and if there's one thing I know about every Jew I've ever known, is that they're stubborn people.

Last Edited by drex on 11/25/2012 03:23 PM
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Re: The aftermath of the Gaza truce: possible scenarios
Why doesn't Israel stop the blockade, give the Palestinians their rights back, Work with them to take down Hamas...

Instead of innocent civilians being caught in the middle of an absolutely ridiculous 'war'.
 Quoting: Botanator


there are no "innocent civilians" in Islam; they are ALL combatants.
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Pointless war? It's the holy war!
These people are irrational.
They won't surrender. They won't stop.
The majority was brought up to fight and hate the declared enemy.

Do you want to surrender and live by their laws?
It's them or us.
If they choose to ride a real attack they must be annihilated.

Israel gained more intelligence from the endless drone flights.
Has to be analyzed. Takes time.
The iron dome had a real life test and the fuzzy logic learned what it takes.

All lined up for more.
 Quoting: Howard 27974251


You are pretty much spot on. It really will eventually come down to Us or Them.

Us will not lose. Not now or ever.
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Pink Cat seems to get a lot more pins since she became a mod.
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Re: The aftermath of the Gaza truce: possible scenarios
Why doesn't Israel stop the blockade, give the Palestinians their rights back, Work with them to take down Hamas...

Instead of innocent civilians being caught in the middle of an absolutely ridiculous 'war'.
 Quoting: Botanator


there are no "innocent civilians" in Islam; they are ALL combatants.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28448706


Then by your logic, all Israelis are terrorists.
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Re: The aftermath of the Gaza truce: possible scenarios
Why doesn't Israel stop the blockade, give the Palestinians their rights back, Work with them to take down Hamas...

Instead of innocent civilians being caught in the middle of an absolutely ridiculous 'war'.
 Quoting: Botanator


there are no "innocent civilians" in Islam; they are ALL combatants.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28448706


Then by your logic, all Israelis are terrorists.
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the Israelis are my friend. the people of Islam are my enemy.
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Re: The aftermath of the Gaza truce: possible scenarios
Why doesn't Israel stop the blockade, give the Palestinians their rights back, Work with them to take down Hamas...

Instead of innocent civilians being caught in the middle of an absolutely ridiculous 'war'.
 Quoting: Botanator


I don't think you understand how Islam works. At a certain point, Islam can no longer accept a balance of power -- it must take over. As the only non-Islamic country in the middle east, Islam will never rest until they have consumed Israel. Give them an inch and they will take a mile. Do not be fooled by the Palestinian cries of abuse -- it is a monster that Israel cannot afford to let out of the cage.
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Re: The aftermath of the Gaza truce: possible scenarios
The post I made last night on this subject, and how it is just a continuous, never-ending scenario, going on with Israel, was deleted, because I called out 'Trinity', on what he posted a week or so ago saying that "THIS IS IT"...

seems that he is wrong, and doesn't want to be reminded about a failed doom prediction, which every other tom, prick, and jenny doomer on here posts every other day...

I understand deleting threads for certain reasons, but when someone calls out the host of this site on an obvious fail, well that is just lame LOL...
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Re: The aftermath of the Gaza truce: possible scenarios
Why doesn't Israel stop the blockade, give the Palestinians their rights back, Work with them to take down Hamas...

Instead of innocent civilians being caught in the middle of an absolutely ridiculous 'war'.
 Quoting: Botanator


I don't think you understand how Islam works. At a certain point, Islam can no longer accept a balance of power -- it must take over. As the only non-Islamic country in the middle east, Islam will never rest until they have consumed Israel. Give them an inch and they will take a mile. Do not be fooled by the Palestinian cries of abuse -- it is a monster that Israel cannot afford to let out of the cage.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18942840


Same holds true for all nations where Islam relocates. All of those nations will face the same threat eventually. This is a very slow game of Islamic Risk. Its their intention to overthrow the entire world. And they just might get it done.
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War & Fear worked on getting the people to leave Gaza hope they can return.

I guess if they dont Jewish settlers will take there place.
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Re: The aftermath of the Gaza truce: possible scenarios
The post I made last night on this subject, and how it is just a continuous, never-ending scenario, going on with Israel, was deleted, because I called out 'Trinity', on what he posted a week or so ago saying that "THIS IS IT"...

seems that he is wrong, and doesn't want to be reminded about a failed doom prediction, which every other tom, prick, and jenny doomer on here posts every other day...

I understand deleting threads for certain reasons, but when someone calls out the host of this site on an obvious fail, well that is just lame LOL...
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bump for the slow minded...we all know you are there...
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Re: The aftermath of the Gaza truce: possible scenarios
The post I made last night on this subject, and how it is just a continuous, never-ending scenario, going on with Israel, was deleted, because I called out 'Trinity', on what he posted a week or so ago saying that "THIS IS IT"...

seems that he is wrong, and doesn't want to be reminded about a failed doom prediction, which every other tom, prick, and jenny doomer on here posts every other day...

I understand deleting threads for certain reasons, but when someone calls out the host of this site on an obvious fail, well that is just lame LOL...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15257059


bump for the slow minded...we all know you are there...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15257059



oh wait, this thread is pinned...quickly, lose the pin!!!

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