Thinking of bugging out to the country? Think again.

Wow, you really are a fucking idiot.

As much as I would love to bug out to the country I do have to admit that I would have no clue as to what to do.

I have lived in a big city all of my life, I can barely take care of a houseplant LOL.

I would be willing to learn and work really hard but I know that I wouldn't be able to do it alone.

I hate the Fruitloops from EWG, but they do have the lowdown on government subsidy payments to farmers in the US. You would be surprised what some of the big operations pull in from this government welfare.

[link to farm.ewg.org]

you forgot one criteria: some of us were raised in the country and can always go back

If an "event" occurs during the height of a cities' rush hour, bugging out will not be an option. Pray nothing happens in your town when you are stuck on one of those freeways with "sound barrier" walls built on both sides, and traffic at a standstill. An EMP would render every car useless. You're pretty much gonna be fucked, a victim, or at the mercy of whoever is, or becomes, in charge.
You can't bug out when you're swamped in a sea of insane people trying to "get out".

it called natural collectiveisn and it fucks everything up

everything becomes an exportport and he has to expand past his resources to keep up

bolshevik bullshit

more like a mental midget, i'd say....

600 may sustain life but your sure not going to have the strength to work the land.

great post OP. let the city folk dream though ,,, its all they have.

Basically anyone heading out from the cities to the country is going to be dinner.

I would not get to feeling too confident OP.


During WW II......the Nazis did not just hang out in the big cities.......but took over the small towns and country areas as well.


During chaos..........you are not just going to have a few white accountants coming out your way.


You will have hoardes of hungry people of all different races with guns and half out of their minds.


Then later on the troops will come.


So I would not feel so safe if I were you......on a little farm.


Only those who make it to the mountains and heavily forested areas will be safe. You will need to know how to live on the move...and off the land....like the guerilla fighters in Afgan and other places.

Not really. Sounds like you haven't been to the country. The poor rough country exists as does what the OP describes. People actually still lug water, have little to no electricity and use outhouses, in some parts of rural areas.

I have a hard time believing it is city transplants getting legislation passed on how many pigs you can own or things concerning farming. Sounds like factory farm moves to me. Why would a fellow small former care? A huge factory farm, however would like to put the little guys out if business.

Hah! All you have to do is name your livestock and they officially become family pets... and are legal in most urban settings. Love this guy. Hope he moves to higher ground and gets himself set up in a safe location... REAL SOON!!!

and pigs are ment to be scavengers/garbage clean up eat anything

not for eating

kind of like cow are ment to be oxen and yaks

but stupid ass commies are all about hard work and no time for anything else

Don't forget, OP, you also need to be mechanic. Your machinery needs upkeep and you just can't haul it off to a repairman when the tractor or combine give you trouble.

I grew up on an Iowa farm - crops and livestock. Once grown, I lived w/my husband west of Wichita, KS for a number of years (as a city couple living in the country as we didn't farm). It drove me nuts to have all these other city people moving out to their 10 acres and then all they did was bitch that the farmers drove their equipment too slowly on the roads, the farmers were burning off their wheat fields and contaminating their pools, the farmers' cows smelled... I just wanted to tell them to shut the F up or move back to the city.

A properly set up aqua-phonic system in your backyard will provide you with plenty of vegetables and protein for a fraction of the effort traditional farms use.

Why aren't you setting up half a dozen small aqua-phonic systems instead of wasting so much labor and water on a old-fashioned garden? (Aqua phonic systems grow the same amount of food with 90% less water usage).

[link to www.theaquaponicsgarden.com]

DarthDAS, you are correct about hectares being harder "to defend". Ranching is much different from subsistence farming, tho. Been there, done that, and have the T-shirt to prove it. We only had 120+ acrea & keeping two-legged vermin under control was...interesting. Bloody poachers! Most of it was fallow & scrub or wooded. Great for habitat & hunting.

An acre of land under square-foot crop production can & does produce an abundance of food stuffs. The key is knowing how to rotate crops properly to avoid depleting the Earth. That and knowing how to composte if animal manure isn't available. AND knowing what crops will grow in ones region and/or are indigenous.

Someone said goats? Yippeeeee! Goats: Milk, cheese, meat, "wool", organic composte fortifier, and Weed Whacker. They can also be taught to pull carts. Their horns make great lances, too. One ram to three or so ewes is plenty for a small family. (I don't prefer line breeding and would want to know someone I could out-breed with.)

Yes, people coming into a community and demanding changes to an established way of life is the pits. Geese kick up a ruckus & racket. Sorry you can hear it a mile away in your luxury manse with 1/2-acre manicured lawn & gourmet herb terrace. There's always hope for them, tho. They might barter a few culinary herbs for a knit scarf & mittens.

Yeah farming is not quantum physics ,










its a lot harder






If you make it out too the country , you will be the castrated livestock, is what it sounds like

Yeah, I know farmers too. They have seeds costs, herbicides, tractors, diesel, irrigation, etc. Some do well, some don't. Wonder how much of the 996k was profit?

Wow, well I guess everything in the big cities is going to be fine after all. Phew, I thought there might be some looting, fire-setting, breakin-ins, rape, armed robbery. But you have assured me by your impeccable logic and first hand experience that all the city folk will be dealing with it just like rural people.

Wow is that ever a relief.

Once Barack Mugabe gets done confiscating all rural property, there will be no place to bug out to !

A) Money.

B) Infrastructure maintenance

Right now, my garden gets tilled up front by pigs. They also fertilize it. Then, outside of seed, my garden only costs me labor. Setting up a hydroponic system is not cheap on the front end, and requires continuous maintenance. As we de-industrialize, those materials will be harder to come by. Not to mention that hydroponic systems rely upon electricity to keep the water filtered and circulated. My gardens are watered by the clouds.

Are they Black Simmetal? They look sort of like it.

i have a sailboat i can bug out,I dont need land but once a month.

If anyone is thinking of bugging out to Appalachia, watch the movie Deliverence first.

I was in walmart today and every person was like a pushy, impatient mememe douchebag. You can bet your ass I will be taking my chances in the woods compared with fending off the hoards of zombies that WILL descend on your home and your family's resources when bad planning and hunger kick in.

Bush survival should have a person going there years before and scattering around things like raspberry bushes etc and gardens are not square plots and you plant 2x as much as you need that way what gets eaten by the wildlife doesn't leave you without.
Nor is it going to remain without many others so expects lots of strangers as company, for the better or the worse.

Ahh c'mon you make it sound so much harder than it actually is.

I grew up on a 60 acre farm,, nothing special, but you get used to and it becomes nice. I now live in the city and would trade it for the country in a second. Financially that wont work unfortunately. The City just sucks everything is close but theres so much less freedom, catching busses, get across the city then back the other way then this way. I wish we all lived in small villages

All sounded so easy, then you tried it. Good luck, keep the learning curve active. If you made it two years you will make it.