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s. d. butler User ID: 974819 United States 11/25/2012 04:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Next time to go to Church, don't forget your best Sunday clothes, your Bible, and your....gun? Quoting: Fighting Spartan [link to www.thedaily.com] good for them. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1342948 United States 11/25/2012 04:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Next time to go to Church, don't forget your best Sunday clothes, your Bible, and your....gun? Quoting: Fighting Spartan [link to www.thedaily.com] good for them. With the church shootings we have had in past few years, I think this is a good idea as well. I hope it doesn't come to pass, but I forsee Christian persecution increasing in the next few years, especially with a Liberal Progressive Marxist in charge. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1342948 United States 11/25/2012 05:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I hope it doesn't come to pass, but I forsee Christian persecution increasing in the next few years Quoting: Fighting Spartan Because doing what Jesus said and following him even into persecution on the cross is actually a bad idea?? I didn't say that my friend. I just don't want to see anyone being hurt or hunted. Do you? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 28462512 Germany 11/25/2012 05:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Next time to go to Church, don't forget your best Sunday clothes, your Bible, and your....gun? Quoting: Fighting Spartan [link to www.thedaily.com] Sick, Diseased Churches... Foolish Children 4/25/11 From The Lord, Our God and Savior - For All Those Who Have Ears to Hear Thus says The Lord, to all these sick and diseased children: You are all dying! You are passing from My sight!... FOOLISH CHILDREN!... The sound of My voice shall come to weary you. Day and night will I utter My judgments against you, because of all your adulteries you have committed against The Lord your God... I, The One True God! Each of you seek to justify yourselves, while casting stones at My servants... You are accursed in My sight! Therefore, I shall not withhold My correction, and My discipline shall be severe! Look at My Son, look at My beautiful Son... How do you see Him?... Your vision is marred! Your hearts are corrupted! You have all blinded yourselves to His image! For the multitude of these idols surround you, and your shame covers you still... Preaching, to My people, another “Jesus”!... YOU BROOD OF VIPERS! You shall all starve, as HE eats the fat of the land and gathers His spoil! You know not the voice of The Lord your God!... Lo, I have spit you out! With bitter tears I weep, as I tell you, I DO NOT KNOW YOU! I had sent My servants to you, yet you had no eyes to see. They spoke to you, yet you had no ears to hear. Therefore have I caused My sons to prophesy against you! THEREFORE SHALL I SPEAK AGAINST YOU! For your ways I do hate! All your pride and showmanship are a great perversion of My majesty! And when I called to you, saying, “COME OUT!”, you would not hear... You refused to listen! Churches of men, look on all you have done! You are trapped, ensnared by all your harlotries, which you have in common with your estranged mother, the catholic church... Satan shall devour you together! Yet many of you will come to sing in that Day! And though you are left desolate, and brought to utter ruin, I have reserved to Myself a great remnant from among you... A great multitude who shall sing for Me, even unto their dying breath... For I am God, and this is My will. My sons, I know this scroll, once eaten, is very sour in your stomachs. Yet know and understand, it will surely accomplish My purpose. And when I cause you to open your mouths, I shall speak, and I shall be very terrible unto them... I shall utter My judgments against this generation and tear this people... And as a piece of unshrunk cloth tears away from a garment, So shall this people be torn... I shall rend their hearts... A rent which is deep, a rent made wide... I AM THE LORD. More and free: [link to www.youtube.com] |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1342948 United States 11/25/2012 05:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I didn't say that my friend. I just don't want to see anyone being hurt or hunted. Quoting: Fighting Spartan Do you? One cannot prevent harm by bringing harm to another. Just like you cannot end hate with hate, murder with murder, and persecution with persecution. I'll have to disagree. If some deranged bastard comes into a church to shoot 10 people for simply wanting to excercise their 1st amendment rights and someone with a CCW stops it, then yes, a greater harm has been prevented. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 13843864 United States 11/25/2012 05:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'll have to disagree. Quoting: Fighting Spartan If some deranged bastard comes into a church to shoot 10 people for simply wanting to excercise their 1st amendment rights and someone with a CCW stops it, then yes, a greater harm has been prevented. Oh, a GREATER harm... If in church, someone is with a CCW, then that church and that person are hypocrites. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1342948 United States 11/25/2012 05:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'll have to disagree. Quoting: Fighting Spartan If some deranged bastard comes into a church to shoot 10 people for simply wanting to excercise their 1st amendment rights and someone with a CCW stops it, then yes, a greater harm has been prevented. Oh, a GREATER harm... If in church, someone is with a CCW, then that church and that person are hypocrites. |
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s. d. butler User ID: 974819 United States 11/25/2012 06:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I didn't say that my friend. I just don't want to see anyone being hurt or hunted. Quoting: Fighting Spartan Do you? One cannot prevent harm by bringing harm to another. Just like you cannot end hate with hate, murder with murder, and persecution with persecution. So if someone is intent on beating you to death you can't prevent that because it would be harmful? |
s. d. butler User ID: 974819 United States 11/25/2012 06:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'll have to disagree. Quoting: Fighting Spartan If some deranged bastard comes into a church to shoot 10 people for simply wanting to excercise their 1st amendment rights and someone with a CCW stops it, then yes, a greater harm has been prevented. Oh, a GREATER harm... If in church, someone is with a CCW, then that church and that person are hypocrites. I don't think so,self defense is very compatible. |
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s. d. butler User ID: 974819 United States 11/25/2012 06:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yeah, that is why Jesus went all Jackie Chan on the Romans who tried to crucify him! Wait, that's not what happened... Bit different, comparing Jesus and then to now. In any case if you don't believe in self defense and defense of others, that would be your business. Best of luck. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 28333398 United States 11/25/2012 07:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'll have to disagree. Quoting: Fighting Spartan If some deranged bastard comes into a church to shoot 10 people for simply wanting to excercise their 1st amendment rights and someone with a CCW stops it, then yes, a greater harm has been prevented. Oh, a GREATER harm... If in church, someone is with a CCW, then that church and that person are hypocrites. You are an Idiot. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 13843864 United States 11/25/2012 07:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bit different, comparing Jesus and then to now. In any case if you don't believe in self defense and defense of others, that would be your business. Quoting: s. d. butler Best of luck. Actually, times were much worse back then. A Roman soldier could kill you in the streets with no questions asked. Today, there is at least a make believe inquiry to appease the masses. Anyway, I am not Christian. I may be a pacifist at heart (because it's the Law) but I am no Jesus. I am a Palero. I am initiated under the spirit of War (Zarabada) and Love (Mama Chola). So yes, I love you. But cross me and I will bring hell to your fucking doors step. The topic isn't about me. It is about Christian churches contradicting what THEIR Lord taught. Peace. |
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s. d. butler User ID: 974819 United States 11/25/2012 07:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bit different, comparing Jesus and then to now. In any case if you don't believe in self defense and defense of others, that would be your business. Quoting: s. d. butler Best of luck. Actually, times were much worse back then. A Roman soldier could kill you in the streets with no questions asked. Today, there is at least a make believe inquiry to appease the masses. Anyway, I am not Christian. I may be a pacifist at heart (because it's the Law) but I am no Jesus. I am a Palero. I am initiated under the spirit of War (Zarabada) and Love (Mama Chola). So yes, I love you. But cross me and I will bring hell to your fucking doors step. The topic isn't about me. It is about Christian churches contradicting what THEIR Lord taught. Peace. There is no law that requires one to be a pacifist. Pacifist has a very specific meaning. In any case most people don't aggress against others because it is wrong, and not because it's against the law. Some may think differently but turning the other cheek doesn't mean letting yourself be slaughtered. |