Christianity. This guy walking the talk. Living like Jesus. Should we do the same?

Nahh, relax. He loves you and simply wants you to come home. You are so close.

I think your right...Your statement is supported quit strongly by scripture SEE Romans 9...I'll paste it below...:

And not only so, but also when Rebekah had conceived children by one man, our forefather Isaac, 11 though they were not yet born and had done nothing either good or bad—in order that God's purpose of election might continue, not because of works but because of him who calls— 12 she was told, “The older will serve the younger.” 13 As it is written, “Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated.”

14 What shall we say then? Is there injustice on God's part? By no means! 15 For he says to Moses, “I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion.” 16 So then it depends not on human will or exertion, but on God, who has mercy. 17 For the Scripture says to Pharaoh, “For this very purpose I have raised you up, that I might show my power in you, and that my name might be proclaimed in all the earth.” 18 So then he has mercy on whomever he wills, and he hardens whomever he wills.

19 You will say to me then, “Why does he still find fault? For who can resist his will?” 20 But who are you, O man, to answer back to God? Will what is molded say to its molder, “Why have you made me like this?” 21 Has the potter no right over the clay, to make out of the same lump one vessel for honorable use and another for dishonorable use? 22 What if God, desiring to show his wrath and to make known his power, has endured with much patience vessels of wrath prepared for destruction, 23 in order to make known the riches of his glory for vessels of mercy, which he has prepared beforehand for glory— 24 even us whom he has called, not from the Jews only but also from the Gentiles?

Video posted by this guy:
[link to www.calculatethecost.org]

God Bless this young man and keep him safe. I am going to try to remember Vincent each time I feel selfish and try to overcome it with an act of selflessness.

Fourth year doctorate and one day picked a verse to change his life. No, we should not do the same.

Just because this was his calling, doesn't mean everybody who turns to God is gonna end up on the street. It's an individual thing that everyone goes through, with individual results

Good to see you again.

That's true, that's works salvation and that is not of God.
[link to accordingtothescriptures.org]

That's the core of the religion of the world.

I feel sorry for this brainwashed stupid fool.

Awe, come on, be a bit more specific. Which brainwashed fool?

well my home has a leaky metal roof, is a cheap mobile home with multiple aging issues and the pot to piss in may fall thru the floor any day now. Some of us live this way. I would live on the street if it weren't for my current obligations.

Jesus when he walked this earth, after he started his ministry had no roof of his own, and he pissed where ever people pissed then. Think about it. And they took in only donations for necessities, as they were all officially just like me, unemployed.

I did not watch the film yet, because my net connection is too slow and jerky tonight.

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no, do what you do, others will do what they do, you're just a prick who's gotta hate on him lol

So is this guy a works salvation calvinist fatalist as there's hints about in the video?

Is he trying to work his way into heaven and does he really believe that people are not allowed to chose whom they want to serve? People are created in the image of God, that means they like God may do what they want, if they're just robots as calvinists and muslims say (fatalists) then nothing matters anyway, you have no say in anything and all we write here is predestined etc. so nothing matters, it's a retarded system by a retarded roman catholic John Calvin (a murderer and general scumbag), I do hope this guy doesn't believe that calvinist garbage, nor the arminian garbage (saying Salvation is not enough but you must keep your salvation by living perfect, that's so retarded it's not even funny).

It's good deeds Vincent does but if he thinks that doing good deeds will take him anywhere he's deluded, I hope it's not so but he wouldn't be the first one to be deluded that way.

actually that is not what he said. No one can come to the Father except by going thru the schools of whatever local universe one's soul arises in, in the case of our local Universe, they must go thru our MIchael. This is the teaching regiven in august 2010
Christ Michael WAS JESUS.



'I Am the Way, the Truth and the Life
By Christ Michael
Aug 27, 2010 - 9:45:07 AM


'I Am the Way, the Truth and the Life......-Christ Michael

‘'I Am the Way, the Truth and the Life. No man commeth unto the Father but by me''


This was a pivotal piece of teaching bequeathed by the Master Jesus when He walked your earth plane, yet no man truly understood its meaning. Man was not sufficiently ready to receive this truth then and is scarcely ready to receive it now. Yet it is significant that during these auspicious times when the planet is about to enter a new cycle of life where dimensions anew are to be experienced and earned, man must awaken to a higher understanding of himself and he can only do so if he understands Me. Milestones have been achieved by mortals in terms of advancement, yet spiritually they fail to attune themselves to a great truth that if understood could change the tenor of their existence and path of soul evolution. I come again this day to effort to explain this simple yet understated Truth.


I am the Way means that I am your ticket to a new destination. The ticket is only dispensed when a choice is knowingly made. You must choose Me through belief and active seeking and you will be given directions that will enable you to plot the coordinates that shall keep you on the path as you create an enduring alliance with Me. When you are able to make this choice you will clearly see that I Am the Way out of the illusion of mortality into the reality of immortality.


So we have primarily established that I Am the Way to eternal life. Yet eternal life can only be guaranteed for those who can find and free their inner God presence. It is I who shall direct you ones on the course that you must adopt to achieve this feat for first you must know Me before you can know yourself and be inclined to liberate that which is divine within you.


I would like to explore with you a different perspective of what it means when I say 'I AM the ‘'Way'.' The ‘'Way'' cannot be separated from the ‘'Light'' as the light brings clarity of purpose and engenders a clear path to the destiny of choice. The ‘'Way and the ‘'Light'' therefore go hand in hand. I say that the Way is the Light and I am the Way and therefore the Light.


Yet another perspective of the ‘'Way'' shall I offer to you. Did I not birth my creation from love, being the reason and root cause? Did I not create by way of electric light waves of motion from the stillness of my mind? Is it therefore not true to say that stillness motivated by love to create by light is the ‘'Way''? Can you therefore not see that the ‘'Way'' is Love and Light and that when you choose Me you choose Love and Light? If Love and Light is the foundation of your earthly journey you will have found the ‘'Way''.


Did I not think my creation into being? Am I therefore not within my creation? Is the ultimate goal not to return to Source? If I am my creation and within my creation then the only way back to the Source is through Me. Does this make sense to you ones who need to rationalize ME?


I AM the Way, I AM the Light and I AM the Love manifested in my creation. I created from a point of stillness through Light motion. Does this not mean that if you choose the ‘'Way'' you too can create all which you desire to create? The ‘'Way'' enables you to reflect and be all that the ‘'Way'' is for are you not also the ‘'Way'' through Oneness with Me? The Way you shall become when you find and know Me.


I AM the Truth.


Man fights amongst himself seeking to have his truth rendered as superior to another. Yet hardly do men know what Truth is. You cannot know Truth unless you know Me- The ‘'Way''. For the ‘'Way'' shall always lead to the Truth. Man has belittled the Truth by tainting it with his personal agendas. The Truth is never influenced. It is impartial. It is inexplicable and beyond rationalization. The Truth must be known and that knowledge comes from knowing Me. Man's truth mostly is generated by that which is external, seldom reconcilable with his inner knowing and void of inner validation.


The TRUTH JUST IS AND IS JUST. That which is Truth knows only balance. It is as still, steadfast and immutable as the Creator. There lies no mystery or magic in Truth. I can say no more except to remind you that Truth emanates from within you because its origin is divine.


When you choose the ‘'Way'', you choose the Truth and it is the Truth when known and accepted that shall lead you to attain the divine promise of eternal life. For at this point in your understanding you shall accept without hesitation that I AM THE LIFE, that which is eternal and so shall you be also when you can know this.


Beloveds the life I speak of is not of mortal orientation. It is life immortal to which I refer. Life resides only in the spirit not the flesh. The spirit is All- its longevity is guaranteed by the promise of eternal life. Yet eternal life is always a choice as much as a gift/promise. For I will never force my children to choose Me; they must freely make this choice. I can say to you that many have chosen to be uncreated instead of choosing Life. I wish to emphasize that even in your sphere of reality which is earth plane, you are eternal. Mortal death is merely a transition to allow the soul to take stock in order to determine the next level of experience needed along its ascending path.


You on earth during your incarnation must understand that your life on earth does not give you the freedom to do that which you please without being accountable or responsible. You do not, contrary to popular belief have one life to live. When you can understand that I am the Life and so too are you, then you will realize in your incarnation that what you do will always impact on the evolution of your immortal soul.


So what do I mean when I say ‘'No man commeth unto the Father but by me''.

The ultimate goal as I reminded you earlier is the return to the Source of ALL. Yet those created by Me can only return to the Source by Me for I AM THE WAY.


You cannot bypass Me to get to the Source for I AND MY FATHER ARE ONE.


You cannot fudge your way to the Source without Me for I AND MY FATHER ARE ONE.


You cannot cajole your way to the Source without me for I AND MY FATHER ARE ONE.


You cannot say that Christ Michael does not exist and seek to make your way back to the Source for I AND MY FATHER ARE ONE.


You cannot believe in the Source and not in Me for I AND MY FATHER ARE ONE.


You cannot know of Me, denounce Me and choose the Source for I AND MY FATHER ARE ONE.

When you know me, see me and hear me you will see, hear and know the Father, the Source- the Centre of All. I AND MY FATHER ARE ONE. You must become ONE WITH ME for I AM the Way to the Source.

My beloved children, it was a delight to once again effort to explain what this most crucial teaching means. I trust that I have brought clarity and ask that you ponder these words and see whether enlightenment dawns.


I am Christ Michael Aton, come this day to bring the word again and thank this my child for being the emissary of the truth.


Hazel



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Just stop it already. Please. You preach evil crap.

And stop spamming your bloody website! Geez...

Original Video from "Calculate The Cost" at

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Video posted by this guy:
[link to www.calculatethecost.org]

If you're referring to me, I was trying to keep it on track! This other guy "God Loves All" blasphemes God's Word every chance he can get. I'm sorry if you thought I was hijacking the thread. I was simply replying to his post.
Anyway, I'm out. I've seen enough of his bull today to make me feel quite sick.
Hope you have a great day OP

AMEN! Someone who gets it! Wow!

THIS is a REAL christian!

Look dumbo, this other guy is a woman of 65 years of age who happens to be in partnership with the returned Jesus Christ, and we run the 2nd Coming Organization called AbundantHope. I did not hijack the thread whatsoever. I simply made a statement that some of us, including Jesus live simple lives and that I had not yet view the video because of my inconsistent internet this evening, but I will do so, I book marked it.

Oh and somebody misposted the statement made by Jesus so I corrected that, with What Jesus REGAVE the world a couple years ago. Not hijacking by any means.

Makes 3 posts now, my first one as above, the 2nd one as to posting what Jesus actually taught and explained currently in modern form, since he is returned, and this to defend myself. Go play in your sandbox until you grow your MIND about how God actually works, which is what I TEACH in my personal service to Jesus whom I confer with every day and often board ship for meetings about this fucked up world. and it is fucked up and you christians have hugely helped fuck it up in your ignorant service to the antichrist Zionists.

I won't be posting again tonight here, I am done. I feel possibly that Australia is more than a bit upset about my posts in other threads. Tough shit. We are going to drag this very behind civilization into the cosmic age, kicking and screaming all the way if necessary.

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The ONLY THING that mattered to Jesus was/IS Doing The Will Of MY Father Which Art In Heaven.

Those who seek to emulate HIM are plainly deluded and without The Guidance of The Holy Spirit.

In garden of gaethsemane, Jesus Asked The Father 2x for "another way". HE DID NOT GIVE HIS LIFE WILLINGLY... let that sink in, and read the passage in John 18. HE Did Accept and DO The Father's Will, but not without twice seeking "another way"...

Pretty easy to understand why, once you've been Ezekiel 36 Born-Again:
26. A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.
27. And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.

Even more apparent that most who sought HIM were/are unable to Hear The Gospel with their heart: Thus in matthew 13 HE Explains why HE Teaches using parables:
11. He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.
12. For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath.
13. Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.
14. And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive:
15. For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.



Laodiceans are unwilling to Trust God, so they take refuge in their 'religion', doctrine, dogma and disavow God's Banner to the world, claiming to be a "friend of God", or "follower of Jesus"... All bullshit derived of rationalized conjecture.

Born-Agains are not followers of Jesus...
In John 17 HE Gives Witness that we, HIS People Abide With HIM and The Father.

When you Know The Father and Do HIS Will, live without sinning you are experiencing The Born-Again Life. Nothing there about following or emulating Jesus..


Christ asks Who are my mother and brethren?
From matthew ch 12:
46. While he yet talked to the people, behold, his mother and his brethren stood without, desiring to speak with him.
47. Then one said unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy brethren stand without, desiring to speak with thee.
48. But he answered and said unto him that told him, Who is my mother? and who are my brethren?
49. And he stretched forth his hand toward his disciples, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren!
50. For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.


Nowhere in The Gospel does Jesus Witness that we are to follow HIM, (literally). Consider again that which The Son Of Man says in matt 13; HE Will NOT Witness Plainly lest others seeking with intellect understand and then HE should have to heal them... Here in verse 15:

For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.



Jesus IS The Way Unto The Father.
HE is offended by Laodiceans, and likely Vince here is in their number.


Maranatha!!!

Dumbo? Wow, really hit a nerve hey. You talk about knowing God, you spout off about how well you know the Bible, about how you know Jesus. You also say Jesus is not the true Son of God, and that he didn't die for our sins. You blaspheme His name at every turn. YOU, dear sir/lady whatever you are, are the DUMBO. I hope you find the TRUE God one day. Because all you're doing right now is steering His children away from the TRUE Word.

The false, Roman-created Abrahamic faiths (Christian, Islam, and Catholicism) have done a fantastic job of dividing the world, as this thread so clearly illustrates. Even among those of the same "faith".

Faith is just another word for "belief without any supporting evidence".

Therefore "faith" should be considered a derogatory term, because if "faith" was used in any context other than religion, would be a laughable event.

I'll take a poke at it, you have no power at all.. Ami right?

Wow.

I think he just believed Jesus when He said not to worry about food and clothing, and to give all who asked.

But if you need to make it a "works" thing....maybe you should ask Jesus if HE felt the need to do "works" to get to Heaven?