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I hope the Mexicans and other indigenous people of the American continent take back their land.

 
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All you European immigrant cunts living in America should fuck off back your shitty rightful ancestral lands. Fucking wankers. And you have the cheek to call Mexicans "illegal aliens" because one of your immigrant shitty crack leaders decided to put up artificial borders. I hope all the native peoples of the world take back their rightful lands.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28502673


The whites are not good, true. But do you know what was going on in the Americas when the whites arrived? Of course you don't. The peaceful natives were engaging in every possible act of barbarism. They were murdering each other. They were cannibalizing each other. Rape, slaughter...you name it. Some tribes were raising other tribes like cattle as slaves and for food. YES FOOD.

Everyone looks so much more noble on paper.


What you are doing is kinda like talking about slavery without mentioning the fact that BLACKS SOLD BLACKS TO WHITES, isn't it.
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spores traveld troughout the us,coz im here now,thats what i meant... what can u do,thats geography for you
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Only immigrants understand that. They are a special case...
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To explain better,, immigrants remember a home and it is understandable if they pine nostalgic and teach their kids the ways of the homeland. That is natural. However, I am not referring to those special cases in my posts. The ones pining and whining have no home over there, they are here and have always been here. So what is their excuse?
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All you European immigrant cunts living in America should fuck off back your shitty rightful ancestral lands. Fucking wankers. And you have the cheek to call Mexicans "illegal aliens" because one of your immigrant shitty crack leaders decided to put up artificial borders. I hope all the native peoples of the world take back their rightful lands.
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and I hope that if the market for goofy ideas ever hits $1000, I can get the drilling rights to your head

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spores traveld troughout the us,coz im here now,thats what i meant... what can u do,thats geography for you
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Only immigrants understand that. They are a special case...
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To explain better,, immigrants remember a home and it is understandable if they pine nostalgic and teach their kids the ways of the homeland. That is natural. However, I am not referring to those special cases in my posts. The ones pining and whining have no home over there, they are here and have always been here. So what is their excuse?
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well i have a son with an american and he is for damn sure gona speak the old language plus this baby language english that spawned from it :)
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All you European immigrant cunts living in America should fuck off back your shitty rightful ancestral lands. Fucking wankers. And you have the cheek to call Mexicans "illegal aliens" because one of your immigrant shitty crack leaders decided to put up artificial borders. I hope all the native peoples of the world take back their rightful lands.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28502673


So tired of stupid, false arguments.

The best current theories are that Solutreans (from what is now France), migrated to the eastern part of the North American Continent.

Immigration (NOT "indigenous" at all) to the western side of the North American Continent may have crossed the Bering Strait from SIBERIA and other parts of Asia. So the Native Americans were never "indigenous." In fact, their own histories tell of the people who inhabited this continent even as they themselves migrated. Those histories tell us that the original inhabitants of this continent were all victims of genocide perpetrated by the Indians.

The Mexicans are primarily a mix of European Spanish and the "natives" who were - HELLO - also of Siberian descent.

So, it is what you term the "indigenous" people of this continent who need to return to either Siberia or France.

Oh, and the best evidence (from remains and the Indians' own histories) indicates that the people who were already here when the SIBERIANS migrated to this continent were what we now call Caucasian.

As they say, you can fool some of the people most of the time.... How sad you actually appear to take pride in proving that statement.
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11/28/2012 01:15 AM
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All you European immigrant cunts living in America should fuck off back your shitty rightful ancestral lands. Fucking wankers. And you have the cheek to call Mexicans "illegal aliens" because one of your immigrant shitty crack leaders decided to put up artificial borders. I hope all the native peoples of the world take back their rightful lands.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28502673


There are some stupid motherfuckers on this board. Most Latin-Americans are of complete European Descent. Even the darker ones are mostly White they just happen to have Arab blood.

Mestizo is something coined by the racist Spanish regime that conquered the Americas. Latin Americans are no more likely to be mixed with "Indians" than are North Americans. Across the Americas, the native population was wiped out. The US army took care of that in the north while Hernan Cortez and Francisco Pizarro took care of the rest. Most Latin Americans identify as White in their respective countries.

Get a clue, retard.
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^^^This is the most ignorant shit and full of falsehood shit on this shitty racist board.

Your soul doesn't get to rewrite history just so it can rest. NOPE.
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All you European immigrant cunts living in America should fuck off back your shitty rightful ancestral lands. Fucking wankers. And you have the cheek to call Mexicans "illegal aliens" because one of your immigrant shitty crack leaders decided to put up artificial borders. I hope all the native peoples of the world take back their rightful lands.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28502673


So tired of stupid, false arguments.

The best current theories are that Solutreans (from what is now France), migrated to the eastern part of the North American Continent.

Immigration (NOT "indigenous" at all) to the western side of the North American Continent may have crossed the Bering Strait from SIBERIA and other parts of Asia. So the Native Americans were never "indigenous." In fact, their own histories tell of the people who inhabited this continent even as they themselves migrated. Those histories tell us that the original inhabitants of this continent were all victims of genocide perpetrated by the Indians.

The Mexicans are primarily a mix of European Spanish and the "natives" who were - HELLO - also of Siberian descent.

So, it is what you term the "indigenous" people of this continent who need to return to either Siberia or France.

Oh, and the best evidence (from remains and the Indians' own histories) indicates that the people who were already here when the SIBERIANS migrated to this continent were what we now call Caucasian.
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So this evidence of a Caucasion tribe way up in the mountains of Asia, show the dna from indigenous people blood samples and analyses. I am open to new ideas. And Siberian, eh? To what extent, 100%, 2%? Got an answer? And while you are at it what dna markers infer where the Siberians come from? Or did they just spring forth from the native mud like the Caucasions?

And please elaborate this idea of yours that an immigrant is someone whose ancestors go back thousands and thousands and thousands of years.

We seem to have a disagreement on what indigenous means.... Mine being people for and of this land... an identity issue even more important than ancient lineage... ie Who, not necessarily what you are...
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11/28/2012 02:36 AM
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anytime you're feeling froggy, shitbag.

oh wait.

you're just a punk kid from down under.

isn't that code for "cock-suckers"?
Liberal Logic - Demanding that the government stay out of their bedrooms while insisting on taxpayer funded birth control.
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11/28/2012 03:03 AM
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Mexican are siberians? OMG, this Mexico dude is so lost! Sorry but Caucasians are not Mexicans and vice versa, get a clue. Wow you need to read or something.
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All you European immigrant cunts living in America should fuck off back your shitty rightful ancestral lands. Fucking wankers. And you have the cheek to call Mexicans "illegal aliens" because one of your immigrant shitty crack leaders decided to put up artificial borders. I hope all the native peoples of the world take back their rightful lands.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28502673


The whites are not good, true. But do you know what was going on in the Americas when the whites arrived? Of course you don't. The peaceful natives were engaging in every possible act of barbarism. They were murdering each other. They were cannibalizing each other. Rape, slaughter...you name it. Some tribes were raising other tribes like cattle as slaves and for food. YES FOOD.

Everyone looks so much more noble on paper.


What you are doing is kinda like talking about slavery without mentioning the fact that BLACKS SOLD BLACKS TO WHITES, isn't it.
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You are correct.
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Mexican are siberians? OMG, this Mexico dude is so lost! Sorry but Caucasians are not Mexicans and vice versa, get a clue. Wow you need to read or something.
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The other poster said indigenous Americans immigrated from Siberia (or something like that) and, I believe, it was 15,000 years ago over the Alaska Kamchatka land bridge.

That is orthodox theory barring new evidence, of course.

The question I asked was to what extent does the dna show the proportion being Siberian, or Mongol, or Asian. That begs a question: where does the other proportion come from?

My thoughts are that there were several avenues of entry into the Americas over many, many thousands of years,,, not just one. And their impact, if any, make up the dna of indigenous people either all of them or in pockets.
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the ones with the big ugly fucking mouths.
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"All you European immigrant cunts living in America should fuck off back your shitty rightful ancestral lands. Fucking wankers."

"LOL cunts, the land you're living on will never be yours."

Ok dude.
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there's a special place in my night vision scope for you my friend. lol just kidding I'm a liberal retard who can't help myself from helping the pigs who have infested our land.. just kidding lol. I love all a legal immigrant and I hope I can give them everything I have.
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Mexican are siberians? OMG, this Mexico dude is so lost! Sorry but Caucasians are not Mexicans and vice versa, get a clue. Wow you need to read or something.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25788477


The other poster said indigenous Americans immigrated from Siberia (or something like that) and, I believe, it was 15,000 years ago over the Alaska Kamchatka land bridge.

That is orthodox theory barring new evidence, of course.

The question I asked was to what extent does the dna show the proportion being Siberian, or Mongol, or Asian. That begs a question: where does the other proportion come from?

My thoughts are that there were several avenues of entry into the Americas over many, many thousands of years,,, not just one. And their impact, if any, make up the dna of indigenous people either all of them or in pockets.
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The whole world was indigenous at some time. Siberian princess that was Found in the ice was Caucasian , there are also Mongols in Siberia.
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The sad part about is if this were true which it is Not and mexicans took north America and the Indians too what would happen to the U. S. ? The Indians would war with the Mexicans and the U.S would turn into a third world country. Sad but true.
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Don't bite the hand that feeds you.
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All you European immigrant cunts living in America should fuck off back your shitty rightful ancestral lands. Fucking wankers. And you have the cheek to call Mexicans "illegal aliens" because one of your immigrant shitty crack leaders decided to put up artificial borders. I hope all the native peoples of the world take back their rightful lands.
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idiot.How did this topic run for eleven pages?
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11/28/2012 03:42 AM
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All you Human gashes living on earth should hump off back to your poopy rightful planets. Humping jerkers. And you have the lips to call snakes "reptiles" becuse some chimpanzee evolved into Australopithecines and created poopy crevis linguistics. I hope all the Dinasours become un-extinct and take back the planet that is rightfully theirs.
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Caucasians are not Mexicans and vice versa.
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I tend to agree. There is an unorthodox theory that appears to be a patch job of conjecture, Over the discovery of so called Kennewick man, a skeleton carbon dated at the University of California at Riverside to be 10,000 years old. It was examined locally in Washington by anthropologist J. Chatters who said it had so called Caucasion skull measurements (what ever that means?). Strangely, after being sent a 1000 miles south for laboratory analyses, a simple dna test was not performed. An article citing a reason blamed it on a jurisdictional dispute with a local Indian band, who wished to bury it. There is indication that they have received the skeleton and presumably it is still in Riverside. Hmmm.... okay..

That's the evidence and context for the claim that Caucasions from the Caucases arrived here 10 thousand years ago. Some are even saying that this solitary skeleton based on the "evidence" proves that "Whites" were here before "indigenous" peoples,,, Of course they would NEVER admit to those same Whites mixing with the natives,,, No, no. Instead they confidently insist that the savages wiped them out. And they go one, to insist that this conjecture is FURTHER proof that the savages were more savage than Europeans treatment Indians in more recent times.

Whew! What a story! But that's what they say.,,,:)
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The whole world was indigenous at some time.
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Well thank you AC477 for that input. For once we agree...

But 'indigenous' in this thread has up till now referred to the Americas--
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All you European immigrant cunts living in America should fuck off back your shitty rightful ancestral lands. Fucking wankers. And you have the cheek to call Mexicans "illegal aliens" because one of your immigrant shitty crack leaders decided to put up artificial borders. I hope all the native peoples of the world take back their rightful lands.
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idiot.How did this topic run for eleven pages?
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there are a lot of stupid people who are not aware that the Spanish are from Europe
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here's a summary of the latest theory of origins, based on inconclusive dna, and spear point technology..


Perhaps this is the birth of an intriguing new theory for the peopling of America: the first Stone Age explorers arrive on this continent more than 20,000 years ago, much earlier than scientists ever imagined. They come from Asia, and maybe even Europe, by land and by sea. Tenuously, at first, these different groups spread across the virgin land, and over thousands of years they develop an intimate knowledge of the New World. Around 13,500 years ago, a stone weapon is invented, so powerful, so crucial to survival that it spreads swiftly across all the people of the Americas. With this new technology they take root, proliferate and prosper. Clovis is the first great invention of the New World and the icon of the peoples who may rightfully be called the first Americans.

[link to www.pbs.org]

results strongly suggest a scenario in which all five
haplogroups were part of a single founding population
that ultimately led to the peopling of the whole American
continent.

[link to www.familytreedna.com]
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All you European immigrant cunts living in America should fuck off back your shitty rightful ancestral lands. Fucking wankers. And you have the cheek to call Mexicans "illegal aliens" because one of your immigrant shitty crack leaders decided to put up artificial borders. I hope all the native peoples of the world take back their rightful lands.
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Thanks man. It's only right aint it.

5 stars

hf
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All you European immigrant cunts living in America should fuck off back your shitty rightful ancestral lands. Fucking wankers. And you have the cheek to call Mexicans "illegal aliens" because one of your immigrant shitty crack leaders decided to put up artificial borders. I hope all the native peoples of the world take back their rightful lands.
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Thanks man. It's only right aint it.

5 stars

hf
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We call all peoples who do not come here legal , illegal. that is the term same as if I went to try to live in Australia, do we need to change the term? People who are born where they are , that is where their from. No one is wanting to back anything , and Mexico never had any land in the U.S, the U.S has what it has and that is the way it is deal with it. What do you mean rightful? You think something is owed to you? There are not that many European immigrants here that was many years ago, now the people who are here are Americans and that all. My immigrant ancestors built this country, the roads, schools, farmed the land, mined the coal, cut the steel, the railroads, made laws, Quakers are the ones who developed the penal codes we all go by, fought wars etc, etc, , so you want to take it back after it has already been set up for you? Get real!
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All you European immigrant cunts living in America should fuck off back your shitty rightful ancestral lands. Fucking wankers. And you have the cheek to call Mexicans "illegal aliens" because one of your immigrant shitty crack leaders decided to put up artificial borders. I hope all the native peoples of the world take back their rightful lands.
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Thanks man. It's only right aint it.

5 stars

hf
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We call all peoples who do not come here legal , illegal. that is the term same as if I went to try to live in Australia, do we need to change the term? People who are born where they are , that is where their from. No one is wanting to back anything , and Mexico never had any land in the U.S, the U.S has what it has and that is the way it is deal with it. What do you mean rightful? You think something is owed to you? There are not that many European immigrants here that was many years ago, now the people who are here are Americans and that all. My immigrant ancestors built this country, the roads, schools, farmed the land, mined the coal, cut the steel, the railroads, made laws, Quakers are the ones who developed the penal codes we all go by, fought wars etc, etc, , so you want to take it back after it has already been set up for you? Get real!
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Those laws are those of the Europeans, and not of the Aboriginals. So which one is morally right? The Aboriginals are the first people of America, Canada, Australia, etc, therefore their culture SHOULD be the one to follow when on their land. There is no other way around it, buddie.
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Ahhhhhhhhhhhh I don't want to AGREE...but OP is fucking right =/
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All you European immigrant cunts living in America should fuck off back your shitty rightful ancestral lands. Fucking wankers. And you have the cheek to call Mexicans "illegal aliens" because one of your immigrant shitty crack leaders decided to put up artificial borders. I hope all the native peoples of the world take back their rightful lands.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28502673


Thanks man. It's only right aint it.

5 stars

hf
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28681556


We call all peoples who do not come here legal , illegal. that is the term same as if I went to try to live in Australia, do we need to change the term? People who are born where they are , that is where their from. No one is wanting to back anything , and Mexico never had any land in the U.S, the U.S has what it has and that is the way it is deal with it. What do you mean rightful? You think something is owed to you? There are not that many European immigrants here that was many years ago, now the people who are here are Americans and that all. My immigrant ancestors built this country, the roads, schools, farmed the land, mined the coal, cut the steel, the railroads, made laws, Quakers are the ones who developed the penal codes we all go by, fought wars etc, etc, , so you want to take it back after it has already been set up for you? Get real!
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Those laws are those of the Europeans, and not of the Aboriginals. So which one is morally right? The Aboriginals are the first people of America, Canada, Australia, etc, therefore their culture SHOULD be the one to follow when on their land. There is no other way around it, buddie.
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How long do a specific racial group of people, have to be living in a specific place, in order to be considered indiginous or aboriginal? Serious question..
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Ahhhhhhhhhhhh I don't want to AGREE...but OP is fucking right =/
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Well your way failed! We are here to stay we are the U SA. Nothing you can do about it and thats the bottom line.
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How long do a specific racial group of people, have to be living in a specific place, in order to be considered indiginous or aboriginal? Serious question..
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That is a good good question it's like a stalemate.

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