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I hope the Mexicans and other indigenous people of the American continent take back their land.

 
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How long do a specific racial group of people, have to be living in a specific place, in order to be considered indiginous or aboriginal? Serious question..
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That is a good good question it's like a stalemate.
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I can't see how that's a really "good good question"...pretty retarded in my opinion.


The fact is that indigenous people where there and here first and their land WAS forcefully taken from them (stolen). Which is wrong, obviously.


I'm a non indigenous Aussie, and as much as I want to call Australia my "homeland" (it kind of is...) it just really ISN'T. A homeland is where your bloodline originated and Australia DEFINITELY wasn't where mine originated. There is THEORIES created my archaeologists that Austalian Aboriginals came from Africa (as apparently we all did), but it's only a theory. Sure they may have found DNA that matches ones found in Africa to suggest whatever, but that really isn't enough evidence to conclude that all humans originated in Africa.
Australian Aboriginals say that they were created by a God, here is Australia. That isn't their theory, but an actual historical fact that all traditional Aboriginals all over Australia believe in.
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11/29/2012 06:06 AM
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Maori bloodline originated in Taiwan... not that long ago either, dimwit.
So tell me, Hitler. How long is long enough?
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11/29/2012 06:16 AM
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Re: I hope the Mexicans and other indigenous people of the American continent take back their land.
How long do a specific racial group of people, have to be living in a specific place, in order to be considered indiginous or aboriginal? Serious question..
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That is a good good question it's like a stalemate.
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I can't see how that's a really "good good question"...pretty retarded in my opinion.


The fact is that indigenous people where there and here first and their land WAS forcefully taken from them (stolen). Which is wrong, obviously.


I'm a non indigenous Aussie, and as much as I want to call Australia my "homeland" (it kind of is...) it just really ISN'T. A homeland is where your bloodline originated and Australia DEFINITELY wasn't where mine originated. There is THEORIES created my archaeologists that Austalian Aboriginals came from Africa (as apparently we all did), but it's only a theory. Sure they may have found DNA that matches ones found in Africa to suggest whatever, but that really isn't enough evidence to conclude that all humans originated in Africa.
Australian Aboriginals say that they were created by a God, here is Australia. That isn't their theory, but an actual historical fact that all traditional Aboriginals all over Australia believe in.
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Nice. Made me think about things in a new light coffee4

Like there really is no hard fact proof that we was all made in Africa if there was it wouldn't be called the Out of Africa Theory.

Evolutionary thinking, why couldn't indigenous people have evolved from micro-organisms in Australia and other places into humans?? Why is Africa so special??
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11/29/2012 06:17 AM
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Maori bloodline originated in Taiwan... not that long ago either, dimwit.
So tell me, Hitler. How long is long enough?
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But how do you know that?
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11/29/2012 06:21 AM
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How long is a piece of string?
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11/29/2012 06:28 AM
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My Nga Puhi best mate informs me that Nga Puhi was the first "Maori" tribe to arrive here, decendents of Maui no less... yet when they got here they WERE NOT the first ones here and they genocided and conquered the locals/aboriginals... hense now they are the "originals" as far as "maori" are concerned.
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How long do a specific racial group of people, have to be living in a specific place, in order to be considered indiginous or aboriginal? Serious question..
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That is a good good question it's like a stalemate.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25788477


I can't see how that's a really "good good question"...pretty retarded in my opinion.


The fact is that indigenous people where there and here first and their land WAS forcefully taken from them (stolen). Which is wrong, obviously.


I'm a non indigenous Aussie, and as much as I want to call Australia my "homeland" (it kind of is...) it just really ISN'T. A homeland is where your bloodline originated and Australia DEFINITELY wasn't where mine originated. There is THEORIES created my archaeologists that Austalian Aboriginals came from Africa (as apparently we all did), but it's only a theory. Sure they may have found DNA that matches ones found in Africa to suggest whatever, but that really isn't enough evidence to conclude that all humans originated in Africa.
Australian Aboriginals say that they were created by a God, here is Australia. That isn't their theory, but an actual historical fact that all traditional Aboriginals all over Australia believe in.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26063078


Nice. Made me think about things in a new light coffee4

Like there really is no hard fact proof that we was all made in Africa if there was it wouldn't be called the Out of Africa Theory.

Evolutionary thinking, why couldn't indigenous people have evolved from micro-organisms in Australia and other places into humans?? Why is Africa so special??
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Science doesn't really have any conclusions does it? I guess why they think humans evolved in Africa is based on the bones of Home Erectus etc, etc. It will only ever be called a theory because of the simple fact that not everything on Earth has been discovered. LOL what would happen if they found the same evidence they use to suggest we evolved in Africa, in Australia or the USA or wherever else? Would the theory then be that humans evolved from that country? More than likly yes. So what to do in the mean time? Don't confuse theories with facts. I would rather work from the history of creation that the indigenous people all over the world teach, rather than never conclusive scientific evaluations. Seems like the sanest thing to do rofl
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11/29/2012 06:42 AM
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Re: I hope the Mexicans and other indigenous people of the American continent take back their land.
All you European immigrant cunts living in America should fuck off back your shitty rightful ancestral lands. Fucking wankers. And you have the cheek to call Mexicans "illegal aliens" because one of your immigrant shitty crack leaders decided to put up artificial borders. I hope all the native peoples of the world take back their rightful lands.
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Extreme and possibly unnecessary use of language, but overall an accurate statement. I'm sure you was expected this backlash, but I'm proud you aren't a selfish lying bigot and spoke the universal truth anyway. Wish I could buy you a beer dasbier
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11/29/2012 06:43 AM
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let's make all land common land
we don't need countries/states/governments
everyone selfsufficient,each community decide its own fate
work with others not for them that's slavery
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11/29/2012 07:17 AM
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Re: I hope the Mexicans and other indigenous people of the American continent take back their land.
the fate of the yid hun was sealed when David dIcke opened
his mouth in the second centenary of the yid french
revolution,what's the difference between god and yid,god
wants us to be free,creates the habitat to be so,yid doesn't
,the wrathschild yids have created a world where everyone's
dependent on money created by them,to get it we have to work
for them,we're supposed to work for god not yid parasite
middlemen,see abundanthope.net/nov7 PJ228 ch3/4,the curse of
the world is people who set theirself up in authority over
others,hierarchy of fear,13 million yids control/destroy the
world to the detriment of the rest,time we marginalised them
,they have power over us because we give them our power by
working for them,hatonn says he'll work with us not for us,
he won't be our slave,we need to do the same,must be good
fun arresting folk,handcuffing them,making their wrist hurt,
locking them up,humiliating them in a cell,raiding their
premises,confiscating their property,charging them etc,
interesting our yid government is the biggest perpetrator of
crime: killing people/animals,flooding the country with
drugs,producing toxic food/water/air/pharmaceuticals,
indoctrinating the populace with propaganda instead of truth
etc,god determines the law not yids,see phoenix journal 27,
the nile valley is a fertile plain because it floods once a
year,you don't mess with nature,it's god at work,thanks to
the yid antichrist the planet's irreparable,interesting the
queen is a double,the british empire is the yid empire,they
control banking/the media/governments etc,start all the wars
,pollute/destroy the planet/us,see protocols of the learned
elders of zion,we work for yids for yid money/vouchers to
buy yid goods,all we've got to do is WITHDRAW our manpower,
their corporations including government will collapse,then
we can get on with living instead of slaving,see
ringingcedars.com,everyone selfsufficient,each community
decide its own fate,in accord with the laws of balance,see
phoenix journal 27,we don't need money/sell something to
survive,look at other species,once there was a firmament/
belt of vapour round the earth,like venus now,protecting it
from harsh radiation and maintaining a constant temperature,
resulting in lush vegetation/food everywhere,however it was
ruptured causing the deluge/oceans,fortunately it's being
restored,see abundanthope.net,then we'll have perpetual
spring,the garden of eden/aden,help yourself,everyone self
sufficient,we don't need landownership/deforestation,
permaculture not agriculture,we don't need concrete jungle,
all construction can be underground or tree houses,eight
billion annunaki have been removed from inside the earth
which is hollow, 1k miles thick,the poles are holes, 1k
miles wide,entrances to the inner earth,see erks.org, we
don't need fossil fuel,oil is the lifeblood of the earth,the
continents float on it,electricity meters are C19th tesla
free energy generators,using magnets/dipoles to transform
high frequency energy of the aether into low frequency
energy,see cheniere.org, people get ready for the cataclysm
say your catechism,expect TV announcements about the three
days of darkness,maybe feb19,see abundanthope.net/nov27
important decisions will begin to affect life on earth
seriously
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11/29/2012 08:20 AM
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Re: I hope the Mexicans and other indigenous people of the American continent take back their land.
the fate of the yid hun was sealed when David dIcke opened
his mouth in the second centenary of the yid french
revolution,what's the difference between god and yid,god
wants us to be free,creates the habitat to be so,yid doesn't
,the wrathschild yids have created a world where everyone's
dependent on money created by them,to get it we have to work
for them,we're supposed to work for god not yid parasite
middlemen,see abundanthope.net/nov7 PJ228 ch3/4,the curse of
the world is people who set theirself up in authority over
others,hierarchy of fear,13 million yids control/destroy the
world to the detriment of the rest,time we marginalised them
,they have power over us because we give them our power by
working for them,hatonn says he'll work with us not for us,
he won't be our slave,we need to do the same,must be good
fun arresting folk,handcuffing them,making their wrist hurt,
locking them up,humiliating them in a cell,raiding their
premises,confiscating their property,charging them etc,
interesting our yid government is the biggest perpetrator of
crime: killing people/animals,flooding the country with
drugs,producing toxic food/water/air/pharmaceuticals,
indoctrinating the populace with propaganda instead of truth
etc,god determines the law not yids,see phoenix journal 27,
the nile valley is a fertile plain because it floods once a
year,you don't mess with nature,it's god at work,thanks to
the yid antichrist the planet's irreparable,interesting the
queen is a double,the british empire is the yid empire,they
control banking/the media/governments etc,start all the wars
,pollute/destroy the planet/us,see protocols of the learned
elders of zion,we work for yids for yid money/vouchers to
buy yid goods,all we've got to do is WITHDRAW our manpower,
their corporations including government will collapse,then
we can get on with living instead of slaving,see
ringingcedars.com,everyone selfsufficient,each community
decide its own fate,in accord with the laws of balance,see
phoenix journal 27,we don't need money/sell something to
survive,look at other species,once there was a firmament/
belt of vapour round the earth,like venus now,protecting it
from harsh radiation and maintaining a constant temperature,
resulting in lush vegetation/food everywhere,however it was
ruptured causing the deluge/oceans,fortunately it's being
restored,see abundanthope.net,then we'll have perpetual
spring,the garden of eden/aden,help yourself,everyone self
sufficient,we don't need landownership/deforestation,
permaculture not agriculture,we don't need concrete jungle,
all construction can be underground or tree houses,eight
billion annunaki have been removed from inside the earth
which is hollow, 1k miles thick,the poles are holes, 1k
miles wide,entrances to the inner earth,see erks.org, we
don't need fossil fuel,oil is the lifeblood of the earth,the
continents float on it,electricity meters are C19th tesla
free energy generators,using magnets/dipoles to transform
high frequency energy of the aether into low frequency
energy,see cheniere.org, people get ready for the cataclysm
say your catechism,expect TV announcements about the three
days of darkness,maybe feb19,see abundanthope.net/nov27
important decisions will begin to affect life on earth
seriously
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Interesting stuff, Jingo...
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11/29/2012 09:47 AM
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Re: I hope the Mexicans and other indigenous people of the American continent take back their land.
How long do a specific racial group of people, have to be living in a specific place, in order to be considered indiginous or aboriginal? Serious question..
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It's what your identity is.

If you think/feel like a foreign entity, than you arent indigenous...

The SECOND you discard the foreign entity, is the second you are indigenous...
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Re: I hope the Mexicans and other indigenous people of the American continent take back their land.
let's make all land common land
we don't need countries/states/governments
everyone selfsufficient,each community decide its own fate
work with others not for them that's slavery
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The first step is to reject the idea "I bought it, therefore it's mine".

The second step is to find your tribe and be accepted by them.

Then you are indigenous...
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11/29/2012 03:25 PM
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What if you found out that earth is not your place of origin? Should we all be sent back to our home planets?
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11/29/2012 03:38 PM
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Re: I hope the Mexicans and other indigenous people of the American continent take back their land.
Neither Mexicans nor "native" Americans are indigenous to the Americas. They originated from the Mongoloids who came across the Bering straight from Asia.
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11/29/2012 03:43 PM
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Re: I hope the Mexicans and other indigenous people of the American continent take back their land.
All you European immigrant cunts living in America should fuck off back your shitty rightful ancestral lands. Fucking wankers. And you have the cheek to call Mexicans "illegal aliens" because one of your immigrant shitty crack leaders decided to put up artificial borders. I hope all the native peoples of the world take back their rightful lands.
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Well then you better leave Australia to the Abo's.
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All you European immigrant cunts living in America should fuck off back your shitty rightful ancestral lands. Fucking wankers. And you have the cheek to call Mexicans "illegal aliens" because one of your immigrant shitty crack leaders decided to put up artificial borders. I hope all the native peoples of the world take back their rightful lands.
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Re: I hope the Mexicans and other indigenous people of the American continent take back their land.
Neither Mexicans nor "native" Americans are indigenous to the Americas. They originated from the Mongoloids who came across the Bering straight from Asia.
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That is true.
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Re: I hope the Mexicans and other indigenous people of the American continent take back their land.
All you European immigrant cunts living in America should fuck off back your shitty rightful ancestral lands. Fucking wankers. And you have the cheek to call Mexicans "illegal aliens" because one of your immigrant shitty crack leaders decided to put up artificial borders. I hope all the native peoples of the world take back their rightful lands.
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Wanker wants to know what native lands that would be? Could you point me to the right direction?
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Neither Mexicans nor "native" Americans are indigenous to the Americas. They originated from the Mongoloids who came across the Bering straight from Asia.
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How do you know that? Is that the history of creation that they speak of? Or are you basing that on what Archaeologists tell you?
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Only the Native Americans, not the Mexicans.
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Re: I hope the Mexicans and other indigenous people of the American continent take back their land.
All you European immigrant cunts living in America should fuck off back your shitty rightful ancestral lands. Fucking wankers. And you have the cheek to call Mexicans "illegal aliens" because one of your immigrant shitty crack leaders decided to put up artificial borders. I hope all the native peoples of the world take back their rightful lands.
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Thanks man. It's only right aint it.

5 stars

hf
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We call all peoples who do not come here legal , illegal. that is the term same as if I went to try to live in Australia, do we need to change the term? People who are born where they are , that is where their from. No one is wanting to back anything , and Mexico never had any land in the U.S, the U.S has what it has and that is the way it is deal with it. What do you mean rightful? You think something is owed to you? There are not that many European immigrants here that was many years ago, now the people who are here are Americans and that all. My immigrant ancestors built this country, the roads, schools, farmed the land, mined the coal, cut the steel, the railroads, made laws, Quakers are the ones who developed the penal codes we all go by, fought wars etc, etc, , so you want to take it back after it has already been set up for you? Get real!
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Those laws are those of the Europeans, and not of the Aboriginals. So which one is morally right? The Aboriginals are the first people of America, Canada, Australia, etc, therefore their culture SHOULD be the one to follow when on their land. There is no other way around it, buddie.
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^ This was an excellent post. Completely valid and conclusive.
clappa
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Hey stupid, Mexicans aren't indiginous. Spain came and then ceded it to Mexico but it only lasted a very short time. Mexico gave out all these huge land grants (on native lands btw). However, it came and went pretty quick.
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All you European immigrant cunts living in America should fuck off back your shitty rightful ancestral lands. Fucking wankers. And you have the cheek to call Mexicans "illegal aliens" because one of your immigrant shitty crack leaders decided to put up artificial borders. I hope all the native peoples of the world take back their rightful lands.
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They don't want the 'land' they want what has been built upon it. Do you actually in your wildest dreams imagine that the grasers would come her if it were not for schools someone else pays for (Thet thir bastard children can' eve strain themselves to gradtuate the boys drop out to join gangs and the slut females start crapping out bastards before they are old enough to drive short fat brown and fertile is the best you can say about them) from the without schools roads houses, food stamps running water toilets that flush welfare.

They don't want the 'land' what they covet is what whitey built on the land that the californian mexican expays sold their adobe houses on unimproved tumbleweeds and desert scrub.

If the land was what they want why did they leave their own? If they are so SUPERIOR why is the place the lived in hellhole? Becuse they are the type of people that no country wants to claim. They are worthless drains on society. Castro emptied his prisons and sent them to the US and mexico sends their criminals to the US.

When

Because they want to use lies to gain what someone else has built upon it.


Tell an illegal alien to show proof that their ancestors actually owned land in what is now the 'american' south west. There were censuses back then too. records from churches, proof can be found unless they illegal aliens are lyeing.

(The US bought the southwest 'twice' Once from Spain and once from Mexico- and now they are emptying their prisons and sending their least s=desireable to the north for someone else to deal with)

The illegal aliens can't account for their ancestors EVER being here you know why? Because they never were. The californios hated the mexican government and corruption so much they stayed here and when the land prices went up they sold their inimproved ranches to whitey, moved to the cities and lived the high life as long as the funds were there. Once they were spent they faded into oblivion.


When I think of math, science, great works of literature, quality products, skills. Surprisingly enough MEXICO is not the first country to come to mind.

So slide back across the boarder where yoiu belong you greasy piece of shit.
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I hope not, where the hell am I supposed to go?
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Yay threads like this are AWESOME!!!!!
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All you European immigrant cunts living in America should fuck off back your shitty rightful ancestral lands. Fucking wankers. And you have the cheek to call Mexicans "illegal aliens" because one of your immigrant shitty crack leaders decided to put up artificial borders. I hope all the native peoples of the world take back their rightful lands.
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Rofl.

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