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Oxford uni Decoded Sumerian Tablets, the REAL DEAL

 
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Take a look, this is the real and look hard enough and you will find the answer you seek dead
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what does it say?!
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from Proverbs 2nd translation...



2.15
30. The poor man must always look to his next meal.

2.16
31. The belching poor man should not look scornfully at the rich man.

2.17
32. How can a poor man who doesn't know how to cultivate barley manage to cultivate wheat?

2.18
33. The poor man is not appreciated.

2.19
34. The poor man chews whatever he is given.

2.20
35-36. (cf. 6.1.26.d4) He didn't plough the field during winter. And at harvest time he turned his hand to carding.

2.21
37. ...... incense burners ...... a multitude of houses .......

2.22
38-39. (cf. 6.1.17.b5) When someone is poor ......, they dine on the broth of the human breast.

2.23
40-41. (cf. 6.1.17.b4) The poor man does not strike his son a single blow; he does not ...... highly forever.

2.24
42-43. The poor man ...... arrogance toward his patron.

2.26
44. Not all the households of the poor will bow down together.

2.27
45. The word of a poor man is not accepted.

2.28
46-47. (cf. 2.34A, 6.1.22: l. 236, 6.2.3: UET 6/2 260 l. 1) Moving about defeats poverty. He who knows how to move around becomes strong. He will live longer than the sedentary man.

2.29
48-51. How lowly is the poor man! The area around the oven is a mill-house to him. His torn clothes will not be repaired. That which he has lost will not be searched for.

2.30
52-53. The poor man is this lowly: his debts are paid off with what is taken from his mouth.

2.31
54. A poor man chewing at silver.

2.32
55. The poor are the weak in the Land.

2.33
56-57. It is the companion of the poor. It is the weakness of the widows.

2.34
58-59. The face of the poor man is set as though he were having to sit in the face of the storm.
60. (cf. 2.28, 6.1.22: l. 236, 6.2.3: UET 6/2 260 l. 1) Moving about defeats poverty.

2.35
61-64. (A man speaks:) Were I to give food to the man who roves about, how could I bring it to him who does not rove about? (A woman speaks:) Were I to give food to the man who roves about, how could I bring it to him who does not rove about?
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1.55
71-73. Let the poor man die, let him not live. When he finds bread, he finds no salt. When he finds salt, he finds no bread. When he finds meat, he finds no condiments. When he finds condiments, he finds no meat. {(2 mss. add:) When he finds oil, he finds no jar. When he finds a jar, he finds no oil.}

1.56
74-75. When he walks on the streets no one greets him. And when he comes home to his wife, "Bad Name" is what he is called.

1.57
76. (cf. 6.1.25.5) The lives of the poor do not survive their deaths.
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1.189
98. Food is the matter, water is the matter.

1.190
99-100. (cf. 6.1.19.c9) Fatty meat is good. Fatty mutton is good. -- What shall {I} {(1 ms. has instead:) we} give the slave girl?

1.191
102. (cf. 6.1.21.c3) Let her eat the ham of a pig!



this one was odd.. so before the hebrew bible there was also something about not eating ham.... hmmmm
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1.157
38-39. A disorderly son -- his mother should not have given birth to him. His god should not have created him.







SOoooo....

We know they didn't hold up the poor, they had slaves, and their were/are multi-gods.....


.....



If you haven't checked out the link above, I would do so.... very interesting....


BUT WHERE IS THE DOOM???

hmmmmmm
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if having issues navigating their site....

once there, click on (Corpus content by category)

you will find what they have...

beside each you will find the transliteration and the translation. One is the formula, one is the text, click on any (ASCII). Then sometimes click on a line number, (say #1) and it will take you to that translation.

NOTE!

They DO NOT BULLSHIT, if there are missing parts they show you, if there are 2 meanings to the translation, they tell you.

NO WHERE do they (fill in the gap)


here's a cool old story of (The turtle and the heron) which is not a damn rabbit and it's not about a damn race....

[link to etcsl.orinst.ox.ac.uk]
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not very optimistic were they back then?
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not very optimistic were they back then?
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It is nice to know, that even though it was an (all together) commun type, they rid themselves of the leaches.

My father always said "you work, you eat, dont work, dont eat."

I found a verse that was almost word for word and now I have to find it again....


for all the books out there, and websites all saying different shit, it's cool to have access to the actual tablet translations w/out someone's agenda mixed in...
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still trying to find some 2012 doom day 3 of surfing these tablets... none yet.....

let me know if ANYONE finds any doom...
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Hmm seems they were a randy bunch back then from reading a bit of that.
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1.55
71-73. Let the poor man die, let him not live. When he finds bread, he finds no salt. When he finds salt, he finds no bread. When he finds meat, he finds no condiments. When he finds condiments, he finds no meat. {(2 mss. add:) When he finds oil, he finds no jar. When he finds a jar, he finds no oil.}

1.56
74-75. When he walks on the streets no one greets him. And when he comes home to his wife, "Bad Name" is what he is called.

1.57
76. (cf. 6.1.25.5) The lives of the poor do not survive their deaths.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19392583





Hmm seems they were a randy bunch back then from reading a bit of that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1290427





sounds a lot like today doesn't it???

the more things change, the more they stay the same.....
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not very optimistic were they back then?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28392925


It is nice to know, that even though it was an (all together) commun type, they rid themselves of the leaches.

My father always said "you work, you eat, dont work, dont eat."

I found a verse that was almost word for word and now I have to find it again....


for all the books out there, and websites all saying different shit, it's cool to have access to the actual tablet translations w/out someone's agenda mixed in...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19392583


Funny..I know a guy who asked God to give us our daily bread..
Guess he was a lazy leach?
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not very optimistic were they back then?
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It
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19392583


Funny..I know a guy who asked God to give us our daily bread..
Guess he was a lazy leach?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28392925


Now even though they have a high god, the creator, they had many other gods, (or sons of god). These gods aged here, were born here, so somewhere they must have died here.....

if they did, then where is there blood line today? And are they those that are TPTB?

hmmmm.....

^^^^ Just my take, but still damn cool to live in an age where we have such history available to us.... Knowledge = Freedom food stamps and cable tv is not freedom
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Segment D

1-11. All the windstorms and gales arose together, and the flood swept over the ……. After the flood had swept over the land, and waves and windstorms had rocked the huge boat for seven days and seven nights, Utu the sun god came out, illuminating heaven and earth. Zi-ud-sura could drill an opening in the huge boat and the hero Utu entered the huge boat with his rays. Zi-ud-sura the king prostrated himself before Utu. The king sacrificed oxen and offered innumerable sheep.

12-17.
six lines fragmentary
approx. 33 lines missing


Segment E

1-2. "They have made you swear by heaven and earth, ……. An and Enlil have made you swear by heaven and earth, ……."

3-11. More and more animals disembarked onto the earth. Zi-ud-sura the king prostrated himself before An and Enlil. An and Enlil treated Zi-ud-sura kindly ……, they granted him life like a god, they brought down to him eternal life. At that time, because of preserving the animals and the seed of mankind, they settled Zi-ud-sura the king in an overseas country, in the land Dilmun, where the sun rises.


Where did i hear this before... Intresting stuff OP, very intresting
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This is long BUT READ IT!


ETCSLtranslation : t.5.6.1
The instructions of Curuppag
1-13. In those days, in those far remote days, in those nights, in those faraway nights, in those years, in those far remote years, at that time the wise one who knew how to speak in elaborate words lived in the Land; Curuppag, the wise one, who knew how to speak with elaborate words lived in the Land. Curuppag gave instructions to his son; Curuppag, the son of Ubara-Tutu, gave instructions to his son Zi-ud-sura: My son, let me give you instructions: you should pay attention! Zi-ud-sura, let me speak a word to you: you should pay attention! Do not neglect my instructions! Do not transgress the words I speak! The instructions of an old man are precious; you should comply with them!
^^^^ So does this mean there was a more advanced time before the sumerians?^^^^


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14. You should not buy a donkey which brays; it will split (?) your midriff (?).
15-18. You should not locate a field on a road; ....... You should not plough a field at {(1 ms. adds:) a road or} a path; ....... You should not make a well in your field: people will cause damage on it for you. You should not place your house next to a public square: there is always a crowd (?) there.
19-20. You should not vouch for someone: that man will have a hold on you; and you yourself, you should not let somebody vouch for you {(1 ms. adds:) : that man will despise (?) you}.
21. You should not make an inspection (?) on a man: the flood (?) will give it back (?) to you.
22-27. You should not loiter about where there is a quarrel; you should not let the quarrel make you a witness. You should not let (?) yourself ...... in a quarrel. You should not cause a quarrel; ....... ...... the gate of the palace ....... Stand aside from a quarrel, ...... you should not take (?) another road.
28-31. You should not steal anything; you should not ...... yourself. You should not break into a house; you should not wish for the money chest (?). A thief is a lion, but after he has been caught, he will be a slave. My son, you should not commit robbery; you should not cut yourself with an axe.
32-34. You should not make a young man best man. You should not ...... yourself. You should not play around with a married young woman: the slander could be serious. My son, you should not sit alone in a chamber with a married woman.
35-38. You should not pick a quarrel; you should not disgrace yourself. You should not ...... lies; ....... You should not boast; then your words will be trusted. You should not deliberate for too long (?); you cannot bear ...... glances.
39-41. You should not eat stolen food with {anyone} {(1 ms. has instead:) a thief}. You should not sink (?) your hand into blood. After you have apportioned the bones, you will be made to restore the ox, you will be made to restore the sheep.
42-43. You should not speak improperly; later it will lay a trap for you.
44-46. You should not scatter your sheep into unknown pastures. You should not hire someone's ox for an uncertain ....... A safe ...... means a safe journey.
47. You should not travel during the night: it can hide both good and evil.
48. You should not buy an onager: it lasts (?) only until the end of the day.
49. You should not have sex with your slave girl: she will chew you up (?).
50. You should not curse strongly: it rebounds on you.
51-52. You should not draw up water which you cannot {reach} {(1 ms. has instead:) grasp}: it will make you weak.
1 line unclear
53. You should not drive away a debtor: he will be hostile towards you.
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>You should not abduct a wife; you should not make her cry
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nice haha
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175-176. You should not work using only your eyes; you will not multiply your possessions using only your mouth.
177. The negligent one ruins (?) his family.
178-180. The need for food makes some people ascend the mountains; it also brings traitors and foreigners, since the need for food brings down other people from the mountains.
181-182. A small city provides (?) its king with a calf; a huge city digs (?) a house plot (?).
183-188. ...... is well equipped. The poor man inflicts all kinds of illnesses on the rich man. The married man is well equipped; the unmarried makes his bed in a haystack (?). He who wishes to destroy a house will go ahead and destroy the house; he who wishes to raise up will go ahead and raise up.



hmmmm
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Where did i hear this before... Intresting stuff OP, very intresting
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indeed AC, it is erie how this al makes sounds very very familiar.....
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ETCSLtranslation : t.2.2.4
The lament for Nibru
1-11. After the cattle pen had been built for the foremost divine powers -- how did it become a haunted place? When will it be restored? Where once the brick of fate had been laid -- who scattered its divine powers? The lamentation is reprised: how did the storeroom of Nibru, the shrine Dur-an-ki, become a haunted place? When will it be restored? After Ki-ur, the great place, had been built, after the brickwork of E-kur had been built, after Ubcu-unkena had been built, after the shrine Egal-mah had been built -- how did they become haunted? When will they be restored?
12-21. How did the true city become empty? Its precious designs have been defiled! How were the city's festivals neglected? Its magnificent rites have been thrown into disorder! In the heart of Nibru, where the divine powers were allotted and the black-headed people prolificly multiplied, the city's heart no longer revealed any sign of intelligence -- there where the Anuna used to give advice! In Ubcu-unkena, the place for making great judgments, they no longer impart decisions or justice!

SOOOooooooo....

Some relation to the word nibiru???

Black People!!!
SOOOOoooo

there we whites and blacks and they also lived in the same likeness??

but if they were Hybrids, then the gods must have made black hybrids as well....

wonder if I'll come across any writings of discrimination....
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22-31. Where its gods had established their dwellings, where their daily rations were offered, their daises erected, where the sacred royal offering (?) and the evening meal in their great banquet hall were destined for the pouring out of choice beer and syrup -- Nibru, the city where the black-headed people used to cool themselves in its spreading shade -- in their dwellings Enlil fell upon them as if they were criminals. It was he who sent them scattering, like a scattered herd of cattle. How long until its lady, the goddess Ninlil, would ask after the inner city, whose bitter tears were overwhelming?
32-41. As though it were empty wasteland, no one enters that great temple whose bustle of activity was famous. As for all the great rulers who increased the wealth of the city of Nibru -- why did they disappear? For how long would Enlil neglect the Land, where the black-headed {people} {(1 ms. has instead:) Land} {(another ms. has instead:) city} ate rich grass like sheep? Tears, lamentation, depression and despair! How long would his spirit burn and his heart not be placated? Why were those who once played the cem and ala drums spending their time in bitter lamenting? Why were the lamenters sitting in its brick buildings? They were bewailing the hardship which beset them.
42-49. The men whose wives had fallen, whose children had fallen, were singing "Oh our destroyed city!". Their city gone, their homes abandoned -- as those who were singing for the brick buildings of the good city, as the lamenters of wailing, like the foster-children of an ecstatic no longer knowing their own intelligence, the people were smitten, their minds thrown into disorder. The true temple wails bitterly.

[link to etcsl.orinst.ox.ac.uk]

Sooooo

the backs destroyed their own city???

hmmmmm
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alright, i'll stop with the pastings, but interesting shit and hope someone gets something from the link
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Even though we don't comment, most of us are silent readers. Please, if u can, continue...
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Even though we don't comment, most of us are silent readers. Please, if u can, continue...
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I have to get on to trig hmwk, but will gladly read others findings later if they post. ana
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Take a look, this is the real and look hard enough and you will find the answer you seek dead
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HOLY FUCK OP, brilliant catch!!! Sitchin right again!!!!

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