AMAZING REVELATION!!! THE WHOLE BIBLE IS ABOUT JESUS AND THE WHOLE BIBLE IS ABOUT ADAM | |
| waterman (OP) User ID: 26724077 11/26/2012 12:06 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | THE TWO WITNESSES ARE ADAM AND EVE People will say they think the two witnesses are: Enoch and Elijah, others will say Joshua and Zerubabbel or Moses and Elijah, or two men from now with the spirit of old testament prophets. Actually all of these are children of Adam and Eve and were imitating their parents end time mission(bring both houses of Israel together, lead them all to Jesus and be taken alive in front of everyone to heaven, just as their Father Jesus was when he rose from the grave after 3 days. Jesus said this: Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us. Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father? (Jn.14:8-9 HE THAT HAS SEEN ME HAS SEEN THE FATHER Recognize 3 sets here: 1. GOD/JESUS (ALL SUPREME(CREATOR OF EVERYTHING) 2. ADAM/EVE (NEXT LEVEL (POPULATED EARTH) 3. JEW/CHRISTIAN (NEXT LEVEL (CHILDREN OF ADAM AND EVE) So if Jesus can say "He that has seen me has seen the father" Adam should be able to say the same thing about Jesus, as Adam is made in the image of Jesus (Don't get me wrong Adam is not equal to Jesus, the servant is never greater than the Master). if a flashlight was compared to Jesus and was a billion candle watt, Adam would be a million candle watt and the people would be a regular flash light on all 3 classes you can still see the flashlights they are just on different levels So when we read the bible we are reading about the children of Adam and Eve so we can conclude that the children are a reflection of the parents, and the children should be able to say "If you have seen me then you have seen my parents"(Adam and Eve), which are children of Jesus , but the whole world is also children of Adam and Eve. Each story in the bible is the story of Adam and Eve, either in the beginning or in the end. Example: Noah builds boat to rescue people(God gave the plan but used Noah to deliver the warning) Adam will do the same thing in the End(Adam will lead the people to his Father Jesus, that the people will not only be children of Adam but also children of Jesus and will be rescued from eternal judgement) Sampson: Most powerful man on Earth, fell away from God but in the end turned back to God....Adam king of the world fell away from God but in the end will lead the people back to God Enoch and Elijah: Translated to heaven physcially to show when the two witnesses(two men with the spirit of ADAM and EVE) are physically taken to heaven after laying in the street for everyone to see for 3 and a half days Joshua and Zerubabbel build the physical temple of God. When you accept Jesus as savior, repent, and turn from sin you become the spiritual temple of God. Adam and Eve(two witnesses) build the spiritual temple which in result is the spiritual children of God instead of the physical children Adam and Eve made in the beginning. Story after story is showing the children of Adam and Eve copying their parents, so the children will say: "If you have seen me you have seen my parents" Each story is showing a piece of the story of Adam and Eve. Just as Adam is lower than Jesus, so the children are lower than Adam but imitate their father So that is why we are confused on which prophets are the two witnesses because they all imitated pieces of their parents(Adam and Eve) lives. IN THE END Two men will have the spirit of Adam(head of the house) and Eve(helper) and complete all the stories their children had in the bible, and then it will be able to be said "IF YOU HAVE SEEN ME YOU HAVE SEEN MY FATHER" Last Edited by waterman on 11/28/2012 07:29 PM |
| waterman (OP) User ID: 26724077 11/26/2012 01:19 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No one can see this man(ADAM) or those with him until the time it is for him to be revealed. Jesus is speaking when he says no man can see my "Son" with a capital "Son" is because all of Jesus' children are sons and daughters but the firstborn Adam is the firstborn and receives the double portion and is meant to rule over the entire congregation with father to children relationship. 2nd Esdras 13:51-52 apocrpaha: 51 Then said I, O Lord that bearest rule, shew me this: Wherefore have I seen the man coming up from the midst of the sea? 52 And he said unto me, Like as thou canst neither seek out nor know the things that are in the deep of the sea: even so can no man upon earth see my Son(ADAM,FIRSTBORN), or those that be with him, but in the day time verse 51 esdras is speaking to "Lord that bearest rule" which is Jesus because Matthew 28:18 18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. and we know from Hebrews 13:8 8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever. and Jesus is omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent God and his word is from everlasting to everlasting. God's word covers past, present, and future therefore Jesus' position is the same. To further prove that esdras is speaking to Jesus(Lord that bearest rule) Jesus speaks of God the Father as a seperate intity from Himself by stating in 2 Esd. 13:26 The same is he whom God the Highest hath kept a great season, which by his own self shall deliver his(Gods) creature(creation): and he shall order them that are left behind Last Edited by waterman on 11/28/2012 07:30 PM |
| waterman (OP) User ID: 26724077 11/26/2012 01:57 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ADAM is hidden in the shadow of his father Jesus in scripture and will be revealed in the last days. Just as all men fell through the action of Adam, Jesus came and was the atonement for sin, but Adam isn't off the hook he will return and join the two houses of Israel back together as Ezekiel 37 tells the last day servant will do, but Adam will go through the 42 month furnace of affliction(destruction of the united states, slavery,and the curses of Deut 28 but God will raise him(Adam) up after that as Adam is the man-child caught up to the throne in Revelation. so the physical king of kings of revelation prophecy is actually adam, not jesus. Even though jesus is lord of all. am i correct in my reasoning here? i also heard adam was taught alchemy by god himself and that is where it originated...and was used by all the long living bible patriarchs. No Jesus is the King of Kings and Lord of Lords...Adam is just a king to the people and prince of the King of Kings(Jesus)....Adam was born to rule as we see in the beginning of the thread Last Edited by waterman on 11/26/2012 01:58 PM |
| waterman (OP) User ID: 26724077 11/26/2012 02:16 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Rev. 14:14: THE LAST DAY SERVANT(ADAM) 14I looked, and there before me was a white cloud, and seated on the cloud was one “like" a son of man”(ADAM)a with "a" crown of gold on his head and a sharp sickle in his hand. 15Then another angel came out of the temple and called in a loud voice to him who was sitting on the cloud, “Take your sickle and reap, because the time to reap has come, for the harvest of the earth is ripe.” 16So he who was seated on the cloud swung his sickle over the earth, and the earth was harvested. (WOW!!! when did JESUS start taking orders from an angel!?!?)It's not Jesus its ADAM Rev 19:11 JESUS KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS! I sure hope Jesus knows what to do that angel that was in rev. 14 is no where to be found to tell Jesus what to do here in Rev 19. 11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war. 12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself. 13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.(This is clearly Jesus) 14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean. 15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. 16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, King Of Kings, And Lord Of Lords.(why is nobody telling Jesus what to do? Why does Jesus have manY crowns and the guy "like a son of man" only has a single crown ..........because this rev 19 is Jesus and rev. 14 is Adam, Jesus' firstborn! Adam is the the firstborn of JESUS, Adam is the chosen one. He is the greater of the two witnesses and will die and 3 and a half days later be raised by God and will be given everything!: Last Edited by waterman on 11/26/2012 05:14 PM |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 28484309 11/26/2012 03:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | what makes you so sure adam is one of the witnesses? i thought the witnesses were elijah and elisha? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28484309 WHO IS GREATER THE FATHER OR THE CHILDREN? Adam is the father of all just as JESUS is the Father of Adam Those people are shadows of the last servant. Whenever you see 2 servants of God together one is always greater than the other... Adam and Eve, Moses and Aaron, Joshua and Zerubabbel, Elijah and Elisha, Jeremiah and Burach, John and Jesus. The reason we know Elijah is one is because malachi 4:5-6:5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord(destruction of the united states): 6 And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse. Jesus had John the baptist(spirit of Elijah) and Adam will have an Elijah. Adam is a copy of his father Jesus it doesn't make sense to me that adam would prophesy in sackcloth in jerusalem and gets killed and resurrected. I respectfully disagree with you on that point. but great topic anyways! |
| waterman (OP) User ID: 26724077 11/26/2012 03:22 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The purpose of Eve being female in the beginning of the Bible was to populate the earth, to bring forth physical children to populate the Earth, and also to be a help meet(one who helps) for Adam. We know from galatians all are one in christ: Sons of God 26You are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus, 27for all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. 28There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. 29If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise. If you can see the pattern in the bible it is this: The bible shows the physical first and the spiritual 2nd. Adam and his (helper) Eve brought forth physical children Adam and his (helper) Elijah bring forth spiritual children in the end. How do they bring forth spiritual children? To be a child of God you accept Jesus as Savior and believe he is the Son of God and died on the cross for the forgiveness of all sin, then rose from the grave 3 days later and sits at the right hand of the Father. Now if you believe this repent of your sins and turn from sin you become a temple of God and God dwells in you, according to 2nd corinthians 6:16: 6:16 What agreement has a temple of God with idols? For you are a temple of the living God. Even as God said, "I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they will be my people." God had 2 physical temples and both were destroyed. This final temple cannot be destroyed for it is within you(the temple of God is within you) In the book of Hagaii and zechariah Joshua and Zerubabbel are building the physical temple with the people. This is symbolic of the two witnesses building the spiritual temple(children of God are the spiritual temple) in the end(telling people about the salvation that Jesus offers builds the temple, by more and more accepting the free gift of salvation and becoming (spiritual children) of God. All the stories in the bible are pointing toward the end, but the end is spiritual instead of physcial. Adam and Eve(help meet) in the beginning of the book to bring forth physical children Adam and Elijah(help meet) in the end to bring forth spiritual children. And again the one witness will have the spirit of Adam the other witness may have the spirit of Eve because in the spirit there are no male or female, no bond or free, for all are one in Christ Jesus if you belong to Jesus Last Edited by waterman on 11/26/2012 03:25 PM |
| waterman (OP) User ID: 26724077 11/26/2012 03:30 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | what makes you so sure adam is one of the witnesses? i thought the witnesses were elijah and elisha? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28484309 WHO IS GREATER THE FATHER OR THE CHILDREN? Adam is the father of all just as JESUS is the Father of Adam Those people are shadows of the last servant. Whenever you see 2 servants of God together one is always greater than the other... Adam and Eve, Moses and Aaron, Joshua and Zerubabbel, Elijah and Elisha, Jeremiah and Burach, John and Jesus. The reason we know Elijah is one is because malachi 4:5-6:5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord(destruction of the united states): 6 And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse. Jesus had John the baptist(spirit of Elijah) and Adam will have an Elijah. Adam is a copy of his father Jesus it doesn't make sense to me that adam would prophesy in sackcloth in jerusalem and gets killed and resurrected. I respectfully disagree with you on that point. but great topic anyways! Thanks for posting a reply: When there was only the old testament and there was just the law and no "grace", would it make sense that God would send his Son to the world and be crucified for the people. No that wouldn't make sense at the time, but after you see the whole picture then it makes sense. |
| waterman (OP) User ID: 26724077 11/26/2012 03:45 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jesus sits at the right hand of the Father. When Jesus came to the earth He glorified his Father. When Adam(Jesus' firstborn) comes to earth, not to save anybody but to unite the two houses of Israel and to turn their hearts back to Jesus, then Adam will glorify Jesus' and when he is done he(Adam) will sit down at the right hand of Jesus. As the two witnesses sit on the left and right of Jesus in the kingdom. The disciples themselves fought over this position in the kingdom: Mark 10: 35And James and John, the sons of Zebedee, come unto him, saying, Master, we would that thou shouldest do for us whatsoever we shall desire. 36And he said unto them, What would ye that I should do for you? 37They said unto him, Grant unto us that we may sit, one on thy right hand, and the other on thy left hand, in thy glory. 38But Jesus said unto them, Ye know not what ye ask: can ye drink of the cup that I drink of? and be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with? 39And they said unto him, We can. And Jesus said unto them, Ye shall indeed drink of the cup that I drink of; and with the baptism that I am baptized withal shall ye be baptized: 40But to sit on my right hand and on my left hand is not mine to give; but "it shall" be given to them for whom it is prepared. Last Edited by waterman on 11/28/2012 07:33 PM |
| waterman (OP) User ID: 26724077 11/26/2012 04:00 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jesus sits at the right hand of the Father. When Jesus came to the earth He glorified his Father. When Adam(Jesus' firstborn) comes to earth, not to save anybody but to unite the two houses of Israel and to turn their hearts back to Jesus, then Adam will glorify Jesus' and when he is done he(Adam) will sit down at the right hand of Jesus. As the two witnesses sit on the left and right of Jesus in the kingdom. The disciples themselves fought over this position in the kingdom: Quoting: waterman Mark 10: 35And James and John, the sons of Zebedee, come unto him, saying, Master, we would that thou shouldest do for us whatsoever we shall desire. 36And he said unto them, What would ye that I should do for you? 37They said unto him, Grant unto us that we may sit, one on thy right hand, and the other on thy left hand, in thy glory. 38But Jesus said unto them, Ye know not what ye ask: can ye drink of the cup that I drink of? and be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with? 39And they said unto him, We can. And Jesus said unto them, Ye shall indeed drink of the cup that I drink of; and with the baptism that I am baptized withal shall ye be baptized: 40But to sit on my right hand and on my left hand is not mine to give; but "it shall" be given to them for whom it is prepared. Adam and Elijah(Eve) will be tried in the furnace of affliction and drink from the cup Jesus drank and be baptised with the baptism Jesus was baptised"fire". Isaiah 48:10 Behold, I have refined thee, but not with silver; I have chosen thee in the furnace of affliction. That affliction will be after the united states is destroyed and people are carried off into slavery. God always raises up the deliverer(not savior, this Adam is one who unites and turns the hearts of the people back to Jesus) from among the people that are being dealt with. Last Edited by waterman on 11/27/2012 02:50 PM |
| waterman (OP) User ID: 26724077 11/26/2012 04:49 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jesus sits at the right hand of the Father. When Jesus came to the earth He glorified his Father. When Adam(Jesus' firstborn) comes to earth, not to save anybody but to unite the two houses of Israel and to turn their hearts back to Jesus, then Adam will glorify Jesus' and when he is done he(Adam) will sit down at the right hand of Jesus. As the two witnesses sit on the left and right of Jesus in the kingdom. The disciples themselves fought over this position in the kingdom: Quoting: waterman Mark 10: 35And James and John, the sons of Zebedee, come unto him, saying, Master, we would that thou shouldest do for us whatsoever we shall desire. 36And he said unto them, What would ye that I should do for you? 37They said unto him, Grant unto us that we may sit, one on thy right hand, and the other on thy left hand, in thy glory. 38But Jesus said unto them, Ye know not what ye ask: can ye drink of the cup that I drink of? and be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with? 39And they said unto him, We can. And Jesus said unto them, Ye shall indeed drink of the cup that I drink of; and with the baptism that I am baptized withal shall ye be baptized: 40But to sit on my right hand and on my left hand is not mine to give; but "it shall" be given to them for whom it is prepared. Who's the mother of Jesus? Who is the mother of Adam.....he didn't have one Jesus brought him forth I read that it is said: Adam came into being from two virgins, from the Spirit and from the virgin earth. Just as Jesus came forth from a virgin birth, as Jesus is the root and off spring of David(Jesus was from the beginning and was after David from the virgin birth. Last Edited by waterman on 11/26/2012 05:18 PM |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 22728347 11/26/2012 08:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | what makes you so sure adam is one of the witnesses? i thought the witnesses were elijah and elisha? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28484309 WHO IS GREATER THE FATHER OR THE CHILDREN? Adam is the father of all just as JESUS is the Father of Adam Those people are shadows of the last servant. Whenever you see 2 servants of God together one is always greater than the other... Adam and Eve, Moses and Aaron, Joshua and Zerubabbel, Elijah and Elisha, Jeremiah and Burach, John and Jesus. The reason we know Elijah is one is because malachi 4:5-6:5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord(destruction of the united states): 6 And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse. Jesus had John the baptist(spirit of Elijah) and Adam will have an Elijah. Adam is a copy of his father Jesus it doesn't make sense to me that adam would prophesy in sackcloth in jerusalem and gets killed and resurrected. I respectfully disagree with you on that point. but great topic anyways! |
| waterman (OP) User ID: 26724077 11/26/2012 09:31 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | so does revelation foretell the second coming of christ, or the coming of adam to be king of the earth? or both? is adam considered the christ as well or is that reserved for jesus only? perhaps adam is the christ as in anointed one, as in he will be anointed to be king of the earth as given to him by jesus? still trying to wrap my mind around your material. 5 stars op. This is about the kingdoms of this world, and a father, son relationship. Now, another Father Son relationship applied again. This time it is about the whole kingdom of God, not just the kingdom of one little planet, but all created things ,powers, kingdoms, strengths,salvation! (Rev.12:10) The kingdom of our God(God The Father)and the power of his Christ[/his Son, Jesus. The Father gives all kingdoms to his Son. The Son who is the example of the Father, gives a kingdom to His son Adam. Therefore, this is the meaning of God's Word concerning these matters, just revealed. (Rev.2:26) And he(singular) that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end (end times), to himthat last Adam. Who is not the second man, but the first Adam will I give power over the nations: (Rev.2:27) And he (that Adam) shall rule them with a rod of iron; as of a potter shall they be broken to shivers; even as I JESUS received of my Father. So again son Father relationship example! There are many more exam plies, but they are hidden from eyes that see not yet, or ears that strain for a whisper. Wow very good Last Edited by waterman on 12/06/2012 10:55 PM |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 22728347 11/26/2012 09:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Correct, and in that second man (the Lord from heaven, Jesus),He stood before the two Adams (chronologically)(1cor.15:45-47). First Adam was made a living soul, last Adam was made a quickening (reviving)spirit.1st Adam, 2nd man(Jesus),last Adam. Jesus' final act to bringing Adam's spirit, soul, and flesh alive. This is the description of a whole man, in God's final plan. |
| waterman (OP) User ID: 26724077 11/27/2012 10:01 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | THE TWO WITNESSES ARE ADAM AND EVE People will say they think the two witnesses are: Enoch and Elijah, others will say Joshua and Zerubabbel or Moses and Elijah, or two men from now with the spirit of old testament prophets. Actually all of these are children of Adam and Eve and were imitating their parents end time mission(bring both houses of Israel together, lead them all to Jesus and be taken alive in front of everyone to heaven, just as their Father Jesus was when he rose from the grave after 3 days. Jesus said this: Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us. Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father? (Jn.14:8-9 HE THAT HAS SEEN ME HAS SEEN THE FATHER Recognize 3 sets here: 1. GOD/JESUS (ALL SUPREME(CREATOR OF EVERYTHING) 2. ADAM/EVE (NEXT LEVEL (POPULATED EARTH) 3. JEW/CHRISTIAN (NEXT LEVEL (CHILDREN OF ADAM AND EVE) So if Jesus can say "He that has seen me has seen the father" Adam should be able to say the same thing about Jesus, as Adam is made in the image of Jesus (Don't get me wrong Adam is not equal to Jesus, the servant is never greater than the Master). if a flashlight was compared to Jesus and was a billion candle watt, Adam would be a million candle watt and the people would be a regular flash light on all 3 classes you can still see the flashlights they are just on different levels So when we read the bible we are reading about the children of Adam and Eve so we can conclude that the children are a reflection of the parents, and the children should be able to say "If you have seen me then you have seen my parents"(Adam and Eve), which are children of Jesus , but the whole world is also children of Adam and Eve. Each story in the bible is the story of Adam and Eve, either in the beginning or in the end. Example: Noah builds boat to rescue people(God gave the plan but used Noah to deliver the warning) Adam will do the same thing in the End(Adam will lead the people to his Father Jesus, that the people will not only be children of Adam but also children of Jesus and will be rescued from eternal judgement) Sampson: Most powerful man on Earth, fell away from God but in the end turned back to God....Adam king of the world fell away from God but in the end will lead the people back to God Enoch and Elijah: Translated to heaven physcially to show when the two witnesses(two men with the spirit of ADAM and EVE) are physically taken to heaven after laying in the street for everyone to see for 3 and a half days Joshua and Zerubabbel build the physical temple of God. When you accept Jesus as savior, repent, and turn from sin you become the spiritual temple of God. Adam and Eve(two witnesses) build the spiritual temple which in result is the spiritual children of God instead of the physical children Adam and Eve made in the beginning. Story after story is showing the children of Adam and Eve copying their parents, so the children will say: "If you have seen me you have seen my parents" Each story is showing a piece of the story of Adam and Eve. Just as Adam is lower than Jesus, so the children are lower than Adam but imitate their father So that is why we are confused on which prophets are the two witnesses because they all imitated pieces of their parents(Adam and Eve) lives. IN THE END Two men will have the spirit of Adam(head of the house) and Eve(helper) and complete all the stories their children had in the bible, and then it will be able to be said "IF YOU HAVE SEEN ME YOU HAVE SEEN MY FATHER" Last Edited by waterman on 11/28/2012 07:35 PM |
| waterman (OP) User ID: 26724077 11/27/2012 04:13 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Posted from another poster but good revelation: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22728347 It seems that waterman in the eyes of those who sit on the shorelines are fearful that he is treading in dangerous waters. These are the waters in which the Spirit of God works best in! You say it's all about Jesus (Bless His most holy name). Well that is what David also thought until the Word of God (Jesus) revealed to him another man hidden from understanding (2Sam.7:12-29KJV). This upset David's doctrinal view point, so dramatically that he cried out, saying, is this the manner of man(2Sam.7:19). In other words king David is seeing a man in this prophetic vision given to him by God, so exalted that he does not believe God would exalt a man (human being to such a high position, he declares, is this a man,(a human being, we are talking about here!) This was someone he (David) did not recognize. Now he knew his own heir who was next to reign, was not who the prophecy was speaking about, no it was not him for this promise was to appear long after both him and his heir were dead. This prophecy was to be fulfilled, after a great while to come and he only knew him as his name was called (GOD'S SERVANT),(2Sam.7:19,20,21,25-29 KJV). He also Knew that it was not his Lord and the coming Messiah (JESUS)! For he had seen Him in other visions and prophetic utterances and declared Him as Lord, and he would have recognized Him! No this one was destined to become the ruler of God's house (The Whole Kingdom)! Now do you understand why David could hardly take in the concept of what was being revealed to him! That one day God was going to entrust into the hands of a human being created by his own command, the whole Kingdom of the Most High!!! Hard to believe, but God's Word does not lie. Listen to waterman. he may very well have stumbled upon a truth whose time has come. This does not take from God's glory, but adds to the depth of God's goodness of his trust in His creation. To entrust the Kingdom of God into the hands of a human being forever, is an act beyond imagination!! The whole of all creation in the hands of a man!!! Something not seen by the eye, nor heard by the ear. That is how God operates. He does the unexpected!!! Let waterman ramble on. If the message be of God it shall prosper, and if Satan, it shall cease. All was entrusted into the Hands of His SON. Would not the same act be done by the SON, to His son, a human (last Adam). ![]() Last Edited by waterman on 11/28/2012 07:31 PM |
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| waterman (OP) User ID: 26724077 11/27/2012 06:10 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Isaiah 6: 9He said, “Go and tell this people: “‘Be ever hearing, but never understanding; be ever seeing, but never perceiving.’ 10Make the heart of this people calloused; make their ears dull and close their eyes.a Otherwise they might see with their eyes, hear with their ears, understand with their hearts, and turn and be healed.” 11Then I said, “For how long, O Lord?” And he answered: “Until the cities lie ruined(united states destroyed) and without inhabitant, until the houses are left deserted and the fields ruined and ravaged, 12until the Lord has sent everyone far away and the land is utterly forsaken. 13And though a tenth remains in the land, it will again be laid waste. But as the terebinth and oak leave stumps when they are cut down, so the holy seed will be the stump in the land.” |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27205820 11/28/2012 02:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Faith: not wanting to know what is true. A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything. After coming into contact with a religious man I always feel I must wash my hands. Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man. In heaven, all the interesting people are missing. In Christianity neither morality nor religion come into contact with reality at any point. When one has not had a good father, one must create one. Fear is the mother of morality. The Christian resolution to find the world ugly and bad has made the world ugly and bad. I cannot believe in a God who wants to be praised all the time. Is man one of God's blunders? Or is God one of man's blunders? Every church is a stone on the grave of a god-man: it does not want him to rise up again under any circumstances. There are people who want to make men's lives more difficult for no other reason than the chance it provides them afterwards to offer their prescription for alleviating life; their Christianity, for instance. Friedrich Nietzsche |
| IAMIAM User ID: 13843864 11/28/2012 02:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nietzsche is DEAD! Learn from life, not the dead. You will find it more enjoyable that way. |
| waterman (OP) User ID: 26724077 11/28/2012 08:29 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Faith: not wanting to know what is true. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27205820 A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything. After coming into contact with a religious man I always feel I must wash my hands. Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man. In heaven, all the interesting people are missing. In Christianity neither morality nor religion come into contact with reality at any point. When one has not had a good father, one must create one. Fear is the mother of morality. The Christian resolution to find the world ugly and bad has made the world ugly and bad. I cannot believe in a God who wants to be praised all the time. Is man one of God's blunders? Or is God one of man's blunders? Every church is a stone on the grave of a god-man: it does not want him to rise up again under any circumstances. There are people who want to make men's lives more difficult for no other reason than the chance it provides them afterwards to offer their prescription for alleviating life; their Christianity, for instance. Friedrich Nietzsche Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22728347 You stand at a disadvantage my friend. For you are beholding spiritual observations through fleshly eyes; and so do all that are dead in their spirits. However, the one who has experienced both spiritual death, and afterwards spiritual quickening has observed through both fleshly and spiritual eyes, that spiritual realm. So such a one has a greater perspective of those dual realities, (fleshly and spiritually). Definitely then those who have been quickened into this new (spiritual) realm, are not lacking understanding of the fleshly concept of spiritual matters. For once we all were only observers from the fleshly perspective of spiritual concepts. So then a child is contented in his simplicity, but once he enters into adulthood he sees the folly of those times. Tell a child he is foolish to play with toys, and he will dislike you. Tell an adult he must once again think like a child, and he will despise you. In our eyes, as adults, the child's pursuits are foolish. That is because we as adults are far above their understanding, and we see the void of their awareness of the serious things of the fleshly life. So it is so with the fleshly realm. However, it is adverse of that of the spiritual discernment.For what seemed foolish within the fleshly perspective; once you enter into the spiritual realm, no longer an observer from afar, but as part of that higher order. Then you realize the folly of your past observation,(just as the adult from childhood, he now sees the folly of his youth.) This is because in the ignorance of one's lack of a concept, there rest a dwelling place, even in this life, far beyond our ability to comprehend! In that fashion of order all is reversed; in that hidden realm that cannot be felt or truly seen, or heard, or even tasted of, in mindful observance. For in that place the only entrance is faith in the holder of the gate of entrance. There the adult full of himself and laden with sin, guilt, and sorrow, sheds them all and he is allowed to return to the innocence of his youth. He dwells now in the comfort of the joy of knowing it finally all came together when he trusted in that one which through fleshly observation was actually hidden from his eyes all along. For flesh (fleshly reasoning, thinking, observance) cannot inherit the Kingdom of God! Last Edited by waterman on 11/28/2012 09:56 AM |
| DaddysGirl User ID: 28631581 11/28/2012 08:40 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why do you feel you must share this information on a site where Christians are hated? Go to Christian sites such as Rapture Ready, The Five Doves and other 'rapture' sites to let them know. Only two or three people here will even be 'able' (if any) to receive this revelation (if indeed it is one) from you. Revelations must be given to each person individually by God Himself. You can't 'make' someone 'understand' the revelation you were given. It doesn't work that way. If you feel this is truth, then pray that God will give this truth to those whose spirits are mature enough to receive it. Forgive me if I sound rude, but I honestly think you're wasting your time putting this information here. Go someplace where the information can be received... |
| waterman (OP) User ID: 26724077 11/28/2012 08:53 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why do you feel you must share this information on a site where Christians are hated? Quoting: DaddysGirl Go to Christian sites such as Rapture Ready, The Five Doves and other 'rapture' sites to let them know. Only two or three people here will even be 'able' (if any) to receive this revelation (if indeed it is one) from you. Revelations must be given to each person individually by God Himself. You can't 'make' someone 'understand' the revelation you were given. It doesn't work that way. If you feel this is truth, then pray that God will give this truth to those whose spirits are mature enough to receive it. Forgive me if I sound rude, but I honestly think you're wasting your time putting this information here. Go someplace where the information can be received... Follow Jesus' example, Jesus always hung out with sinners. When Jesus heard it, he saith unto them, They that are whole have no need of the physician, but they that are sick: I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance. and people can't get revelation if there is nobody to tell them, because most don't read the bible. thanks for your reply and reading my thread |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 5248308 11/28/2012 09:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Psssst!! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5248308 Jesus Christ is the 2nd Adam, the First Born of the New Creation. Says so right there if you read it. It also says that Jesus Christ is Yahweh Incorporated if you read it. The Bible is a massively profound book IF YOU READ IT. Problem is, most people don't bother to read it. "I and my Father are One." -- Jesus Christ -- John 10:30 2nd Adam: 1 Corinthians 15:45 So also it is written, “The first man, Adam, became a living person”; the last Adam became a life-giving spirit. |
| Abi ~ User ID: 25045778 11/28/2012 09:10 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sorry, OP...I enjoy your posts, I just could not finish reading all that you shared... Quoting: Abi ~ the bold and underlined and so much of it, hurt my eyes..Not being disrespectful, just saying...I will try and read this in little bits... thanks for your post...I just used bold and underline because that is a very important part to understand yw..I am reading it, slowly...thanks for posting it..;) You accept the love you think you deserve.... True science discovers God waiting behind every door.....~ Terrorism is a political weapon.....~ It's not what you look at that matters, it's what you see. Henry David Thoreau ~ |
| waterman (OP) User ID: 26724077 11/28/2012 09:14 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Psssst!! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5248308 Jesus Christ is the 2nd Adam, the First Born of the New Creation. Says so right there if you read it. It also says that Jesus Christ is Yahweh Incorporated if you read it. The Bible is a massively profound book IF YOU READ IT. Problem is, most people don't bother to read it. "I and my Father are One." -- Jesus Christ -- John 10:30 2nd Adam: 1 Corinthians 15:45 So also it is written, “The first man, Adam, became a living person”; the last Adam became a life-giving spirit. Adam is Jesus' firstborn and is made in the image of his father. Adam comes in the beginning of the book and the end just as Jesus was before David and after David...Adam has been so well hid people haven't seen it and it won't be revealed til the end. Last Edited by waterman on 11/28/2012 09:08 PM |
| Goofy for God Do everything with love User ID: 16845676 11/28/2012 09:29 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why do you feel you must share this information on a site where Christians are hated? Quoting: DaddysGirl Go to Christian sites such as Rapture Ready, The Five Doves and other 'rapture' sites to let them know. Only two or three people here will even be 'able' (if any) to receive this revelation (if indeed it is one) from you. Revelations must be given to each person individually by God Himself. You can't 'make' someone 'understand' the revelation you were given. It doesn't work that way. If you feel this is truth, then pray that God will give this truth to those whose spirits are mature enough to receive it. Forgive me if I sound rude, but I honestly think you're wasting your time putting this information here. Go someplace where the information can be received... Not wasting time ever to share the word and Christians are not hated here , sorry you have miss understood ever look at the owners name and avatar Matthew 5:44 But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, |
| Goofy for God Do everything with love User ID: 16845676 11/28/2012 09:34 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Blahblahblah User ID: 12384893 11/28/2012 11:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wellllll........It was an interesting read but seems like everyone is still stuck with a duality veiwpoint. Climb high enough up the ladder and you might see that ultimately there is "no" good or evil....He/She/It/They are just one....Awareness.... |
| waterman (OP) User ID: 26724077 11/28/2012 11:49 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jesus was a mushroom. Look it up look at all the art work with Jesus. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23504424 Mushrooms don't write. Mushrooms grow in a manger. Google it! Weak people with weak faith will not look it up. Mana = mushrooms. Look at the life cycle of the mushroom they took. Turns into a cup. Or grail. The dew gets in there and turns red. Blood of Christ. Drink it and get high in the god mind. Bible is in code to hide the truth. People get so lost in the words. They can't think clearly. Wow! really God's a mushroom? You have set the bar my friend. Jesus is not a mushroom. Jesus is the Son of God and the Savior of the World, for those who don't believe this, get in line with the guy who thinks God is a mushroom. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27205820 11/28/2012 12:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Faith: not wanting to know what is true. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27205820 A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything. After coming into contact with a religious man I always feel I must wash my hands. Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man. In heaven, all the interesting people are missing. In Christianity neither morality nor religion come into contact with reality at any point. When one has not had a good father, one must create one. Fear is the mother of morality. The Christian resolution to find the world ugly and bad has made the world ugly and bad. I cannot believe in a God who wants to be praised all the time. Is man one of God's blunders? Or is God one of man's blunders? Every church is a stone on the grave of a god-man: it does not want him to rise up again under any circumstances. There are people who want to make men's lives more difficult for no other reason than the chance it provides them afterwards to offer their prescription for alleviating life; their Christianity, for instance. Friedrich Nietzsche Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22728347 You stand at a disadvantage my friend. For you are beholding spiritual observations through fleshly eyes; and so do all that are dead in their spirits. However, the one who has experienced both spiritual death, and afterwards spiritual quickening has observed through both fleshly and spiritual eyes, that spiritual realm. So such a one has a greater perspective of those dual realities, (fleshly and spiritually). Definitely then those who have been quickened into this new (spiritual) realm, are not lacking understanding of the fleshly concept of spiritual matters. For once we all were only observers from the fleshly perspective of spiritual concepts. So then a child is contented in his simplicity, but once he enters into adulthood he sees the folly of those times. Tell a child he is foolish to play with toys, and he will dislike you. Tell an adult he must once again think like a child, and he will despise you. In our eyes, as adults, the child's pursuits are foolish. That is because we as adults are far above their understanding, and we see the void of their awareness of the serious things of the fleshly life. So it is so with the fleshly realm. However, it is adverse of that of the spiritual discernment.For what seemed foolish within the fleshly perspective; once you enter into the spiritual realm, no longer an observer from afar, but as part of that higher order. Then you realize the folly of your past observation,(just as the adult from childhood, he now sees the folly of his youth.) This is because in the ignorance of one's lack of a concept, there rest a dwelling place, even in this life, far beyond our ability to comprehend! In that fashion of order all is reversed; in that hidden realm that cannot be felt or truly seen, or heard, or even tasted of, in mindful observance. For in that place the only entrance is faith in the holder of the gate of entrance. There the adult full of himself and laden with sin, guilt, and sorrow, sheds them all and he is allowed to return to the innocence of his youth. He dwells now in the comfort of the joy of knowing it finally all came together when he trusted in that one which through fleshly observation was actually hidden from his eyes all along. For flesh (fleshly reasoning, thinking, observance) cannot inherit the Kingdom of God! I will deal with fact and science. Prove it. If there was a higher power wouldn't you think he or she would have shown some proof? I do understand it is in bad taste to push one's beliefs in the case of religion but that's a two way street. I don't need saving. I respect others and have morals, I just didn't get them from the bible or guru. Why do Christians always tell me I'm going to burn in hell like they are trying to make my mind up to believe? I am perfectly capable of making my own mind up. I don't agree with you but that doesn't mean I don't respect you as a person. There is no good or bad here, we just disagree. |