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AMAZING REVELATION!!! THE WHOLE BIBLE IS ABOUT JESUS AND THE WHOLE BIBLE IS ABOUT ADAM

 
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For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
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Then is God begotten?

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God the Father always was, God the Son is, and was the word/words in the mouth of God, the Father. God (the Father) commanded that his word/words should create all things spoken by him; and later that his word should become flesh, and so Jesus appeared before men (John 1:14), for even a greater purpose. Nevertheless, Jesus was always with the the Father for he was the word/words God spoke from his own mouth. So in that sense Jesus is God. The spirit of God is that entity that exist of God in the invisible, for he is of spirit, and is holy, for he is the combination of both the Father and Son, in action,(invisible and visible) but of his own self existence. One is thought (God the Father) one is word (God the Son) one is action (God the Holy Spirit). Thus, is brought forth, through them (the trinity); all that has ever been accomplished in the invisible and visible creation! All things were created by the Word, thru this method. Thus, let US (trinity) make man in our image...soul(thought),(body),(spirit). Now, hear oh Israel! God is one, and his word is flesh, and his spirit is holy!
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It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honor of kings is to search out a matter.



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So if some are kings and others are priests..what matters does priests search out, if only kings are called to be searchers; or is that office (priests) silent in its discovers? Or perhaps the children of God are both kings and priest! What say you waterman? Can a man be both a king and priest?
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only Jesus is king and priest...it is showing that even the highest in the kingdom which are kings have to search for what God conceals, for they are not equal to God.

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....only Jesus is king and priest... This would contradict the word of God (Rom. 8:29kjv) For those God foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the likeness of his Son.(1John.3:2) We know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. If he was a KING and PRIEST then, he is a KING and PRIEST now, and so shall all his children be made into his image, and shall be of those positions as well...kings and priests, not now, but in the future. This is not competing against our God or seeking equality, but fulfilling the Father's desire that we be conformed into the very image of his dear Son. If Jesus holds dual offices, then for some future purpose we are also destined to also conform in that same manner, for a smaller purpose; but by no means less important in Gods overall plan. Some of higher orders than others depending on their God given future domain and realm.

In the physical (earthly) there was a division of these two offices, by men, but in the spiritual (heavenly) there is no division; as Christ is the example. Both offices are held by the example of one man; and following that future image, all men (in the generic expression) might follow that example! For we will be made into that exact same image as our Lord, kings and priest.
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It takes 2 parents to bring forth a child. A child is like the parent but the 2 parents were brought together as one to make the child. The child doesn't become male and female but becomes one or the other. Kings and priests are the spiritual gender in heaven if we were meant to be both genders there would have been a foreshadow of it in the physical. King Uzziah tried to be king and priest and was stricken with leprosy for the rest of his life, because it is not lawful to be king and priest, unless your God, as Jesus is the only one to hold that position in one body.

King and Priest in one body is for Jesus only.

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So if some are kings and others are priests..what matters does priests search out, if only kings are called to be searchers; or is that office (priests) silent in its discovers? Or perhaps the children of God are both kings and priest! What say you waterman? Can a man be both a king and priest?
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only Jesus is king and priest...it is showing that even the highest in the kingdom which are kings have to search for what God conceals, for they are not equal to God.

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....only Jesus is king and priest... This would contradict the word of God (Rom. 8:29kjv) For those God foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the likeness of his Son.(1John.3:2) We know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. If he was a KING and PRIEST then, he is a KING and PRIEST now, and so shall all his children be made into his image, and shall be of those positions as well...kings and priests, not now, but in the future. This is not competing against our God or seeking equality, but fulfilling the Father's desire that we be conformed into the very image of his dear Son. If Jesus holds dual offices, then for some future purpose we are also destined to also conform in that same manner, for a smaller purpose; but by no means less important in Gods overall plan. Some of higher orders than others depending on their God given future domain and realm.

In the physical (earthly) there was a division of these two offices, by men, but in the spiritual (heavenly) there is no division; as Christ is the example. Both offices are held by the example of one man; and following that future image, all men (in the generic expression) might follow that example! For we will be made into that exact same image as our Lord, kings and priest.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22728347


It takes 2 parents to bring forth a child. A child is like the parent but the 2 parents were brought together as one to make the child. The child doesn't become male and female but becomes one or the other. Kings and priests are the spiritual gender in heaven if we were meant to be both genders there would have been a foreshadow of it in the physical. King Uzziah tried to be king and priest and was stricken with leprosy for the rest of his life, because it is not lawful to be king and priest, unless your God, as Jesus is the only one to hold that position in one body.

King and Priest in one body is for Jesus only.

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You are assuming, but give no foundational evidence spiritually of these things. You say the spiritual gender in heaven is kings and priests..where in scripture is that stated? So those of us who strive for a crown as the scriptures encourage us to do so, are wasting our time if we are only meant to be called to the priesthood. For a priest has no crown, but a king only. Or are you saying the priest is entitled to a crown as well, but a king no recognition as to the priesthood!
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this is all adams dream. It mentions adam fallings asleep in genesis but it never mentions that adam wakes up.
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this is all adams dream. It mentions adam fallings asleep in genesis but it never mentions that adam wakes up.
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Of course Adam wakes up, and suddenly Eve tempts him to believe a lie! He shall not get entrapped a second time, lol.
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only Jesus is king and priest...it is showing that even the highest in the kingdom which are kings have to search for what God conceals, for they are not equal to God.

 Quoting: waterman
....only Jesus is king and priest... This would contradict the word of God (Rom. 8:29kjv) For those God foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the likeness of his Son.(1John.3:2) We know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. If he was a KING and PRIEST then, he is a KING and PRIEST now, and so shall all his children be made into his image, and shall be of those positions as well...kings and priests, not now, but in the future. This is not competing against our God or seeking equality, but fulfilling the Father's desire that we be conformed into the very image of his dear Son. If Jesus holds dual offices, then for some future purpose we are also destined to also conform in that same manner, for a smaller purpose; but by no means less important in Gods overall plan. Some of higher orders than others depending on their God given future domain and realm.

In the physical (earthly) there was a division of these two offices, by men, but in the spiritual (heavenly) there is no division; as Christ is the example. Both offices are held by the example of one man; and following that future image, all men (in the generic expression) might follow that example! For we will be made into that exact same image as our Lord, kings and priest.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22728347


It takes 2 parents to bring forth a child. A child is like the parent but the 2 parents were brought together as one to make the child. The child doesn't become male and female but becomes one or the other. Kings and priests are the spiritual gender in heaven if we were meant to be both genders there would have been a foreshadow of it in the physical. King Uzziah tried to be king and priest and was stricken with leprosy for the rest of his life, because it is not lawful to be king and priest, unless your God, as Jesus is the only one to hold that position in one body.

King and Priest in one body is for Jesus only.

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You are assuming, but give no foundational evidence spiritually of these things. You say the spiritual gender in heaven is kings and priests..where in scripture is that stated? So those of us who strive for a crown as the scriptures encourage us to do so, are wasting our time if we are only meant to be called to the priesthood. For a priest has no crown, but a king only. Or are you saying the priest is entitled to a crown as well, but a king no recognition as to the priesthood!
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why wouldn't a priest have a crown it is shown they do in scripture :
Zechariah 6:11
Then take silver and gold, and make a crown, and set it upon the head of Joshua the son of Jehozadak, the high priest;
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Good video from 29:00 on if you don't have time to watch the whole thing: Eves name makes up one half of the name of God and Adams name makes up the other half of the name of God. Adams name only makes up one half of Gods name and Eves name makes up the other half. Rabbis know this. Adam was made up of king(male) and priest(female), and Eve took the feminine side when she came forth. It's hard to argue the original translation and yet some only see what they want to see...lol



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....only Jesus is king and priest... This would contradict the word of God (Rom. 8:29kjv) For those God foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the likeness of his Son.(1John.3:2) We know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. If he was a KING and PRIEST then, he is a KING and PRIEST now, and so shall all his children be made into his image, and shall be of those positions as well...kings and priests, not now, but in the future. This is not competing against our God or seeking equality, but fulfilling the Father's desire that we be conformed into the very image of his dear Son. If Jesus holds dual offices, then for some future purpose we are also destined to also conform in that same manner, for a smaller purpose; but by no means less important in Gods overall plan. Some of higher orders than others depending on their God given future domain and realm.

In the physical (earthly) there was a division of these two offices, by men, but in the spiritual (heavenly) there is no division; as Christ is the example. Both offices are held by the example of one man; and following that future image, all men (in the generic expression) might follow that example! For we will be made into that exact same image as our Lord, kings and priest.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22728347


It takes 2 parents to bring forth a child. A child is like the parent but the 2 parents were brought together as one to make the child. The child doesn't become male and female but becomes one or the other. Kings and priests are the spiritual gender in heaven if we were meant to be both genders there would have been a foreshadow of it in the physical. King Uzziah tried to be king and priest and was stricken with leprosy for the rest of his life, because it is not lawful to be king and priest, unless your God, as Jesus is the only one to hold that position in one body.

King and Priest in one body is for Jesus only.

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You are assuming, but give no foundational evidence spiritually of these things. You say the spiritual gender in heaven is kings and priests..where in scripture is that stated? So those of us who strive for a crown as the scriptures encourage us to do so, are wasting our time if we are only meant to be called to the priesthood. For a priest has no crown, but a king only. Or are you saying the priest is entitled to a crown as well, but a king no recognition as to the priesthood!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22728347


why wouldn't a priest have a crown it is shown they do in scripture :
Zechariah 6:11
Then take silver and gold, and make a crown, and set it upon the head of Joshua the son of Jehozadak, the high priest;
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That was not the contention, but the king having no symbol of his priesthood. Nevertheless, it is nice we can agree that the priest has a symbolism of a king (a crown) and I am sure somewhere the king has a symbolism of a priest. Therefore, the dual role of both, in rare cases in future events.
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this is all adams dream. It mentions adam fallings asleep in genesis but it never mentions that adam wakes up.
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Of course Adam wakes up, and suddenly Eve tempts him to believe a lie! He shall not get entrapped a second time, lol.
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If Eve was tempting Adam to believe a lie the 2nd time there would be no way for the kingdom to come forth, for a physical kingdom needs 2 to come forth and a spiritual kingdom also needs 2 to come forth. Adam can't bring forth spiritual children without the priest side as the kingdom is made up of kings and priests and Adam only has the king chromozone, Eve has the priest chromozone. Males are made up of XY choromozones females are made up of XX. When a child is brought forth form the union of male and female, the seed of the male gives either the x or the y of his chromozone. The female from her egg gives one of her x chromozone...if the father gave the x the female automatically has an x and a female is produced(XX). If the father gives the y then the female will give one of her x and a male is produced(XY)...you cant bring a spiritual kingdom forth without 2, the physical is a foreshadow of the spiritual kingdom. A person could wait til they are a hundred and it isn't going to change...2,2,2,2,2,,2 not 1,1,1,1,1,1, produce a kingdom.......The males genes determine the gender but the male isn't making anything by himself, because he needs the egg to produce something.
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Good video from 29:00 on if you don't have time to watch the whole thing: Eves name makes up one half of the name of God and Adams name makes up the other half of the name of God. Adams name only makes up one half of Gods name and Eves name makes up the other half. Rabbis know this. Adam was made up of king(male) and priest(female), and Eve took the feminine side when she came forth. It's hard to argue the original translation and yet some only see what they want to see...lol




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Because someone does not see a thing as you see it, does not necessarily mean they are seeing something wrong or contrary to what you or some other source thinks is the correct order of things.
Do not be testy waterman, it does not become you! I agree with many of your concepts, but the placement of the order of certain things are not how I see scripture's declaration of the end days and the meaning of that source of fulfillment. However, if you have received inspirational instructions, or a promise from a higher source, I would be glad to entertain that comment, and consider the source of that direction.
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this is all adams dream. It mentions adam fallings asleep in genesis but it never mentions that adam wakes up.
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Of course Adam wakes up, and suddenly Eve tempts him to believe a lie! He shall not get entrapped a second time, lol.
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If Eve was tempting Adam to believe a lie the 2nd time there would be no way for the kingdom to come forth, for a physical kingdom needs 2 to come forth and a spiritual kingdom also needs 2 to come forth. Adam can't bring forth spiritual children without the priest side as the kingdom is made up of kings and priests and Adam only has the king chromozone, Eve has the priest chromozone. Males are made up of XY choromozones females are made up of XX. When a child is brought forth form the union of male and female, the seed of the male gives either the x or the y of his chromozone. The female from her egg gives one of her x chromozone...if the father gave the x the female automatically has an x and a female is produced(XX). If the father gives the y then the female will give one of her x and a male is produced(XY)...you cant bring a spiritual kingdom forth without 2, the physical is a foreshadow of the spiritual kingdom. A person could wait til they are a hundred and it isn't going to change...2,2,2,2,2,,2 not 1,1,1,1,1,1, produce a kingdom.......The males genes determine the gender but the male isn't making anything by himself, because he needs the egg to produce something.

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If Adam caught the tempting of Eve, and could convince her of the deception, for her own desire brings forth that need to be of a higher order than is meant,(You shall be like God). Therefore, Eve seeks that high position that never was intended, and so she sees a lie as a truth, and will seek to convince the promise of that lie to the one who is promised that kingdom, as the rightful ruler of that future world; Adam! If Satan can convince Eve that Adam is not sufficient in what God has given him, the kingdom will not come forth. Perhaps that is the purpose for the future time of Jacob's trouble (42 months). The real Jacob, not the counterfeit one, who has heard of no promise from God, except ones own concept of beliefs, absent a confirmation from any source!
The gender makeup, producing children is a far cry from some spiritual agenda conjured up from some self interpretation of Adam and Eve's further purpose. Saying all male's are kings, and all females are priest, makes no biblical sense at all, sorry!
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this is all adams dream. It mentions adam fallings asleep in genesis but it never mentions that adam wakes up.
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Of course Adam wakes up, and suddenly Eve tempts him to believe a lie! He shall not get entrapped a second time, lol.
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If Eve was tempting Adam to believe a lie the 2nd time there would be no way for the kingdom to come forth, for a physical kingdom needs 2 to come forth and a spiritual kingdom also needs 2 to come forth. Adam can't bring forth spiritual children without the priest side as the kingdom is made up of kings and priests and Adam only has the king chromozone, Eve has the priest chromozone. Males are made up of XY choromozones females are made up of XX. When a child is brought forth form the union of male and female, the seed of the male gives either the x or the y of his chromozone. The female from her egg gives one of her x chromozone...if the father gave the x the female automatically has an x and a female is produced(XX). If the father gives the y then the female will give one of her x and a male is produced(XY)...you cant bring a spiritual kingdom forth without 2, the physical is a foreshadow of the spiritual kingdom. A person could wait til they are a hundred and it isn't going to change...2,2,2,2,2,,2 not 1,1,1,1,1,1, produce a kingdom.......The males genes determine the gender but the male isn't making anything by himself, because he needs the egg to produce something.

 Quoting: waterman
If Adam caught the tempting of Eve, and could convince her of the deception, for her own desire brings forth that need to be of a higher order than is meant,(You shall be like God). Therefore, Eve seeks that high position that never was intended, and so she sees a lie as a truth, and will seek to convince the promise of that lie to the one who is promised that kingdom, as the rightful ruler of that future world; Adam! If Satan can convince Eve that Adam is not sufficient in what God has given him, the kingdom will not come forth. Perhaps that is the purpose for the future time of Jacob's trouble (42 months). The real Jacob, not the counterfeit one, who has heard of no promise from God, except ones own concept of beliefs, absent a confirmation from any source!
The gender makeup, producing children is a far cry from some spiritual agenda conjured up from some self interpretation of Adam and Eve's further purpose. Saying all male's are kings, and all females are priest, makes no biblical sense at all, sorry!
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The real Jacob, not the counterfeit one, who has heard of no promise from God, except ones own concept of beliefs, absent a confirmation from any source!

I"VE GOT 66 books of promise, how could you say people have no source except for a personal visit from God himself. Is the bible only good if God comes personally and tells you that you have purpose in life or does God base everything on FAITH and the Word of God?






Your placing Eve as Adams enemy instead of the mother of all mankind and the other half of Adam being they are one. If the enemy can play with your mind and make you believe everybody but him is the enemy he has accomplished his task.

Eve knows Jesus' place top top top and she also knows adams place 2nd 2nd 2nd. Jesus is priest and king, Adam is trying to be priest and king and Eve knows Adam is only king and Eve is only priest. No one can be equal with Jesus.

I never said all males are kings and all females are priests otherwise it wouldn't have been two witnessess prophets in rev. two male gendered in the physical sense but one a priest(female) and one a king(male) in the spiritual sense.

But I've read the end and know that it all works out in the end......if you see something and you don't tell the one your told to tell then that blood is on your own head but if you tell them and they ignore it then the blood is not on your own head but the one you told........ if the watchman sees the sword come, and blows not the trumpet, and the people are not warned; if the sword comes, and takes any person from among them, he is taken away in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at the watchman's hand.

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Of course Adam wakes up, and suddenly Eve tempts him to believe a lie! He shall not get entrapped a second time, lol.
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If Eve was tempting Adam to believe a lie the 2nd time there would be no way for the kingdom to come forth, for a physical kingdom needs 2 to come forth and a spiritual kingdom also needs 2 to come forth. Adam can't bring forth spiritual children without the priest side as the kingdom is made up of kings and priests and Adam only has the king chromozone, Eve has the priest chromozone. Males are made up of XY choromozones females are made up of XX. When a child is brought forth form the union of male and female, the seed of the male gives either the x or the y of his chromozone. The female from her egg gives one of her x chromozone...if the father gave the x the female automatically has an x and a female is produced(XX). If the father gives the y then the female will give one of her x and a male is produced(XY)...you cant bring a spiritual kingdom forth without 2, the physical is a foreshadow of the spiritual kingdom. A person could wait til they are a hundred and it isn't going to change...2,2,2,2,2,,2 not 1,1,1,1,1,1, produce a kingdom.......The males genes determine the gender but the male isn't making anything by himself, because he needs the egg to produce something.

 Quoting: waterman
If Adam caught the tempting of Eve, and could convince her of the deception, for her own desire brings forth that need to be of a higher order than is meant,(You shall be like God). Therefore, Eve seeks that high position that never was intended, and so she sees a lie as a truth, and will seek to convince the promise of that lie to the one who is promised that kingdom, as the rightful ruler of that future world; Adam! If Satan can convince Eve that Adam is not sufficient in what God has given him, the kingdom will not come forth. Perhaps that is the purpose for the future time of Jacob's trouble (42 months). The real Jacob, not the counterfeit one, who has heard of no promise from God, except ones own concept of beliefs, absent a confirmation from any source!
The gender makeup, producing children is a far cry from some spiritual agenda conjured up from some self interpretation of Adam and Eve's further purpose. Saying all male's are kings, and all females are priest, makes no biblical sense at all, sorry!
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The real Jacob, not the counterfeit one, who has heard of no promise from God, except ones own concept of beliefs, absent a confirmation from any source!

I"VE GOT 66 books of promise, how could you say people have no source except for a personal visit from God himself. Is the bible only good if God comes personally and tells you that you have purpose in life or does God base everything on FAITH and the Word of God?






Your placing Eve as Adams enemy instead of the mother of all mankind and the other half of Adam being they are one. If the enemy can play with your mind and make you believe everybody but him is the enemy he has accomplished his task.

Eve knows Jesus' place top top top and she also knows adams place 2nd 2nd 2nd. Jesus is priest and king, Adam is trying to be priest and king and Eve knows Adam is only king and Eve is only priest. No one can be equal with Jesus.

I never said all males are kings and all females are priests otherwise it wouldn't have been two witnessess prophets in rev. two male gendered in the physical sense but one a priest(female) and one a king(male) in the spiritual sense.

But I've read the end and know that it all works out in the end......if you see something and you don't tell the one your told to tell then that blood is on your own head but if you tell them and they ignore it then the blood is not on your own head but the one you told........ if the watchman sees the sword come, and blows not the trumpet, and the people are not warned; if the sword comes, and takes any person from among them, he is taken away in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at the watchman's hand.

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..I said nothing about a people having no source but (YOU HAVING NO SOURCE). I know of no prophet of old that didn't have some kind of an encounter with God, to help confirm his purposed calling, before he started making a specific claim. You know there is a thin line between faith and foolishness. You are quoting scripture here that is a little bit dramatic. You are placing yourself in the position of a watchman, seeking to save mankind from their iniquity, because they are not seeing eye to eye with your interpretation of scripture. And if we refuse to see it that way then our blood is going to be required.

Waterman, waterman, calm down! Even if you were God's greatest prophet, your approach would be of no edification to the listener. It sounds more like a threat of.. if you do not listen to me, God's going to get you.. and your blood will not be on my hands, because...you wouldn't obey or listen to me!
I lack a great deal in many things, but I am pretty sure that God's spirit is not guiding your explanation or approach toward others. The teacher, is patient. The prophet, edifying of the truth. The preacher a source of solace toward his listeners. The watchman is one who warns others of the danger ahead. So what is it that you profess to be, and by whose witness is this conformation. For your own threatenings would be a poor testimony.
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If Eve was tempting Adam to believe a lie the 2nd time there would be no way for the kingdom to come forth, for a physical kingdom needs 2 to come forth and a spiritual kingdom also needs 2 to come forth. Adam can't bring forth spiritual children without the priest side as the kingdom is made up of kings and priests and Adam only has the king chromozone, Eve has the priest chromozone. Males are made up of XY choromozones females are made up of XX. When a child is brought forth form the union of male and female, the seed of the male gives either the x or the y of his chromozone. The female from her egg gives one of her x chromozone...if the father gave the x the female automatically has an x and a female is produced(XX). If the father gives the y then the female will give one of her x and a male is produced(XY)...you cant bring a spiritual kingdom forth without 2, the physical is a foreshadow of the spiritual kingdom. A person could wait til they are a hundred and it isn't going to change...2,2,2,2,2,,2 not 1,1,1,1,1,1, produce a kingdom.......The males genes determine the gender but the male isn't making anything by himself, because he needs the egg to produce something.

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If Adam caught the tempting of Eve, and could convince her of the deception, for her own desire brings forth that need to be of a higher order than is meant,(You shall be like God). Therefore, Eve seeks that high position that never was intended, and so she sees a lie as a truth, and will seek to convince the promise of that lie to the one who is promised that kingdom, as the rightful ruler of that future world; Adam! If Satan can convince Eve that Adam is not sufficient in what God has given him, the kingdom will not come forth. Perhaps that is the purpose for the future time of Jacob's trouble (42 months). The real Jacob, not the counterfeit one, who has heard of no promise from God, except ones own concept of beliefs, absent a confirmation from any source!
The gender makeup, producing children is a far cry from some spiritual agenda conjured up from some self interpretation of Adam and Eve's further purpose. Saying all male's are kings, and all females are priest, makes no biblical sense at all, sorry!
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The real Jacob, not the counterfeit one, who has heard of no promise from God, except ones own concept of beliefs, absent a confirmation from any source!

I"VE GOT 66 books of promise, how could you say people have no source except for a personal visit from God himself. Is the bible only good if God comes personally and tells you that you have purpose in life or does God base everything on FAITH and the Word of God?






Your placing Eve as Adams enemy instead of the mother of all mankind and the other half of Adam being they are one. If the enemy can play with your mind and make you believe everybody but him is the enemy he has accomplished his task.

Eve knows Jesus' place top top top and she also knows adams place 2nd 2nd 2nd. Jesus is priest and king, Adam is trying to be priest and king and Eve knows Adam is only king and Eve is only priest. No one can be equal with Jesus.

I never said all males are kings and all females are priests otherwise it wouldn't have been two witnessess prophets in rev. two male gendered in the physical sense but one a priest(female) and one a king(male) in the spiritual sense.

But I've read the end and know that it all works out in the end......if you see something and you don't tell the one your told to tell then that blood is on your own head but if you tell them and they ignore it then the blood is not on your own head but the one you told........ if the watchman sees the sword come, and blows not the trumpet, and the people are not warned; if the sword comes, and takes any person from among them, he is taken away in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at the watchman's hand.

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..I said nothing about a people having no source but (YOU HAVING NO SOURCE). I know of no prophet of old that didn't have some kind of an encounter with God, to help confirm his purposed calling, before he started making a specific claim. You know there is a thin line between faith and foolishness. You are quoting scripture here that is a little bit dramatic. You are placing yourself in the position of a watchman, seeking to save mankind from their iniquity, because they are not seeing eye to eye with your interpretation of scripture. And if we refuse to see it that way then our blood is going to be required.

Waterman, waterman, calm down! Even if you were God's greatest prophet, your approach would be of no edification to the listener. It sounds more like a threat of.. if you do not listen to me, God's going to get you.. and your blood will not be on my hands, because...you wouldn't obey or listen to me!
I lack a great deal in many things, but I am pretty sure that God's spirit is not guiding your explanation or approach toward others. The teacher, is patient. The prophet, edifying of the truth. The preacher a source of solace toward his listeners. The watchman is one who warns others of the danger ahead. So what is it that you profess to be, and by whose witness is this conformation. For your own threatenings would be a poor testimony.
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I left no threats only said what I needed to say. If you see someone doing something that isn't lawful and see the concequences of what happened when it was done in the bible you warn the person. If the person doesn't want to listen they don't have to, it don't matter to me, I don't own anybody and everybody has their own choices to make
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BEAUTIFUL...The song for every true Christian. Each of us are His favorite one, in our own way.
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So if some are kings and others are priests..what matters does priests search out, if only kings are called to be searchers; or is that office (priests) silent in its discovers? Or perhaps the children of God are both kings and priest! What say you waterman? Can a man be both a king and priest?
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I'll give it to you straight.

God is the spirit of Life within you.

Thus, you are your own Priest, Prophet, and King.

However, you will NEVER come to realize what that means as long as you subject yourself to any other Man or body of men.

Tough times are ahead for those who choose to remain in bondage.

I told the Truth on the matter.

So there is no one to blame but one's own self.
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So if some are kings and others are priests..what matters does priests search out, if only kings are called to be searchers; or is that office (priests) silent in its discovers? Or perhaps the children of God are both kings and priest! What say you waterman? Can a man be both a king and priest?
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I'll give it to you straight.

God is the spirit of Life within you.

Thus, you are your own Priest, Prophet, and King.

However, you will NEVER come to realize what that means as long as you subject yourself to any other Man or body of men.

Tough times are ahead for those who choose to remain in bondage.

I told the Truth on the matter.

So there is no one to blame but one's own self.

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I am concerned, my friend, for you told your truth, but not necessarily the truth. God is the breath of (fleshly) life in each of us, but he is only the spirit of (spititual) life in a few. For he is the creator of all flesh, but the life giver of only some. Neither, are we guaranteed an order of standing because of that life, but only by assignment are we appointed and given gifts and callings..priest, prophets, and kings. So to claim in our own strength these things are appointed unto us, through our own positions is like one claiming to be an heir. Perhaps the claim is legitimate, but the proof must be in the documents. No documents that I have ever witnessed makes such a claim as yours, but these things are of your own perception and hold no bases of truth whatsoever.

Bondage, is not a choice of release, but a need of so. Releasing one from bondage, must be by a power greater than the bondage holder. If we cannot even set free from violence a small member (the tongue), of our own body, how can we hope to free ourselves from powers greater than our mastery. It is the difference in who are the masters that determines our positions..not our will or even desire, much less, our determination toward the finalization of those positions...priest, prophets, and kings!
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Two names we all know: ADAM & EVE
Ever wonder what happened to them?
Keeping in mind that this is PURE fiction, here is the scoop:
After blowing their first chance at Paradise on Earth with only one condition,
they exited their Avatars and returned to
Divine Central Casting to commune with the PRODUCER.
HE asked “WHAT HAPPENED?”

Adam spoke first
I have sinned and now come short of the Glory of the LORD.
I defied the ONE request you made of us, I have now caused only great suffering upon,
and delivery into SLAVERY of, my descendants,
therefore I deserve NOTHING.
I accept only guilt, grief, and separation from YOU as my Eternal punishment.
As Eve listened, tears poured from her eyes.
With FORCE she said
“NO, HERE is the TRUTH…”

“I made my first mistake by leaving my precious Adam’s side to wander into the beautiful and magnificent Garden You designed as our SET.
I came upon THE Tree, and wondered at it’s exquisite design. As I turned to return to Adam, the REPTILE suddenly appeared in front of me.
His gaze was hypnotic and the attraction was great.

I was seduced by his offer of the POWER which would result from the acquiring of the knowledge of Good and Evil, and GREED overcame me.
Once I had succumbed, I realized that I WAS then Evil.
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So if some are kings and others are priests..what matters does priests search out, if only kings are called to be searchers; or is that office (priests) silent in its discovers? Or perhaps the children of God are both kings and priest! What say you waterman? Can a man be both a king and priest?
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I'll give it to you straight.

God is the spirit of Life within you.

Thus, you are your own Priest, Prophet, and King.

However, you will NEVER come to realize what that means as long as you subject yourself to any other Man or body of men.

Tough times are ahead for those who choose to remain in bondage.

I told the Truth on the matter.

So there is no one to blame but one's own self.

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I am concerned, my friend, for you told your truth, but not necessarily the truth. God is the breath of (fleshly) life in each of us, but he is only the spirit of (spititual) life in a few. For he is the creator of all flesh, but the life giver of only some. Neither, are we guaranteed an order of standing because of that life, but only by assignment are we appointed and given gifts and callings..priest, prophets, and kings. So to claim in our own strength these things are appointed unto us, through our own positions is like one claiming to be an heir. Perhaps the claim is legitimate, but the proof must be in the documents. No documents that I have ever witnessed makes such a claim as yours, but these things are of your own perception and hold no bases of truth whatsoever.

Bondage, is not a choice of release, but a need of so. Releasing one from bondage, must be by a power greater than the bondage holder. If we cannot even set free from violence a small member (the tongue), of our own body, how can we hope to free ourselves from powers greater than our mastery. It is the difference in who are the masters that determines our positions..not our will or even desire, much less, our determination toward the finalization of those positions...priest, prophets, and kings!
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Everything you say is true.

And I tell YOU truly that I have been freed in my heart by the LORD and it is the LORD who has given me authority to reveal this to the WORLD.

However, my revelation is nothing if they which hear it have not received it in their heart by the LORD.

It is not by my strength, but by the strength of the LORD.

It is not revealed by any documents, but by one's own heart.
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So if some are kings and others are priests..what matters does priests search out, if only kings are called to be searchers; or is that office (priests) silent in its discovers? Or perhaps the children of God are both kings and priest! What say you waterman? Can a man be both a king and priest?
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I'll give it to you straight.

God is the spirit of Life within you.

Thus, you are your own Priest, Prophet, and King.

However, you will NEVER come to realize what that means as long as you subject yourself to any other Man or body of men.

Tough times are ahead for those who choose to remain in bondage.

I told the Truth on the matter.

So there is no one to blame but one's own self.

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I am concerned, my friend, for you told your truth, but not necessarily the truth. God is the breath of (fleshly) life in each of us, but he is only the spirit of (spititual) life in a few. For he is the creator of all flesh, but the life giver of only some. Neither, are we guaranteed an order of standing because of that life, but only by assignment are we appointed and given gifts and callings..priest, prophets, and kings. So to claim in our own strength these things are appointed unto us, through our own positions is like one claiming to be an heir. Perhaps the claim is legitimate, but the proof must be in the documents. No documents that I have ever witnessed makes such a claim as yours, but these things are of your own perception and hold no bases of truth whatsoever.

Bondage, is not a choice of release, but a need of so. Releasing one from bondage, must be by a power greater than the bondage holder. If we cannot even set free from violence a small member (the tongue), of our own body, how can we hope to free ourselves from powers greater than our mastery. It is the difference in who are the masters that determines our positions..not our will or even desire, much less, our determination toward the finalization of those positions...priest, prophets, and kings!
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Everything you say is true.

And I tell YOU truly that I have been freed in my heart by the LORD and it is the LORD who has given me authority to reveal this to the WORLD.

However, my revelation is nothing if they which hear it have not received it in their heart by the LORD.

It is not by my strength, but by the strength of the LORD.

It is not revealed by any documents, but by one's own heart.

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Without the telling forth of the documents (books of the Word of God), the heart will not realize its greater need. Nevertheless, your position is correct, and your strength is in the right place.
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Without the telling forth of the documents (books of the Word of God), the heart will not realize its greater need. Nevertheless, your position is correct, and your strength is in the right place.
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Well I did write a book which follows the book of revelations involving the whole world as interactive characters.

It is a treasure hunt of sorts...

Thread: Book of the Seven Seals


My works that I am doing now on this very forum is a further continuation of that book.

Each and every post counts!

But that is all I have to offer.

These are the talents the LORD gave me.

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Without the telling forth of the documents (books of the Word of God), the heart will not realize its greater need. Nevertheless, your position is correct, and your strength is in the right place.
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Well I did write a book which follows the book of revelations involving the whole world as interactive characters.

It is a treasure hunt of sorts...

Thread: Book of the Seven Seals


My works that I am doing now on this very forum is a further continuation of that book.

Each and every post counts!

But that is all I have to offer.

These are the talents the LORD gave me.

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The utilization of our talents is all the Lord ask of us, and obedience; for the latter is greater than service or sacrifice. Very well my friend.

Nevertheless, I was referring more precisely to the 66 books of the Bible, but I will take a look at your book. I also have had a couple of books published myself..one..on the interpreted prophecies of several books, of the bible, including Revelation, and the book of Enoch. Also, another book dealing with the casting away of bondage.
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Nevertheless, I was referring more precisely to the 66 books of the Bible, but I will take a look at your book. I also have had a couple of books published myself..one..on the interpreted prophecies of several books, of the bible, including Revelation, and the book of Enoch. Also, another book dealing with the casting away of bondage.
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My book ties all of it together.

The Torah, The New Testament, and the Quran.

With your field of expertise, it should be a treat for you.
Thread: Chains

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