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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 28522322 Portugal 11/26/2012 01:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Joe Bastardi‏@BigJoeBastardi You can count 5 areas with cool that offset the areal coverage of US warmth. Arctic warmth will end when AMO flips [link to twitter.com] |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 28522322 Portugal 11/26/2012 01:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Pure Climate Skeptic‏@Carbongate Arctic sea ice returns to normal levels [link to ocean.dmi.dk] … |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 28522322 Portugal 11/26/2012 01:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Joe Bastardi‏@BigJoeBastardi So to my friends spouting AGW drivel, except forUS and Canada, almost everywhere that life thrives ARE COOLER THAN AVE [link to twitter.com] |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 28522322 Portugal 11/26/2012 01:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Pattern forecasted by Korean model Jan 1-10 looks like pattern mid Dec 1967-early Jan 1968 that lead to severe US cold [link to twitter.com] 56 minJoe Bastardi‏@BigJoeBastardi There is alot going on Typhoon wpac...heat wave next week followed by cold. Euro/China in deep freeze |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 28522322 Portugal 11/26/2012 02:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Joe Bastardi‏@BigJoeBastardi Quoting: Luisport So to my friends spouting AGW drivel, except forUS and Canada, almost everywhere that life thrives ARE COOLER THAN AVE [link to twitter.com] A 1C change up or down has a significant impact. For example, the last ice age was only a -1.5 to -2C change in global average temperature. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 28533978 Russia 11/26/2012 04:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "According to a New York Times article on the subject, there is much more skepticism of global warming among meteorologists (such as Bastardi) than among climate scientists. Such skepticism appears to be widespread among TV forecasters, about half of whom have a degree in meteorology. A study released on Monday by researchers at George Mason University and the University of Texas at Austin found that only about half of the 571 television weathercasters surveyed believed that global warming was occurring and fewer than a third believed that climate change was “caused mostly by human activities." [link to en.wikipedia.org] What do you think, why? |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 28522322 Portugal 11/26/2012 04:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "According to a New York Times article on the subject, there is much more skepticism of global warming among meteorologists (such as Bastardi) than among climate scientists. Such skepticism appears to be widespread among TV forecasters, about half of whom have a degree in meteorology. A study released on Monday by researchers at George Mason University and the University of Texas at Austin found that only about half of the 571 television weathercasters surveyed believed that global warming was occurring and fewer than a third believed that climate change was “caused mostly by human activities." [link to en.wikipedia.org] What do you think, why? i think more and more data shows cooling, not a warming |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 28533978 Russia 11/26/2012 04:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "According to a New York Times article on the subject, there is much more skepticism of global warming among meteorologists (such as Bastardi) than among climate scientists. Such skepticism appears to be widespread among TV forecasters, about half of whom have a degree in meteorology. A study released on Monday by researchers at George Mason University and the University of Texas at Austin found that only about half of the 571 television weathercasters surveyed believed that global warming was occurring and fewer than a third believed that climate change was “caused mostly by human activities." [link to en.wikipedia.org] What do you think, why? i think more and more data shows cooling, not a warming I think that 100% is not exactly one answer. Personally, I believe in another: constantly doubts in serious scince researches is a necessary part of any TV shows, and TV forecasters there can not be an exception |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 28567987 Portugal 11/27/2012 08:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Joe Bastardi‏@BigJoeBastardi Record Snowfall in Regina, Saskatchewan [link to iceagenow.info] … |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 28563228 Russia 11/27/2012 09:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Russian ice map: [link to www.aari.ru] Quoting: Denis_469 You mean it shows normal conditions ? Without difference "second year"(last year after summer), "third year" (etc.) ice? Simply "old" ? |
Denis_469 User ID: 9756824 Russia 11/27/2012 09:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Russian ice map: [link to www.aari.ru] Quoting: Denis_469 You mean it shows normal conditions ? Without difference "second year"(last year after summer), "third year" (etc.) ice? Simply "old" ? Yes, it is normal condition. Old is old. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 28563228 Russia 11/27/2012 10:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Russian ice map: [link to www.aari.ru] Quoting: Denis_469 You mean it shows normal conditions ? Without difference "second year"(last year after summer), "third year" (etc.) ice? Simply "old" ? Yes, it is normal condition. Old is old. Well then best regards to the brave submariners from AARI |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 927602 United States 11/27/2012 11:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "According to a New York Times article on the subject, there is much more skepticism of global warming among meteorologists (such as Bastardi) than among climate scientists. Such skepticism appears to be widespread among TV forecasters, about half of whom have a degree in meteorology. A study released on Monday by researchers at George Mason University and the University of Texas at Austin found that only about half of the 571 television weathercasters surveyed believed that global warming was occurring and fewer than a third believed that climate change was “caused mostly by human activities." [link to en.wikipedia.org] What do you think, why? It's caused by related, but insufficient knowledge and understanding. Some people, ones that fall in about the 20% percentile in knowledge on a given subject, almost any subject, and have certain personality traits, such as high opinion of their ability to do things, tends to overestimate their skill badly. To clarify that, some people who suck honestly and truly think their very good at things, even when they aren't. That's why this happens. Weather people, geologists and engineers tend to think they understand the climate data, often without actually having done more that cursory study on the topic, so those fields tend to have a high preponderance of people that dismiss the scientific data, due to incomplete and incorrect understanding of the topic. In general, in any given field, you can trust what the experts say as a whole. If you aren't personally ready to do some real study on any given field (and who is? I don't have time for most areas of intellectual discovery myself! We all specialized at times, which is fine.) Then it's best to put most of your attention into people actually doing the study themselves. Do you trust a medical doctor with your health matters, or do you go to a smart geologist and use his information based on a few articles he read once off the internet? Do you go to a dentist, who specializes in caring for teeth, or a barber, when you have a toothache? If you find yourself trying to make excuses as to why you should disregard the expert opinion of the pro's, chances are really good that you simply want to have those findings to not be true! Which is normal in a case like this. We've been given a death sentence, so many will go into denial for a long time. But, to answer your question, that's why those people have problems with the data. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 23182389 United States 11/27/2012 11:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "According to a New York Times article on the subject, there is much more skepticism of global warming among meteorologists (such as Bastardi) than among climate scientists. Such skepticism appears to be widespread among TV forecasters, about half of whom have a degree in meteorology. A study released on Monday by researchers at George Mason University and the University of Texas at Austin found that only about half of the 571 television weathercasters surveyed believed that global warming was occurring and fewer than a third believed that climate change was “caused mostly by human activities." [link to en.wikipedia.org] What do you think, why? It's caused by related, but insufficient knowledge and understanding. Some people, ones that fall in about the 20% percentile in knowledge on a given subject, almost any subject, and have certain personality traits, such as high opinion of their ability to do things, tends to overestimate their skill badly. To clarify that, some people who suck honestly and truly think their very good at things, even when they aren't. That's why this happens. Weather people, geologists and engineers tend to think they understand the climate data, often without actually having done more that cursory study on the topic, so those fields tend to have a high preponderance of people that dismiss the scientific data, due to incomplete and incorrect understanding of the topic. In general, in any given field, you can trust what the experts say as a whole. If you aren't personally ready to do some real study on any given field (and who is? I don't have time for most areas of intellectual discovery myself! We all specialized at times, which is fine.) Then it's best to put most of your attention into people actually doing the study themselves. Do you trust a medical doctor with your health matters, or do you go to a smart geologist and use his information based on a few articles he read once off the internet? Do you go to a dentist, who specializes in caring for teeth, or a barber, when you have a toothache? If you find yourself trying to make excuses as to why you should disregard the expert opinion of the pro's, chances are really good that you simply want to have those findings to not be true! Which is normal in a case like this. We've been given a death sentence, so many will go into denial for a long time. But, to answer your question, that's why those people have problems with the data. :Bullshit33: You don't need a degree to know that global warming and others are scam or outdated. [link to burtrutan.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 28581330 Russia 11/27/2012 11:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "According to a New York Times article on the subject, there is much more skepticism of global warming among meteorologists (such as Bastardi) than among climate scientists. Such skepticism appears to be widespread among TV forecasters, about half of whom have a degree in meteorology. A study released on Monday by researchers at George Mason University and the University of Texas at Austin found that only about half of the 571 television weathercasters surveyed believed that global warming was occurring and fewer than a third believed that climate change was “caused mostly by human activities." [link to en.wikipedia.org] What do you think, why? It's caused by related, but insufficient knowledge and understanding. Some people, ones that fall in about the 20% percentile in knowledge on a given subject, almost any subject, and have certain personality traits, such as high opinion of their ability to do things, tends to overestimate their skill badly. To clarify that, some people who suck honestly and truly think their very good at things, even when they aren't. That's why this happens. Weather people, geologists and engineers tend to think they understand the climate data, often without actually having done more that cursory study on the topic, so those fields tend to have a high preponderance of people that dismiss the scientific data, due to incomplete and incorrect understanding of the topic. In general, in any given field, you can trust what the experts say as a whole. If you aren't personally ready to do some real study on any given field (and who is? I don't have time for most areas of intellectual discovery myself! We all specialized at times, which is fine.) Then it's best to put most of your attention into people actually doing the study themselves. Do you trust a medical doctor with your health matters, or do you go to a smart geologist and use his information based on a few articles he read once off the internet? Do you go to a dentist, who specializes in caring for teeth, or a barber, when you have a toothache? If you find yourself trying to make excuses as to why you should disregard the expert opinion of the pro's, chances are really good that you simply want to have those findings to not be true! Which is normal in a case like this. We've been given a death sentence, so many will go into denial for a long time. But, to answer your question, that's why those people have problems with the data. Just that I think, meant when Luis was asked |
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*Evan* User ID: 28152425 United States 11/27/2012 05:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I do not believe in "Man Made Climate Change" but I do believe in "Climate Change" I think a lot of people have a lot to gain by blaming humans and CO2. I do however think there are cycles, we did start warming. I think we did have a period of "Global Warming" the stats show this to be true. Then as the atmosphere warmed, ice melted, the ice that melted ran into the oceans. The oceans have a huge impact on our climate, so with all this added frigid water from the ice melting, it is now causing a cooling effect. |
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