Is Telepathy Occult?

a bunch of woo woo theory's

ESP, Occult, Religion, including witchcraft I believe are all related in that they all deal with the mind, beliefs, power of suggestion and so on.

as far as telepathy is concerned, if it becomes unusable or abused or if it becomes to intense, it may be like not being able to think with out every body listening,


some one born with this ability and never trained unaware and/or abused by others may develops into a mental problem. a type of telepathic neurosis, in that he may use his telepathy as a neurotic means of dealing with his environment.

a classic case may be what is called a scape-goat the whole family may have problems that need help but the scapegoat is the only one who is identified as the problem, who may be an empath some one who may feel the emotions of others so intensely that he takes them on for the family and cannot determine which emotions are his and which are somebody Else's. the members of the family may have learned (sometimes subconsciously) that they can get rid of their emotional problems by giving them to the scape-goat/empath


and still ESP may be or become a delusion to raise ones low self esteem, or to create a social life where their is none.

If I had a choice I would avoid it like the Black Plague. Government and giant corporations have many secrets that would be at risk it their where such thing as telepathy and if telepathy fell into the wrong hands a person could bring both government and giant corporations to their knees with all the secrets extracted from individuals. and any body with a lick of common sense would tell you they will not go down quietly, and would cause more trouble then its worth

this is why its not real

just some woo woo theory's from

KSTYX Radio transmitting to you from the depth of Hell, wear a sweater out their boys and girls cuz I know its getting cold down here

I hope I answered your question.

I conclude by the deafening silence to my question that there is no scientific study available that shows telepathy exists. As I suspected,just a bunch of bullshitting delusionals getting high off of mass hysteria and popycock.

I got a question
how does a telepathic deal with a dishonest world, where every body is trying to exploit the abilities of the telepathic for their own personal gain with no regard for the individuals health physical or psychological, only to find out that the individual is, will, and has, resisted their every attempt and after spending large amounts of money trying to exploit the individual, have lost their ass in money and savings and have been exposed to their sponsors as fraud, and are looking for funding to further their immoral, irrational, illogical, and illegal research IE they took a gamble and are not willing to except their losses, toss more good money after bad and make a bad situation worse

hypothetical speaking of course

oh wait a minute just tell the individual he is crazy and their is no such thing as ESP and try to find a way to continue the research behind the individuals back so he does not have to be paid (greedy bastards)

HOW IS THAT FOR A DELUSIONAL CONSPIRACY

RANKS PRETTY HIGH ON THE NUT CASE SCALE

""Third time of asking.

I realise it's against the 'rules' here to have an attention span greater than a gnat but will somebody please post a link to a real scientific study (not second or third hand) that shows telepathy is a real phenomena.

Without that proof all your conjectures are a house of cards left out in the rain.""


Telepathy is just like thinking. If a scientist tries to 'see' a telepathic signal, they will just see a brain signal.
There is evidence of telepathy, and it has been tested. But there is no way of measuring it.

its science........not occult
its can be done with an understanding of quantum science

You have people who have experienced this "telepathy" in the company of the Visitors,who have brains evolved more to this faculty.
Experincers are not good enough testimony?
In my own case,I noted that there were different levels of intensity. One example was voicing my own words before they even had a chance to be ready to be spoken.They bypassed the speech center.

Saying what I wanted to say before I was ready to say it was most annoying,and I asked them to stop it,and give me time to answer at my own speed.

OCCULT means "hideen" we have an old (1850)almanac referring to stars occulting,meaning moving into the moon's shadow to determine the time and day based on common astronomical and navigational science.You could reference time/date worldwide..(as opposed to chuch bells)

Pathfinder wrote:

"Telepathy is just like thinking. If a scientist tries to 'see' a telepathic signal, they will just see a brain signal.
There is evidence of telepathy, and it has been tested. But there is no way of measuring it."

I take it that the answer to my question is a No then?

Without links to these tests and the 'evidence' you are asking me to take telepathy as a given on faith alone.

I can think too and I think telepathy is a figment of overactive imaginations and the rest is just hocus. My analysis (without proof or back up) is as valid as yours at the moment. The difference is, I am willing to be proven wrong.

you either believe it exists or you don't. Do skeptics come in these threads looking for proof or to bother the people who do believe? I've read about studies on telepathy and if you were so interested in it being proven for you, you would find the studies and read them yourself. It sounds more like you are here to belittle people than look for the truth. Search for scientific studies on telepathy. How hard is it really?

stgeorge wrote:

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Experincers are not good enough testimony?
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No, unfortunately they are not. Someone can believe they are telepathic but it does not make it a real phenomena. It may ~be~ real but testimony is not reliable as a visit to any Court will tell you. At best all you get is a balance of probability and so far the jury hasn't even been sworn in.

We have become so spritualy (with a small 's') bereft people desperately want to believe there is 'SOMETHING OUT THERE'. Whether it's LGM, God, gods, superior beings in lizzard skins, angels, The Force or even an Ebil Guberrmint (Ok the last might be true ) but that doesn't make them fact.

anon:

Yes I am skeptical and anything I have seen has been inconclusive but I am willing to investigate real studies. What I don't have time to do is a google search though thousands of coook woowoo websites to find even a shred of hard evidence.

So here's a challenge to all you adepts. I live in the UK - tell me the regitration # or any other details of my car. It's quite high in my mind today as I've had an attempted break-in to the vehicle and I'm wondering how I can better secure it.

Empty speculative answers so far.
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Hey, Tinkerbell, ever hear of
Allan Kardec?
[link to www.allan-kardec.info]

A big deal in Brazil...

There are over a million and a half Spiritists or Kardecists who follow the doctrines of the 19th century French psychic researcher, Allan Kardec
[link to www.brasembottawa.org]

""We have become so spritualy (with a small 's') bereft people desperately want to believe there is 'SOMETHING OUT THERE'. Whether it's LGM, God, gods, superior beings in lizzard skins, angels, The Force or even an Ebil""


I think this is true, to a degree.

There are, however, things that cannot be explained away by science.

You cannot judge these things to be untrue until you experience them. I suppose you wont bother. Perhaps you fear the unknown, or don’t like to think that some things are out of your control/conception. This is an Atheist state of mind.

Emperor:

All the links on that site return "Page not found"

I thought an adept should've known that.

Not a very auspicious start.

Pathfinder:

I don't judge them to be untrue, meerly that they are unproven.

Meanwhile I have to go work on my car so just leave some detail about it that's beyond the realm of guesswork.

All the links on that site return "Page not found"
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Try wikipedia

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Our favorite housemouse debunker-spilunker has a thing for "rise-table-rise"

Must be scientifical, eh?

There once was a chick with a job
Who haunted the forums in glob
she hustled for science
a matter of finance
On the weekends she spoke to a blob

Now for my take on it all

We think which is weird and highly improbable in this universe of assorted stuff.

What is thinking, imagining, perception?

Channeling?
Telepathy?
Something unexplainable?

Occult?

YEAH!

Emperor:

Read the Wipi link. Anything more up to date like a recent study that proves any of those 'phenomena' are real?

I'm not interested in playing intellectual games or circular reasoning. Call me any name you wish if it pleases you but so far no one has had the courage to put up any convincing evidence. It's all heresay and conjecture.

For the record I would actually like telepathy to exist. It would be cool to communicate over distance without relying on electronics and all the money grubbing meddle-men so the challenge is still up for grabs. One convincing detail about my car and I'll be the first to acknowlege it and take things further.

Can't say fairer than that.

Read the Wipi link. Anything more up to date like a recent study that proves any of those 'phenomena' are real?
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That was not posted as evidence, rather in commentary toward a specific debunker.

Proof of telepathy?

I'd think this is more a matter of experience.

Has something like telepathy ocurred in our lives?

I declare so in my life, especially in subtle distant communication with my children.

Occult to me means hidden or mysterious.

For myself I'll get telepathic hits in my dreams.

telepathy is natural

Spiritists...so what. They believe in reincarnation and spirits but what else to they know.They do not delve into it like I do.Reincarnation may not always mean progression.
And having these Elementals or non-human spirits involved with me complicates things greatly. Not being an invidividual so much as a group.
Blavatsky mentioned them I think.Still trying to find all her works,not just Theosophy.
Another believer in Tinkerbell for Kenton there.

Indy wrote:
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"telepathy is natural"

So, what's my car license # or any other details?

Show me you can target your thoughts and read my mind.

"Indy wrote:telepathy is natural"

... it sure has done well by me (well, and me best bud, me doggie Joey, too) and so far anyways, lol.

w/luv,
just me

KY6, if turned way up,the telepathy or electronic tampering I experienced would mean NO thought is unknown to the receiver. Most would have trouble with it,every one of your darkest secrets and dreams known to all.
If you ever met a Visitor it could read your mind as you challenge here,and you would NOT like it!
They can go steps futher and rearrange or program your mind as well.Didn't you read any accounts on abductions??

Indy wrote:
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"telepathy is natural"

So, what's my car license # or any other details?

Show me you can target your thoughts and read my mind.


ha ha, You want an instant attempt at telepathy?You want me to perform for you? Go see a David Copperfield show :)
Would you like the winning lottery numbers too? :)

telepathy proof is anecdotal, but this doesn`t make it invalid, just not proven yet by science.

Hi gooderboy

pets are great at 'communicating '

Telepathy is one facet of the diamond called psychic. Psychic means of the soul.

According to dictionary,

Etymology: Greek psychikos of the soul, from psychE soul

So being part of the soul means that it is part of yourself since we all have souls.

I myself can transmit better than I can receive. According to a person that does past life readings I was part of a transmit/receiving team in Atlantis and that explains why I transmit better according to her. My little brother and I used to sit and amaze our nieces and nephews sending messages back and forth to each other. We would tell them what we were thinking in one room and then they would go to the room he was in and he would tell them what the thought was. It was a lot of fun.

If you start trying to accomplish this practice a little at a time. Anytime that you are trying to do something "physchically" do it for short periods of time to start with. My first wife and I used to practice rolling dice and matching them. At first we could do one die and match for about five minutes. By the time we quit (she started getting scared of it for some reason) we could match two dice for about 15 minutes at a time. Although we did not match every time we matched well over 75% of the time.

So give it a whirl I don't think you will burn in hell for it because it is a natural event. It only seems strange because most of the people in this world have been programmed to believe it is.

TELEPATHY
When two or more people communicate without using the normal senses
IE knowing what card you’re looking at.

CLAIRVOYANCE
The power to describe objects or events outside the range of one’s senses what no one else could possibly know.
IE knowing what card you are about to pick

PRECOGNITION
Having knowledge of events that have not yet happened.

PSYCHOKINESIS
The power to move object without physically touching them

all types of ESP
you tell me are they occult related.

their seems no right or wrong answer it just depends on what you believe