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VZ-58 vs AK-47

 
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11/26/2012 07:51 PM
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Re: VZ-58 vs AK-47
if you compare it to the riveted akm variants we see most in the states, the vz is a winner. if you compare it to a milled receiver (real) ak, the ak is at least it's equal. less moving parts, much simpler design, greater spares and accessory availability makes the "real" variant ak the better choice. but i'm an sks fan, so what do i know?
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the weight difference as compared to milled AK is tremendous
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The VZ is a striker fired system which is way less complicated than your typical hammer system.

Also the bolt locks back after the last round(no dead man click) HUGE HUGE ADVANTAGE WITH ANY COMBAT ARMS
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11/26/2012 08:04 PM
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if you compare it to the riveted akm variants we see most in the states, the vz is a winner. if you compare it to a milled receiver (real) ak, the ak is at least it's equal. less moving parts, much simpler design, greater spares and accessory availability makes the "real" variant ak the better choice. but i'm an sks fan, so what do i know?
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the weight difference as compared to milled AK is tremendous
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if weight is a problem for you, then by all means go for the czech. pretty much a matter of preference. the ak is a tractor, built for reliable use over long lengths of time in the worst of conditions. they have proven themselves from the arctic to the hottest jungles. the semi fire control group is the oldest, most perfected system in the world (john moses browning designed). simple, safe, rugged, reliable. lots of gee whiz has come and gone, the ak combines all the "old reliables" in a single package. it's the choice for arming cavemen for a reason
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11/26/2012 08:21 PM
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Re: VZ-58 vs AK-47
if you compare it to the riveted akm variants we see most in the states, the vz is a winner. if you compare it to a milled receiver (real) ak, the ak is at least it's equal. less moving parts, much simpler design, greater spares and accessory availability makes the "real" variant ak the better choice. but i'm an sks fan, so what do i know?
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the weight difference as compared to milled AK is tremendous
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if weight is a problem for you, then by all means go for the czech. pretty much a matter of preference. the ak is a tractor, built for reliable use over long lengths of time in the worst of conditions. they have proven themselves from the arctic to the hottest jungles. the semi fire control group is the oldest, most perfected system in the world (john moses browning designed). simple, safe, rugged, reliable. lots of gee whiz has come and gone, the ak combines all the "old reliables" in a single package. it's the choice for arming cavemen for a reason
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at this point in time I'm not a cavemen and probably neither are you
weight is always a problem don't kid yourself
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11/26/2012 08:27 PM
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Re: VZ-58 vs AK-47
having shot both I pronounce VZ-58 to be superior to AK-47 in pretty much every respect

mag availability notwithstanding

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OP...if you need VZ 58 mags, PM me.
"Don't let the sword fall asleep in your hand."
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Re: VZ-58 vs AK-47
The VZ does break down just as easy as the AK, Also it's short stroke piston, and the ergo's are far better than the AK.

The VZ is a milled receiver and not stamped and its still lighter.

There is not one point that the AK beats the VZ.

Vz vs M4 is more of a battle.
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Did you watch the video? More internal parts with the VZ 58. You're kinda speaking out your Canadian ass...

Also, the VEPR AK is machine milled and hammer-forged (I'm guessing from your country, you're on the stupid end of gun knowledge, especially noting the M4 as a battle rifle - it's not, it's an assault rifle with a 50 year track record of getting our troops killed from being ineffective on the battle front). Also, does the VZ 58 beat on price-point? Because from the CZ website, those were going for $800 each. Does that beat the AK prices? Does the lack of VZ accessories beat the AK as well? Do blanket statements keep you warm up there in Canada?
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