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Israel's most dangerous hawk tipped as new defence chief

 
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Lieberman, a former nightclub bouncer, was found guilty in 2001 of beating a 12-year-old boy and fined by an Israeli court. He was being investigated for multimillion-dollar fraud and money laundering. No problem. He seems quite popular in Israel.
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So he wooped an ass of some big-mouth out-of-control wannabe -- there are enough of those among both Israelis and Palestinians...

As I told you, the "multi-million dollar fraud" thing is classic Leftist blackmail --- there is NO evidence or merit, which is why it's being dragged on for, what, 15 years? LOL, get a clue about Israeli politics.

It should be a clue to you: unlike most politicians who have multi-million dollar condos in down-town Tel Aviv and big assets overseas....Avigdor Lieberman lives very MODESTLY on a small settlement in the West Bank, where he is also in danger of being killed by terrorists. You think if he was the selfish corrupt monster that Left-wing is desperately trying to portray him as, he would live there for more than 2 minutes before moving on to greener pastures?????? Use you head, dummy!


Funny, you make that quip about Israelis political preferences.... When infact Vladimir Putin is a mass-murderer/date-rapist who's responsible for 100,000 deaths in Chechnya and elsewhere, including dozens of dissidents, journalists. His unofficial wealth is estimated to be upward of 50 Billion with a 'B' in Swiss, Cyprus and other off-shore accounts & assets.

Moreover, almost every Arab/Muslim leader in history was a blood-thristy uber-thug. Bashar Assad and Mohammad Morsi are just laterst incarnation.

And yet somehow it's Avigdor Lieberman and Israeli voters who are the "BAD" guys....... Riiiiiight.


**cue world's quickest eye-roll**
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i kinda like Avigdor Lieberman. Minister of Defence, though? Doesn't seem like a brilliant idea.
 Quoting: Swinburnian


Ironicslly, I don't even like him that much. While I personally naturally relate to his tough-guy persona, I do think his boorish demeanor & poor English limit him greatly as a Foreign Minister.

And as mentioned, as Defense Minster, he's simply NOT qualified. Israeli Defense Minster is a VERY critical job, only comparable to being Defense Minister in South Korea. Say what you will about Ehud Barak, but once you get past his whole "Washington's Puppet" thing, Barak at least had the bonafides and intellectual capacity to hold the job.

I just don't see it with Lieberman -- he's much better suited to be a Kings-maker in Knesset, but obviously his ego wants a more public role.

The reason I defend him in this thread is the reason why I speak out about Israel in general: because there is SO MUCH vile, cynical (Muslin-Maxist oil-funded) PROPAGANDA floating out there aboutt Jews & Israel... that's it's 1930's all over again -- but with a nuclear twist!

Someone has to speak up and set the record straight.
 Quoting: ASV 759880


I was particularly irked at all the criticism he got for suggesting that in a two-state future, some parts of Judaea and Samaria (with their Jewish inhabitants) should be transferred to Israel and some parts of Israel (with their Arab inhabitants)should be transferred to the new Arab state. He was made out to be some sort of Nazi, but has any successful division of territory between two peoples ever worked without some similar arrangement?
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11/27/2012 05:58 PM
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So he wooped an ass of some big-mouth out-of-control wannabe -- there are enough of those among both Israelis and Palestinians...

As I told you, the "multi-million dollar fraud" thing is classic Leftist blackmail --- there is NO evidence or merit, which is why it's being dragged on for, what, 15 years? LOL, get a clue about Israeli politics.

It should be a clue to you: unlike most politicians who have multi-million dollar condos in down-town Tel Aviv and big assets overseas....Avigdor Lieberman lives very MODESTLY on a small settlement in the West Bank, where he is also in danger of being killed by terrorists. You think if he was the selfish corrupt monster that Left-wing is desperately trying to portray him as, he would live there for more than 2 minutes before moving on to greener pastures?????? Use you head, dummy!


Funny, you make that quip about Israelis political preferences.... When infact Vladimir Putin is a mass-murderer/date-rapist who's responsible for 100,000 deaths in Chechnya and elsewhere, including dozens of dissidents, journalists. His unofficial wealth is estimated to be upward of 50 Billion with a 'B' in Swiss, Cyprus and other off-shore accounts & assets.

Moreover, almost every Arab/Muslim leader in history was a blood-thristy uber-thug. Bashar Assad and Mohammad Morsi are just laterst incarnation.

And yet somehow it's Avigdor Lieberman and Israeli voters who are the "BAD" guys....... Riiiiiight.


**cue world's quickest eye-roll**
 Quoting: AsV 759880


i kinda like Avigdor Lieberman. Minister of Defence, though? Doesn't seem like a brilliant idea.
 Quoting: Swinburnian


Ironicslly, I don't even like him that much. While I personally naturally relate to his tough-guy persona, I do think his boorish demeanor & poor English limit him greatly as a Foreign Minister.

And as mentioned, as Defense Minster, he's simply NOT qualified. Israeli Defense Minster is a VERY critical job, only comparable to being Defense Minister in South Korea. Say what you will about Ehud Barak, but once you get past his whole "Washington's Puppet" thing, Barak at least had the bonafides and intellectual capacity to hold the job.

I just don't see it with Lieberman -- he's much better suited to be a Kings-maker in Knesset, but obviously his ego wants a more public role.

The reason I defend him in this thread is the reason why I speak out about Israel in general: because there is SO MUCH vile, cynical (Muslin-Maxist oil-funded) PROPAGANDA floating out there aboutt Jews & Israel... that's it's 1930's all over again -- but with a nuclear twist!

Someone has to speak up and set the record straight.
 Quoting: ASV 759880


I was particularly irked at all the criticism he got for suggesting that in a two-state future, some parts of Judaea and Samaria (with their Jewish inhabitants) should be transferred to Israel and some parts of Israel (with their Arab inhabitants)should be transferred to the new Arab state. He was made out to be some sort of Nazi, but has any successful division of territory between two peoples ever worked without some similar arrangement?
 Quoting: Swinburnian


It's indeed bizarre and pathetic, but that's reality of the Left. At times, it becomes truly Orwellian.

It doesn't matter that both Lieberman and Netanyahu are supporters of the 2-state solution ----> the elites in Tel Aviv or Washington DC or Brussels will NOT accept anyone who doesn't toe their party line --- or rather, the "party line" of those in the shadows who write their checks (cough Saudi Arabia, Qatar, UAE, Venezuela cough)

I mean, look at the old historical example: Kahane. He all about defending Jewish civilians against almost constant terror attacks & bullying. Even his "transfer" of Arabs was to be on VOLUNTARY basis -- i.e by buying them out, which is the ONLY viable long-term solution for Israel. Not all Arabs will agree, and that's their right as long as they don't commit violence against Jews.

And what happened? He was a bone in the throat of both Right- and Left-wing ruling elites. So the man was likely murdered by a joint CIA-Mossad operation using an classic Egyptian patsy -- all because he stood in the way of Shimon Peres-Bush Sr secret agreement that would eventually turn into Oslo Accords....

Kahane's children and Rehavam "Ghandi" Za'evi were also murdered some time later under very suspicious circumstances --> funny how, say, Ehud Olmert, Ehud Barak and Shimon Peres have never been targeted in such a way.

Anyway back to Lieberman. Really, how extreme is he? Compared to Hamas, Islamic Jihad, PRC, PFLP, or PLO's "Al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigade" wing or various Sinai Bedouin & Salafist groups. How is extreme is Lieberman when compared to Putin, Qaddafi, Mubarak, Iranian Ayatollahs, Assad the father or the son? Saddam Hussrein? Saudi King Abdullah? Jordanian King Abdullah -- you know, the one who murdered 10,000+ Palestinians on Black Sunday like it was a walk in the park?

Hell, let's look at the Moderate Darlings of the Enlightened West who lead Palestinian Authority (on Israeli taxpayers' backs, btw):

-Yassir Arafat: the Original-Gansta of International terrorism & an AIDS-riddled Pedophile. His uncle, Haj Amin al-Husseini, was one of Histler's best friends & the architect of the Holocaust. Also incited several massacres of unarmed Jews in British Manadate palestine, =most notably in Hebron and Jerusalem.....

Well, Arafat at the urging of all-powerful KGB boss Yuri Andropov essentially FABRICATED a whole new people called "palestinians" in order to create an artifical pretext to wage geo-political war on the Jews and their patron, the US/NATO. PLO was created in 1964 -- that is, 3 years before the "occupation of '67", LOL funny how that works. Anyway, Arafat's master-terrorist Greatest Hits list is truly unmatched by any Islamist since. Even during post-Oslo days, while he smiled for idiotic PC Western journalists and told them what they wanted to hear in broken English ----> in Arabic he spear-headed the most horrific war on civilians the world has ever seen (2nd Intifada with its shootings & suicide bombings of buses, restaurants, discos, synagogues, kindergardens, even a nursing home)

--Mahmoud Abbas: Oh, he's "only" written a dissertation in Holocaust Denial, and bank-rolled the 1972 Olympic Athletes Massacre in Munich. He "only" is a member of PLO that much like the ostensibly more religious Hamas, DENIES the write of Jews to live or exist as a nation. He "only" makes half-assed speeches kinda sorta recogizing Israel in English, while in Arabic much like Aeafat he tells Palestinians that "don't worry, I didn't really mean that, haha!"..... Abbas school carricula "only" consists of the most vile, inciting propagandistic trash against the Jews that even Goebbels would be proud of.

And of course Abbas has just tore up the Oslo accords by applying to UN inilaterally, for the 150th time proving that signing any agreement/treaty with Arabs or Muslims is a WORTHLESS endeavor.


But yeah...um.... Avigdor Lieberman is the "extremist" here. I mean, he speaks Russian, and having lived under the yoke of Communism in Moldova in his youth, he ISN'T easily brain-washed by the sweet siron song of the Left..... The temerity, the gall, the balls, how dare he defy the divine degree of Tel Aviv, Washington DC and Brussels elites!!! BURN HER, i mean BURN HIM, BURN HIMMMM!!!!


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If Lieberman is extreme, I would love see what they call Ben-Ari or Moshe Feiglin.
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i kinda like Avigdor Lieberman. Minister of Defence, though? Doesn't seem like a brilliant idea.
 Quoting: Swinburnian


Ironicslly, I don't even like him that much. While I personally naturally relate to his tough-guy persona, I do think his boorish demeanor & poor English limit him greatly as a Foreign Minister.

And as mentioned, as Defense Minster, he's simply NOT qualified. Israeli Defense Minster is a VERY critical job, only comparable to being Defense Minister in South Korea. Say what you will about Ehud Barak, but once you get past his whole "Washington's Puppet" thing, Barak at least had the bonafides and intellectual capacity to hold the job.

I just don't see it with Lieberman -- he's much better suited to be a Kings-maker in Knesset, but obviously his ego wants a more public role.

The reason I defend him in this thread is the reason why I speak out about Israel in general: because there is SO MUCH vile, cynical (Muslin-Maxist oil-funded) PROPAGANDA floating out there aboutt Jews & Israel... that's it's 1930's all over again -- but with a nuclear twist!

Someone has to speak up and set the record straight.
 Quoting: ASV 759880


I was particularly irked at all the criticism he got for suggesting that in a two-state future, some parts of Judaea and Samaria (with their Jewish inhabitants) should be transferred to Israel and some parts of Israel (with their Arab inhabitants)should be transferred to the new Arab state. He was made out to be some sort of Nazi, but has any successful division of territory between two peoples ever worked without some similar arrangement?
 Quoting: Swinburnian


It's indeed bizarre and pathetic, but that's reality of the Left. At times, it becomes truly Orwellian.

It doesn't matter that both Lieberman and Netanyahu are supporters of the 2-state solution ----> the elites in Tel Aviv or Washington DC or Brussels will NOT accept anyone who doesn't toe their party line --- or rather, the "party line" of those in the shadows who write their checks (cough Saudi Arabia, Qatar, UAE, Venezuela cough)

I mean, look at the old historical example: Kahane. He was all about defending Jewish civilians against almost constant terror attacks & bullying. Even his "transfer" of Arabs was to be on VOLUNTARY basis -- i.e by buying them out, which is the ONLY viable long-term solution for Israel. Not all Arabs will agree, and that's their right as long as they don't commit violence against Jews.

And what happened? He was a bone in the throat of both Right- and Left-wing ruling elites. So the man was likely murdered by a joint CIA-Mossad operation using a classic Egyptian patsy to pull the trigger -- all because he stood in the way of Shimon Peres-Bush Sr secret agreement that would eventually turn into Oslo Accords....

Kahane's children and Rehavam "Ghandi" Za'evi were also murdered some time later under very suspicious circumstances --> funny how, say, Ehud Olmert, Ehud Barak and Shimon Peres have never been targeted in such a way.

Anyway back to Lieberman. Really, how extreme is he? Compared to Hamas, Islamic Jihad, PRC, PFLP, or PLO's "Al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigade" wing or the various Sinai Bedouin & Salafist groups. How is extreme is Lieberman when compared to Putin, Qaddafi, Mubarak, Iranian Ayatollahs, Assad the father or the son? Saddam Hussein? Saudi King Abdullah? Or Jordanian King Abdullah -- you know, the one who murdered 10,000+ Palestinians on Black Sunday like it was a walk in the park?

Hell, let's look at the Moderate Darlings of the Enlightened West who lead Palestinian Authority (on Israeli taxpayers' backs, btw):

-Yassir Arafat: the Original-Gansta of International terrorism & an AIDS-riddled Pedophile. His uncle, Haj Amin al-Husseini, was one of Hitler's best friends & the architect of the Holocaust. Also incited several massacres of unarmed Jews in British Manadate palestine, =most notably in Hebron and Jerusalem.....

Well, Arafat at the urging of all-powerful KGB boss Yuri Andropov essentially FABRICATED a whole new people called "palestinians" in order to create an artifical pretext to wage geo-political war on the Jews and their patron, the US/NATO. PLO was created in 1964 -- that is, 3 years before the "Ooccupation of 1967", LOL funny how that works. Anyway, Arafat's master-terrorist Greatest Hits list is truly unmatched by any Islamist since. Even during post-Oslo days, while he smiled for idiotic PC Western journalists and told them what they wanted to hear in broken English ----> in Arabic he spear-headed the most horrific war on civilians the world has ever seen (2nd Intifada with its shootings & suicide bombings of buses, restaurants, discos, synagogues, kindergardens, even a nursing home)

--Mahmoud Abbas: Oh, he's "only" written a dissertation in Holocaust Denial, and bank-rolled the 1972 Olympic Athletes Massacre in Munich. He "only" is a member of PLO that much like the ostensibly more religious Hamas, DENIES the write of Jews to live or exist as a nation. He "only" makes half-assed speeches kinda sorta recogizing Israel in English, while in Arabic much like Aeafat he tells Palestinians that "don't worry, I didn't really mean that, haha!"..... Abbas school carricula "only" consists of the most vile, inciting propagandistic trash against the Jews that even Goebbels would be proud of.

And of course Abbas has just tore up the Oslo accords by applying to UN unilaterally, for the 150th time proving that signing any agreement/treaty with Arabs or Muslims is a WORTHLESS endeavor.


But yeah...um.... Avigdor Lieberman is the "extremist" here. I mean, he speaks Russian, and having lived under the yoke of Communism in Moldova in his youth, he ISN'T easily brain-washed by the sweet siren song of the Left..... The temerity, the gall, the balls, how dare he defy the divine degree of Tel Aviv, Washington DC and Brussels elites!!! BURN HER, i mean BURN HIM, BURN HIMMMM!!!!


lulz
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Oh what's the this? Looks like the 13 year frivolous suit against Lieberman is being dropped afterall --- not just for lack of evidence but because the State's key witness against Lieberman was going to testify IN FAVOUR of Lieberman. Ooops, LOL.

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