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Gun BAN APPROVED by UN & Signed by Obama

 
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you can tell someone's a shill when they say they are a marine, and call a mag a clip. they would beat you down in boot camp for doing that.
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Any firearms legislation MUST be approved by congress. No crazy gun bans are going to make it through the House.

Don't panic. Doom off.
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Congress?


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Treaties need to be ratified by the senate, not the house. The only good news is that most democrats don't want to be seen as the guy that took our guns away. Then there is the problem of the 2nd amendment. Treaties do not supersede the Constitution. King Barry might try to sell that bullshit, but it wont fly. If he gets another activist judge on Supreme Court, we're fucked.
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bsflag

That UN meeting was from sept 2.
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But, King Barry was facing a tough election at that time. He wouldn't even let Hillary sign it. He sat on this until after the election because he knew he lose if he signed away our guns. There was a lot of bad stuff he hid until after the election. We will see more of it soon.
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Obama changed the damn law where you can carry a firearm into the National Parks. Want to target practice in a National Park, no problem.

NOBODY is taking away your guns and certainly not Obama.

Your Damn taxes are lower now than under Bush too!

Fox News mislead its viewers about the election. You have to Trust But Verify with Fox News.
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The UN committee report you have linked says NO SUCH THING: it simply deals with the "illicit" (illegal) trade or export of weapons...it's not a "ban" on anything...you might want to read your own links before you "fly of the handle" and commit cyber FRAUD...oh, here's you a little gift: :bsflag: AND SALUTE !
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Read the treaty. It says that it will include all the provisions of the previous treaty. I don't know if that would actually be inforcable, but I don't want to find out.

But this treaty would stop King Barry from arming all his muslim brotherhood buddies.
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Fuck Obama. Fuck the U.N. That is all.
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Any firearms legislation MUST be approved by congress. No crazy gun bans are going to make it through the House.

Don't panic. Doom off.
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Congress?


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23578537


Treaties need to be ratified by the senate, not the house. The only good news is that most democrats don't want to be seen as the guy that took our guns away. Then there is the problem of the 2nd amendment. Treaties do not supersede the Constitution. King Barry might try to sell that bullshit, but it wont fly. If he gets another activist judge on Supreme Court, we're fucked.
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^^THIS! I tried to warn people. I could care less about Zero other than what he does behind the scenes. And two to four SCOTUS appointments this term are going to be the end game. Reid sits in the Senate just waiting to make sure it happens. I am sure the future leftwing activist justices are already in the batters box waiting.
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1. This is OP's interpretation of the speech.
2. Are govt. agencies gonna go door to door and confiscate these weapons?
3. If these weapons were bought legally, but are now deemed illegal, is the govt. going to reimburse citizens for the cost of the weapon if it is confiscated?
4. Does the govt. expect it's citizens to bring knives to a gunfight?
5. A ban on these weapons is just not going to work out well.


My final point: The second amendment was written during a time when guns were a pain in the ass to load and fire...so maybe our founding Father's would agree to a ban on semi's and fully automatic weapons.

Yes, I own weapons...I've shot every weapon the USMC has in it's arsenal...even got my name on a plaque on the M60 range in 29 palms. I don't believe that I'd need and M60 to protect my family however. Some of the weapons that are legal now are a bit overkill-so I'd agree to a ban on those.

I don't agree to a ban on handguns with clips, six shooters, or bolt action rifles.
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"so maybe our founding Father's would agree to a ban on semi's and fully automatic weapons."
Yeah and let the "other guy" have them....very rational
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Obama changed the damn law where you can carry a firearm into the National Parks. Want to target practice in a National Park, no problem.

NOBODY is taking away your guns and certainly not Obama.

Your Damn taxes are lower now than under Bush too!

Fox News mislead its viewers about the election. You have to Trust But Verify with Fox News.
 Quoting: brent pops


Bush refused to open up our National Parks to guns. Obama did it in the first 6 months
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1. This is OP's interpretation of the speech.
2. Are govt. agencies gonna go door to door and confiscate these weapons?
3. If these weapons were bought legally, but are now deemed illegal, is the govt. going to reimburse citizens for the cost of the weapon if it is confiscated?
4. Does the govt. expect it's citizens to bring knives to a gunfight?
5. A ban on these weapons is just not going to work out well.


My final point: The second amendment was written during a time when guns were a pain in the ass to load and fire...so maybe our founding Father's would agree to a ban on semi's and fully automatic weapons.

Yes, I own weapons...I've shot every weapon the USMC has in it's arsenal...even got my name on a plaque on the M60 range in 29 palms. I don't believe that I'd need and M60 to protect my family however. Some of the weapons that are legal now are a bit overkill-so I'd agree to a ban on those.

I don't agree to a ban on handguns with clips, six shooters, or bolt action rifles.
 Quoting: AFGW 21140569


"so maybe our founding Father's would agree to a ban on semi's and fully automatic weapons."
Yeah and let the "other guy" have them....very rational
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 144368


Automatic weapons are already "banned" for the most part unless you want to jump through hoops for the background check and have the scratch to pay the government to have one....so that canard is a moot point.

Why is it when anti's try and make their point they always go to the extremes and say that people like me want a belt fed automatic weapon, artillery piece, or tank?

To me, it shows their desperation and ignorance.

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Obama changed the damn law where you can carry a firearm into the National Parks. Want to target practice in a National Park, no problem.

NOBODY is taking away your guns and certainly not Obama.

Your Damn taxes are lower now than under Bush too!

Fox News mislead its viewers about the election. You have to Trust But Verify with Fox News.
 Quoting: brent pops


Bush refused to open up our National Parks to guns. Obama did it in the first 6 months
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There's a paranoid element to this whole Obama vs guns obsession. Obama hasn't done ONE thing that the Dems wanted to do on guns. wtf
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1. This is OP's interpretation of the speech.
2. Are govt. agencies gonna go door to door and confiscate these weapons?
3. If these weapons were bought legally, but are now deemed illegal, is the govt. going to reimburse citizens for the cost of the weapon if it is confiscated?
4. Does the govt. expect it's citizens to bring knives to a gunfight?
5. A ban on these weapons is just not going to work out well.


My final point: The second amendment was written during a time when guns were a pain in the ass to load and fire...so maybe our founding Father's would agree to a ban on semi's and fully automatic weapons.

Yes, I own weapons...I've shot every weapon the USMC has in it's arsenal...even got my name on a plaque on the M60 range in 29 palms. I don't believe that I'd need and M60 to protect my family however. Some of the weapons that are legal now are a bit overkill-so I'd agree to a ban on those.

I don't agree to a ban on handguns with clips, six shooters, or bolt action rifles.
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Sir you are a disgrace!!!!Shall not infringe,there is no other interpitation.
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Well be sure to tell that to a invading government/and or country, that they should be using muzzle loaders instead.
Because our 2 Amendment was written to that.
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1. This is OP's interpretation of the speech.
2. Are govt. agencies gonna go door to door and confiscate these weapons?
3. If these weapons were bought legally, but are now deemed illegal, is the govt. going to reimburse citizens for the cost of the weapon if it is confiscated?
4. Does the govt. expect it's citizens to bring knives to a gunfight?
5. A ban on these weapons is just not going to work out well.


My final point: The second amendment was written during a time when guns were a pain in the ass to load and fire...so maybe our founding Father's would agree to a ban on semi's and fully automatic weapons.

Yes, I own weapons...I've shot every weapon the USMC has in it's arsenal...even got my name on a plaque on the M60 range in 29 palms. I don't believe that I'd need and M60 to protect my family however. Some of the weapons that are legal now are a bit overkill-so I'd agree to a ban on those.

I don't agree to a ban on handguns with clips, six shooters, or bolt action rifles.
 Quoting: AFGW 21140569


Marine,

They're not called clips. There's no such thing as a CLIP you wannabe Leatherneck. They're called Magazines!
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Duh, I'm not talking to Marines...seems like I'm talking to a bunch of ID10t's. Clips are for handguns...magazines are for rifles. Wannabe Leatherneck, huh? If you'd like I could fax you my DD214. I don't have to prove shit to you anyway, the bad thing about this is that I served for you, and you're being a complete dick. Do you expect me to still call my sneakers "tenny runners" or my hat a "cover" or tell people that I need to "hit the head". I'm am a proud Gulf War Era Veteran and you need to "Lock it up!"
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Wrong again. Auto loading hand guns use magazines not clips! I think you're a bit confused there. Guns like the Mosin Nagant are top fed with STRIPPER CLIPS (which look like little leaf springs). Another example would be an SKS with a fixed Magazine. Again, top fed into a fixed magazine.

FYI, there are two reasons people are attacking your post. #1 We don't agree with you. #2 Anti-gun nuts have one thing in common, they generally don't know much about weapons and misidentify parts and common terminology. Hopefully now, you understand why people think you're full of shit?

If I were you, I wouldn't be flashing around my DD214. It makes you look silly. Brush up on some of this stuff first. You'll at least sound more credible.

Regardless, I still take issue with your premise. If you're going to make an argument regarding the 2nd Amendment, the first thing you have to do is identify the purpose of that Constitutional Right. So, I ask you this...What is the purpose of the 2nd Amendment?
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UN has no authority over me.

I DO NOT CONSENT.

I WILL NOT COMPLY.


Any questions?
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I will not comply either. Someone should start a petition
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Nothing new. It could have been so much more; a real thing; a real entity with a real vision; but the appearance is that it is unilateral dictatorship for the elite. Same old tactics; same methodologies. They didnt even bother to propagandize it; didnt bother to procure mid/lower tier 'buy in'; they have isolated everyone in the general population with their agenda they think is hidden but is clear to see by the world.

Not bothering with the formalities means they wont have assimilation. Meaning, "mandates" such as this will be met with cognitive resistance and open sarcasm.
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It never could have been anything more. Anything run by mortal humans is just pasted-together crap, or else freedom. But they got as far as they could on the "idealism" trip, without having to give much to the public.

I am amazed how soon they have to come out in the open. No doubt they have internal organizational problems, because as I noted above, they will always have organizational problems. They are just human managers, not a divine spirit.
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Obama changed the damn law where you can carry a firearm into the National Parks. Want to target practice in a National Park, no problem.

NOBODY is taking away your guns and certainly not Obama.

Your Damn taxes are lower now than under Bush too!

Fox News mislead its viewers about the election. You have to Trust But Verify with Fox News.
 Quoting: brent pops


Bush refused to open up our National Parks to guns. Obama did it in the first 6 months
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There's a paranoid element to this whole Obama vs guns obsession. Obama hasn't done ONE thing that the Dems wanted to do on guns. wtf
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But he said he would.
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LOL. American gun tards crying over losing thier toy guns. IF you dumb fk's did not keep killing each other with them then thing might be ok? Americans are so thick. Doh
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LOL. American gun tards crying over losing thier toy guns. IF you dumb fk's did not keep killing each other with them then thing might be ok? Americans are so thick. Doh
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And the Brit chimes in....

Try and listen very carefully to this. We dont have a gun problem in America, nor are "we" killing eachother. There is a criminal and subculture here that is "killing eachother".

You cant "fix" this problem by taking firearms away from people like me and other law abiding citizens...not that I expect you to understand our love of our Constitution.

You guys have your own issues in Britain...I suggest you solve your own problems first.

Speaking of which...how is London lately? Any Englishmen still there other than the elite? Hope its Sharia compliant.

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This UN treaty has absolutely nothing to do with Americans and their 2nd Amendment rights. Anybody who says otherwise is lying to you or is very very fucking stupid. All this ridiculous talk about turning in firearms, taking firearms by force, and destroying the 2nd Amendment is complete horseshit. Get a fucking grip people. Conservative gun-owners still have an incredible amount of influence in Washington. That shit would NEVER fly. It won't happen this year, next year, the year after that, or even Obama's last year in office. Stop allowing yourselves to be manipulated.
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^this. You willingly joined to earn a paycheck, fulfill some juvenile need to kill and destroy, or to naively believe like you were protecting our nation. I know many who serve, and most of the marines I know fall into these categories. ....
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Finally someone with some smarts, that's exactly why I joined that and I wasn't ready for college at 18.
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Yeah man, I almost did the same. I've always loved guns, war tech and the romanticism of it all. I turned 18 in '03, and I couldn't justify joining up with the current wars...although a large part of me wanted to. I figured I could do more good for the world by going to college and applying my trade to benefit all...boy, was I wrong!

Didn't mean to come off as bashing those who serve, only those who serve with a chip on their shoulder.
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Any firearms legislation MUST be approved by congress. No crazy gun bans are going to make it through the House.

Don't panic. Doom off.
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Congress?


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23578537


Treaties need to be ratified by the senate, not the house. The only good news is that most democrats don't want to be seen as the guy that took our guns away. Then there is the problem of the 2nd amendment. Treaties do not supersede the Constitution. King Barry might try to sell that bullshit, but it wont fly. If he gets another activist judge on Supreme Court, we're fucked.
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Kennedy and Scalia both are 76

Odds are he will get one and if he gets two…then we are fucked
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Any firearms legislation MUST be approved by congress. No crazy gun bans are going to make it through the House.

Don't panic. Doom off.
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Congress?


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23578537


Treaties need to be ratified by the senate, not the house. The only good news is that most democrats don't want to be seen as the guy that took our guns away. Then there is the problem of the 2nd amendment. Treaties do not supersede the Constitution. King Barry might try to sell that bullshit, but it wont fly. If he gets another activist judge on Supreme Court, we're fucked.
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not so fast..there is a little agreement with the UN that twist that concept....he[obama] signs it...it does not have to be ratified by the senate...to be LAW OR A TREATY.. because it is with the UNITED NATIONS...it has to be disavowed by the prez or sectary of state....now watch and how oabama is gonna run with this...
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LOL. American gun tards crying over losing thier toy guns. IF you dumb fk's did not keep killing each other with them then thing might be ok? Americans are so thick. Doh
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I know we are not allowed to have guns in the UK . So we get tasered we get shot . We get beaten and have lots of abuses forced upon us, because we cannot defend ourselves . We are slaves , because we let them disarm us .

So slave, don't come out with shite like this . I know this is the first step to disarm the US citizens . The ligit people, not the crims , like here in the UK where all the guns are with the crims and stupid religious tards who bring them in a piece at a time ready to make YOU and me even more of a slave, so

stfu
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that

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and check out Obamas Pupils...asshole is high as a kite on Heroine.
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This UN treaty has absolutely nothing to do with Americans and their 2nd Amendment rights. Anybody who says otherwise is lying to you or is very very fucking stupid. All this ridiculous talk about turning in firearms, taking firearms by force, and destroying the 2nd Amendment is complete horseshit. Get a fucking grip people. Conservative gun-owners still have an incredible amount of influence in Washington. That shit would NEVER fly. It won't happen this year, next year, the year after that, or even Obama's last year in office. Stop allowing yourselves to be manipulated.
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So what was the point in signing the treaty to begin with?
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IMPEACH THAT HATER OF AMERICA
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How the hell do you think you could impeach anyone in the current administration? They are all thick as thieves, not a single member of the House or Senate has the balls to stand up to the Führer Obama.

What I find amazing is the fact that a nation of Three Hundred Thirty Three Million people have allowed 535 people to change our country and our way of life.

Our Cival Servants have become our MASTERS and we have become their slaves, especially all of those people on welfare who are in fact slaves condemned to a life of crime and darkness in our inner cities.

America what have we done?

The life Expectancy of a Democracy.

By: Alexander Tyler a professor of history at the University of Edinburgh, in Scotland,

In 1887 Alexander Tyler, a Scottish history professor at the University of Edinburgh had this to say about the fall of the Athenian Republic some 2,000 years prior:

“A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government.

A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury.


From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse over loose fiscal policy, (which is) always followed by a dictatorship.”

“The average age of the world’s greatest civilizations from the beginning of history, has been about 200 years.

During those 200 years, these nations always progressed through the following sequence:

1. From bondage to spiritual faith;
2. From spiritual faith to courage;
3. From courage to liberty;
4. From liberty to abundance;
5. From abundance to complacency;
6. From complacency to apathy;
7. From apathy to dependence;
8. From dependence back to bondage.”

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You can't say anything, anything, bad about Obama or his minions otherwise you will be called racist or sexist. That's why Liberals love having minorities in these positions. Just look at how the whole Benghazi situation at panned out. Anybody caught say anything about Benghazi is being called racist. If you say anything negative about Susan Rice you are now called racist and sexist! And the media supports them... Such a sad state this country is in...
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Cycles...they rule.
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God damn, you guys just looooooove scapegoating on Obama. None of you even read what this is about. If you actually think our government is dumb enough to come after your guns you're a fucking moron. As long as you have your precious guns you're gonna keep sitting on your apathetic ass in front of the computer and not do shit because somehow you think that you having guns still means you are somewhat free. Do you really think they'd need to take your guns away to subdue you?

Why the fuck did glp turn into this circle jerk of Obama hate. You guys are literally the opposite end of the spectrum where the Obama lovers reside. I can't believe you're on this site and for some fucking ridiculous reason you think that Obama is the fucking anti Christ. What about the hundreds of Congress men? What about all the money pulling the strings? What about the CFR and the IRS? The FBI and CIA?

Fuck you brainwashed Republican vs Democrat idiots.
You mother fuckers polluted this site in the last year or so and it's fucking sick.

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Once they have the firearms under their control:

you will be chipped (mark of the beast)
National Retirement Fund. you'll take a huge cut
More and higher taxes
Agenda 21 confiscation of all private property. They will decide where you live. FEMA camp or micro apartment or worse.