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Gun BAN APPROVED by UN & Signed by Obama

 
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1. This is OP's interpretation of the speech.
2. Are govt. agencies gonna go door to door and confiscate these weapons?
3. If these weapons were bought legally, but are now deemed illegal, is the govt. going to reimburse citizens for the cost of the weapon if it is confiscated?
4. Does the govt. expect it's citizens to bring knives to a gunfight?
5. A ban on these weapons is just not going to work out well.


My final point: The second amendment was written during a time when guns were a pain in the ass to load and fire...so maybe our founding Father's would agree to a ban on semi's and fully automatic weapons.

Yes, I own weapons...I've shot every weapon the USMC has in it's arsenal...even got my name on a plaque on the M60 range in 29 palms. I don't believe that I'd need and M60 to protect my family however. Some of the weapons that are legal now are a bit overkill-so I'd agree to a ban on those.

I don't agree to a ban on handguns with clips, six shooters, or bolt action rifles.
 Quoting: AFGW 21140569


It's about balance of power. Think about it.
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Again...

"When governments fear the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government."
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At the time, the senate refused to ratify it.
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I'm European but the Gunban is something bad for you americans, considering that your government is FUCKED UP, you will need your guns to throw them over when TSHTF.

WIthout guns you're fucked.
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As a matter of fact, no guns means lower rates!!

Number of Gun Homicides
ChartIn the United States, annual firearm homicides total

2009: 9,1467
2008: 9,48410 7
2007: 10,129
2006: 10,225
2005: 10,158
2004: 9,385
2003: 9,6597
2002: 9,36911
2001: 8,890
1999: 8,2596
1998: 9,257

Rate of Gun Homicide per 100,000 People
ChartIn the United States, the annual rate of firearm homicide per 100,000 population is

2009: 2.985 7
2008: 3.12
2007: 3.36
2006: 3.42
2005: 3.43
2004: 3.20
2003: 3.37
2002: 3.2511
2001: 3.12
1999: 2.976
1998: 3.37
1993: 7.0712

Rate of Gun Homicide per 100,000 People
ChartIn Italy, the annual rate of firearm homicide per 100,000 population is

2008: 0.4112
2007: 0.45
2006: 0.75 12
2005: 0.75
2004: 0.8
2003: 0.85 12
2002: 0.7
2001: 0.8
2000: 0.9
1999: 1.0
1998: 1.1
1997: 0.8112
1996: 0.96
1992: 1.6613

Number of Gun Homicides
ChartIn Italy, annual firearm homicides total

2008: 24612
2007: 269
2006: 4175 12
2005: 4045
2004: 478
2003: 4745 12
2002: 423
2001: 466
2000: 531
1999: 574
1998: 623
1997: 46312
1996: 548




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Ya know... It's literally IMPOSSIBLE to get through to these Euro libtards, and their phony propaganda-driven "statistics".

I thank God that the founding fathers left these steaming piles of shit, in the rear view mirror.
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Gee... now all we need is to have a few disastors in America, so the UN can come in and control specific ares of the country and just ban "those Guns"....







The point of the second amendment was that the electorate would have the same weapons that our government could use to impose their will upon us...

By that, if cops (ie government officials) can have these assault weapons then so should you..


Its why they shouldnt have tanks, and should not have drones in the sky, without us being able to as well.
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don't you think my pretty boys, the time has come, to drop your inner child cravings to play the tin soldiers or indians & cowboys?
Grow up and grow withouth violence.

sic et simpliciter.

If you lived in Germany, and no homicide occurred is due do the BAN on weapons, if you lift the BAN the homicide rates will be those of US. If US put a ban, you can hang out everywhere, already supposing that nobody might carry guns. If you're unsure, pepper sprays are terrific, the victim will be paralyzed.
So my darling, that "some shit" happens for a mere reason: Guns were allowed
 Quoting: >:Aldabaran:<


Get off the dope, Eurotard. It's making you as dumb as a fencepost.

Maybe YOU (being the imbecile that you are) place your faith in human nature, and it's WONDERFUL track record.

But those with an IQ above freezing actually LEARN from history, and are astute enough to actually take a look around them, and the PRESENT world we live in. And the signs of the times. Only complete IDIOTS disarm in the face of danger.

Mind your OWN country's business, you worthless grease ball.
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In this case robbery i think the pepper injects an intolerable pain into the eyes, that in turn, will cause so much stress on the crackpot that won't be able to stand up turn or aim. If you manage to spray all the bottle, the pain will be so unbearable his control will be lost. You then run away and call the police. Sure it is best
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The criminal will not obey any laws, and will be ARMED. Pepper spray is WORTHLESS against a firearm.

You WANT innocent people to die.

You are the worst, and most VILE form of scum.
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1. This is OP's interpretation of the speech.
2. Are govt. agencies gonna go door to door and confiscate these weapons?
3. If these weapons were bought legally, but are now deemed illegal, is the govt. going to reimburse citizens for the cost of the weapon if it is confiscated?
4. Does the govt. expect it's citizens to bring knives to a gunfight?
5. A ban on these weapons is just not going to work out well.


My final point: The second amendment was written during a time when guns were a pain in the ass to load and fire...so maybe our founding Father's would agree to a ban on semi's and fully automatic weapons.

Yes, I own weapons...I've shot every weapon the USMC has in it's arsenal...even got my name on a plaque on the M60 range in 29 palms. I don't believe that I'd need and M60 to protect my family however. Some of the weapons that are legal now are a bit overkill-so I'd agree to a ban on those.

I don't agree to a ban on handguns with clips, six shooters, or bolt action rifles.
 Quoting: AFGW 21140569


While I can agree with you on principle... the problem is, It is merely a stepping stone to getting rid of guns all together. That is what is ultimately wanted.

I still can't figure out what someone expects to do with fully automatic weapons, etc.
Do they think they can hold off the government using an automatic weapon if the government decided to take it from them?

That being said, I can not and will not agree to any ban on firearms because I understand the true intent is to remove ALL guns from private citizens.
 Quoting: mikebo2


I am the much hated poster that has been called all sorts of things tonight. Do any of you realize that they're are bans already in place? Like fully-automatic weapons? I don't agree with the banning of firearms in order to protect life and property... all of you hating me for my statement just gives me a list of non-critical thinkers. All I stated was that maybe the constitution would have been a totally different document if the founding fathers were here today in this time and age.

Oh...and by the way, if you don't like what I posted, that's fine, but don't disrespect a person who fought for your country just because you didn't agree with what they had to say or misinterpreted it. Also...I'm a chick...not a dude, AFGW= A Few Good Women.

I'm willing to bet that not one of the haters served at all and don't ever tell a Marine that they should be ashamed of themselves for having an opinion on a controversial topic.

If you have been trained in firing a weapon, all you would need was one shot...one kill.
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You aren't fooling anyone shill. And we stand by our initial assessment.

You are just another degenerate bullshit salesman. And we aren't customers.
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1. This is OP's interpretation of the speech.
2. Are govt. agencies gonna go door to door and confiscate these weapons?
3. If these weapons were bought legally, but are now deemed illegal, is the govt. going to reimburse citizens for the cost of the weapon if it is confiscated?
4. Does the govt. expect it's citizens to bring knives to a gunfight?
5. A ban on these weapons is just not going to work out well.


My final point: The second amendment was written during a time when guns were a pain in the ass to load and fire...so maybe our founding Father's would agree to a ban on semi's and fully automatic weapons.

Yes, I own weapons...I've shot every weapon the USMC has in it's arsenal...even got my name on a plaque on the M60 range in 29 palms. I don't believe that I'd need and M60 to protect my family however. Some of the weapons that are legal now are a bit overkill-so I'd agree to a ban on those.

I don't agree to a ban on handguns with clips, six shooters, or bolt action rifles.
 Quoting: AFGW 21140569


Marine,

They're not called clips. There's no such thing as a CLIP you wannabe Leatherneck. They're called Magazines!
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Duh, I'm not talking to Marines...seems like I'm talking to a bunch of ID10t's. Clips are for handguns...magazines are for rifles. Wannabe Leatherneck, huh? If you'd like I could fax you my DD214. I don't have to prove shit to you anyway, the bad thing about this is that I served for you, and you're being a complete dick. Do you expect me to still call my sneakers "tenny runners" or my hat a "cover" or tell people that I need to "hit the head". I'm am a proud Gulf War Era Veteran and you need to "Lock it up!"
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You're full of shit.

No sale.
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Obama yo momma, I will not comply with anything the gay monkey signs... Monkey, chimp, spooky, ape
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1. This is OP's interpretation of the speech.
2. Are govt. agencies gonna go door to door and confiscate these weapons?
3. If these weapons were bought legally, but are now deemed illegal, is the govt. going to reimburse citizens for the cost of the weapon if it is confiscated?
4. Does the govt. expect it's citizens to bring knives to a gunfight?
5. A ban on these weapons is just not going to work out well.


My final point: The second amendment was written during a time when guns were a pain in the ass to load and fire...so maybe our founding Father's would agree to a ban on semi's and fully automatic weapons.

Yes, I own weapons...I've shot every weapon the USMC has in it's arsenal...even got my name on a plaque on the M60 range in 29 palms. I don't believe that I'd need and M60 to protect my family however. Some of the weapons that are legal now are a bit overkill-so I'd agree to a ban on those.

I don't agree to a ban on handguns with clips, six shooters, or bolt action rifles.
 Quoting: AFGW 21140569


And to imagine you took the oath to serve and protect. Traitor!
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The guy is a shill.

Was never a Marine, but yes... A traitor.
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Fuck you slimy civilian. I'm sorry I served for your stupid ass. And once again, I'm a woman...if you really read through the thread you would have known that, your just trolling. I may be many things...but a traitor I am not. Perhaps if you didn't quit school and moved out of yer mama's trailer...you'd git the gist of what I'm tryin ta say here. Go fuck a horse, jackass.
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Slimy civilian... eh?

Ahh yes... NOW we are seeing the true nature of this "Marine".

Is anyone willing to give any SERIOUS consideration to the advice given by this phony, who wants to see you less able to defend yourself?

Us "lowly" civilians are interested in ANYTHING you have to say, wannabe bitch boy.
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"Concluding its two-week session today, the second United Nations conference to review the 2001 Programme of Action on trafficking in small arms and light weapons adopted a consensus outcome document that highlighted the international community’s renewed commitment to preventing, combating and eradicating the illicit trade."


"Further by the text, States emphasized that the illicit trade in small arms and light weapons continued to sustain conflicts, exacerbate armed violence, undermine respect for international humanitarian law and international human rights law, aid terrorism and illegal armed groups, and facilitate increasing levels of transnational organized crime, as well as trafficking in humans, drugs and certain natural resources.

Recognizing the primary responsibility of Governments in preventing, combating and eradicating small-arms trafficking, Member States welcomed the progress made so far in implementing the Programme of Action and the International Tracing Instrument, including the creation of national laws and action plans. However, they stressed that implementation remained uneven, and that challenges and obstacles still stood in the way of full implementation."



What gun-ban? There's nothing about it on the record from the meeting, if it was a law, it would have had to be mentioned, and recorded.

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Thank you s.d. Butler. I can't believe that comment was made by a marine. I would think if anyone would understand the true meaning of the 2nd amendment it would be him.
 Quoting: Oscanator 24421278


Don't buy the bullshit.

The guy is a shill. One of MANY.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28564512


Well, believe it. Right now it would seem as if you were infringing on my freedom of speech.
It's funny how everyone who had something to say against me kept referring to me as a dude...when I've stated more than once that I am a woman. So...who's really the shill? Seems like there's a full moon and all the werehaters are out tonight.
The second amendment says that we are entitled to the same firearms as the military...that would mean that I could go get a grenade launcher at my local army surplus store...better yet, I should go and get a handfull of grenades and some teargas...how about a SAW and 50cal while I'm at it.

The reason why civilians shouldn't have these sorts of weapons is obvious...they are not properly trained in safety and may not be mentally stable enough.

I never said that I agree on a ban on all weapons...I just believe that there are some weapons out there that will do more harm than good.

But, alas, haters gonna hate. Call me a shill if you like...but I'll be damned if you deny the honor I earned to become a Marine.

Hell, if you want to have an arsenal that would blow up a town, just head over to SC and hit up the firework outlets...you could do all sorts of things (like protect your family :/) with that stuff.

I'm done with this hateful site for today. The lot of you can go shoot each other for all I care.
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Good...

Don't let the door hit you in the ass, bitch boy.
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I'm European but the Gunban is something bad for you americans, considering that your government is FUCKED UP, you will need your guns to throw them over when TSHTF.

WIthout guns you're fucked.
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Well said. Al;ways refreshing to see that there are still a few Euro's with a lick of common sense.
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Every thug walking the street owns a gun illegally. Most murders are committed with guns that are illegally owned.

So you take away the guns of the citizens who got them legally, but do nothing about all the criminals who will continue to own any weapon including assault rifles that they wish to own.

Bullshit
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Rules on gunbuying and licencing in the UK

From 1997, firearm and shotgun certification became more stringent. Among the extra hurdles added, people who now apply for Firearms Certificates have to provide two referees, and the police are able to revoke a Firearms Certificate in cases where the holder no longer has a good reason to possess firearms or ammunition.

Certain types of firearm are hard to obtain in Britain without a stringent Home Office licence. These include automatic weapons and most handguns.

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LOL! Why would anyone need a gun in the USA? It's in perfect harmony, spotless officials and government, the cities are crime free and full of well intentioned farm laborers. Mexico is a tropical paradise with friendly chicitas and the prison population have all converted to Buddhism. It's just those drunk Canadian that are troublesome. You boys are firked!
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So when will the Edict er I mean Executive Order be issued saying you have X number of days to turn your shit it ?
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Can't wait to ignore it.
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Thank you s.d. Butler. I can't believe that comment was made by a marine. I would think if anyone would understand the true meaning of the 2nd amendment it would be him.
 Quoting: Oscanator 24421278


Don't buy the bullshit.

The guy is a shill. One of MANY.
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Well, believe it. Right now it would seem as if you were infringing on my freedom of speech.
It's funny how everyone who had something to say against me kept referring to me as a dude...when I've stated more than once that I am a woman. So...who's really the shill? Seems like there's a full moon and all the werehaters are out tonight.
The second amendment says that we are entitled to the same firearms as the military...that would mean that I could go get a grenade launcher at my local army surplus store...better yet, I should go and get a handfull of grenades and some teargas...how about a SAW and 50cal while I'm at it.

The reason why civilians shouldn't have these sorts of weapons is obvious...they are not properly trained in safety and may not be mentally stable enough.

I never said that I agree on a ban on all weapons...I just believe that there are some weapons out there that will do more harm than good.

But, alas, haters gonna hate. Call me a shill if you like...but I'll be damned if you deny the honor I earned to become a Marine.

Hell, if you want to have an arsenal that would blow up a town, just head over to SC and hit up the firework outlets...you could do all sorts of things (like protect your family :/) with that stuff.

I'm done with this hateful site for today. The lot of you can go shoot each other for all I care.
 Quoting: AFGW 21140569



Good...

Don't let the door hit you in the ass, bitch boy.
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The scary part is, this kind of thinking is common with newer vets.
I had returning vet tell me that there was nothing wrong with a totalitarian government if you weren't a criminal.

If you want to have any kind of sense about you, don't join the military ever.
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One thing about Obama he doesn't lie about things he wants or has done. He tells us upfront what he will do. I didn't vote for him based on this and many other things about the man. So I'm fairly certain that he will use regulations to get this passed,i.e. lead in ammunition can cause birth defects ban lead for bullets and what do you have? very expensive bullets made from steel. Or put a non refundable fee on every box of ammo $100 or $1000 doesn't matter they will be out of reach for most Americans budgets. You say I will reload my own, well then make buying black power or nitro cellulose illegal unless you have a class 3 license. What I am saying is there are many ways for the Feds to make it impossible for us to own weapons without actually banning them. Me I say stock up if you haven't already.
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I do believe he's a communist...total control means taking our money, our property, our guns....they ARE prepared to TAKE what they want. Terms are communist, marxist, facist, nazi....they are all part and parcel of the thing in the white house...get prepared. Thank you useful "progressive" idiots.
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oh geez more banning
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Don't buy the bullshit.

The guy is a shill. One of MANY.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28564512


Well, believe it. Right now it would seem as if you were infringing on my freedom of speech.
It's funny how everyone who had something to say against me kept referring to me as a dude...when I've stated more than once that I am a woman. So...who's really the shill? Seems like there's a full moon and all the werehaters are out tonight.
The second amendment says that we are entitled to the same firearms as the military...that would mean that I could go get a grenade launcher at my local army surplus store...better yet, I should go and get a handfull of grenades and some teargas...how about a SAW and 50cal while I'm at it.

The reason why civilians shouldn't have these sorts of weapons is obvious...they are not properly trained in safety and may not be mentally stable enough.

I never said that I agree on a ban on all weapons...I just believe that there are some weapons out there that will do more harm than good.

But, alas, haters gonna hate. Call me a shill if you like...but I'll be damned if you deny the honor I earned to become a Marine.

Hell, if you want to have an arsenal that would blow up a town, just head over to SC and hit up the firework outlets...you could do all sorts of things (like protect your family :/) with that stuff.

I'm done with this hateful site for today. The lot of you can go shoot each other for all I care.
 Quoting: AFGW 21140569



Good...

Don't let the door hit you in the ass, bitch boy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28564512


The scary part is, this kind of thinking is common with newer vets.
I had returning vet tell me that there was nothing wrong with a totalitarian government if you weren't a criminal.

If you want to have any kind of sense about you, don't join the military ever.
 Quoting: jadksn 28459521


So these scum couldn't care less about their oath.

Traitors of the highest order.
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it means they're going to come and take what you legally purchased.
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Here's the video:



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It is a declaration of war if they try to do anything about the 2nd Amendment illegally. For God's sake, the man is a Constitutional lawyer -- so he says.
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Some of the weapons that are legal now are a bit overkill-so I'd agree to a ban on those.

I don't agree to a ban on handguns with clips, six shooters, or bolt action rifles.
 Quoting: AFGW 21140569


Would you mind posting the homicide rate by firearm type? Because if you did, you'd realize that those handguns that you support are used about 80% of the time. Rifles of all types account for about 5%.

I'm not saying that I support a ban on those instead. I don't support a ban, period. I just think that its ironic that a lot of people make the same argument as you, and its not a very logical one when the weapons you would allow are actually the problem, if working under the false assumption that the weapon is the problem, not the person using it.
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Any firearms legislation MUST be approved by congress. No crazy gun bans are going to make it through the House.

Don't panic. Doom off.
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Not true at all, thread link on page two with goverment links inside.


Here is the relevant post to this subject; it is a GCA import issue.

Thread: Timothy Geithner (Secretary of the Treasury) alone determines what Shotguns & shells are considered “destructive devices” and can be banned (Page 2)

Last Edited by Chrit on 11/27/2012 06:31 AM
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1. This is OP's interpretation of the speech.
2. Are govt. agencies gonna go door to door and confiscate these weapons?
3. If these weapons were bought legally, but are now deemed illegal, is the govt. going to reimburse citizens for the cost of the weapon if it is confiscated?
4. Does the govt. expect it's citizens to bring knives to a gunfight?
5. A ban on these weapons is just not going to work out well.


My final point: The second amendment was written during a time when guns were a pain in the ass to load and fire...so maybe our founding Father's would agree to a ban on semi's and fully automatic weapons.

Yes, I own weapons...I've shot every weapon the USMC has in it's arsenal...even got my name on a plaque on the M60 range in 29 palms. I don't believe that I'd need and M60 to protect my family however. Some of the weapons that are legal now are a bit overkill-so I'd agree to a ban on those.

I don't agree to a ban on handguns with clips, six shooters, or bolt action rifles.
 Quoting: AFGW 21140569


There's no way this guy is a true veteran! We took an oath to defend the constitution. I don't know any veteran that would agree with desecrating it like this troll. Just an agent trying to make us patriots look bad.
Carry on!
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11/27/2012 06:41 AM
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Re: Gun BAN APPROVED by UN & Signed by Obama
1. This is OP's interpretation of the speech.
2. Are govt. agencies gonna go door to door and confiscate these weapons?
3. If these weapons were bought legally, but are now deemed illegal, is the govt. going to reimburse citizens for the cost of the weapon if it is confiscated?
4. Does the govt. expect it's citizens to bring knives to a gunfight?
5. A ban on these weapons is just not going to work out well.


My final point: The second amendment was written during a time when guns were a pain in the ass to load and fire...so maybe our founding Father's would agree to a ban on semi's and fully automatic weapons.

Yes, I own weapons...I've shot every weapon the USMC has in it's arsenal...even got my name on a plaque on the M60 range in 29 palms. I don't believe that I'd need and M60 to protect my family however. Some of the weapons that are legal now are a bit overkill-so I'd agree to a ban on those.

I don't agree to a ban on handguns with clips, six shooters, or bolt action rifles.
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The Second Amendment had nothing to do with muskets or AKs. The Second Amendment allows people the right to bear arms to form a militia for self defense or to keep the federal government from being tyrannical. The founding fathers would say, whatever the enemy has, you have the right to bear yourself. otherwise, we'd be bringing muskets to a drone fight. LOL
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11/27/2012 06:55 AM
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Re: Gun BAN APPROVED by UN & Signed by Obama
Fuck you slimy civilian. I'm sorry I served for your stupid ass. And once again, I'm a woman...if you really read through the thread you would have known that, your just trolling. I may be many things...but a traitor I am not. Perhaps if you didn't quit school and moved out of yer mama's trailer...you'd git the gist of what I'm tryin ta say here. Go fuck a horse, jackass.
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You were no USMC Marine. Communist bastard you might be... but Marine, no.

YOU are a traitorous bastard if you do not support the non-infringement of the 2nd Amendment in which the right to bear arms exists.

Note it is a RIGHT. NOT a privilege.

NOTE it cannot be infringed.

You cannot change the Constitution unless there is a Constitutional convention and 3/5 of the States vote to amend the Constitution.

So STFU and be a Marine, if you are one. I am not at all convinced. You pledged an oath to the US code of Military Justice. Either do what you said or you are without integrity.
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11/27/2012 07:02 AM
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Oh, and for good measure, this is what will happen if anybody thinks to come try to confiscate weapons:



[link to www.youtube.com]

Confiscators get the pit...
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11/27/2012 07:09 AM
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Re: Gun BAN APPROVED by UN & Signed by Obama
1. This is OP's interpretation of the speech.
2. Are govt. agencies gonna go door to door and confiscate these weapons?
3. If these weapons were bought legally, but are now deemed illegal, is the govt. going to reimburse citizens for the cost of the weapon if it is confiscated?
4. Does the govt. expect it's citizens to bring knives to a gunfight?
5. A ban on these weapons is just not going to work out well.


My final point: The second amendment was written during a time when guns were a pain in the ass to load and fire...so maybe our founding Father's would agree to a ban on semi's and fully automatic weapons.

Yes, I own weapons...I've shot every weapon the USMC has in it's arsenal...even got my name on a plaque on the M60 range in 29 palms. I don't believe that I'd need and M60 to protect my family however. Some of the weapons that are legal now are a bit overkill-so I'd agree to a ban on those.

I don't agree to a ban on handguns with clips, six shooters, or bolt action rifles.
 Quoting: AFGW 21140569


No. The founding fathers wanted people to bring a governments' gun to a tyrant govt. smackdown fight. It's not about hunting or 'convenience'. It's about shit like taking GM bondholders cash and buying Obama phones with it. It's about selling full auto weapons to drug cartels and telling people stfu, I don't care who get's killed. WhatEVER the govt will use on you, people need to have in spades to make up for a lack of training. That's what the founding fathers intended. Everyone is on the same playing field. Only one side is right though.

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