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I am playing Devils Advocate here (literally).

At Thanksgiving dinner, my Christian in-laws were arguing over how big of a sin it is to be homosexual. They said it is so bad that God put it in the Bible. So, my question is this - on a scale of 1 to 10 - one being the worst and ten, well, less worse, where does homosexuality fall in that scale?

Now that you have honestly (and by that I mean truthfully, with the whole truth and nothing but the truth) answered my first question, please answer this next question. If it's so bad, why didn't God put it in the TEN COMMANDMENTS?
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ok, im not a christ-tard, nor do i see anything wrong with 2 or more adults doing whatever floats their boats sexually so long as their is no victimization involved (chesters, rapists, etc), or small defenseless animals hurt, lol. but it would seem the biggest reason why, though it's considered a "major sin" it wouldn't be mentioned in the 10 commandments is the fact that according to their book of fables, ol' yahweh had already destroyed soddom and gamorah, and then 99.999999% of life on the planet over it. it would by that time already be a "given" that "sky daddy" seriously disapproved of such activities. it would be the equivalent of the line in a stove owner's manual that says "dont place had in the flames of the burner" to include it in the big 10. granted, the whole schpiel holds no water in my eyes, but it would seem the logical reason for not having to include it.
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They lick and f88k the hole you shit from. Perfectly normal behavior.
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ok, im not a christ-tard, nor do i see anything wrong with 2 or more adults doing whatever floats their boats sexually so long as their is no victimization involved (chesters, rapists, etc), or small defenseless animals hurt, lol. but it would seem the biggest reason why, though it's considered a "major sin" it wouldn't be mentioned in the 10 commandments is the fact that according to their book of fables, ol' yahweh had already destroyed soddom and gamorah, and then 99.999999% of life on the planet over it. it would by that time already be a "given" that "sky daddy" seriously disapproved of such activities. it would be the equivalent of the line in a stove owner's manual that says "dont place had in the flames of the burner" to include it in the big 10. granted, the whole schpiel holds no water in my eyes, but it would seem the logical reason for not having to include it.
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damn... "THERE is no"... and "dont place HAND"... dislexic fingers, sorry
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I am playing Devils Advocate here (literally).

At Thanksgiving dinner, my Christian in-laws were arguing over how big of a sin it is to be homosexual. They said it is so bad that God put it in the Bible. So, my question is this - on a scale of 1 to 10 - one being the worst and ten, well, less worse, where does homosexuality fall in that scale?

Now that you have honestly (and by that I mean truthfully, with the whole truth and nothing but the truth) answered my first question, please answer this next question. If it's so bad, why didn't God put it in the TEN COMMANDMENTS?
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(1) Sin is sin. There is no scale.

(2) The Ten Commandments are not an exhaustive check list of all possible sins. Rather, they illustrate the nature of God by showing humans how their behavior deviates from that nature.
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I am playing Devils Advocate here (literally).

At Thanksgiving dinner, my Christian in-laws were arguing over how big of a sin it is to be homosexual. They said it is so bad that God put it in the Bible. So, my question is this - on a scale of 1 to 10 - one being the worst and ten, well, less worse, where does homosexuality fall in that scale?

Now that you have honestly (and by that I mean truthfully, with the whole truth and nothing but the truth) answered my first question, please answer this next question. If it's so bad, why didn't God put it in the TEN COMMANDMENTS?
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(1) Sin is sin. There is no scale.

(2) The Ten Commandments are not an exhaustive check list of all possible sins. Rather, they illustrate the nature of God by showing humans how their behavior deviates from that nature.
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No scale? Isn't this evidence in the Bible of a sin scale?


Leviticus 18:22 ESV / 79 helpful votes

You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination.

Leviticus 20:13 ESV / 70 helpful votes

If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them.

Proverbs 6:16-19 ESV / 54 helpful votes

There are six things that the Lord hates, seven that are an abomination to him: haughty eyes, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, a heart that devises wicked plans, feet that make haste to run to evil, a false witness who breathes out lies, and one who sows discord among brothers.
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I am playing Devils Advocate here (literally).

At Thanksgiving dinner, my Christian in-laws were arguing over how big of a sin it is to be homosexual. They said it is so bad that God put it in the Bible. So, my question is this - on a scale of 1 to 10 - one being the worst and ten, well, less worse, where does homosexuality fall in that scale?

Now that you have honestly (and by that I mean truthfully, with the whole truth and nothing but the truth) answered my first question, please answer this next question. If it's so bad, why didn't God put it in the TEN COMMANDMENTS?
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(1) Sin is sin. There is no scale.

(2) The Ten Commandments are not an exhaustive check list of all possible sins. Rather, they illustrate the nature of God by showing humans how their behavior deviates from that nature.
 Quoting: Life and Love


No scale? Isn't this evidence in the Bible of a sin scale?


Leviticus 18:22 ESV / 79 helpful votes

You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination.

Leviticus 20:13 ESV / 70 helpful votes

If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them.

Proverbs 6:16-19 ESV / 54 helpful votes

There are six things that the Lord hates, seven that are an abomination to him: haughty eyes, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, a heart that devises wicked plans, feet that make haste to run to evil, a false witness who breathes out lies, and one who sows discord among brothers.
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Well, if you already had an answer that satisfied you, why did you ask others?

But, no, I don't agree that your references (and votes?) define any kind of a sin scale.
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Everyone sins. If you know Christians who act as if homosexuality is worse than just about anything else then they are guilty of a sin called self righteousness and may be Christians in name only.
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Everyone sins. If you know Christians who act as if homosexuality is worse than just about anything else then they are guilty of a sin called self righteousness and may be Christians in name only.
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Agreed. And usually what is "worse than just about anything else" is what the other guy is doing, not me.
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Ummmmm..... How about he destroyed cities w/ fire and brimstone for it.... and it's one of the sins he's gonna destroy the world for?????

"And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an example unto those that after should live ungodly;" II Peter 2:6
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I am playing Devils Advocate here (literally).

At Thanksgiving dinner, my Christian in-laws were arguing over how big of a sin it is to be homosexual. They said it is so bad that God put it in the Bible. So, my question is this - on a scale of 1 to 10 - one being the worst and ten, well, less worse, where does homosexuality fall in that scale?

Now that you have honestly (and by that I mean truthfully, with the whole truth and nothing but the truth) answered my first question, please answer this next question. If it's so bad, why didn't God put it in the TEN COMMANDMENTS?
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(1) Sin is sin. There is no scale.

(2) The Ten Commandments are not an exhaustive check list of all possible sins. Rather, they illustrate the nature of God by showing humans how their behavior deviates from that nature.
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Right . Sin is sin. People need to remember to read the Bible as a whole, and not just isolate verses.

Romans chapter 1 gives a description of the progressively
destructive nature of sins.
Verse 21 says "they did not honor Him as God or give thanks.
So not giving thanks is the beginning of sin.
Consequently their heart was darkened.
So then verse 22 thinking themselves wise, they became fools (godless)
Next verse 23 they worshipped idols.
Therefore verse 24 God gave them over to lusts and impurity, tat their bodies might be "dishonored".
Next verse 25, they deliberately chose to believe lies.
Verse 26, God took His hand off them, stopped protecting them and said, "have it your way," and He gave them over to degrading passions..."their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural." verse 27, and "men committed indecent acts and received in their bodies the due penalty of their error"... Maybe homosexuality isn't the worst sin, but it is the most degrading thing one can do to a body. Read those verses in the Bible, and the subsequent verses,....these passages give the full progression of sin. It begins with being ungrateful to God and now acknowledging Him. Then sin is described as being increasingly degrading and increasingly destructive.
God doesn't say that homosexuality is the WORST sin, but it is described as being one of the most DESTRUCTIVE. Throughout the Bible, sin is sin, and one sin LEADS to the next progressively more destructive sin.
God offers salvation to the ungrateful, to the idol worshippers, to the homosexual and other perverts, to the murderers, greedy, the gossips, to all sinners.
And He tells us right here in Romans that the sure path to progressively deeper and deeper, and to more destructive sin begins with being ungrateful and not acknowledging Him.
That's why I tell my kids, "Be grateful, or you'll become a pervert." My husband says, "That's Jo Ann 1:1"... nah, that's God, Romans 1.
The book of Romans is the full sweep of salvation. It shows that there is no excuse for denying God, for being ungrateful and becoming destructively sinful. Be saved today!
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Not looking at it from a religious but an act against nature. It is a 1 by far worse than any other perversions, because the gays are responsible for spreading AIDS Virus around the world killing millions and it is still killing millions. That is a fact. Aids in this country can be trace to one gay person coming from Africa.

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They said it is so bad that God put it in the Bible.
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Well, the Gospels have no statement from Jesus about homosexuality. But Jesus did say that if you divorce and remarry, you're committing adultery. (And Paul said adulterers will not see Heaven.)

I think Christ's approach to sex is that "the flesh profiteth nothing". A seeking person will outgrow sexual things as he becomes less worldly.
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OP ... read carefully until you GET it, these are the words of Jesus found in

Matthew 19:12

For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother's womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it.


in case you DIDN'T get it.... some 'enuchs' are born that way (from their MOTHER"S womb)...meaning=Jesus is recognizing men who are born and do not engage in procreation with women=homosexuals

so, 3 types of eunuchs are:

1)those BORN that way
2)those who have been castrated by men (usually for rape)
3) those who choose celibacy ie. priests or practicing mystics

and yes, Junior...masturbation was viewed in ancient times as 'wasting your seed' and being 'without oil' (foolish virgins) the oil is the life force that rises up with higher consciousness/divine spirit that annoints your head ;')
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(1) Sin is sin. There is no scale.

(2) The Ten Commandments are not an exhaustive check list of all possible sins. Rather, they illustrate the nature of God by showing humans how their behavior deviates from that nature.


Sad thing is that God made it all.

He made man and woman.

How do you suppose he knew how to make a woman and to make her feel like one?

He must have been bisexual.

No other logic works.
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They lick and f88k the hole you shit from. Perfectly normal behavior.
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nearly 40% of heterosexual males also 'f88k the hole you shit from' fool.
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I am just saying that if God really wanted to make a point about it being so bad, He would have put it in the list. The list - the Ten Commandments ARE from GOD, right? You'd say that? Right?

So Jesus was asked the same sort of question. He didn't rant and rave about how this or that is the road to hell, he merely said that instead of TEN "DONT'S", there are TWO "DO'S" - love your neighbor as yourself (and what homosexual isn't full filling that commandment) and love God with all your heart, soul and strength.

I say if you love God, you won't go to hell no matter what you ate for dinner, no matter what you smoked or who you f**ked.
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I would not worry about what the Christians believe, I would be more concerned with the Muzzie view on the subject ...
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On a scale of 1 to 10, every sin is a 10.
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I am playing Devils Advocate here (literally).

At Thanksgiving dinner, my Christian in-laws were arguing over how big of a sin it is to be homosexual. They said it is so bad that God put it in the Bible. So, my question is this - on a scale of 1 to 10 - one being the worst and ten, well, less worse, where does homosexuality fall in that scale?

Now that you have honestly (and by that I mean truthfully, with the whole truth and nothing but the truth) answered my first question, please answer this next question. If it's so bad, why didn't God put it in the TEN COMMANDMENTS?
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(1) Sin is sin. There is no scale.

(2) The Ten Commandments are not an exhaustive check list of all possible sins. Rather, they illustrate the nature of God by showing humans how their behavior deviates from that nature.
 Quoting: Life and Love


No scale? Isn't this evidence in the Bible of a sin scale?


Leviticus 18:22 ESV / 79 helpful votes

You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination.

Leviticus 20:13 ESV / 70 helpful votes

If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them.

Proverbs 6:16-19 ESV / 54 helpful votes

There are six things that the Lord hates, seven that are an abomination to him: haughty eyes, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, a heart that devises wicked plans, feet that make haste to run to evil, a false witness who breathes out lies, and one who sows discord among brothers.
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1. Homosexuals do not lie with the opposite sex.

2. Abomination only means "against tradition." It does not mean monstrous or outcast as they will have you to believe.

3. God does not give man the right to kill another man.

4. Should a Christian judge one for their sexuality, they themselves are an "abomination" to the church and to Christ for their sin. They go against the "traditions" of the church, Christianity, and Christ.

5. It is written.
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In the ten commandments any sexual sin comes under the heading of adultery. If you are with anybody else besides your wife or future wife that God intended for you to be happy and fulfilled with it is considered adultery. It is also a part of the first two commandments which are to love God and your neighbor. If the sexual sin is causing you to be separated from God and is harming another person or using another person for your own personal gratification of lust rather than love then you are harming yourself and the other person.
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In the ten commandments any sexual sin comes under the heading of adultery. If you are with anybody else besides your wife or future wife that God intended for you to be happy and fulfilled with it is considered adultery. It is also a part of the first two commandments which are to love God and your neighbor. If the sexual sin is causing you to be separated from God and is harming another person or using another person for your own personal gratification of lust rather than love then you are harming yourself and the other person.
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You are just about as ignorant as the rest of your contemporaries.
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I am playing Devils Advocate here (literally).

If it's so bad, why didn't God put it in the TEN COMMANDMENTS?
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grizzy The Lord didn't put Abortion in the TEN COMMANDMENTS either Mr Smart-arse.

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Sinning doesn't send you to hell.

You're already going there if you're human and don't accept Christ.

It's not punishment. It's your destiny.

All flesh is corrupted.



Sin brings turmoil to the world.

It makes things not work the way they were intended.

It creates it's own hellishness on earth.
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I am playing Devils Advocate here (literally).

If it's so bad, why didn't God put it in the TEN COMMANDMENTS?
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:grizzy: The Lord didn't put Abortion in the TEN COMMANDMENTS either Mr Smart-arse.

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So much for the all-seeing, all-knowing being, I'd say...
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Sinning doesn't send you to hell.

You're already going there if you're human and don't accept Christ.

It's not punishment. It's your destiny.

All flesh is corrupted.



Sin brings turmoil to the world.

It makes things not work the way they were intended.

It creates it's own hellishness on earth.
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More ignorance.
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NASTY SEXUAL behavior is not allowed by anyone. Gays are free to partner and share their lives in love, just as are heterosexual couples. Both engage in death dealing sexual practices and the spread of sexual disease alone can kill every one on this planet, whether they engage in nasty sex or not, because aids and others can be spread by non sexual practices also. Ponder it.

If you wish to actually UNDERSTAND and KNOW the LAWS of God, the commandments they have been regiven to this world, by Jesus and his buddies, and are found here, all 20 of them. [link to tweeofmeer.webs.com] This is a book. You will find it well worth your time to read.
The actual Lord's Prayer Given by Jesus 2000 years ago.

"MY SPIRIT, YOU ARE OMNIPOTENT. YOUR NAME IS HOLY. MAY YOUR REALM BE INCARNATE IN ME. MAY YOUR POWER REVEAL ITSELF WITHIN ME, ON EARTH AND IN THE HEAVEN. GIVE ME TODAY MY DAILY BREAD, AND THUS, LET ME RECOGNIZE MY TRANSGRESSIONS AND ERRORS, AND I SHALL RECOGNIZE THE TRUTH. AND DO NOT LEAD ME INTO TEMPTATION AND CONFUSION, BUT DELIVER ME FROM ERROR. FOR YOURS IS THE REALM WITHIN ME AND THE POWER AND THE KNOWLEDGE FOREVER,
AMEN.

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Sinning doesn't send you to hell.

You're already going there if you're human and don't accept Christ.

It's not punishment. It's your destiny.

All flesh is corrupted.



Sin brings turmoil to the world.

It makes things not work the way they were intended.

It creates it's own hellishness on earth.
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pure BS and more pure BS. Please READ the book above that I linked to.
The actual Lord's Prayer Given by Jesus 2000 years ago.

"MY SPIRIT, YOU ARE OMNIPOTENT. YOUR NAME IS HOLY. MAY YOUR REALM BE INCARNATE IN ME. MAY YOUR POWER REVEAL ITSELF WITHIN ME, ON EARTH AND IN THE HEAVEN. GIVE ME TODAY MY DAILY BREAD, AND THUS, LET ME RECOGNIZE MY TRANSGRESSIONS AND ERRORS, AND I SHALL RECOGNIZE THE TRUTH. AND DO NOT LEAD ME INTO TEMPTATION AND CONFUSION, BUT DELIVER ME FROM ERROR. FOR YOURS IS THE REALM WITHIN ME AND THE POWER AND THE KNOWLEDGE FOREVER,
AMEN.

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