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Students Found Murdered In Man's Basement After 'They Robbed His Home On Thanksgiving'

 
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Friends and family have expressed their outrage over the deaths of two popular students shot by a homeowner while they robbed his home - as he revealed he fired 'more shots than he needed to'.

The bodies of cousins Haile Kifer, 18, and Nicholas Brady Schaeffel, 17, were found in Byron Smith's basement in Little Falls, Minnesota on Friday - the day after they were shot dead on Thanksgiving.

When police arrived at his home after reports of suspicious activity, Smith, 64, confessed to shooting the teenagers repeatedly and stashing their bodies after they broke into his home, authorities said.

On Monday, he was charged with second-degree murder and police revealed he told them he fired more shots than necessary after his gun jammed and Kifer laughed at him.

While Minnesota law stipulates people are allowed to use deadly force when defending their homes, relatives, friends, police and prosecutors claimed Smith reacted too drastically by killing them.

'A person has every right to defend themselves and their homes, even employing deadly force if necessary,' Morrison County Sheriff Michel Wetzel said. 'Circumstances of this case however, led deputies to believe that Smith went beyond that point.'


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Re: Students Found Murdered In Man's Basement After 'They Robbed His Home On Thanksgiving'
Friends and family have expressed their outrage over the deaths of two popular students shot by a homeowner while they robbed his home - as he revealed he fired 'more shots than he needed to'.

The bodies of cousins Haile Kifer, 18, and Nicholas Brady Schaeffel, 17, were found in Byron Smith's basement in Little Falls, Minnesota on Friday - the day after they were shot dead on Thanksgiving.

When police arrived at his home after reports of suspicious activity, Smith, 64, confessed to shooting the teenagers repeatedly and stashing their bodies after they broke into his home, authorities said.

On Monday, he was charged with second-degree murder and police revealed he told them he fired more shots than necessary after his gun jammed and Kifer laughed at him.

While Minnesota law stipulates people are allowed to use deadly force when defending their homes, relatives, friends, police and prosecutors claimed Smith reacted too drastically by killing them.

'A person has every right to defend themselves and their homes, even employing deadly force if necessary,' Morrison County Sheriff Michel Wetzel said. 'Circumstances of this case however, led deputies to believe that Smith went beyond that point.'


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2 dim whitted bitches wont be thinking about breaking into homes again.
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If amybody tries to rob my home I'll also use more force than necessary.
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Mankind will never evolve.
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Don't say shit to the police. It will be used against you in a court of law. Why is this so hard to understand?
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Don't say shit to the police. It will be used against you in a court of law. Why is this so hard to understand?
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Also, who knows if these kids really broke in to rob him. Why would he wait as long as he did. Maybe to get his story straight. I don't know, but something seems wrong here???
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Right.

A 64 yr old man is ambushed by two young and strong teenagers who are trying to steal all his shit..but he used excessive force.

What a bunch of bullshit.

I guess Corky shouldn't have laughed at him.

On the bright side, the old man is nearing the end of his life anyway, he wont be in prison for very long if he goes plus he took out a couple of lowlife scums, saved someone else the trouble.
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i gave you one star sorry i know its probably not your
choice as far as the headline.

BUT WTF is student listed in the headline for?

maybee probably this guy over reacted

but the people breaking into his house were
theiving little pricks at best maybee they did not deserve to die but they dont deserve to be refered to as students either.

the murder suspect in this case is going to get steamrolled
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They deserved whatever they got
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i gave you one star sorry i know its probably not your
choice as far as the headline.

BUT WTF is student listed in the headline for?

maybee probably this guy over reacted

but the people breaking into his house were
theiving little pricks at best maybee they did not deserve to die but they dont deserve to be refered to as students either.

the murder suspect in this case is going to get steamrolled
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Two less shitbags in the world YEAH!!!!5a
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bang .911. send the coroner .but he screwed up by not reporting it .and if he reported it he would go to jail as well murder nope i hold a ccw permit and shooting someone is the last resort in fear of my life sure but im still going to have to convince a da and i hate paper work
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sounds like there's more to the story than actually is being told.
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If he would have reported it as a smash, kick owners ass, and grab but owner gets the drop on the peeps, it may have gone ok for old geezzer. After all, dead perps tell no tales
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Mankind will never evolve.
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such as yourself...
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Re: Students Found Murdered In Man's Basement After 'They Robbed His Home On Thanksgiving'
Right.

A 64 yr old man is ambushed by two young and strong teenagers who are trying to steal all his shit..but he used excessive force.

What a bunch of bullshit.

I guess Corky shouldn't have laughed at him.

On the bright side, the old man is nearing the end of his life anyway, he wont be in prison for very long if he goes plus he took out a couple of lowlife scums, saved someone else the trouble.
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Mankind will never evolve.
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such as yourself...
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I'm not a man.
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two popular students robbing someone on thankgiving day. i think the shooting of these two is the least of societies worries.
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Minny soda?

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two popular students robbing someone on thankgiving day. i think the shooting of these two is the least of societies worries.
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+1
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Two less shitbags in the world YEAH!!!!5a
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My feeling as well
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Re: Students Found Murdered In Man's Basement After 'They Robbed His Home On Thanksgiving'
Article mentions one of the students/burglars as having an addiction problem.

Would they have killed the old man if they had the gun instead?
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'A person has every right to defend themselves and their homes, even employing deadly force if necessary,' Morrison County Sheriff Michel Wetzel said. 'Circumstances of this case however, led deputies to believe that Smith went beyond that point.'

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What point is beyond deadly force?

Dead is dead.
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Went beyond deadly force?

Just what is that then? Ultra deadly force?
Ultra mega deadly force?

Deadly force is it you bunch of fucking saps.
These two kids broke into an old man's home - no doubt living alone.
Sure, they're probably just jerks and would have just robbed him.
In this modern world though he could not assume that. He doesn't have time to sit down with them and do a background check to work out whether they're the kind of low lives who are going to murder or torture him.

His only mistake is that he should have called the police immediately after shooting them. His charge should be failing to report a death.

This is a great example of "emotional policing". Distraught relatives / friends are after blood via the police and they are being swayed by this.

Either you can defend your home with deadly force or you can't - which is it deadshits?
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sounds like there's more to the story than actually is being told.
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This is usual.

No story you read in MSM or otherwise is going to have the complete story.

Facts omitted by purpose.
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Went beyond deadly force?

Just what is that then? Ultra deadly force?
Ultra mega deadly force?

Deadly force is it you bunch of fucking saps.
These two kids broke into an old man's home - no doubt living alone.
Sure, they're probably just jerks and would have just robbed him.
In this modern world though he could not assume that. He doesn't have time to sit down with them and do a background check to work out whether they're the kind of low lives who are going to murder or torture him.

His only mistake is that he should have called the police immediately after shooting them. His charge should be failing to report a death.

This is a great example of "emotional policing". Distraught relatives / friends are after blood via the police and they are being swayed by this.

Either you can defend your home with deadly force or you can't - which is it deadshits?
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Thank god it isn't up to the cops to make that determination.
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Sure it's sad what happened to those kids, but if you break into someones home be prepared to die. How would he know they didn't have guns?
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