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why am i a christian if jesus was a jew

 
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why am i a christian if jesus was a jew
im Discombobulated
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Re: why am i a christian if jesus was a jew
And...

You are totally disconnected with the mission of Jesus "Christ".

Reset.

Start over.
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And...

You are totally disconnected with the mission of Jesus "Christ".

Reset.

Start over.
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And be a jew
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Re: why am i a christian if jesus was a jew
Why are you anything?

Why don't you just be a good person instead of doing it because you desire the riches of "heaven"?
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Re: why am i a christian if jesus was a jew
There's always Islam.
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Re: why am i a christian if jesus was a jew
"Why are you anything?

Why don't you just be a good person instead of doing it because you desire the riches of "heaven"?"

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THIS!
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Re: why am i a christian if jesus was a jew
What does being a jew have to do with it, you choose to be a christian because you need to be told how to think and feel because you cant on your own.
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Re: why am i a christian if jesus was a jew
Not only was Yeshua a Yehudim, but so were the original talmid/taught ones of his. Gentiles were converts to the Written Torah as well. They kept the Feasts found in Leviticus 23, including Shabbat.

"Church fathers" and many Torahless changed the truth into many lies, and based everything on babylon ancient teachings.

Shalom...
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Re: why am i a christian if jesus was a jew
Not only was Yeshua a Yehudim, but so were the original talmid/taught ones of his. Gentiles were converts to the Written Torah as well. They kept the Feasts found in Leviticus 23, including Shabbat.

"Church fathers" and many Torahless changed the truth into many lies, and based everything on babylon ancient teachings.

Shalom...
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Are we in Babylon?
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Hope I am not speaking out of turn ... BUT:

""Why are you anything?

Why don't you just be a good person instead of doing it because you desire the riches of "heaven"?"

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If you follow THIS path, then you will see the corruption of all doctrines and 'religions'.

THEN ... You will be FREE!
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Why are you anything?

Why don't you just be a good person instead of doing it because you desire the riches of "heaven"?
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Re: why am i a christian if jesus was a jew
You missed the point.

Christianity asserts that the Jewish Messiah was a Heretical Jew. One who claimed that all humans could be favored by God and not just the Chosen People of Israel.

That was just one of the many things Jesus said that made the Jewish Clergy very angry. This led to them demanding that the local Roman Authorities execute him.

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Re: why am i a christian if jesus was a jew
"Why are you anything?

Why don't you just be a good person instead of doing it because you desire the riches of "heaven"?"

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THIS!
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Was baptized at a young age really had no say so kinda pressured into
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Re: why am i a christian if jesus was a jew
OK.

Then rethink what you were "Pressured In To".

Research it.

Let No One "Pressure You In to" any "New Thing".

You have a basic foundation.

Dig into it.

Question it.

See if it rings true to you.

Good Luck.

God Guide you.
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Re: why am i a christian if jesus was a jew
You missed the point.

Christianity asserts that the Jewish Messiah was a Heretical Jew. One who claimed that all humans could be favored by God and not just the Chosen People of Israel.

That was just one of the many things Jesus said that made the Jewish Clergy very angry. This led to them demanding that the local Roman Authorities execute him.
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Nailed it.

It seems we have come full circle, vis-à-vis geo(religo)politics.
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Re: why am i a christian if jesus was a jew
You missed the point.

Judaism asserts that Jesus was a Heretical Jew. One who claimed that all humans could be favored by God and not just the Chosen People of Israel.

That was just one of the many things Jesus said that made the Jewish Clergy very angry. This led to them demanding that the local Roman Authorities execute him.
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Nailed it.

It seems we have come full circle, vis-à-vis geo(religo)politics.
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Wait, I fixed it now.
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Re: why am i a christian if jesus was a jew
Not only was Yeshua a Yehudim, but so were the original talmid/taught ones of his. Gentiles were converts to the Written Torah as well. They kept the Feasts found in Leviticus 23, including Shabbat.

"Church fathers" and many Torahless changed the truth into many lies, and based everything on babylon ancient teachings.

Shalom...
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Are we in Babylon?
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Babylon is more than a physical location. Babylon is a system that is hell bent against YHVH and His Mashiyach.
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Jesus was not of the Jewish religion as Jews are today. He was born of a racial Jewish mother, and came first to the Jewish people, and other tribes of Israel. Then the Gospel went to all the world.

So keep on reading until you get to that part.
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Are we in Babylon?
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Babylon is more than a physical location. Babylon is a system that is hell bent against YHVH and His Mashiyach.
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That is a different topic. Mystery Babylon Mother of Harlots is in Rome riding her 'beast' empire. She has many daughters.

The prophecy begins in the book of Daniel chapter 2,

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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Re: why am i a christian if jesus was a jew
Jesus was not of the Jewish religion as Jews are today. He was born of a racial Jewish mother, and came first to the Jewish people, and other tribes of Israel. Then the Gospel went to all the world.

So keep on reading until you get to that part.
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Can't get past the book of Genesis
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Re: why am i a christian if jesus was a jew
Jesus was not of the Jewish religion as Jews are today. He was born of a racial Jewish mother, and came first to the Jewish people, and other tribes of Israel. Then the Gospel went to all the world.

So keep on reading until you get to that part.
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Am I missing something? He observed the sabbath and all the feast days. He was even circumcised.

He followed the Jewish religion PERFECTLY! He had no sin.

For we do not have a high priest who is unable to sympathize with our weaknesses, but one who in every respect has been tempted as we are, yet without sin.
(Hebrews 4:15 ESV)

He was the ONLY one able to do so and the ONLY one qualified to pay the price for our sins.

Remember, a sacrificial lamb had to be according to Leviticus 1:10 'a male without blemish.'
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Re: why am i a christian if jesus was a jew
Jesus was not of the Jewish religion as Jews are today. He was born of a racial Jewish mother, and came first to the Jewish people, and other tribes of Israel. Then the Gospel went to all the world.

So keep on reading until you get to that part.
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Can't get past the book of Genesis
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Please listen VERY carefully.

Yeshua did NOT change or do away with the TORAH, first 5 Books of the Scriptures. His own words attest to this in Mattithyahu/Matthew 5: 17-20. Anyone that tells you differently is a LIAR and the truth is NOT in them.

Torah means Instruction, or Instruction in Righteousness. Most "christians" have NO clue because they are regurgitating what their pastors are regurgitating from seminary, etc.

Shaul/Paul continued to keep the Torah. He simply ditched the dogma and teaching of men.

Torah was still being adhered to after the resurrection of Yeshua. This is simply proven by reading Acts in Context. The gentile converts were given 4 things to abstain from immediately, then they would come into the assembly were Moshe/Torah was taught.

Seriously, if you are really searching, check out [link to Mashiyach.com] .

Shalom...
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Re: why am i a christian if jesus was a jew
Its the way the Jews make us worship them as Gods instead of God because they think we are heathens.
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But that doesn't stop you worshiping God, you can go out to a wooded uninhabited area and scream GOD I LOVE YOU GOD IM SORRY IM A HEATHEN GOD!
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This verse in a sense shows God's plan for mankind.

Lest you be wise in your own sight, I do not want you to be unaware of this mystery, brothers: a partial hardening has come upon Israel, until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in. And in this way all Israel will be saved, as it is written,
“The Deliverer will come from Zion,
he will banish ungodliness from Jacob”;
“and this will be my covenant with them
when I take away their sins.”
(Romans 11:25-27 ESV)
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Re: why am i a christian if jesus was a jew
Jesus was not of the Jewish religion as Jews are today. He was born of a racial Jewish mother, and came first to the Jewish people, and other tribes of Israel. Then the Gospel went to all the world.

So keep on reading until you get to that part.
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Am I missing something? He observed the sabbath and all the feast days. He was even circumcised.

He followed the Jewish religion PERFECTLY! He had no sin.

For we do not have a high priest who is unable to sympathize with our weaknesses, but one who in every respect has been tempted as we are, yet without sin.
(Hebrews 4:15 ESV)

He was the ONLY one able to do so and the ONLY one qualified to pay the price for our sins.

Remember, a sacrificial lamb had to be according to Leviticus 1:10 'a male without blemish.'
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Yes, you are missing, that the Jews today hold a different religion than they did 2000 years ago at the time of Jesus. Jesus followed the Torah. Today the Jews are off into traditions of the Talmud.
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Re: why am i a christian if jesus was a jew
this question has already been answered, read the book of Hebrews out of the Bible.
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Torah was still being adhered to after the resurrection of Yeshua. This is simply proven by reading Acts in Context. The gentile converts were given 4 things to abstain from immediately, then they would come into the assembly were Moshe/Torah was taught.
Shalom...
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Christians aren't under the Law of Moses. That is what the bible says in Acts 15:1-31.

But there rose up certain of the sect of the Pharisees which believed, saying, That it was needful to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses.
(Acts 15:5)


Forasmuch as we have heard, that certain which went out from us have troubled you with words, subverting your souls, saying, Ye must be circumcised, and keep the law: to whom we gave no such commandment:
(Acts 15:24)


Jesus is now High Priest of the new covenant. He isn't fromm the tribe of Levi, so the new covenant law cannot be the same as the old covenant law. That is what the bible says in Hebrews 7.

11 If therefore perfection were by the Levitical priesthood, (for under it the people received the law,) what further need was there that another priest should rise after the order of Melchisedec, and not be called after the order of Aaron?

12 For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.

13 For he of whom these things are spoken pertaineth to another tribe, of which no man gave attendance at the altar.

14 For it is evident that our Lord sprang out of Juda; of which tribe Moses spake nothing concerning priesthood.
(Hebrews 7:11-14)

Christians are not under the Law of Moses, the bible says this repeatedly. Jesus brought us a new covenant, He said it Himself.
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Torah was still being adhered to after the resurrection of Yeshua. This is simply proven by reading Acts in Context. The gentile converts were given 4 things to abstain from immediately, then they would come into the assembly were Moshe/Torah was taught.
Shalom...
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Christians aren't under the Law of Moses. That is what the bible says in Acts 15:1-31.

But there rose up certain of the sect of the Pharisees which believed, saying, That it was needful to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses.
(Acts 15:5)


Forasmuch as we have heard, that certain which went out from us have troubled you with words, subverting your souls, saying, Ye must be circumcised, and keep the law: to whom we gave no such commandment:
(Acts 15:24)


Jesus is now High Priest of the new covenant. He isn't fromm the tribe of Levi, so the new covenant law cannot be the same as the old covenant law. That is what the bible says in Hebrews 7.

11 If therefore perfection were by the Levitical priesthood, (for under it the people received the law,) what further need was there that another priest should rise after the order of Melchisedec, and not be called after the order of Aaron?

12 For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.

13 For he of whom these things are spoken pertaineth to another tribe, of which no man gave attendance at the altar.

14 For it is evident that our Lord sprang out of Juda; of which tribe Moses spake nothing concerning priesthood.
(Hebrews 7:11-14)

Christians are not under the Law of Moses, the bible says this repeatedly. Jesus brought us a new covenant, He said it Himself.
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Alright, but the High Priest and the Law of Moses are not the same as God's 10C law, that was never done away with. We are told exactly what was 'nailed to the cross' in Col 2:14 the "handwriting of the law" that is the Law of Moses performed in the temple, since Jesus was the final sacrifice. Since then Christians have been under grace directly through Christ Jesus with no need for any temple services.
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Alright, but the High Priest and the Law of Moses are not the same as God's 10C law, that was never done away with. We are told exactly what was 'nailed to the cross' in Col 2:14 the "handwriting of the law" that is the Law of Moses performed in the temple, since Jesus was the final sacrifice. Since then Christians have been under grace directly through Christ Jesus with no need for any temple services.
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The Law of Moses is all the laws in the first five books of the bible, the books that Moses wrote. That includes the 10 commandments. You can't even get through the first commandment without it being obvious that God was commanding the Israelites, not the Christians.

I am the Lord thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage.
(Deuteronomy 5:6)

Christians weren't rescued from slavery in Egypt, that was the Israelites.

And remember that thou wast a servant in the land of Egypt, and that the Lord thy God brought thee out thence through a mighty hand and by a stretched out arm: therefore the Lord thy God commanded thee to keep the sabbath day.
(Deuteronomy 5:15)

Christians weren't slaves in Egypt, and God didn't rescue the Christians from slavery in Egypt. That was the Israelites.

You can't change the 10 commandments to make them apply to Christians.
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Re: why am i a christian if jesus was a jew
THIS ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

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