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why am i a christian if jesus was a jew

 
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Alright, but the High Priest and the Law of Moses are not the same as God's 10C law, that was never done away with. We are told exactly what was 'nailed to the cross' in Col 2:14 the "handwriting of the law" that is the Law of Moses performed in the temple, since Jesus was the final sacrifice. Since then Christians have been under grace directly through Christ Jesus with no need for any temple services.
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The Law of Moses is all the laws in the first five books of the bible, the books that Moses wrote. That includes the 10 commandments. You can't even get through the first commandment without it being obvious that God was commanding the Israelites, not the Christians.

I am the Lord thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage.
(Deuteronomy 5:6)

Christians weren't rescued from slavery in Egypt, that was the Israelites.

And remember that thou wast a servant in the land of Egypt, and that the Lord thy God brought thee out thence through a mighty hand and by a stretched out arm: therefore the Lord thy God commanded thee to keep the sabbath day.
(Deuteronomy 5:15)

Christians weren't slaves in Egypt, and God didn't rescue the Christians from slavery in Egypt. That was the Israelites.

You can't change the 10 commandments to make them apply to Christians.
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The Law of Moses was an actual book of laws written by Moses as dictated by God. God's 10C Law was written by God's finger in stone. They are two different things. God's 10C Law tables of stone was placed in the Ark of the Covenant which the book of Moses' law was placed in the side of the Ark.

God's 10C Law has been from creation. Cain murdered Abel. The 7th day Sabbath, ect. They are all there from creation. The passages in Ex & Duet are when Israel were reminded of God's 10C Law.

Not all of the Law of Moses was 'nailed to the cross' either. Only that described in Col 2:14-17, the sacrificial temple services. The food laws for instance are still binding for all God's people.
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The quotes above are direct quotes from the ten commandments. Are you seriously saying that God told Adam and Eve that He rescued them from slavery in Egypt? How would that make any sense?

Are you seriously telling people that they should obey some of the Law of Moses, but not all of it, in direct contradiction of what Jesus said in Matthew 5:17-19?

Christians aren't supposed to live under the Law of Moses, because that's what the bible says. You are removing parts from the Law of Moses, and changing other parts. For example, food laws were binding on the Israelites, as God commanded. God didn't command "all God's people" to obey those laws. You shouldn't change God's commandments to match what you want to believe, and then tell Christians to obey your modified laws.
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Absolutely not, Kill. This is my land. Kill everyone who doesn't believe in christ or mohammad. God id next.
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Alright, but the High Priest and the Law of Moses are not the same as God's 10C law, that was never done away with. We are told exactly what was 'nailed to the cross' in Col 2:14 the "handwriting of the law" that is the Law of Moses performed in the temple, since Jesus was the final sacrifice. Since then Christians have been under grace directly through Christ Jesus with no need for any temple services.
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The Law of Moses is all the laws in the first five books of the bible, the books that Moses wrote. That includes the 10 commandments. You can't even get through the first commandment without it being obvious that God was commanding the Israelites, not the Christians.

I am the Lord thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage.
(Deuteronomy 5:6)

Christians weren't rescued from slavery in Egypt, that was the Israelites.

And remember that thou wast a servant in the land of Egypt, and that the Lord thy God brought thee out thence through a mighty hand and by a stretched out arm: therefore the Lord thy God commanded thee to keep the sabbath day.
(Deuteronomy 5:15)

Christians weren't slaves in Egypt, and God didn't rescue the Christians from slavery in Egypt. That was the Israelites.

You can't change the 10 commandments to make them apply to Christians.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28565984



The Law of Moses was an actual book of laws written by Moses as dictated by God. God's 10C Law was written by God's finger in stone. They are two different things. God's 10C Law tables of stone was placed in the Ark of the Covenant which the book of Moses' law was placed in the side of the Ark.

God's 10C Law has been from creation. Cain murdered Abel. The 7th day Sabbath, ect. They are all there from creation. The passages in Ex & Duet are when Israel were reminded of God's 10C Law.

Not all of the Law of Moses was 'nailed to the cross' either. Only that described in Col 2:14-17, the sacrificial temple services. The food laws for instance are still binding for all God's people.
 Quoting: - 14012564


The quotes above are direct quotes from the ten commandments. Are you seriously saying that God told Adam and Eve that He rescued them from slavery in Egypt? How would that make any sense?

Are you seriously telling people that they should obey some of the Law of Moses, but not all of it, in direct contradiction of what Jesus said in Matthew 5:17-19?

Christians aren't supposed to live under the Law of Moses, because that's what the bible says. You are removing parts from the Law of Moses, and changing other parts. For example, food laws were binding on the Israelites, as God commanded. God didn't command "all God's people" to obey those laws. You shouldn't change God's commandments to match what you want to believe, and then tell Christians to obey your modified laws.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28565984



God's people follow the entire Bible cover to cover. God's law has been from the very beginning. He only wrote it in stone for the Hebrews coming out of Egypt to remind them of his law since they had been in slavery all those years and forgotten.

Again ALL of the law applies to God's people, except that which was fulfilled by Jesus - the temple services (Col 2:14-17)

This is what is meant when we read the Law of Moses is of no more effect - the temple services.

Many verses say God's people will be keeping his law and this is required for salvation i.e. central to the mark of the beast (Rev 14:9-12).
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God's people follow the entire Bible cover to cover. God's law has been from the very beginning. He only wrote it in stone for the Hebrews coming out of Egypt to remind them of his law since they had been in slavery all those years and forgotten.

Again ALL of the law applies to God's people, except that which was fulfilled by Jesus - the temple services (Col 2:14-17)

This is what is meant when we read the Law of Moses is of no more effect - the temple services.

Many verses say God's people will be keeping his law and this is required for salvation i.e. central to the mark of the beast (Rev 14:9-12).
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The old covenant says all the priests must be Levites, including the high priest. The new covenant says that Jesus Christ is High Priest, but He is not a Levite (see Hebrews chapter 7). The new covenant says all Christians are priests, and the vast majority are not Levites. So which priesthood laws are you going to follow, old covenant or new covenant? You can't follow both, because they are not the same and not compatible with each other.

Which ten commandments are you obeying? Is it the ten commandments in the bible? Here is a direct quote from the ten commandments:

And remember that thou wast a servant in the land of Egypt, and that the Lord thy God brought thee out thence through a mighty hand and by a stretched out arm: therefore the Lord thy God commanded thee to keep the sabbath day.
(Deuteronomy 5:15)

Adam and Eve were not slaves in Egypt, and were not rescued from slavery in Egypt. How does it make any sense to say that God told them that they were?

It was the Israelites who were rescued from Egypt, not the Christians, not everybody in the world, not "all God's people". Only the Israelites were rescued from slavery in Egypt by God.

The bible even says straight out that this covenant was only made with the Israelites, not with their ancestors:

The Lord made not this covenant with our fathers, but with us, even us, who are all of us here alive this day.
(Deuteronomy 5:3)
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Re: why am i a christian if jesus was a jew
What does being a jew have to do with it, you choose to be a christian because you need to be told how to think and feel because you cant on your own.
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Out of this ugliness may come,
Some day, so beautiful a flower,
That men will wonder at that hour,
Remembering smoke and flowerless slum,
And ask-glimpsing the agony
Of the slaves who wrestle to be free-
'But why were all the poets dumb?'
-William Montgomerie

So many gods, so many creeds,
So many paths that wind and wind,
While just the art of being kind
Is all the sad world needs.
-Ella Wheeler Wilcox
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Re: why am i a christian if jesus was a jew
I have no idea what you guys are talking about
Don't care how many Scriptures you copied and pasted of something you regurgitated from someone else WE ARE STILL LOST CHILDREN

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