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Hello i have been watching that show Doomsday Prep.....Lol ok some of the things they mention are ok but in case of real emergency here's what you need to have and some people do not have a ton of money to blow on AR-15's or 1911's so heres the list.

1. Maps and knowledge of terrain in your area, take a drive and find secluded areas and observe for water sources, farms if any, resources and animal life because if you are forced to move you need food and water and look for high ground because its easy to defend positions.Mark everything on your map and remember land marks.

2. Medical supplies and basic field medicine nothing fancy just bandages, pain killers and directions on how to treat cuts and bites from animals and insects. For those taking children and old people triple your med supply if they need it but it will be hard to cope with loss since many Americans need medications and will die without it so start thinking about that.

3. Portable water filter or if you can't get one filter threw a bucket of sand heat water to kill off any bacteria remaining especially for children. For those that live in the deserts of AZ keep a eye on where wildlife goes they always know where water is and you also have a source of meat too. Pick up a book on skinning animals and how to prepare it you don't need a 300 dollar knife i used razor blades to gut and skin and a box has about 1000 of them they
come in handy i promise you.

4. So far as weapons are concerned you can't go wrong with a .22 LR for multipurpose its quiet and ammo is very cheap. The best way to say it is KISS or keep it simple stupid so far as shotguns a pump action is great for close range but it has moving parts so a single shot is the best since in the field you will find ammo and inserts can be bought online in 9mm, 45, 38 ect that can be fired from the shotgun. So far as having a ton of guns its's fine but if your community knows about your stash your a target and will
have visitors. Rifles kept should be a AK-47 or a SKS type very simple to use and very reliable in my experience the guy with the 2000 dollar gets killed first. I cannot stress enough to practice practice practice. Marines and Army have to constantly keep up with practice if you have any friends who are prior service ask questions and advice on how to calculate distance, trajectory and wind variables. I keep a very simple semi-auto 45 1911 for carry trust me when you sleep at night it feels good knowing whatever comes will be killed with 1 or 2 shots and it being a service arm for over 70 years means that its a reliable design. Field pickups will come so don't stress on having the biggest baddest gun just focus on what you can hit the target with and you will be good to go.

5. Batteries will die and you will have no light so invest in a crank operated flashlight they sell them at Walmart for 15 dollars so far as making fire keep a box of Bic lighters
and when that runs out keep a flint spark set birds nests are the best when starting a fire and if all else fails i have used a magnifying glass in winter to start a fire in the field its time consuming but it works.

Everything you need should fit in a canvas bag bought from a Army Navy surplus store millers in AZ and cheaper then dirt have them for 25 to 40 dollars keep the go bag stocked and add as needed so far as ammo avoid keeping loose ammo i have had rounds go bad because of temp changes and worse thing you can have is a squib round go off and get stuck in the barrel....but if this happens always use a wooden dowel or wrap a metal rod with electrical tape and unjam in the direction from the rear not doing so can ruin the guns rifling. There are many more things to say but if anyone here want's to chip in say what you suggest maybe this will come in handy to someone and remember its the little things that matter when it comes to survival.
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I made my plan according to terrain and geographical location in AZ so anyone that lives near the coast or wooded areas i would love to hear what your plans are.
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I made my plan according to terrain and geographical location in AZ
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Az has two sources, water and electricity, and with that many of the farms will are able to be kept producing food and meats. The water runs through the hoover damn. If you know anything you know that the hoover damn will be one of the last electrical stations to fail. It will not be able to suport the whole grid, but it will give enough electricity to the surounding areas to suport a good amount of people.
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50W light bulb from a plastic water bottle! - Wut?
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Oh yeah i know about hoover dam of course but i have noticed that under immediate problems the Government will limit the hell out of it's use and eventually it will be only used for continuity of government so that the fat cats can have AC and water for themselves. But in any case there are some people that will try to either damage or just plain screw things up for everyone else because misery loves company.
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In any case i would avoid large areas and city's last Friday i took my son to Walmart to get a glimpse of what people will act like if things got really bad his jaw dropped!!! everything was coming off the shelves people fighting over everything security everywhere and i told him that's why daddy has a plan so that we don't have to put up with this in the future. Its good to familiarize your kids with how and what to do because its a strong possibility that you might not make it.
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Oh yeah i know about hoover dam of course but i have noticed that under immediate problems the Government will limit the hell out of it's use and eventually it will be only used for continuity of government so that the fat cats can have AC and water for themselves. But in any case there are some people that will try to either damage or just plain screw things up for everyone else because misery loves company.
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AZ controls the West. What are you ramping about in this post? Hoover, ha, I have a vacuum I call him hoover. It is a generation thing-y. wut
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In any case i would avoid large areas and city's last Friday i took my son to Walmart to get a glimpse of what people will act like if things got really bad his jaw dropped!!! everything was coming off the shelves people fighting over everything security everywhere and i told him that's why daddy has a plan so that we don't have to put up with this in the future. Its good to familiarize your kids with how and what to do because its a strong possibility that you might not make it.
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Oh yeah i know about hoover dam of course but i have noticed that under immediate problems the Government will limit the hell out of it's use and eventually it will be only used for continuity of government so that the fat cats can have AC and water for themselves. But in any case there are some people that will try to either damage or just plain screw things up for everyone else because misery loves company.
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Do you think they will intentionally blow the dam? I read that sceanerio somewhere. Maybe it was terriorist.
If you woke up breathing, you have another chance!
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Oh yeah i know about hoover dam of course but i have noticed that under immediate problems the Government will limit the hell out of it's use and eventually it will be only used for continuity of government so that the fat cats can have AC and water for themselves. But in any case there are some people that will try to either damage or just plain screw things up for everyone else because misery loves company.
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Do you think they will intentionally blow the dam? I read that sceanerio somewhere. Maybe it was terriorist.
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Beggin for trouble.
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Oh yeah i know about hoover dam of course but i have noticed that under immediate problems the Government will limit the hell out of it's use and eventually it will be only used for continuity of government so that the fat cats can have AC and water for themselves. But in any case there are some people that will try to either damage or just plain screw things up for everyone else because misery loves company.
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Do you think they will intentionally blow the dam? I read that sceanerio somewhere. Maybe it was terriorist.
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I hope they don't but its a strong possibility if they wanted to "Flush" out any resistance in the area. Point is that never depend on any resources being there forever most native tribes knew this and traveled with animal migrations to survive. Oh and money will be pretty much useless i have been perfecting my reloading skills at home in the case of total collapse ammunition will be the new currency and there are lots of empty brass casings everywhere i pick up lots when i go shooting in AZ and clean them up and reload what is in good condition.
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[link to www.animatedsoftware.com]

These come in handy to know where and what to avoid in case of a leak or meltdown or in the case of hover dam and water contamination including nuclear waste and resources that might be not safe to use.
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[link to www.missilethreat.com]

Hover dam is a target in any attack from another country here is the scenario.
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In all honesty i hope nothing happens at all...after 4 years in the military and seeing what happens overseas and here in the USA its a shame that we even put up with what our government makes soldiers, airmen, marines and sailors do i can say that almost 80 percent of people fighting each other would rather not but when our leaders make war its always the ones on the bottom of the totem pole that carry the weight for everyone else. One thing that i know is that we have the power to stop this and the elite know that when the people stand up and demand there rights they will be in serious trouble.
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In all honesty i hope nothing happens at all...after 4 years in the military and seeing what happens overseas and here in the USA its a shame that we even put up with what our government makes soldiers, airmen, marines and sailors do i can say that almost 80 percent of people fighting each other would rather not but when our leaders make war its always the ones on the bottom of the totem pole that carry the weight for everyone else. One thing that i know is that we have the power to stop this and the elite know that when the people stand up and demand there rights they will be in serious trouble.
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Read the book called the "Secret" Fantastic (terrible) book. Stop dwelling on the negative. Your energy should be put to use, greater than the hoover damn. Just saying.
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In all honesty i hope nothing happens at all...after 4 years in the military and seeing what happens overseas and here in the USA its a shame that we even put up with what our government makes soldiers, airmen, marines and sailors do i can say that almost 80 percent of people fighting each other would rather not but when our leaders make war its always the ones on the bottom of the totem pole that carry the weight for everyone else. One thing that i know is that we have the power to stop this and the elite know that when the people stand up and demand there rights they will be in serious trouble.
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Plant a seed, it will grow.
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In all honesty i hope nothing happens at all...after 4 years in the military and seeing what happens overseas and here in the USA its a shame that we even put up with what our government makes soldiers, airmen, marines and sailors do i can say that almost 80 percent of people fighting each other would rather not but when our leaders make war its always the ones on the bottom of the totem pole that carry the weight for everyone else. One thing that i know is that we have the power to stop this and the elite know that when the people stand up and demand there rights they will be in serious trouble.
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Plant a seed, it will grow.
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into a bud into a flower. War is all around us, why incite another?
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In all honesty i hope nothing happens at all...after 4 years in the military and seeing what happens overseas and here in the USA its a shame that we even put up with what our government makes soldiers, airmen, marines and sailors do i can say that almost 80 percent of people fighting each other would rather not but when our leaders make war its always the ones on the bottom of the totem pole that carry the weight for everyone else. One thing that i know is that we have the power to stop this and the elite know that when the people stand up and demand there rights they will be in serious trouble.
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Read the book called the "Secret" Fantastic (terrible) book. Stop dwelling on the negative. Your energy should be put to use, greater than the hoover damn. Just saying.
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I just wish we had a president that says lets focus on our country first before handing out aid to everyone else!!! you can't help others if you can't help yourself first. We rebuild and feed everyone else but when we have a problem here people get the shaft just like Sandy.
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Pubic hair is not just a biological accident that forces us to the waxing salon. It serves three critical functions. First, it protects the delicate vagina. Second, it serves as a reproductive billboard to alert potential mates that you are biologically (if not emotionally) prepared to procreate. And last, it's a pheromone carpet and traps the scents that lead potential mates to the promised land. So you might think twice before you shave it all off. It's there for a reason. Embrace it.

There are 8000 nerve endings in the clitoris, dedicated exclusively to female pleasure. The penis only has 4000. Who says God didn't take care of us girls?
The average vagina is 3-4 inches long, but fear not if your guy is hung like a horse. The vagina can expand by 200% when sexually aroused, kind of like a balloon. Remember, the vagina was made to birth babies, so it's exceedingly elastic. If you have pain when getting it on with someone large, you can use dilators to help stretch the vagina so you can accommodate the whole package.

The vagina doesn't connect to the lung. While the vagina can expand, it's not an open conduit to the abdominal cavity. While microscopic sperm can swim through a tiny hole in the cervix, a tampon simply won't fit. So if you lose something in there, don't worry. Reach in all the way and pull it out. Do not -- I repeat, do not -- go hunting for whatever you've lost with a pair of pliers. Think of your vagina as being like a sock. If you lose a banana in a sock...it stays in the sock.

Yes, it's true -- your vagina can fall out. Not to belabor the sock metaphor, but it can turn inside out just like a worn out sweat sock and hang between your legs as you get older. But don't fret; this condition -- called pelvic prolapse -- can be fixed.

Vaginas have something in common with sharks. Both contain squalene, a substance that exists in both shark livers and natural vaginal lubricant. (Cue music: "She's a maneater...")

You can catch sexually transmitted diseases even if you use a condom. Sorry to break it to you, but the skin of the vulva can still touch infectious skin of the scrotum -- and BAM! Warts. Herpes. Molluscum contagiosum. Pubic lice. So pick your partners carefully.

The average length of the labia minora is less than ¾ inch long (yes, someone got out a ruler and measured 2981 women). Only 1.8% of women have labia longer than 1 ½ inches. But remember, every vulva is different and special. Some lips hang down. Some are tucked up neatly inside. Some are long. Some are short. Some are even. Some aren't. All are beautiful. You're perfect just the way you are.

While hair on your head can live up to seven years, pubic hair has a life expectancy of about three weeks, which is why it only grows so long. So don't worry if you opt not to groom your pubes -- you won't need to braid them any time soon.

The word "vagina" comes from the Latin root meaning "sheath for a sword," which may explain why some women simply hate the word. So if you don't like the word "vagina," pick your own name for your girly parts. Just call it something and don't be afraid to talk about it.

Only about 30% of women have orgasms from intercourse alone. The clitoris is where the action is. Most women who do orgasm during sex have figured out how to hit their sweet spot, either from positioning or from direct stimulation of the clitoris with fingers.

Increasing evidence suggests that the G spot feels good because it lies right over a deep part of the clitoris. Although experts describe the G spot as being inside the vagina on the anterior wall, just under the urethra, the crura of the clitoris actually runs right there. And a recent study demonstrated that vaginal orgasms may actually be deep clitoral orgasms. But who cares? An orgasm is an orgasm. Appreciate it, regardless of where it comes from.

Vaginal farts (some call them "queefs" or "varts") happen to almost all women at one time or another, especially during sex or other forms of exercise. So don't be embarrassed if your hooha lets out a toot. You're perfectly normal.
Some women do ejaculate during orgasm, but you're normal if you don't. The controversial "female ejaculation" most likely represents two different phenomena. If it's a small amount of milky fluid, it likely comes from the paraurethral glands inside the urethra. If it's a cup, it's probably pee. Many times, it may be a little bit of both. But don't stress out about peeing on yourself. Put a towel under you and surrender to the experience.

Safe sex (or even just orgasm alone) is good for you. Benefits include lowering your risk of heart disease and stroke, reducing your risk of breast cancer, bolstering your immune system, helping you sleep, making you appear more youthful, improving your fitness, regulating menstrual cycles, relieving menstrual cramps, helping with chronic pain, reducing the risk of depression, lowering stress levels, and improving self esteem. So go at it, girlfriends!
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In all honesty i hope nothing happens at all...after 4 years in the military and seeing what happens overseas and here in the USA its a shame that we even put up with what our government makes soldiers, airmen, marines and sailors do i can say that almost 80 percent of people fighting each other would rather not but when our leaders make war its always the ones on the bottom of the totem pole that carry the weight for everyone else. One thing that i know is that we have the power to stop this and the elite know that when the people stand up and demand there rights they will be in serious trouble.
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Plant a seed, it will grow.
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into a bud into a flower. War is all around us, why incite another?
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I am growing a garden and I need some help.
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Pubic hair is not just a biological accident that forces us to the waxing salon. It serves three critical functions. First, it protects the delicate vagina. Second, it serves as a reproductive billboard to alert potential mates that you are biologically (if not emotionally) prepared to procreate. And last, it's a pheromone carpet and traps the scents that lead potential mates to the promised land. So you might think twice before you shave it all off. It's there for a reason. Embrace it.

There are 8000 nerve endings in the clitoris, dedicated exclusively to female pleasure. The penis only has 4000. Who says God didn't take care of us girls?
The average vagina is 3-4 inches long, but fear not if your guy is hung like a horse. The vagina can expand by 200% when sexually aroused, kind of like a balloon. Remember, the vagina was made to birth babies, so it's exceedingly elastic. If you have pain when getting it on with someone large, you can use dilators to help stretch the vagina so you can accommodate the whole package.

The vagina doesn't connect to the lung. While the vagina can expand, it's not an open conduit to the abdominal cavity. While microscopic sperm can swim through a tiny hole in the cervix, a tampon simply won't fit. So if you lose something in there, don't worry. Reach in all the way and pull it out. Do not -- I repeat, do not -- go hunting for whatever you've lost with a pair of pliers. Think of your vagina as being like a sock. If you lose a banana in a sock...it stays in the sock.

Yes, it's true -- your vagina can fall out. Not to belabor the sock metaphor, but it can turn inside out just like a worn out sweat sock and hang between your legs as you get older. But don't fret; this condition -- called pelvic prolapse -- can be fixed.

Vaginas have something in common with sharks. Both contain squalene, a substance that exists in both shark livers and natural vaginal lubricant. (Cue music: "She's a maneater...")

You can catch sexually transmitted diseases even if you use a condom. Sorry to break it to you, but the skin of the vulva can still touch infectious skin of the scrotum -- and BAM! Warts. Herpes. Molluscum contagiosum. Pubic lice. So pick your partners carefully.

The average length of the labia minora is less than ¾ inch long (yes, someone got out a ruler and measured 2981 women). Only 1.8% of women have labia longer than 1 ½ inches. But remember, every vulva is different and special. Some lips hang down. Some are tucked up neatly inside. Some are long. Some are short. Some are even. Some aren't. All are beautiful. You're perfect just the way you are.

While hair on your head can live up to seven years, pubic hair has a life expectancy of about three weeks, which is why it only grows so long. So don't worry if you opt not to groom your pubes -- you won't need to braid them any time soon.

The word "vagina" comes from the Latin root meaning "sheath for a sword," which may explain why some women simply hate the word. So if you don't like the word "vagina," pick your own name for your girly parts. Just call it something and don't be afraid to talk about it.

Only about 30% of women have orgasms from intercourse alone. The clitoris is where the action is. Most women who do orgasm during sex have figured out how to hit their sweet spot, either from positioning or from direct stimulation of the clitoris with fingers.

Increasing evidence suggests that the G spot feels good because it lies right over a deep part of the clitoris. Although experts describe the G spot as being inside the vagina on the anterior wall, just under the urethra, the crura of the clitoris actually runs right there. And a recent study demonstrated that vaginal orgasms may actually be deep clitoral orgasms. But who cares? An orgasm is an orgasm. Appreciate it, regardless of where it comes from.

Vaginal farts (some call them "queefs" or "varts") happen to almost all women at one time or another, especially during sex or other forms of exercise. So don't be embarrassed if your hooha lets out a toot. You're perfectly normal.
Some women do ejaculate during orgasm, but you're normal if you don't. The controversial "female ejaculation" most likely represents two different phenomena. If it's a small amount of milky fluid, it likely comes from the paraurethral glands inside the urethra. If it's a cup, it's probably pee. Many times, it may be a little bit of both. But don't stress out about peeing on yourself. Put a towel under you and surrender to the experience.

Safe sex (or even just orgasm alone) is good for you. Benefits include lowering your risk of heart disease and stroke, reducing your risk of breast cancer, bolstering your immune system, helping you sleep, making you appear more youthful, improving your fitness, regulating menstrual cycles, relieving menstrual cramps, helping with chronic pain, reducing the risk of depression, lowering stress levels, and improving self esteem. So go at it, girlfriends!
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I love women and there parts but......WTF.....lol thank's for making me laugh man.
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Is this what they call trolling? A gynecologist? Sicko pervert, ?

We all know about public speakers. Laryngitis is bacterial and obviously Mabus is long winded.
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I once had a squib round go off and was out in the desert and was just so dam pissed because i drove all the way out there to have that happen. So i took the gun apart and used my trucks antenna and some tape from the glove box and gently used a rock to tap the end to get the round out. It took forever but it worked....lol that was the last time i used tula from walmart my bad for being a cheap ass...lol
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I once had a squib round go off and was out in the desert and was just so dam pissed because i drove all the way out there to have that happen. So i took the gun apart and used my trucks antenna and some tape from the glove box and gently used a rock to tap the end to get the round out. It took forever but it worked....lol that was the last time i used tula from walmart my bad for being a cheap ass...lol
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Moral of the story always have a tool kit in the car!!!!!
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Tula is ok for AK 47's and sks rifles but pistol ammo your better off using Remington or Winchester. Part of that problem is that the primers are harder on tula's regular remington uses boxer primers that go off easy. Rule of thumb is if its chinese or russian your ok with everything but higher end use good ammo. Guns are like women in the sense that the more pretty it is its higher the cost to keep it happy. The so-so chick is always there and goes "bang" whenever you need it....lol
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Goodnight. Seems all the morons and loosers and liers are the only ones present on the boards tonight.

Hoe some of you make it through life is beyond me.

Goodluck. Your going to need it.

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