What type of monster God sends my loved ones into hell...

I'm a Christian .....I read the Bible so I know what it says and what it doesn't

The scripture you posted doesn't say that if you don't accept Jesus Christ as your Saviour that you will fry in hell .....it doesn't and you will never find that teaching in the Bible ....

What you are saved from is judgement in the afterlife at the white throne judgement .....The Apostle Paul said that the saints will judge the world ......when you accept Jesus as your Saviour you sins are covered by the blood of Christ and when you make a mistake after that a and you ask God for forgivness then the Blood covers that too .....so the saints(Christians) are innocent and spotless before God and Jesus and the saints will judge the world ....they will judge everyone single human that never accepted Christ as their Saviour and all of the people that didnt follow Gods program before Jesus paid the ultimate sacrifice....

About those people that lived before Jesus came ....lets say some man hat lived in Germania in 200 b.c.........how wil he be judged ? .....he never even heard of Jehovah ....

The Bible cleary state how all the people at the white throne judgement will be judged ......if you want to know then go read how Jesus Christ himself said that every unbeliever willi be judged in Matt 25 .....also go read revelations 20 and it says again how the entire world be be judged .....

It's says that all will be judged according to their works

Remember .....the saints (true Christians)....that prayed the prayer of repentance aren't judged in the afterlife....they are judged worthy on this side because they are covered by he blood of Christ .....there is nothing to judge ...they are innocent

BTW a bible is not a rule book!

Bibles are used in programation too!

They are meere REFERENCE manual to Explain the Limitations of All sections/ percpectives.

Mainly bibles only tell who what the program can do and what is the range of it!

Bibles are usefull only if you PLAN on using the specified program!

This is a pretty fun site to read.
[link to www.evilbible.com]

Edit: Just to point out the most interesting part in there:
(I'm going to use the first 'holy bible' pdf I find in Google).

[link to www.ulc.org]

Biblical Contradictions:

God is satisfied with his works
Gen 1:31

And
God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, [it was]
very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth
day.


God is dissatisfied with his works.
Gen 6:6

And
it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth,
and it grieved him at his heart.


You happy?

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God is dissatisfied with his works.
Gen 6:6

And
it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth,
and it grieved him at his heart.


You happy?


I started to read the site you posted ......it said in judges 21 that God told them to kidnap women and to force ably rape them.....

I went and read judges 21 .....first off God didn't command them to do anything ...... the council of men came up with the plan ....

Secondly .....it didnt not say for them to rape anyone .....

I can't stand it when people lie to try and prove a point .... I stopped reading right then

God is dissatisfied with his works.
Gen 6:6

And
it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth,
and it grieved him at his heart.


You happy?


You have no idea what you are talking about .....

God created man perfect ....when he created them perfect ....he was pleased

After man made choices will the freedom of choice God gave them .....
The choices they made were evil and it displeased God.

Evasion... my favorite and most repeating thing in these kind of conversations...

Evasion?...I didn't evade you....I know exactly why God had his people kill other people in the Old Testament but not after Jesus Christ ....do you want to hear why?

TROLL
Christian basher. Needless. Times are hard enuf.

Why don't you go to a church and ask - coward? Or is it safer to attack people from behind your keyboard?

Bingo!

You are a wicked deceiver, intentionally trying to mislead people to damnation
by telling them their works will be save them without faith in Jesus Christ.

Not once in your original post did you mention God's truth, which is that
salvation is purely, and only by grace through faith (Eph. 2:8) in the Lord
Jesus Christ.

Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under
heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved. (Acts 4:12)



Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water
and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. (John 3:5)

Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh
unto the Father, but by me. (John 14:6)

I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not
that I am he, ye shall die in your sins. (John 8:24)

He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not
shall be damned. (Mark 16:16)

Sighhhhhhh..........At least a few of us on here see past this whole duality thing..."my god is better than your god crap"........"believe me or die"....."repent or fry"...at times like this makes me want snatch a few of them up and show them show them what the "other side" is really like so they would shut up about things "they" know nothing of.....(rant off)..... :\

Let mankind now know that not all scriptures are as they once were that the devil alters things through infulencing of man and that he wanted to deplict God as a tyrant to turn people against us. let ye know this God shall never tell one to kill another for by eternal law that soul becomes condemned. God through his Son whom is also God did not suffer aeons to pay debts of sin just to condemn people. People were all already condemned it is in Gods love that intervention occured to repay spiritual debt that goes beyond even this life.

I am in the authority of the most High with power to act on earth and soon shall, let nations know in day of shaking when world war breaks out and thunder and lightning lights the skys the end tribulation has began for the seals will be broken. Desolation will be the beginning many are taken in that day and night, for not all are even worthy of tribulation some the devil takes early. Let those whom survive know that famine, desease and war will fill the world in those times even so natural disasters shall come like mankind has never seen.

Know this that Justice is part of good therefore all evil done must be repaid based on eternal law based on it specific consequence, in this way in end the wrath is unleashed to offer the spirits opportuntiy to pay karmatic debt, for without this time to come of sorrows those spirits would be taken into the underworld when the mouth of hell opens upon the end.

See the time of sorrows as a last chance of redemption for surely many shall be saved by their suffering which humbles them unto repentence. But as many as are saved more shall be lost for wickedness shall abound the world in those times and woe unto the unbeliever for a day comes that demonic spirits shall hold all rights to possess the flesh and then surely the prophecy of world has become a dwelling for devils is fulfilled.

Mankind has been given much longer than they know this is has been going on for much longer than even this earth has existed. The atonement is much more than even Christians are aware and has universal importance. In end those saved shall know what was done for them to be saved and be eternall grateful and those condemned shall know what opportuntiy they missed out on and be in eternal guilt and shame. A eternity is spent but forever is only for some, some will be unleashed and forgiven after a times time they may avoid the second death but surely they will suffer for all spiritual debt this is the law eternal that governments all forces of good and evil, there is no way around it and both Devi and God follow these laws.

You are not god. God is God.

For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his
deeds should be reproved. (John 3:20)

This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that
God is light, and in him is no darkness at all. (1 John 1:5)

unintelligible preaching in which not once did I read salvation is only by faith
in the Lord Jesus Christ

God says every Word of scripture is pure (Prov. 30:5).

I believe God (Rom. 4:3).

God is superior to His creation, including the devil. If God says His Word is
pure, and He does, then it is.

The cliff, gravity and jagged rocks below are all created by God. Yet when a person jumps off the cliff and is killed, God is blamed for the cliff, gravity and the jagged rocks?

This "hell" is a kinetic structure the individual CHOOSES to participate in. God keeps telling everyone to not jump off the cliff but we choose to anyways.

This kind [link to www.youtube.com] and
[link to www.youtube.com]

Last Edited by stars on 11/28/2012 04:21 PM

hehehhe......Don't put words in my mouth claiming I said that......nowhere in my post did I claim the be god or the "God" but I have been on the other side and you have not....so don't try to tell me what I know and don't know...

So what was your experience on the other side? I just keep getting recycled, but as life went on I found out why. The Lord works in mysterious ways. Crashed a helicopter in Korea, died, next thing I knew, I was living in NYC.

Last Edited by stars on 11/28/2012 12:26 PM

Its not if you are good or bad, You just have to KNOW Jesus Christ..

If you would read the HOLY BIBLE and understand then you would not ask such a question. It is not that GOD wants any to suffer. It is mankind who reject the promise given at the CROSS that JESUS died taking on our sins. GOD raised HIM from the dead as proving that promise. "HE WHO BELIEVES IN ME EVEN THO HE WERE DEAD YET SHALL HE LIVE"!By rejecting GOD WE condemn ourselves to HELL. LOVE THY NEIHBOR AS THYSELF is the golden rule! I asked GOD once what HE wanted of ME and opened the BIBLE to a direct answer. IN MICAH 6,8 it says LOVE JUSTICE< LOVE MERCY AND LOVE THY NEIHBOR AS THYSELF!When We reject GOD and live our lives after the flesh as the world does HE will not stop us. HE will reject those that rejected HIM. Do not call GOD a monster when HE is reaching out to us every moment of our lives until their is no hope of redemtion in us. Then HE will just stop reaching at some point because We keep slapping away HIS HAND. May I offer this, that you stop listening to those that reject GOD and will lead you astray and study THE HOLY WORD OF GOD!

The reincarnation thing gets old after awhile....having your memories wiped before you incarnate here....Earth can be a school or a prison....we get to choose that.....but most folks are TOO AFRAID to take responsibilty for their life and spiritual life....The only person judging you on the other side is......YOU......

It's only temporary, and they only go if they're really, really mean, horrible, nasty people. Period. So don't worry! The Bible says that God wills that none should perish, but all have everlasting life. God wills it, it WILL happen!

Jesus Christ, the Creator of all, defines good and bad, not you.

You happy?


I started to read the site you posted ......it said in judges 21 that God told them to kidnap women and to force ably rape them.....

I went and read judges 21 .....first off God didn't command them to do anything ...... the council of men came up with the plan ....

Secondly .....it didnt not say for them to rape anyone .....

I can't stand it when people lie to try and prove a point .... I stopped reading right then


That's not God, that was an ancient astronaut (who called himself "Yahweh" and fooled many, many people).

either one believes God, or one believes they are a living god

those in the latter category don't like their belief being made manifest

For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light,
lest his deeds should be reproved. (John 3:20)

Nowhere in my post did I say or imply I was a god or the "GOD"......You made that assumption....not me....I asked you if you had been on the other side....You did not reply to that part of the question..... :/

This one: :monster:

for myself,
it seems a long journey.

so much to learn along the way.

wonderful enlightened people to talk to. and share ideas with.

everyone is the hero of their own story, has beliefs that are valid.

and most live to their highest good.

would it not be better to have as many friends to help you on the way as possible?

is anything really gained by threats? being inflexible ? trashing each other?

best of luck to everyone. it's almost Christmas!

I was a lost soul before being saved by the power and grace of the Lord Jesus Christ

by your statements, you necessarily believe that you are your own living god

your failed attempt at cleverness in trying to hide behind the notion that you
did not actually say it, does nothing to change the fact

prove it's not true, explain yourself, rather than chirping about how you didn't
actually say this or that and then tucking