What type of monster God sends my loved ones into hell...

Everyone is constantly provided guidance. It is rare indeed that one quiets the constant roar of hedonism, ego, and sensualities to be able to participate in the Communion. God does not change, the Torch is constant and always before us. Yet we choose to look away and hear not.

God gives everyone a choice. He doesn't force anyone to do anything..... your choice. Accept Him or reject Him.
Be saved today. Accept the sovereignty of Jesus in your life, or reject Him.
There's the path to eternal salvation and the path to Hell.
God is a gentleman; He gives everyone the choice.

Hell is not a biblical idea. Go to the orginal hebrew, aramaic, and greek.

Also the word for eternal in every reference to hell is actual anaoin which mean "for an age"

Eternal hell is not in the bible. It's a big lie cooked up by the byzantines.

All punishment is meant for refinement and redemption. The words for torment actually translate to refinement.

The God of Heaven who wants you to atleast remember his name.

According to the Holy Scriptures, there is a hell.
In Luke 16, hades is described as a place of torment.
The paradise section of hades as described in Luke 16 was transferred to God's presence when Jesus was resurrected.
In Revelation, it is very clear that the beast, the false prophet and all those who are not written in the Book of Life (those who have made Jesus their Lord and Saviour), Revelation 20:14,15 "And death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. ..... "And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire."

Rev 20;10 "And the devil who deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are also; and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever." Can't be any clearer than that. You can call it whatever you want: God calls it a lake of fire and brimstone.... a place of torment forever and ever
Call it hell; call it whatever you want. Believe it or disagree with the Creator God.

Luke 16:23-31 is something everyone should read. The place of torment is described. The rich man in Hades, being in torment wanted a taste of water to cool off his tongue; for he was "in agony in this flame."
Abraham responded to his request to have someone sent to his family to warn them, so that they would not end up in the PLACE OF TORMENT. Abraham, then, before the resurrection, in the paradise section, responded to him that he did not believe the prophets and Moses (no one has an excuse....we have the Scriptures....) then they would not be persuaded if someone returns from the dead and warns them.
No one has an excuse; God makes certain that everyone knows the Way. Reject it or accept it. I urge you:
be saved today.

Hell is a religious invention.

nope not seventh day adventist. Christians aren't under the sabbath law. I don't even know what they believe other than sabbath.
I'm just familiar with the Bible and I know the eternal torture version of hell isn't in there. Hell is simply the grave.

So we agree that when every knee bows and every tongue confesses Him, it will be a voluntary gesture of their own choosing, yes? Problem solved. Redemption for all, and not one drop wasted.

If this were a literal account of afterlife, the most obvious question is why is the Rich Man having a conversation instead of screaming uncontrollably? He's on fire. Secondly, why does he request a mere fingertip of water? And for his tongue? If his tongue is the first thing he wants extinguished, how is he even speaking? How does he even have a tongue? If he's dead, his inanimate body is lying motionless in some kind of grave.

What were his sins? Jesus never tells us, so it doesn't make for a very legitimate warning. He merely says the guy was well-dressed and well-fed, criteria which actually apply to most American christians.

Our rich guy here is Judah, with five brothers. The whole chapter is about stewardship - the accountability of the priesthood for what they did with what they were given. They failed severely, setting themselves up a nice little racket instead of blessing the people.

Meanwhile, some say that the Lazarus of the story is actually a reference to Abraham's steward Eliezar, who faithfully worked himself out of Abe's inheritance by obtaining a bride for Isaac. He chose obedience to his master over personal gain - a major contrast with the Pharisees.

But, if it were somehow the same Lazarus who Jesus raised from the dead, why does the story show him as a beggar? His sister was apparently rich. . .she's the one who anointed Jesus with the ointment that cost something like a year's wages. Was she holding out on him? And their sister Martha owned a home, where she hosted Jesus at least once.

This story is a *parable*. Matthew 13 and Mark 4 both tell us that Jesus didn't teach without parables.


I understand being so deep into the religion that you don't dare question its encrusted doctrinal idols, but there is a Light at the end of the tunnel vision.

Post of the Year!

You are preaching heresy and ignoring the scriptures in favor of a Christ
you've created in your own mind.

Knowing therefore the terror of the Lord, we persuade men (2 Cor. 5:11)

The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his
kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; And shall cast
them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.
(Matt. 13:41-42)

For this is the day of the Lord God of hosts, a day of vengeance, that he may
avenge him of his adversaries: and the sword shall devour, and it shall be
satiate and made drunk with their blood (Jer. 46:10)

Q: Do souls *bleed*? Or is this verse perhaps about physical judgments upon nations?

if God takes such vengeance upon the flesh on earth, just imagine the vengeance
God takes upon the souls of all who reject the sacrifice of his son, Jesus Christ

other than that, your little observation is quite meaningful

It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God. (Heb. 10:31)

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What a blessing - the power of the carnal religious imagination. Like I tell people: to understand the ways of the Lord, you gotta dream up the sickest stuff you can think of, and then realize that it's even a million times worse than that ;)

If only we human parents loved our children enough to cook them when they rebel, like God does. . .

enjoy your time, just punishment from a Holy God awaits the wicked

The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. (Ps 14:1)

Just = the punishment fits the offense. It's plain as day in Exodus 21: an eye for an eye, tooth for tooth, and burn for burn. Yes, per God's own law, the only way someone could "earn" for themselves an eternity of endless burning is if they somehow burned people endlessly during life here on earth. I'm gonna go out on a limb and declare that I don't think that's even possible ;)

Jesus saves. Why don't you believe this?

Every time one has an unclean thought, looks at a woman with a lustful eye,
or cusses, one has broken God's holy laws. All sin is abomination unto God.

God's justice is different from man's. Jesus says non-believers will die in their
sins (John 8:24). Imagine having to pay the price demanded by a Holy God for
a lifetime of transgressing His holy laws.

Jesus preached about the reality and terrors of hell abundantly.

Do you believe you know better than Jesus how His true gospel
should be preached?

Agreed, no problems there



N/A. Christ paid for the sins of all. "And He Himself is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the whole world."
Note also that God says His ways are *higher* than ours, not lower. Humans are known for being overly judgmental, and not considering all the factors involved. God however, understands people's hearts, where they're at, what they've been through, etc. In contrast, Christers are not exactly famous for affording anyone any slack. Typically, we want blood and we want it now.

And He Himself is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the whole world.




Well, no, considering He's the one Who informed me that the churches' beloved Hellfire story is bullshit.

Your bible uses the English word "hell", but English didn't even exist when Jesus walked the earth. They put that noise in God's mouth after the fact, yet most of you seem to think the book floated down from the aether as-is upon the wings of cherubim. This mindset is unfortunately a definite roadblock to real understanding.

Jesus paid the price for all sins for all who believe in Him.

You are a deceiver intentionally glossing over this all important point,
spewing satan's heretical "Do What Thou Wilt" gospel.

Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of
water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. (John 3:5)

He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments,
is a liar, and the truth is not in him. (1 John 2:4)

all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire
and brimstone: which is the second death. (Rev. 21:8)

Rev. 21:8 is yet another verse wherein God's terrible punishment
for the wicked is revealed, which you deny in willful heresy.

And using the term "Christers"???

But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness,
but is in danger of eternal damnation. (Mark 3:29)

Ye shall know them by their fruits (Matt. 7:16)



Jesus Christ is the Word (John 1:1, 14). To deny the Word is to deny Christ (1 John 2:22).

You are claiming almighty God was incapable of facilitating a perfect
translation of His Word into English, and that God is lying when He says:

Every word of God is pure (Prov. 30:5)

Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar. (Prov. 30:6)

The spirit you claim "informed [you] that the churches' beloved Hellfire story
is bullshit" is contrary to Christ, the living Word, and is therefore a lie from
the spirit of antichrist (1 John 4:3).

Revilers will not inherit the kingdom of God (1 Cor. 6:10).

As a lying antichrist yourself as reproved by God (1 John 2:22),
you probably don't care.

The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. (Ps 14:1)

It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God. (Heb. 10:31)

that sounds more like George Bush if you ask me!

"Either your with US or your with the Terrorists"

The same one that invented the bbc.

Get an education! The original scriptures never uses
the word HELL.

One of the fake religions threw Hell in to control people.
The Bible says you go to your grave when you die.
Heaven is for a few and the Resurrection is the hope for many.

Stop blaming God for the devil's lie!

He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me
scattereth abroad. (Matt. 12:30)

Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? (Rom. 9:20)

I have made the earth, and created man upon it: I, even my hands, have
stretched out the heavens, and all their host have I commanded. (Isa. 45:12)

whatsoever is under the whole heaven is mine. (Job 41:11)

are you sure its the devil lie or it's god real intents to subdue you into beleiving he is to protect you from the devil?

why is it written "in god we trust" on the money?

To signify the merger of State and Church.

Honnestly this might sound selfish, but i care not about God will, i only care about my own will!

the idea of god will is of letting others being in control of your destiny. Simply disempowering yourself!

What does Idolatry does, may i ask you? It makes people SUBMIT to the will of others!

Get your education from God, the Word (John 1:1, Matt. 4:4).

Every word of God is pure (Prov. 30:5)

In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power (2 Thess. 1:8-9)

Those are lies. (Jeremiah 8:8)

God never wanted blood or sacrifice.

What kind of monster parents doom their kids to hell because they failed to teach them to love their Creator?

AC 491.......I suggest you find out who and what the Demiurge is......you can quote biblical scripture all day if you like......otherwise you are no closer to the truth than a blind man trying to see colors......