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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 9652512 11/27/2012 05:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Metaphors. It's just a tried and true form of philosophy wrapped in fables and legends. There's nothing to loose from reading it, learning it and applying it (usually). Good morals and a sound perspective of life can be gleaned from it easily. It's just that usually those that put too much weight into any belief (any belief) will eventually realize that opinions are meant to be flexible and not rigid. Rigid thoughts lead to more conflicts and more conflicts lead to more pain. Compassion, patience and resolution seem to be the only credible commonality among all religions. But thankfully it's the first thing all major religions teach. Unfortunately, it's the first thing they also forget. |
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| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 28566964 11/27/2012 05:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Metaphors. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9652512 It's just a tried and true form of philosophy wrapped in fables and legends. There's nothing to loose from reading it, learning it and applying it (usually). Good morals and a sound perspective of life can be gleaned from it easily. It's just that usually those that put too much weight into any belief (any belief) will eventually realize that opinions are meant to be flexible and not rigid. Rigid thoughts lead to more conflicts and more conflicts lead to more pain. Compassion, patience and resolution seem to be the only credible commonality among all religions. But thankfully it's the first thing all major religions teach. Unfortunately, it's the first thing they also forget. MORALS AND ETHICS ARE THE DOOR TO higher conciousness possible through meditation on the name of the God and other ways of attachment, unification and cleaving few know these things. Rightiusness it the foundation and the glue of society that prevents COMPLETE SELF DESTRUCTION ! |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 9652512 11/27/2012 05:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | MORALS AND ETHICS ARE THE DOOR TO Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28566964 higher conciousness possible through meditation on the name of the God and other ways of attachment, unification and cleaving few know these things. Rightiusness it the foundation and the glue of society that prevents COMPLETE SELF DESTRUCTION ! Morals and ethics are practices. Practices. You continue to do them so that you retain strength in them. That is all. Moral and ethical people are only strong through practice and practice alone. Meditation is a physical concentration on this practice. Yes, you should be moral and ethical at all times. Whatever those words mean to whatever creed, race, sex or otherwise demographic that you're in, (in whatever time period you're in). Also, attachment is fine. Detachment is equally fine. Neither really matters if everything is harmonious in nature. You can't be close to something that you distance yourself from, yet you can never be far from something you've never left in the first place. Righteousness is the action of boisterous individuals who would rather beat their chests and their accompanying drums of war than mimic anything relatable to peace. |
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| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 28566964 11/27/2012 07:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You quote scripture from the Torah. That is good. But what does God command for propitiation of sin OP? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1194370 Without a temple and sacrifices, how do you follow the laws and teachings of Torah today? Quite the quandary.... NO quandary at all First of all God himself is “For I am compassionate.” (numbers 23) This is His nature. Forgiveness of sins against God alone is obtained through repentance and confession of one’s sins in words before God Himself, and correcting one’s future conduct according to the God’s law. When one sins against a person (as by theft or injury), he must also do his best to make restitution to the person injured and gain his forgiveness, as well as repenting, confessing, and making amends in future conduct before God. Many may be surprised to learn that this will bring full atonement according to the Torah. (This is the main point of the Book of Jonah, of course; see Jonah 3,10, in particular). When the Temple stands, some sins require offerings as explained, in addition to this repentance process, not instead of it; without this repentance process, offerings for sins are totally ineffective, and must be brought again when one has truly repented. It is important to emphasize that according to the Torah, sacrifice was never the exclusive means of obtaining forgiveness and was not in and of itself sufficient to obtain forgiveness, and in certain circumstances was not even effective to obtain forgiveness. HOPE THIS HELPS YOU |
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| Muffinheadicus User ID: 15215384 11/27/2012 07:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Op, You just need a clearer understanding of who Jesus is. I dont think that you mean any harm. And, it seems like you have asked this question earnestly seeking truth. In it's simplest terms: Jesus Christ is God's highest intentions for man in the form of a human. It was necessary or Jesus to be human, because WE are humans. Any other species alien or otherwise lacks the proper DNA 'credentials' to be an ambassador of the human race. Jesus said that I and my Father are one. He was not saying that they are the same guy! He was saying that God's intentions and His intentions are one and the same. When reading the bible, read it with an open heart. Dont let it frustrate you. Faith comes by hearing. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1194370 11/27/2012 07:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You quote scripture from the Torah. That is good. But what does God command for propitiation of sin OP? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1194370 Without a temple and sacrifices, how do you follow the laws and teachings of Torah today? Quite the quandary.... NO quandary at all First of all God himself is “For I am compassionate.” (numbers 23) This is His nature. Forgiveness of sins against God alone is obtained through repentance and confession of one’s sins in words before God Himself, and correcting one’s future conduct according to the God’s law. When one sins against a person (as by theft or injury), he must also do his best to make restitution to the person injured and gain his forgiveness, as well as repenting, confessing, and making amends in future conduct before God. Many may be surprised to learn that this will bring full atonement according to the Torah. (This is the main point of the Book of Jonah, of course; see Jonah 3,10, in particular). When the Temple stands, some sins require offerings as explained, in addition to this repentance process, not instead of it; without this repentance process, offerings for sins are totally ineffective, and must be brought again when one has truly repented. It is important to emphasize that according to the Torah, sacrifice was never the exclusive means of obtaining forgiveness and was not in and of itself sufficient to obtain forgiveness, and in certain circumstances was not even effective to obtain forgiveness. HOPE THIS HELPS YOU Without the shedding of blood, there is no atonement for sin neighbor. Read your Torah... peace, |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1370992 11/27/2012 08:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yeah I agree about the Jesus thing. Personally I think he was a spiritual man, who wanted to teach us the truth of who we really are. We are spiritual beings, capable of achieving a higher level of consciousness, Christ consciousness. When you are at that level, in no way! Jesus would have asked everyone to worship him as our savior, or go to hell. That just sounds so crazy, coming from a man that's connected. The Holy Ghost is actually Mother Earth, God has said he made us in the image of him. Well God made Mother Earth as a garden of Eden for us, and he made us in the same make-up of Mother Earth, everything the Mother Earth has, we have. The Holy war is taken place her on Mother Earth, and also we were born on this planet, and conceived by the Mother. We have her gifts at our disposal, if we choose to raise our consciousness. The mother rules our body, and she also has a dual conscious as well. The Father, I tend to think that he rules our brain, meaning our consciousness. To raise our consciousness we must, purify our soul, Body, mind. Take off the blanket of negativity, and the light will shine brighter than ever. The better the light shines, the more you are close to the father. The son, I like to think this is us, the Higher Self, who rules are heart. The Higher self is already connected to Mother, and The Father. The Higher self is guide to our pathway, he/she is our teacher. Our natural talents come through our heart, as we honed them on a different life time. As for the term 'The Son" I would like to think it is because male = the positive, and the female = the negative. So the positive side of you, is the higher you, and vice versa with the female, as we have both in our bodies, duality, as with Mother Earth. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 28707420 11/29/2012 08:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You quote scripture from the Torah. That is good. But what does God command for propitiation of sin OP? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1194370 Without a temple and sacrifices, how do you follow the laws and teachings of Torah today? Quite the quandary.... NO quandary at all First of all God himself is “For I am compassionate.” (numbers 23) This is His nature. Forgiveness of sins against God alone is obtained through repentance and confession of one’s sins in words before God Himself, and correcting one’s future conduct according to the God’s law. When one sins against a person (as by theft or injury), he must also do his best to make restitution to the person injured and gain his forgiveness, as well as repenting, confessing, and making amends in future conduct before God. Many may be surprised to learn that this will bring full atonement according to the Torah. (This is the main point of the Book of Jonah, of course; see Jonah 3,10, in particular). When the Temple stands, some sins require offerings as explained, in addition to this repentance process, not instead of it; without this repentance process, offerings for sins are totally ineffective, and must be brought again when one has truly repented. It is important to emphasize that according to the Torah, sacrifice was never the exclusive means of obtaining forgiveness and was not in and of itself sufficient to obtain forgiveness, and in certain circumstances was not even effective to obtain forgiveness. HOPE THIS HELPS YOU Without the shedding of blood, there is no atonement for sin neighbor. Read your Torah... peace, NONSENSE YOU BEEN LISTEN TO IGNORANT DOGMA "Even now," declares the Lord, "return to me with all your heart, with fasting and weeping and mourning." << Joel 2:12 >> also "Take words with you and return to the LORD. Say to him: "Forgive all our sins and receive us graciously, that we may offer the fruit of our lips." << Hosea 14:2 >> |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 28707420 11/29/2012 09:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Op, Quoting: Muffinheadicus 15215384 You just need a clearer understanding of who Jesus is. I dont think that you mean any harm. And, it seems like you have asked this question earnestly seeking truth. In it's simplest terms: Jesus Christ is God's highest intentions for man in the form of a human. It was necessary or Jesus to be human, because WE are humans. Any other species alien or otherwise lacks the proper DNA 'credentials' to be an ambassador of the human race. Jesus said that I and my Father are one. He was not saying that they are the same guy! He was saying that God's intentions and His intentions are one and the same. When reading the bible, read it with an open heart. Dont let it frustrate you. Faith comes by hearing. God is God Some think God is the son of God Appollo the son of Zeus some call him Jesus others worshiped , Images they called God LIKE BOWING BEFORE JESUS ON THE CROSS BOTTOM LINE IS IN TRUTH GOD IS GOD ITS THAT SIMPLE Don't let them deceive or confuse you GOD IS GOD NOW DO YOU BEST NOT TO DO EVIL AND ABOVE ALL DO GOOD KIND THINGS ! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 9078685 11/29/2012 09:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | while God is God...that Jesus is real is confirmed in Genesis when God brough Eve out of Adams side as his helpmeet. the real question is, if there is definitely God and Jesus... ....where is the Man that God created? Jesus was made so that all of the liars in the world would be convicted of their murderous treachery. |
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| McMiller Gods Army User ID: 3214087 11/29/2012 09:31 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How does Jesus (God) suffering on the cross somehow make up and “save” people who fall short of the glory of God? It’s a bizarre premise to begin with, God sacrificing himself in the form of his son to himself to atone for the sins of mankind. What a bullshit, fear based religion. All Christianity does is make people feel they are “no good.” Jesus lived a Sinless life, this is what gives him the ability to pay for the sins of mankind, now that he has suffered, if you accept his free gift of salvation, you will gain eternal life. Sorry its the readers digest version but its so simple people miss it. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 28707420 11/29/2012 09:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | while God is God...that Jesus is real is confirmed in Genesis when God brough Eve out of Adams side as his helpmeet. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9078685 the real question is, if there is definitely God and Jesus... ....where is the Man that God created? Jesus was made so that all of the liars in the world would be convicted of their murderous treachery. No need They were convicted by their own actions before GOD GOD IS GOD. They just want to confuse you with pagan things |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 28704166 11/29/2012 09:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why do you think the end time Apocalypse happens in Israel and to the Jewish people? Cause, that is the only way you all will accept Jesus Christ! Please read the (updated) KJV New Testament. Jesus Christ has ALREADY came! You all and your unbelief are setting yourself for accepting the anti-christ as your Messiah! BEWARE! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 28707420 11/29/2012 09:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How does Jesus (God) suffering on the cross somehow make up and “save” people who fall short of the glory of God? It’s a bizarre premise to begin with, God sacrificing himself in the form of his son to himself to atone for the sins of mankind. What a bullshit, fear based religion. All Christianity does is make people feel they are “no good.” Quoting: McMiller Jesus lived a Sinless life, this is what gives him the ability to pay for the sins of mankind, now that he has suffered, if you accept his free gift of salvation, you will gain eternal life. Sorry its the readers digest version but its so simple people miss it. Its Obvious in truth NO ONE WILL SAVE ANYONE Every one must get "right" with the God Repent of their evil AND DO GOOD THEN "The LORD is near to all who call on him, to all who call on him in truth." ITS REALLY THAT SIMPLE BRO Don't let all the pagan influence confuse GOD IS GOD "GOD is not a man" Numbers 23:19 |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 28707420 11/29/2012 09:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why do you think the end time Apocalypse happens in Israel and to the Jewish people? Cause, that is the only way you all will accept Jesus Christ! Please read the (updated) KJV New Testament. Jesus Christ has ALREADY came! You all and your unbelief are setting yourself for accepting the anti-christ as your Messiah! BEWARE! NONSENSE, ITS HAPPENING IN THE HOLY LAND TO THE PEOPLE OF ISREAL BECAUSE LIKE THEY WERE REDEEMED FROM EGYPT AND FROM BAVEL, THERE SHALL BE A FINAL REDEMPTION AS SPOKEN BY THE PROPHETS If you learn the worlds of the Prophets instead of as many Christians do pretending its all talking about jesus, and missing the ENTIRE point YOU CAN UNDERSTAND This will help Specific detail concerning the nature of the revelation of the Messiah and his actions are found in the words of the Prophet Isaiah: “ There shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Yashi, and a branch shall grow out of his roots. The spirit of YHVH shall rest upon him ,and the spirit of Wisdom and understanding, the spirit of council and might, the spirit of knowledge and fear of YHVH. His delight shall be in the fear of YHVH. He shall not judge by the sight of his eyes or the hearing of his ears. With righteousness shall he judge the poor and decide with equity concerning the meek of the earth. He shall smite the earth with the rod of his mouth. With the breath of his lips shall he slay the wicked ” (11:1-4) Rashi explains that Hashem shall perform a great miracle suddenly for Israel in the days of Messiah which will result in gathering in of the exiles. This sudden wonder is as a sprout suddenly shooting forth that was previously unseen by all. The Radak explains that Messiah by the rod of his mouth will change things from the way they are now. The poor will be remembered and raised up to the wise. The Vilna Goan tells us the poor of the earth are the Tsadekem (RIGHTEOUS), eventually they will be raised to the great Tsadekem like Rabbi Shimon Bar Yochai, and the wicked will die. The righteous will be strengthened. The wicked cursed with their lips and breath so is their lot. while the righteous receive the harvest of their righteousness. Not only will we be blessed with the arrival of Messiah who will bring redemption but He will have helpers as we see in the words of the Prophet Obadiah : “ Deliverers will ascend to Mount Zion to Judge mount Asev and the kingdom will belong to YHVH ” (1:21) The Radak tells us the word deliverers plural refers to Messiah, and his friends the seven shepherds and eight princes of men. Metsudat David explains at this time Edom shall be judged on the evil they have done to Israel. And their work shall be awesome as Zechariah describes: “ Therefore says YHVH I have returned to Jerusalem with mercies. My house shall be rebuilt in it thus says YHVH TSVAOT and a line shall be stretched forth over Jerusalem. Proclaim further saying thus says YHVH TSVAOT My cities shall again overflow with property, and YHVH shall yet comfort Zion and shall choose Jerusalem ” (1:16-17) I have found this web site explains it well [link to godssecret.wordpress.com] |
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| Itchy Who? User ID: 28712237 11/29/2012 11:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How does Jesus (God) suffering on the cross somehow make up and “save” people who fall short of the glory of God? It’s a bizarre premise to begin with, God sacrificing himself in the form of his son to himself to atone for the sins of mankind. What a bullshit, fear based religion. All Christianity does is make people feel they are “no good.” Quoting: McMiller Jesus lived a Sinless life, this is what gives him the ability to pay for the sins of mankind, now that he has suffered, if you accept his free gift of salvation, you will gain eternal life. Sorry its the readers digest version but its so simple people miss it. I still don't get it. At one hand, the whole humanity gets cursed because two people ate an apple, and on the other hand one sinless human being can take all sins? Then i can go around murdering and raping, and after that, accept the free gift of salvation? Reverend Lovejoy: Y'ever sat down and read this thing? Technically we're not supposed to go to the bathroom. "I am Jack's medulla oblongata, without me Jack could not regulate his heart rate, blood pressure or breathing!" "Laugh and the world laughs with you. Cry and you cry alone” "The flutes of the chi will sound again, my friend." [link to upload.wikimedia.org] |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 9905909 11/29/2012 11:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | GOD IS FOR REAL — THE ZOMBIE JESUS GOD IS NOT Quoting: VERY REAL 28566964 GOD IS GOD Christianity is FICTION ! So God decides to incarnate himself as a human who is both his son and himself simultaneously (somehow the Holy Spirit is tied into this to form a trinity). Jesus (God) is sacrificed on the cross to himself, to die for the sins of mankind. What the fuck kind of sense does that make? My understanding of the word sin is that it basically means: to miss the mark, fall short of the glory of God, whatever that may be. How does Jesus (God) suffering on the cross somehow make up and “save” people who fall short of the glory of God? It’s a bizarre premise to begin with its so close but misses the mark: its all in the twist. Jesus 'invented'/'discovered' the Holy Ghost: collective unconscious. made the duality a trinity. Jesus had a kundalini rising event and channeled God...something all humans are given the oportunity to experience. he just did it 'loudly'. he lived his faith all the way to the end. His sacrifice is and EXAMPLE: holding the line means sacrifice, and when it doesn't bring death, it brings wonder. true story. no one can make your sacrifices for you, it is, in fact, the very ACT of sacrifice that can bring grace. and each human is given the oportunity to choose that path. but it must be personal and it will hurt. a lot. just sayin' |