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BREAKING: Morsi Stands His Ground - Clashes Erupt in Cairo near US Embassy - Emergency Message Issued for US Citizens

 
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PM: Constitutional declaration issued to save Egypt

Prime Minister Hesham Qandil on Wednesday said Mohamed Morsy’s 22 November constitutional declaration was made to save Egypt and preserve state institutions, such as the Shura Council and the Constituent Assembly, in addition to the presidential elections.

He told Al Jazeera Mubasher Misr that the declaration does not marginalize the judiciary, adding that, “Calling President Morsy a dictator is inappropriate.”

“Voting on the constitution will end the crisis, and the president’s legislative powers will move to the Shura Council,” he said, pointing out that certain ministers are clarifying the constitutional declaration for the political forces.

“The president said he would not go back on the constitutional declaration,” Qandil said. “The elected president must be removed by elections, not demonstrations.”

“The police are for the first time protecting the peaceful demonstrators,” he added, “but it becomes difficult when thugs infiltrate.”

“The state institutions, the president, the prime minister and the ministers are constantly criticized,” he continued. “I do not mind, for I am concentrating on the development of the country.”
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PM: Constitutional declaration issued to save Egypt

Prime Minister Hesham Qandil on Wednesday said Mohamed Morsy’s 22 November constitutional declaration was made to save Egypt and preserve state institutions, such as the Shura Council and the Constituent Assembly, in addition to the presidential elections.

He told Al Jazeera Mubasher Misr that the declaration does not marginalize the judiciary, adding that, “Calling President Morsy a dictator is inappropriate.”

“Voting on the constitution will end the crisis, and the president’s legislative powers will move to the Shura Council,” he said, pointing out that certain ministers are clarifying the constitutional declaration for the political forces.

“The president said he would not go back on the constitutional declaration,” Qandil said. “The elected president must be removed by elections, not demonstrations.”

“The police are for the first time protecting the peaceful demonstrators,” he added, “but it becomes difficult when thugs infiltrate.”

“The state institutions, the president, the prime minister and the ministers are constantly criticized,” he continued. “I do not mind, for I am concentrating on the development of the country.”
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27962451

Somehow I don't think the PM is telling the truth.
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PM: Constitutional declaration issued to save Egypt

Prime Minister Hesham Qandil on Wednesday said Mohamed Morsy’s 22 November constitutional declaration was made to save Egypt and preserve state institutions, such as the Shura Council and the Constituent Assembly, in addition to the presidential elections.

He told Al Jazeera Mubasher Misr that the declaration does not marginalize the judiciary, adding that, “Calling President Morsy a dictator is inappropriate.”

“Voting on the constitution will end the crisis, and the president’s legislative powers will move to the Shura Council,” he said, pointing out that certain ministers are clarifying the constitutional declaration for the political forces.

“The president said he would not go back on the constitutional declaration,” Qandil said. “The elected president must be removed by elections, not demonstrations.”

“The police are for the first time protecting the peaceful demonstrators,” he added, “but it becomes difficult when thugs infiltrate.”

“The state institutions, the president, the prime minister and the ministers are constantly criticized,” he continued. “I do not mind, for I am concentrating on the development of the country.”
[link to www.egyptindependent.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27962451

Somehow I don't think the PM is telling the truth.
 Quoting: Éireann


It is a political power struggle, many sides involved. I'm trying to figure out the truth. But it's not all what it seems...how will we ever know without having a look behind the scenes.
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The Constituent Assembly on Wednesday approved the articles in the draft constitution that pertain to the Armed Forces, including articles allowing military trials of civilians and stipulating that the military budget is not subject to parliamentary oversight.

[link to www.egyptindependent.com]

Zonkies!
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Live coverage of Egypt's Constituent Assembly with English Translation

[link to www.cnn.com]
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They are replacing 14 "withdrawing" members. Too bad I don't know anything about who these people are.
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Jeebus!

Morning, Doorbert. kaffe
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Morning Éireann

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Islamic Sharia is the MAIN source for Legislation! This is the article they are voting on now?????

Holy FUCK!
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Islamic Sharia is the MAIN source for Legislation! This is the article they are voting on now?????

Holy FUCK!
 Quoting: Éireann

And it FUCKING passed!!!!!!

Now they are going to register Jews and Christians. Oh... that's just great. 4 objections. 81 - 4... passed.
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Good God! Why don't they just slap a fucking Koran down on the table and call it a day!

What kind of fucking law can there be when the state religion is Islam and no one else has any rights????
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Islamic Sharia is the MAIN source for Legislation! This is the article they are voting on now?????

Holy FUCK!
 Quoting: Éireann

And it FUCKING passed!!!!!!

Now they are going to register Jews and Christians. Oh... that's just great. 4 objections. 81 - 4... passed.
 Quoting: Éireann


I wonder if they'll start burning numbers in their foreheads too as they are registered? And Egypt has circled and gone down the drain as a moderate muslim nation and has now fallen into the abyss of extremist islam ruled society.
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The man overseeing the "discussion" of the articles isn't even letting anyone discuss it! If they disagree with him...they are asked to sit down.
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Islamic Sharia is the MAIN source for Legislation! This is the article they are voting on now?????

Holy FUCK!
 Quoting: Éireann

And it FUCKING passed!!!!!!

Now they are going to register Jews and Christians. Oh... that's just great. 4 objections. 81 - 4... passed.
 Quoting: Éireann


I wonder if they'll start burning numbers in their foreheads too as they are registered? And Egypt has circled and gone down the drain as a moderate muslim nation and has now fallen into the abyss of extremist islam ruled society.
 Quoting: godzilla85

This is a circus!!
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Islamic Sharia is the MAIN source for Legislation! This is the article they are voting on now?????

Holy FUCK!
 Quoting: Éireann

And it FUCKING passed!!!!!!

Now they are going to register Jews and Christians. Oh... that's just great. 4 objections. 81 - 4... passed.
 Quoting: Éireann


I wonder if they'll start burning numbers in their foreheads too as they are registered? And Egypt has circled and gone down the drain as a moderate muslim nation and has now fallen into the abyss of extremist islam ruled society.
 Quoting: godzilla85

This is a circus!!
 Quoting: Éireann


not surprised in the least at any of this.
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Now I'm really concerned. Awfekkit lives and works there but she isn't from there. WTF is going to happen to anyone who isn't Muslim??
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Now I'm really concerned. Awfekkit lives and works there but she isn't from there. WTF is going to happen to anyone who isn't Muslim??
 Quoting: Éireann


well I would suggest they consider getting the hell out of there.
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Now I'm really concerned. Awfekkit lives and works there but she isn't from there. WTF is going to happen to anyone who isn't Muslim??
 Quoting: Éireann


well I would suggest they consider getting the hell out of there.
 Quoting: godzilla85

She's at work right now, I think. I hope she checks in.
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Sounds like a lot of free stuff...guess the US will pay for it.
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Sounds like a lot of free stuff...guess the US will pay for it.
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If we send one single dime to this Sharia state, I'm going to go postal.
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So this was Obama's hope all along? Here comes the Caliphate!
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Sounds like a lot of free stuff...guess the US will pay for it.
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If we send one single dime to this Sharia state, I'm going to go postal.
 Quoting: Éireann


Well, we already did. Chance that they might yank the latest round of billion dollar gifts, but that would be only the most recent of our gazillions of outlays to Egypt.
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Islamic Sharia is the MAIN source for Legislation! This is the article they are voting on now?????

Holy FUCK!
 Quoting: Éireann


That's been the same as always....they argued and some Islamists wanted to change it, now the Article 2 stays as before and actually if you read everything, you see Christians and Jews fall under their own laws. Sharia here is applied only for marriage, inheritance etc and for Muslims only...otherwise we have laws like any other country...as it says, it's a "source" for legislation. No big deal! Actually Copts argued this they didn't want to fall under church laws, some of them, because we're not allowed to get divorced for example, unlike Muslims who can and women can even go to court. Hope that clears it up, no need for swearing.
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Sounds like a lot of free stuff...guess the US will pay for it.
 Quoting: snark

If we send one single dime to this Sharia state, I'm going to go postal.
 Quoting: Éireann


Well, we already did. Chance that they might yank the latest round of billion dollar gifts, but that would be only the most recent of our gazillions of outlays to Egypt.
 Quoting: snark

All I can do is just sit here and shake my head. The whole world is going backwards in time and grabbing hold of the worst things about humanity to lay as their foundation for a "New World"

OMG!!! I can't believe this is happening!
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Now I'm really concerned. Awfekkit lives and works there but she isn't from there. WTF is going to happen to anyone who isn't Muslim??
 Quoting: Éireann


well I would suggest they consider getting the hell out of there.
 Quoting: godzilla85


FFS ppl - well when she gets in here, she'll tell you the same I did.

Facepalm at all you guys .... a little reading would do you all some good.
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Muslim Brotherhood Statement Calling All Egyptians for Million-Man March and Rally Saturday in Tahrir

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Islamic Sharia is the MAIN source for Legislation! This is the article they are voting on now?????

Holy FUCK!
 Quoting: Éireann


That's been the same as always....they argued and some Islamists wanted to change it, now the Article 2 stays as before and actually if you read everything, you see Christians and Jews fall under their own laws. Sharia here is applied only for marriage, inheritance etc and for Muslims only...otherwise we have laws like any other country...as it says, it's a "source" for legislation. No big deal! Actually Copts argued this they didn't want to fall under church laws, some of them, because we're not allowed to get divorced for example, unlike Muslims who can and women can even go to court. Hope that clears it up, no need for swearing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27962451

No offense, but having a religion as a government is a very bad idea. Look at the US. Legislating morality is killing Liberty at the very root.
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Now I'm really concerned. Awfekkit lives and works there but she isn't from there. WTF is going to happen to anyone who isn't Muslim??
 Quoting: Éireann


well I would suggest they consider getting the hell out of there.
 Quoting: godzilla85


FFS ppl - well when she gets in here, she'll tell you the same I did.

Facepalm at all you guys .... a little reading would do you all some good.
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if it's not in a movie it's not worth knowing tounge
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Now I'm really concerned. Awfekkit lives and works there but she isn't from there. WTF is going to happen to anyone who isn't Muslim??
 Quoting: Éireann


well I would suggest they consider getting the hell out of there.
 Quoting: godzilla85


FFS ppl - well when she gets in here, she'll tell you the same I did.

Facepalm at all you guys .... a little reading would do you all some good.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27962451

And who has the time to keep up with every single topic? Can we use you as a resource instead?

Seriously. Since you live there and know the situation, wouldn't it be better for you to explain it to us? It's pretty foreign to me. No pun intended.

Last Edited by Eireann on 11/29/2012 08:21 AM
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