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I drove a GM vehicle for the first time in 15 years... check this out...

 
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I drove a GM vehicle for the first time in 15 years... check this out...
2012 Chevy Traverse...
8,200 miles (rental car)

Nice Looking
Nicely Equipped
Had the ride of a dump truck
Transmission Slipped, hit the gas to pass and the engine surged, then the transmission would hunt for the proper gear...
Oh and I am not kidding about this.... It was burning oil...
White smoke at idle, just a little bit... stomp on the gas and POOF... a belch of white smoke, just for a second...

Are you GM fanboys really that stupid?
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Oil burns blue, you were just seeing steam...
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Re: I drove a GM vehicle for the first time in 15 years... check this out...
Oil burns blue, you were just seeing steam...
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"BOOM for the thread kill" lol.
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I don't know if Jeep is GM or not, but I drive a 20 year old jeep cherokee 4x4 and it runs great, should go to about 300k miles.

New cars are junk.
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No one who has actually ever driven a "dump truck" would write half that other faggoty assed bullcrap.

Just re-paint your nails and go back to driving your prius...
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Traverse is junk.
Much like the GMC Envoy. Garbage.
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No one who has actually ever driven a "dump truck" would write half that other faggoty assed bullcrap.

Just re-paint your nails and go back to driving your prius...
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Re: I drove a GM vehicle for the first time in 15 years... check this out...
I don't know if Jeep is GM or not, but I drive a 20 year old jeep cherokee 4x4 and it runs great, should go to about 300k miles.

New cars are junk.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


not GM

1944–1953: Willys-Overland
1953–1964: Kaiser-Jeep (calling themselves "Willys Motors")
1964–1970: Kaiser-Jeep
1970–1987: AMC (w/ Renault controlling production in 1986)
1987–1998: Chrysler
1998–2007: DaimlerChrysler AG
2007–2009: Chrysler LLC
2009–present: Chrysler Group LLC
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Re: I drove a GM vehicle for the first time in 15 years... check this out...
I don't know if Jeep is GM or not, but I drive a 20 year old jeep cherokee 4x4 and it runs great, should go to about 300k miles.

New cars are junk.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


not GM

1944–1953: Willys-Overland
1953–1964: Kaiser-Jeep (calling themselves "Willys Motors")
1964–1970: Kaiser-Jeep
1970–1987: AMC (w/ Renault controlling production in 1986)
1987–1998: Chrysler
1998–2007: DaimlerChrysler AG
2007–2009: Chrysler LLC
2009–present: Chrysler Group LLC
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1339701


I'd love to know which year jeeps were the best built because I"m actually looking to pick up another one. Great cars built to last. No frills, not pretty or comfortable really, just a solid work horse which is good enough for me.
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Re: I drove a GM vehicle for the first time in 15 years... check this out...
I don't know if Jeep is GM or not, but I drive a 20 year old jeep cherokee 4x4 and it runs great, should go to about 300k miles.

New cars are junk.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


not GM

1944–1953: Willys-Overland
1953–1964: Kaiser-Jeep (calling themselves "Willys Motors")
1964–1970: Kaiser-Jeep
1970–1987: AMC (w/ Renault controlling production in 1986)
1987–1998: Chrysler
1998–2007: DaimlerChrysler AG
2007–2009: Chrysler LLC
2009–present: Chrysler Group LLC
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1339701


I'd love to know which year jeeps were the best built because I"m actually looking to pick up another one. Great cars built to last. No frills, not pretty or comfortable really, just a solid work horse which is good enough for me.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


My son just bought a '98 Grand Cherokee 5.2, leather interior, 4x4, they are good solid vehicles but like gas...
With freedom comes responsibility.

Heterosexual pride!

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Re: I drove a GM vehicle for the first time in 15 years... check this out...
Oil burns blue, you were just seeing steam...
 Quoting: BRIEF


steam dissipates...
oil/ coolant do not...

I believe this car has a headgasket leak or a cracked head.
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Re: I drove a GM vehicle for the first time in 15 years... check this out...
I don't know if Jeep is GM or not, but I drive a 20 year old jeep cherokee 4x4 and it runs great, should go to about 300k miles.

New cars are junk.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


not GM

1944–1953: Willys-Overland
1953–1964: Kaiser-Jeep (calling themselves "Willys Motors")
1964–1970: Kaiser-Jeep
1970–1987: AMC (w/ Renault controlling production in 1986)
1987–1998: Chrysler
1998–2007: DaimlerChrysler AG
2007–2009: Chrysler LLC
2009–present: Chrysler Group LLC
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1339701


I'd love to know which year jeeps were the best built because I"m actually looking to pick up another one. Great cars built to last. No frills, not pretty or comfortable really, just a solid work horse which is good enough for me.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa



The newer ones have more tranny problems than the old ones. Wrangler TJs are my favorite. Get the YJ or older if you're concerned about EMPs.
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Re: I drove a GM vehicle for the first time in 15 years... check this out...
Oil burns blue, you were just seeing steam...
 Quoting: BRIEF


steam dissipates...
oil/ coolant do not...

I believe this car has a headgasket leak or a cracked head.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28375544


Any vehicle after '95 will have a constant flow of water out the tailpipe due to the emissions systems...
With freedom comes responsibility.

Heterosexual pride!

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Re: I drove a GM vehicle for the first time in 15 years... check this out...
I don't know if Jeep is GM or not, but I drive a 20 year old jeep cherokee 4x4 and it runs great, should go to about 300k miles.

New cars are junk.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


not GM

1944–1953: Willys-Overland
1953–1964: Kaiser-Jeep (calling themselves "Willys Motors")
1964–1970: Kaiser-Jeep
1970–1987: AMC (w/ Renault controlling production in 1986)
1987–1998: Chrysler
1998–2007: DaimlerChrysler AG
2007–2009: Chrysler LLC
2009–present: Chrysler Group LLC
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1339701


I'd love to know which year jeeps were the best built because I"m actually looking to pick up another one. Great cars built to last. No frills, not pretty or comfortable really, just a solid work horse which is good enough for me.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


My son just bought a '98 Grand Cherokee 5.2, leather interior, 4x4, they are good solid vehicles but like gas...
 Quoting: BRIEF


Yea, they are huge gas hogs. I've heard that the Grand Cherokee are not the same as the regular Cherokee as far as guts.
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Re: I drove a GM vehicle for the first time in 15 years... check this out...
Oil burns blue, you were just seeing steam...
 Quoting: BRIEF


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Re: I drove a GM vehicle for the first time in 15 years... check this out...
I don't know if Jeep is GM or not, but I drive a 20 year old jeep cherokee 4x4 and it runs great, should go to about 300k miles.

New cars are junk.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


not GM

1944–1953: Willys-Overland
1953–1964: Kaiser-Jeep (calling themselves "Willys Motors")
1964–1970: Kaiser-Jeep
1970–1987: AMC (w/ Renault controlling production in 1986)
1987–1998: Chrysler
1998–2007: DaimlerChrysler AG
2007–2009: Chrysler LLC
2009–present: Chrysler Group LLC
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1339701


I'd love to know which year jeeps were the best built because I"m actually looking to pick up another one. Great cars built to last. No frills, not pretty or comfortable really, just a solid work horse which is good enough for me.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa



The newer ones have more tranny problems than the old ones. Wrangler TJs are my favorite. Get the YJ or older if you're concerned about EMPs.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1339701


Yea, I like the wranglers too, but I've never seen one that isn't stick and I can't drive a stick and don't want to learn how.....lol.
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I don't know if Jeep is GM or not, but I drive a 20 year old jeep cherokee 4x4 and it runs great, should go to about 300k miles.

New cars are junk.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


not GM

1944–1953: Willys-Overland
1953–1964: Kaiser-Jeep (calling themselves "Willys Motors")
1964–1970: Kaiser-Jeep
1970–1987: AMC (w/ Renault controlling production in 1986)
1987–1998: Chrysler
1998–2007: DaimlerChrysler AG
2007–2009: Chrysler LLC
2009–present: Chrysler Group LLC
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1339701


I'd love to know which year jeeps were the best built because I"m actually looking to pick up another one. Great cars built to last. No frills, not pretty or comfortable really, just a solid work horse which is good enough for me.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


My son just bought a '98 Grand Cherokee 5.2, leather interior, 4x4, they are good solid vehicles but like gas...
 Quoting: BRIEF



Yes, they like gas.


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not GM

1944–1953: Willys-Overland
1953–1964: Kaiser-Jeep (calling themselves "Willys Motors")
1964–1970: Kaiser-Jeep
1970–1987: AMC (w/ Renault controlling production in 1986)
1987–1998: Chrysler
1998–2007: DaimlerChrysler AG
2007–2009: Chrysler LLC
2009–present: Chrysler Group LLC
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1339701


I'd love to know which year jeeps were the best built because I"m actually looking to pick up another one. Great cars built to last. No frills, not pretty or comfortable really, just a solid work horse which is good enough for me.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


My son just bought a '98 Grand Cherokee 5.2, leather interior, 4x4, they are good solid vehicles but like gas...
 Quoting: BRIEF


Yea, they are huge gas hogs. I've heard that the Grand Cherokee are not the same as the regular Cherokee as far as guts.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


They are basically the same with the Grand Cherokee having a few more options...4.0 and 5.2 are the strongest engines.
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Re: I drove a GM vehicle for the first time in 15 years... check this out...
I had a 2005 Jeep Grand Cherokee that had many problems. Would be driving down the road and suddenly it would sound like someone was taking a baseball bat to my transmission. Took it to a dealer 4 times before I finally just traded it in for a BMW lol
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not GM

1944–1953: Willys-Overland
1953–1964: Kaiser-Jeep (calling themselves "Willys Motors")
1964–1970: Kaiser-Jeep
1970–1987: AMC (w/ Renault controlling production in 1986)
1987–1998: Chrysler
1998–2007: DaimlerChrysler AG
2007–2009: Chrysler LLC
2009–present: Chrysler Group LLC
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1339701


I'd love to know which year jeeps were the best built because I"m actually looking to pick up another one. Great cars built to last. No frills, not pretty or comfortable really, just a solid work horse which is good enough for me.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


My son just bought a '98 Grand Cherokee 5.2, leather interior, 4x4, they are good solid vehicles but like gas...
 Quoting: BRIEF



Yes, they like gas.


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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1339701


LOL.....yea it's true. I could buy a more gas efficient small SUV like a KIA or something like that, but my husband says they are junk and to stick with the older model jeeps.
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Yea, I like the wranglers too, but I've never seen one that isn't stick and I can't drive a stick and don't want to learn how.....lol.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


Automatics are out there. For the guys, Wranglers are chick magnets just like eye patches.
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not GM

1944–1953: Willys-Overland
1953–1964: Kaiser-Jeep (calling themselves "Willys Motors")
1964–1970: Kaiser-Jeep
1970–1987: AMC (w/ Renault controlling production in 1986)
1987–1998: Chrysler
1998–2007: DaimlerChrysler AG
2007–2009: Chrysler LLC
2009–present: Chrysler Group LLC
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1339701


I'd love to know which year jeeps were the best built because I"m actually looking to pick up another one. Great cars built to last. No frills, not pretty or comfortable really, just a solid work horse which is good enough for me.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


My son just bought a '98 Grand Cherokee 5.2, leather interior, 4x4, they are good solid vehicles but like gas...
 Quoting: BRIEF



Yes, they like gas.


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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1339701


He's a new driver and I didn't want him in a tuna can, like a civic or other death trap...
With freedom comes responsibility.

Heterosexual pride!

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I had a 2005 Jeep Grand Cherokee that had many problems. Would be driving down the road and suddenly it would sound like someone was taking a baseball bat to my transmission. Took it to a dealer 4 times before I finally just traded it in for a BMW lol
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For some reason the Grand Cherokees had alot of problems, I won't touch them. Jeep liberty's are also problematic.
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LOL.....yea it's true. I could buy a more gas efficient small SUV like a KIA or something like that, but my husband says they are junk and to stick with the older model jeeps.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


good advice
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I'd love to know which year jeeps were the best built because I"m actually looking to pick up another one. Great cars built to last. No frills, not pretty or comfortable really, just a solid work horse which is good enough for me.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


My son just bought a '98 Grand Cherokee 5.2, leather interior, 4x4, they are good solid vehicles but like gas...
 Quoting: BRIEF


Yea, they are huge gas hogs. I've heard that the Grand Cherokee are not the same as the regular Cherokee as far as guts.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


They are basically the same with the Grand Cherokee having a few more options...4.0 and 5.2 are the strongest engines.
 Quoting: BRIEF


I read somewhere that they had completely different engines and trans and that the Grand cherokees are not as good as the cherokee country and sport with the straight 6 inline engine.
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Oil burns blue, you were just seeing steam...
 Quoting: BRIEF


steam dissipates...
oil/ coolant do not...

I believe this car has a headgasket leak or a cracked head.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28375544


Any vehicle after '95 will have a constant flow of water out the tailpipe due to the emissions systems...
 Quoting: BRIEF


norespect

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Re: I drove a GM vehicle for the first time in 15 years... check this out...
Oil burns blue, you were just seeing steam...
 Quoting: BRIEF


steam dissipates...
oil/ coolant do not...

I believe this car has a headgasket leak or a cracked head.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28375544


Any vehicle after '95 will have a constant flow of water out the tailpipe due to the emissions systems...
 Quoting: BRIEF


so where does this constant flow of water come from?
not challenging you, just looking for answers...

i obviously hate GM with every ounce of my being...
but my:
2012 Volvo X/C 60
2011 Nissan Juke
2006 Mustang GT
1998 Ford Explorer
2007 Yamaha Majesty
Do not blow anything out of their tail pipes once the exhaust has heated.

And doesn't stem from the exhaust dissipate about 3' from the rear of the car.... is it normal to see this smoke in the rear view at the end of a 30 mile trip? In 70 degree weather?
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Oil burns blue, you were just seeing steam...
 Quoting: BRIEF


steam dissipates...
oil/ coolant do not...

I believe this car has a headgasket leak or a cracked head.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28375544


Any vehicle after '95 will have a constant flow of water out the tailpipe due to the emissions systems...
 Quoting: BRIEF


norespect
 Quoting: Justalittlebad


It's true...OBDII systems, particularly the catalytic converter produces water as a byproduct instead of CO, HC, and oxides of nitrogen...
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Oil burns blue, you were just seeing steam...
 Quoting: BRIEF


steam dissipates...
oil/ coolant do not...

I believe this car has a headgasket leak or a cracked head.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28375544


Any vehicle after '95 will have a constant flow of water out the tailpipe due to the emissions systems...
 Quoting: BRIEF


so where does this constant flow of water come from?
not challenging you, just looking for answers...

i obviously hate GM with every ounce of my being...
but my:
2012 Volvo X/C 60
2011 Nissan Juke
2006 Mustang GT
1998 Ford Explorer
2007 Yamaha Majesty
Do not blow anything out of their tail pipes once the exhaust has heated.

And doesn't stem from the exhaust dissipate about 3' from the rear of the car.... is it normal to see this smoke in the rear view at the end of a 30 mile trip? In 70 degree weather?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28375544


Moisture in the air...they will produce up to a gallon of water per gallon of gas used...there are weep holes in the exhaust system to let them drain...you are still dripping water, you just don't see it...
With freedom comes responsibility.

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As much as I hate to say it Chevy is a POS. I bought my wife a new Arcadia and coming from a Toyoda the Chevy can’t hold a candle to the Toyoda. We drove the Yoda for 100K miles not one issue, the Chevy broke within 26K the transmission went out.

But I will say this about American built / designed cars I drive a Ford Mustang and in two and a half years I have put 100K on it without one issue
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steam dissipates...
oil/ coolant do not...

I believe this car has a headgasket leak or a cracked head.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28375544


Any vehicle after '95 will have a constant flow of water out the tailpipe due to the emissions systems...
 Quoting: BRIEF


so where does this constant flow of water come from?
not challenging you, just looking for answers...

i obviously hate GM with every ounce of my being...
but my:
2012 Volvo X/C 60
2011 Nissan Juke
2006 Mustang GT
1998 Ford Explorer
2007 Yamaha Majesty
Do not blow anything out of their tail pipes once the exhaust has heated.

And doesn't stem from the exhaust dissipate about 3' from the rear of the car.... is it normal to see this smoke in the rear view at the end of a 30 mile trip? In 70 degree weather?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28375544


Moisture in the air...they will produce up to a gallon of water per gallon of gas used...there are weep holes in the exhaust system to let them drain...you are still dripping water, you just don't see it...
 Quoting: BRIEF


Depending on your local climate, most all cars will produce condensation at start up....
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