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Education & Academic History:

•1977 - Undergraduate degrees in mathematics and physics at Ottawa's Carleton University, having earned first class honours.
•1982 - Physics Ph.D. from Massachusetts Institute of Technology
•1982 to 1985 - Member of the Harvard Society of Fellows
•1985 to 1993 - Assistant and then associate professorship at Yale
•1993 to 2005 - He went on to serve as the Ambrose Swasey Professor of Physics, Professor of Astronomy, and Chairman of the department of Physics at Case Western Reserve University
•2008 to present (2011, at least) - Foundation Professor in the School of Earth and Space Exploration and Physics Department, and Inaugural Director of the Origins Project at Arizona State University

Scientific Background:

Lawrence Krauss is a cosmologist, meaning that he studies the origins of the universe. In fact, he now runs the Origins Project at Arizona State University, which is a "transdisciplinary initiative that nurtures research, energizes teaching, and builds partnerships, offering new possibilities for exploring the most fundamental of questions who we are and where we came from." In this capacity, together with his scientific writing, he seeks to spread knowledge about the origins, evolution, and history of the universe to a general public.

Krauss and Scientific Controversies:

Lawrence Krauss is not one to shy away from a controversy, and working to find the origins of the universe can certainly cause some controversies.

Religion and Science: Though he is an atheist, he often takes a devil's advocate-style position which at times places him in amiable conflict with some more prominent atheists, such as Richard Dawkins (who once said Krauss asked him an "I'm an atheist, but..." question, which are far harder to tackle than the outright pro-religion questions). It seems that Krauss's goal is to teach everyone - the faithful and the atheist - what science tells us about the universe and its history, not particularly caring about changing their underlying belief structure.

String Theory Critic: Krauss is one of the most prominent and respected critics of string theory. His 2005 book, Hiding in the Mirror details the history and allure of invoking extra dimensions as a physical explanation, and calls into question whether this is really justified.



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a very pathetic statement by those who want to divorce you from divine reality of living universe!
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a very pathetic statement by those who want to divorce you from divine reality of living universe!
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The definition of "nothing" is very important to the title. This is explained in the video.
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and they want to separate You from divine presence.......


atheistic garbage....




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The Universe did come from nothing :)

Ain

Ain Soph

Ain Soph Aur

From

Nothing

Limitless

Limitless Light

and all matter is just condensed slow energy

Where does that energy continue to come from?

Now that is a divine question.

LVX,

Frater

Hint, see this diagram:

[link to media-cache-ec6.pinterest.com]

The energy flows down the tree progressively getting more dense.

Best Wishes

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Physicists try to answer How, Where, When, What

but they can never answer "why"
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Education & Academic History:

•1977 - Undergraduate degrees in mathematics and physics at Ottawa's Carleton University, having earned first class honours.
•1982 - Physics Ph.D. from Massachusetts Institute of Technology
•1982 to 1985 - Member of the Harvard Society of Fellows
•1985 to 1993 - Assistant and then associate professorship at Yale
•1993 to 2005 - He went on to serve as the Ambrose Swasey Professor of Physics, Professor of Astronomy, and Chairman of the department of Physics at Case Western Reserve University
•2008 to present (2011, at least) - Foundation Professor in the School of Earth and Space Exploration and Physics Department, and Inaugural Director of the Origins Project at Arizona State University

Scientific Background:

Lawrence Krauss is a cosmologist, meaning that he studies the origins of the universe. In fact, he now runs the Origins Project at Arizona State University, which is a "transdisciplinary initiative that nurtures research, energizes teaching, and builds partnerships, offering new possibilities for exploring the most fundamental of questions who we are and where we came from." In this capacity, together with his scientific writing, he seeks to spread knowledge about the origins, evolution, and history of the universe to a general public.

Krauss and Scientific Controversies:

Lawrence Krauss is not one to shy away from a controversy, and working to find the origins of the universe can certainly cause some controversies.

Religion and Science: Though he is an atheist, he often takes a devil's advocate-style position which at times places him in amiable conflict with some more prominent atheists, such as Richard Dawkins (who once said Krauss asked him an "I'm an atheist, but..." question, which are far harder to tackle than the outright pro-religion questions). It seems that Krauss's goal is to teach everyone - the faithful and the atheist - what science tells us about the universe and its history, not particularly caring about changing their underlying belief structure.

String Theory Critic: Krauss is one of the most prominent and respected critics of string theory. His 2005 book, Hiding in the Mirror details the history and allure of invoking extra dimensions as a physical explanation, and calls into question whether this is really justified.


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Lawrence Krauss is a joke...just ask anyone at ASU
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Physicists try to answer How, Where, When, What

but they can never answer "why"
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Because 'WHY' is respective to the person asking.
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The Universe did come from nothing :)

Ain

Ain Soph

Ain Soph Aur

From

Nothing

Limitless

Limitless Light

and all matter is just condensed slow energy

Where does that energy continue to come from?

Now that is a divine question.

LVX,

Frater

Hint, see this diagram:

[link to media-cache-ec6.pinterest.com]

The energy flows down the tree progressively getting more dense.

Best Wishes
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This.
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The universe exists. It isn't "made of" something. It is made of nothing and it IS everything...
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Physicists try to answer How, Where, When, What

but they can never answer "why"
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This is because you cannot ask question "why" if there is no reason to begin with. The "why" is what ever meaning we give to it or to any action / creation. In the end there cannot be no ultimate "why" behind existence. Existence cannot originate from "why" but only "how" and even thats paradoxical because there is no "how" in the deepest level of existence there just "is". Everything is because that is how everything is. There cannot exist such thing as "nothing" but a concept since "nothing" defines itself as something that does not exist. It is just human made mind game because to us "nothing" means a concept of form or perception that is missing. In reality "nothing" is impossible. It is mindfuck because of our limited perception and concepts of reality.
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Looks like Stephen Grier from disclosure project.
Haven't watched the vid yet, but from what I've read and heard, the universe is mostly dark matter. Without it, the physics holding our galaxy together would not be possible.
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man these people get on my nerves. why must they insist on having to have an answer. we just dont know anything yet, how could we?
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The Universe did come from nothing :)

Ain

Ain Soph

Ain Soph Aur

From

Nothing

Limitless

Limitless Light

and all matter is just condensed slow energy

Where does that energy continue to come from?

Now that is a divine question.

LVX,

Frater

Hint, see this diagram:

[link to media-cache-ec6.pinterest.com]

The energy flows down the tree progressively getting more dense.

Best Wishes
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Daath should not be pictured.
Posts in CAPS can be ignored.
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Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759
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All christians know the universe was made from nothing
God Spoke and it ALL came into being (Period)
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WHEN YOU SEE NOTHING IT DOESN'T MEAN NOTHING EXISTS IT COULD BE THE WITNESSING OF YOUR LIMITATIONS!

MAN THINKS HE KNOWS EVERYTHING AND IF HE CAN'T SEE IT OR FEEL IT IT DOESN'T EXIST!
PUTIN

WITH THAT MENTALITY FOR A BLINDMAN WHO'S ALSO DEAF OR A MAN IN A COMA YOU DON'T EXIST!
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Those String-Theory freaks are only geometrization maniacs. They think anything is geometry because they are math-nerds.
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Nothingiseverythingeverythingisnothingthingis................​

very ancient revelation from the east.

nothing new under the sun.
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Physicists try to answer How, Where, When, What

but they can never answer "why"
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Because 'WHY' is respective to the person asking.
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No, I disagree. It is because the cause is unknowable.
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ATHEISTS ARE EVIL!

SATAN!

KILL THE ATHEISTS!

DONT LISTEN TO A WORD OR YOU WILL BECOME UNDER THEIR SATANIC SPELL!
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'Nothing' does not exist, it's a concept an invention
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ATHEISTS ARE EVIL!

SATAN!

KILL THE ATHEISTS!

DONT LISTEN TO A WORD OR YOU WILL BECOME UNDER THEIR SATANIC SPELL!
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"KILL THE ATHEISTS!"

Typical hypocrisy, what an interesting sentence.
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thats not typical and you should know it!!
Geeez
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The quantum theory...nothing exists until it is observed; Schroedingers cat.
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The faithful have a point (and I'm an atheist) that it all comes back to what created the initial energy. Though there is no mention anywhere of this in any religion. Religion, nor science has yet to give the answer as to what created the initial energy in the first place. And until then we are left with a haunting quote that I feel best describes what humans know about the universe as a whole. "The universe may not only be as queer as we suppose, but queerer than we CAN suppose". I don't think that using god as the answer is an answer at all. It's an escape from my point of view. I feel like the true answer of where our universe comes from is much scarier, and unknowable than any of us can fathom. It's entirely possible that our universe was birthed from a black hole in another universe which in return was birthed from a black hole in another universe, perhaps one that doesn't resemble our in the slightest. You have to keep an open mind about the origins of the creation of matter and energy, because as much as we understand, we have been here but a blink of an eye in the scheme of the cosmos, and we will probably hold no clearer image of them during our time in them. That's a sad thought. A discouraging one as well, but it's the truth. Science isn't thete, and may never be. But that doesn't mean that religion can explain this any better, given that no religion on earth has ever given any form of explanation as to where, how, or why the universe exists or what it is. We simply do not know. So stop arguing.
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The faithful have a point (and I'm an atheist) that it all comes back to what created the initial energy. Though there is no mention anywhere of this in any religion. Religion, nor science has yet to give the answer as to what created the initial energy in the first place. And until then we are left with a haunting quote that I feel best describes what humans know about the universe as a whole. "The universe may not only be as queer as we suppose, but queerer than we CAN suppose". I don't think that using god as the answer is an answer at all. It's an escape from my point of view. I feel like the true answer of where our universe comes from is much scarier, and unknowable than any of us can fathom. It's entirely possible that our universe was birthed from a black hole in another universe which in return was birthed from a black hole in another universe, perhaps one that doesn't resemble our in the slightest. You have to keep an open mind about the origins of the creation of matter and energy, because as much as we understand, we have been here but a blink of an eye in the scheme of the cosmos, and we will probably hold no clearer image of them during our time in them. That's a sad thought. A discouraging one as well, but it's the truth. Science isn't thete, and may never be. But that doesn't mean that religion can explain this any better, given that no religion on earth has ever given any form of explanation as to where, how, or why the universe exists or what it is. We simply do not know. So stop arguing.
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The basic units of matter were described a century ago with a siddhi power of yoga called "anima" by C.W. Leadbeater and Annie Besant, two famous Theosophists. They were proved in 1980 by a British theoretical physicist to be the constituents of quarks. These particles consist of 10 closed curves. Each curve is a helix with 1680 turns. Each turn is a helix that winds around a circle. There are seven, successively smaller, helices making up each closed curve. The turns of the seventh helix consist of seven "bubbles" spaced evenly along the circumference of a circle. They are holes in a kind of transparent medium that pervades all space. In other words, matter appeared to their vision to be composed of.... nothing.

See details at:
[link to smphillips.8m.com]
(particularly p. 11)
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a very pathetic statement by those who want to divorce you from divine reality of living universe!
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it is made of LIVING MIND. Go read Walter Russell. it is you ones who don't understand. I did not read the article but I know how it is made. It is usally ones who don't know like you perhaps who issue pathetic statements.

The living God is all the MInd of the whole living Creation. If you read walter russell you will understand.

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The actual Lord's Prayer Given by Jesus 2000 years ago.

"MY SPIRIT, YOU ARE OMNIPOTENT. YOUR NAME IS HOLY. MAY YOUR REALM BE INCARNATE IN ME. MAY YOUR POWER REVEAL ITSELF WITHIN ME, ON EARTH AND IN THE HEAVEN. GIVE ME TODAY MY DAILY BREAD, AND THUS, LET ME RECOGNIZE MY TRANSGRESSIONS AND ERRORS, AND I SHALL RECOGNIZE THE TRUTH. AND DO NOT LEAD ME INTO TEMPTATION AND CONFUSION, BUT DELIVER ME FROM ERROR. FOR YOURS IS THE REALM WITHIN ME AND THE POWER AND THE KNOWLEDGE FOREVER,
AMEN.

Nice video: [link to www.youtube.com] Make this World a Better One

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If the universe was made of nothing then it would be impossible for a blackhole to form in space itself. This would also mean that you can not fold space if space had no structure at all because there would be nothing to fold.
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If the universe was made of nothing then it would be impossible for a blackhole to form in space itself. This would also mean that you can not fold space if space had no structure at all because there would be nothing to fold.
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"Nothing" is far more complex than you're assuming. Lawrence Krauss clearly states in this video that space IS curved. The word "nothing" is being misinterpreted by many in the thread.
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Krauss, nor does any theoretical physicist, know, as he does not have a complete theory to provide him that knowledge.

no religion on earth has ever given any form of explanation as to where, how, or why the universe exists or what it is. We simply do not know.
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Interesting point. On that matter, I saw this posted on facebook and, although it is not religion, it is a complete theory.

It purports to explain why things are the way they are and why the universe exists and what it is:

[link to www.scribd.com]

If this is really complete theory, then it might be good to consider what Hawking said about that:

"...if we discover a complete theory, it should in time be understandable by everyone, not just by a few scientists. Then we shall all, philosophers, scientists and just ordinary people, be able to take part in the discussion of the question of why it is that we and the universe exist. If we find the answer to that, it would be the ultimate triumph of human reason..."
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Hmm... seems universe mimics what is between his ears. Reality check for the dude... hit your thumb with hammer, hard. Then... let me know if that was nothing. Sheesh

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